how much revenue does government get from cattle herding?
everyday it is trouble between farmer and herder!
we have to deploy troops and police because of farm destruction and cattle rustling!
what is the profit for government!
is this not a drainpipe to commit so much resources to unprofitable venture?
will nigeria not be better if we ban cattle herders?
think of all the savings from JTF, hospital bills, refugees, NEMA expenses, etc!

ban cattle herders and safe money!

It might not be much but it takes so many ppl out of the state that u have been in for so long without realizing, joblessness.

tit:
how much revenue does government get from cattle herding?
everyday it is trouble between farmer and herder!
we have to deploy troops and police because of farm destruction and cattle rustling!
what is the profit for government!
is this not a drainpipe to commit so much resources to unprofitable venture?
will nigeria not be better if we ban cattle herders?
think of all the savings from JTF, hospital bills, refugees, NEMA expenses, etc!

ban cattle herders and safe money!

This is a very ignorant post.

You people better thank God that you are eating organic meat from cows which have had very good exercise, rather than those genetically engineered fatty cows which would give y'all cancer in the end.

jascon1:
It might not be much but it takes so many ppl out of the state that u have been in for so long without realizing, joblessness.

please use empirical data to prove your points.
do not use emotion!
how much does cattle herding bring to the coffers of government!
we know govt has to spend trillions of naira on security, welfacre and healthcare because of nomadic cattle heding!
we even spent billions on nomadic education!
what has nigeria gained from cattle herding?
is the gain a thousandth of the cost?

nduchucks:


This is a very ignorant post.

You people better thank God that you are eating organic meat from cows which have had very good exercise, rather than those genetically engineered fatty cows which would give y'all cancer in the end.

refer to my post above.
please do not use emotion.
use data and intelligence to prove your point.
even the munchi do not reason like this again.

Musings of a palpitating TANoid at the throes of death.

tit:
how much revenue does government get from cattle herding?
everyday it is trouble between farmer and herder!
we have to deploy troops and police because of farm destruction and cattle rustling!
what is the profit for government!
is this not a drainpipe to commit so much resources to unprofitable venture?
will nigeria not be better if we ban cattle herders?
think of all the savings from JTF, hospital bills, refugees, NEMA expenses, etc!

ban cattle herders and safe money!

Its a shame that some people still practice nomadic lifestyle

omenka:
Musings of a palpitating TANoid at the throes of death.

you people can never respond with logic.
reality is soon going to hit you between the eyes.
how much did you say is the cost of groundnut oil?
how many barrels can you produce in a day?

BlackTechnology:



Its a shame that some people still practice nomadic lifestyle

your type is rare in Nigeria.
You are a great Nigerian patriot!

nduchucks:


This is a very ignorant post.

You people better thank God that you are eating organic meat from cows which have had very good exercise, rather than those genetically engineered fatty cows which would give y'all cancer in the end.

The question is, how much does the industry contribute to govt revenue? My grandma pays something to govt for her little kiosk in the village market.

tit:


you people can never respond with logic.
reality is soon going to hit you between the eyes.
how much did you say is the cost of groundnut oil?
how many barrels can you produce in a day?

More musings from a palpitating TANoid facing imminent death.

@ bold: How ironic! Rotflmao.

Tit? I'm not surprised. His brain was hacked long time ago.

Buhari is d rite person to answer dat question
I only no dat of lizard

tit:


please use empirical data to prove your points.
do not use emotion!
how much does cattle herding bring to the coffers of government!
we know govt has to spend trillions of naira on security, welfacre and healthcare because of nomadic cattle heding!
we even spent billions on nomadic education!
what has nigeria gained from cattle herding?
is the gain a thousandth of the cost?

the question the OP asked was ended with a conclusive statement to ban herdsmen which is somehow black magical. Billions of naira are pumped into academic sponsorships, into infrastructural developments for urban dwellers, into pensions n social benefits, into compensation of minor incidents that could have been prevented. The little these nomads benefit from the land of their ancestors u want to deny them if it. They get no loans, no dwellings, no communities allocated n well maintained by the govt. The few they get for compensation for the benefits they lack as humans, u with all to make it successfully in the world of the elites chose to propose denial of the mediocre benefits that help support nomads. U r devilish to the bone. Without those men u would hardly get meat at ur table. Count that as a revenue. Those nomads are the reasons u can feed to a bellyful of satisfaction. Have u ever been to a tax office? Have u ever paid ur tax all ur life?

Sunnybobo3:


The question is, how much does the industry contribute to govt revenue? My grandma pays something to govt for her little kiosk in the village market.

