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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:25pm On May 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Dual feed on same 20 mm gun is still 20 mm calibre Rooivalk does NOT carry gun pods, option NOT built. 30 global wars for the Hind.....most battle tested in the world....Apache, Tiger, Rooivalk, A129, and more DO NOT EVEN COME CLOSE ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:40pm On May 02, 2015 |
agaugust:Oh...OK so the Rooivalk : Has a Much Much Higher Hover , 3X higher in fact. 250km higher range(Internal fuel),and 300km higher range with Aux fuel tanks. Has stealth design. Much higher service ceiling, higher by 2,5km in fact. Much lower vibration levels. Much better EW suit. Much better targeting systems. But ja.......The MI 24/35 is better!! 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:41pm On May 02, 2015 |
jln115: You cannot possible compare a 20mm gun to a dual barrel 30mm. It just isn't possible. The MI-35 is the world's most heavily armed attack Helicopter. It can carry, 2 barrel 30mm, nose mounted quad barrel 12.7mm, 96 S-8 rockets/ rockets and anti-tank missiles, and 2 or more pintle mounted HMG's. Nothing comes close, it is a terrifying war machine. A T-14 armata with that can fly! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:42pm On May 02, 2015 |
agaugust:The SuperHind carries a Denel 20mm cannon, and you cant say sh1t because you love the SuperHind as you confessed on Beegeagle. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:45pm On May 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The Hind is much more than a dedicated attack Helicopter, it is a flying tank. 2,500 Hinds and more delivered is no fiction. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:47pm On May 02, 2015 |
jln115: Why would anyone want the Super-Hind, when the Nigerian Airforce operates the MI-35m Hind E? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:54pm On May 02, 2015 |
agaugust: http://www.guncopter.com/super-hind/ Super Hind Mk 3 - adds the core avionics systems together with a dual-feed, turreted, 20mm cannon 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:08pm On May 02, 2015 |
agaugust: so then why does SA get 1600ms+ from a 76mm? in fact the 30mm 2A42 can all so get velocity over 1000ms o look it Russian and in use on there proper attack chopper the mi28 The Mi-28N is to replace the Mi-24 Hind in the Russian Armed Forces by 2015.[20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-28 so the next Russian attack chopper uses a single barrel duel feed auto cannon. What other attack choppers do that I wonder? The top armour most AFV will either stop a 30mm round all fall victim to the high velocity 20mm round. with a 20mm you can carry more ammo 250 for the mi28 vs 700 for the rooivalk. congrats the hind can mount a bunch of fixed forward facing guns and do straight line gun runs. why would we want to do that, we got rocks for that. Any case the apache has 1200 rounds of 30mm ammo. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:11pm On May 02, 2015 |
agaugust:Dual feed and high velocity. Nigerian hinds don't carry pods so The Apache E is the currently the best attack helicopter cause its avionics and sensors. What makes it better? It is as effect as those choopers. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:15pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120: you do know what that means right? the 35 means it is the export model fitted out for day night operations. the best Russian verstion of the mi24 is the mi24pn you don't have those. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:15pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120:That's why dedicated attacks helicopters are better than it. There's a reason it is being replaced or supplemented by real attack helicopters everywhere from Algeria, Russia to India. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:15pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120:"You cannot possible compare a 20mm gun to a dual barrel 30mm. It just isn't possible." You do know the 30mm cannon has no azimuth and elevation? Thus it just isn't possible to compare it to the Denel 20mm cannon that has a 220 in azimuth and 70 in elevation |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:17pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Because its much better, that's why. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:21pm On May 02, 2015 |
agaugust:A reporter is not a pilot nor a soldier. Range of canon: 5km+ Rockets: 6km. Anti-tank missile: 10km. Air to air missile: 6kmm |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:24pm On May 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:Hopefully if all goes according to plan, the Rooivalk MK2 might knock the Apache of the top!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:24pm On May 02, 2015 |
andrewza: The pn has similar up-grades as the MI-35m. The MI-35m is the latest variant of the MI-35 in the market. It is also russia's primary attack Helicopter. The best Russian version is the MI-35m. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:25pm On May 02, 2015 |
this is like when Agaugust mocked the rooivalk for having a fixed landing gear while not knowing Russia was busy modifying there hinds to have a fixed landing gear. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:28pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120: the 35 means export model Russia best hind is the mi24pn and there best attack chopper is the mi28. You using something the owner is trying to phase out of serves. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:30pm On May 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: All countries you listed fly both the MI-35m and the MI-28n. The MI-35m isn't been replaced, customer preference determines what other type their respective forces require. Is the AH-1z viper replacing the Apache in U.S military service? The Pakistanis ordered both MI-35 and AH-1 viper, so which is replacing which in pakistani service? The Helicopters are designed to complement each other m0ron. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:30pm On May 02, 2015 |
jln115:In terms of flying performance it is better. A FCS radar, avionics, sensors, data link and other upgrades would make it better! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:32pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Russia stated it wanted to replace them. I posted the quote and link a few mints ago. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:34pm On May 02, 2015 |
Russia's Defense Ministry has said it is planning to procure between 45 and 67 Mi-28Ns, and to fully replace the Mi-24 Hind helicopters with Mi-28Ns in the Armed Forces by 2015. Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20130810/182683983.html#ixzz3Z1VD78TO 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:34pm On May 02, 2015 |
jln115: It does you m0ron!!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:36pm On May 02, 2015 |
andrewza: Russia isn't replacing the MI-35 in service. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:37pm On May 02, 2015 |
andrewza: This is may of 2015. How far have they gone? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:38pm On May 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:Jap I was definitely referring to the software. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:38pm On May 02, 2015 |
jln115: Delusional lot. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:38pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120:That a 23mm twin cannon m0r0n. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:39pm On May 02, 2015 |
Henry120:"Customer preference" not operational requirements I see. The Zulu Cobra is used by the Marine corps, the USA premier attack helicopter is the Apache. Who cares what the Pakistani masters of losing wars also known as "India little bit..ch" buy? India is buying the Apache E. Nigeria has nothing to complement its hinds like others do? since that's what you're saying. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:39pm On May 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The reporter gave figures the Rooivalk pilot told him. That was how he came by the 2km range. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:40pm On May 02, 2015 |
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