Item.............................................Amount (N)
Cost of buying cattle....................... 36,000
Cost of Transportation......................600 – 1000/ 500 (by trek)
Government Tax............................250.00
Cost of loading & Offloading...............300.00
Commission.....................................200 - 1000

For the information of the ignorant among us, the above is the average cost of marketing Per Head of cattle. Note that the government gets N250 per head. Now multiply that by the millions and millions of cattle killed and eaten by you people and you'll have an idea. Ignorance no good at all. Mind you, I'm only talkning about what government gets from domestic sales alone.

Sunnybobo3:


The question is, how much does the industry contribute to govt revenue? My grandma pays something to govt for her little kiosk in the village market.

So you aren't aware that nomadic farming is grouped under livestock farming in Nigeria and contributes to government revenue in several ways? Agriculture contributes 23% to Nigeria's GDP and a break-down of key contributories showed that Nomadic farming is responsible for 6% of the GDP. Why are economists advising Nigeria to work on Agriculture if it is not important?

nduchucks:


Item.............................................Amount (N)
Cost of buying cattle....................... 36,000
Cost of Transportation......................600 – 1000/ 500 (by trek)
Government Tax....250.00
Cost of loading & Offloading...............300.00
Commission.....................................200 - 1000

For the information of the ignorant among us, the above is the average cost of marketing Per Head of cattle. Note that the government gets N250 per head. Now multiply that by the millions and millions of cattle killed and eaten by you people and you'll have an idea. Ignorance no good at all. Mind you, I'm only talkning about what government gets from domestic sales alone.

The tax stated above is borne by the buyer and not the rearer. How much do cattle herders pay as tax to the govt.?

AhmedMustapha:


So you aren't aware that nomadic farming is grouped under livestock farming in Nigeria and contributes to government revenue in several ways? Agriculture contributes 23% to Nigeria's GDP and a break-down of key contributories showed that Nomadic farming is responsible for 6% of the GDP. Why are economists advising Nigeria to work on Agriculture if it is not important?

GDP is different from accruals to govt coffer. How much tax do cattle herders pay to govt?

Sunnybobo3:


The tax stated above is borne by the buyer and not the rearer. How much do cattle herders pay as tax to the govt.?

The tax commonly known as “Jangali” is also paid by cattle rearers.

I however do not believe that you are here to learn or educate people. I suspect that you are simply here to disparage hard working Nigerians who rear cattle. For that, a big shame on you!

jascon1:
the question the OP asked was ended with a conclusive statement to ban herdsmen which is somehow black magical. Billions of naira are pumped into academic sponsorships, into infrastructural developments for urban dwellers, into pensions n social benefits, into compensation of minor incidents that could have been prevented. The little these nomads benefit from the land of their ancestors u want to deny them if it. They get no loans, no dwellings, no communities allocated n well maintained by the govt. The few they get for compensation for the benefits they lack as humans, u with all to make it successfully in the world of the elites chose to propose denial of the mediocre benefits that help support nomads. U r devilish to the bone. Without those men u would hardly get meat at ur table. Count that as a revenue. Those nomads are the reasons u can feed to a bellyful of satisfaction. Have u ever been to a tax office? Have u ever paid ur tax all ur life?

Hmmmm! So Chicken, Fish, Goat, Pork meat don finish for market or pesin no fit bellyful except say na beef? Fear God oh

Sunnybobo3:


GDP is different from accruals to govt coffer. How much tax do cattle herders pay to govt?

You need to understand that there are several tax evaders in the country and taxes contribute only 7% to Nigeria's GDP that's why government has to work hard to bring as many Nigerians as possible into the tax net. Away from that, these nomadic farmers provide raw materials to industries that are in turn taxed so you can't belittle their contribution to the Nation's revenue

tit:
how much revenue does government get from cattle herding?
everyday it is trouble between farmer and herder!
we have to deploy troops and police because of farm destruction and cattle rustling!
what is the profit for government!
is this not a drainpipe to commit so much resources to unprofitable venture?
will nigeria not be better if we ban cattle herders?
think of all the savings from JTF, hospital bills, refugees, NEMA expenses, etc!

ban cattle herders and safe money!

@ tit

How many litres of milk can you produce from those withered bosoms of yours.? Do the maths!!!. We may start from you... send you to the knackers (butcher's) if the sums do not add up.. This will put you out of your misery.

Nduchuks.... Please do me the honours...nagode

AhmedMustapha:

You need to understand that there are several tax evaders in the country and taxes contribute only 7% to Nigeria's GDP that's why government has to work hard to bring as many Nigerians as possible into the tax net. Away from that, these nomadic farmers provide raw materials to industries that are in turn taxed so you can't belittle their contribution to the Nation's revenue

Can you explain to me why someone in Port Harcourt with oil in his backyard buy Fuel at the same price with someone in Birnin Kebbi while the person in Birnin Kebbi buys beef at a fraction of the cost of what the person in PH buys his?

Is that not injustice?

Sunnybobo3:


Can you explain to me why someone in Port Harcourt with oil in his backyard buy Fuel at the same price with someone in Birnin Kebbi while the person in Birnin Kebbi buys beef at a fraction of the cost of what the person in PH buys his?

Is that not injustice?

So this discussion was all about who owns OIL?
As it stands the oil is Nigeria's property, it is only located in the Niger Delta and I feel the people of that region have been given so much attention by the government but if the people want control of their resources, there are ways that can be achieved

UnknownT:
Hmmmm! So Chicken, Fish, Goat, Pork meat don finish for market or pesin no fit bellyful except say na beef? Fear God oh

nice one! Well, u must understand that poultry farmers also fall under the same category. Fishermen as well etc as they are all classified as farmers. As far as i know, there is no reliable empirical data as the previous quoter stated. Farmers in the country have no defined association as these are subsistent farmers who resort to farming as a way out. The government only supports the groups of farmers which do not comprise of the subsistent farmers being referred here. These guys go a long way to bring food to our table. U can't afford chicken if chicken were ur stable delicacy. Beef is the most consumed n sourced meat in the country. It is also the most affordable in all. I am saying that any step to make the lives of the herdsmen any miserable will result to starvation n unemployment. They deserve the support from the government that u and I also deserve

I regretfully disagree with you on this! The beef value chain is a multi-billion naira investment! It is expected to get to over one trillion by 2020! The herding of cows constitute part of the primary base of the value chain!

tit:


please use empirical data to prove your points.
do not use emotion!
how much does cattle herding bring to the coffers of government!
we know govt has to spend trillions of naira on security, welfacre and healthcare because of nomadic cattle heding!
we even spent billions on nomadic education!
what has nigeria gained from cattle herding?
is the gain a thousandth of the cost?

Actually, hydroponics is the future for Nigeria, via the seed sprouter system! Herding is antiquated!

BlackTechnology:



Its a shame that some people still practice nomadic lifestyle

AhmedMustapha:

So this discussion was all about who owns OIL?
As it stands the oil is Nigeria's property, it is only located in the Niger Delta and I feel the people of that region have been given so much attention by the government but if the people want control of their resources, there are ways that can be achieved

Do the agricultural resources not belong to the country as well?

I'm just learning o.

jascon1:
nice one! Well, u must understand that poultry farmers also fall under the same category. Fishermen as well etc as they are all classified as farmers. As far as i know, there is no reliable empirical data as the previous quoter stated. Farmers in the country have no defined association as these are subsistent farmers who resort to farming as a way out. The government only supports the groups of farmers which do not comprise of the subsistent farmers being referred here. These guys go a long way to bring food to our table. U can't afford chicken if chicken were ur stable delicacy. Beef is the most consumed n sourced meat in the country. It is also the most affordable in all. I am saying that any step to make the lives of the herdsmen any miserable will result to starvation n unemployment. They deserve the support from the government that u and I also deserve

So the support from government is for them to be allowed to be maiming and causing havocs anywhere they 'herd' their cattle to? They graze on people's farmlands( these farmers are mostly subsistence farmers), destroy their crops and most times kill the farmers if they resist and you say they should be allowed to continue to avoid starvation and unemployment. So all the farmers that their crops are destroyed are the ones that are entitled to starve?

I agree with you! People underestimate the power of the industry, but it's a goldmine! Having said this, nomadic practices should be jettisoned in favour of modern ways, like the seed sprouter system via hydroponics!

AhmedMustapha:


So you aren't aware that nomadic farming is grouped under livestock farming in Nigeria and contributes to government revenue in several ways? Agriculture contributes 23% to Nigeria's GDP and a break-down of key contributories showed that Nomadic farming is responsible for 6% of the GDP. Why are economists advising Nigeria to work on Agriculture if it is not important?

UnknownT:
So the support from government is for them to be allowed to be maiming and causing havocs anywhere they 'herd' their cattle to? They graze on people's farmlands( these farmers are mostly subsistence farmers), destroy their crops and most times kill the farmers if they resist and you say they should be allowed to continue to avoid starvation and unemployment. So all the farmers that their crops are destroyed are the ones that are entitled to starve?

thank u. then, this is where the government comes in. That's y I said there's no grazeland allocated to these guys. Blame the govt for ghost dispensation of resources and interest in the common man.

Am not against these people and their cattle, my problem is that they should stop destroying farmlands and killing farmers. The farmers and farmlands they are destroying/killing contribute majorly to our stomach infrastructure compared to any other sector..

Nomads, respect our farmers...