agaugust:


New project...38 m boats. Project expansion before sales you fool

Ok, so you admit you have exported nothing?

Because that is what we said.

Then you posted your source to try say you had military exports

Now you admit you dont?

You cant even maintain a simple argument.. fool

agaugust:


Google 3 km helicopter altitude above sea level....fool

Citation please

agaugust:


Google sales orders for Mi-35P and Mi-35M....compare the numbers with 12 Rooivalks. Odenson

Citation please

patches689:


Quote him again and I will expose you again.

He said that it is not a good export product as other militaries dont have the capabilities to operate it.

Why should I repeat same story everybody has read here and become tired of it, you think I am a jobless man employed on Nairaland?

agaugust:


Well it has NOT happened as we speak....mud all over your face...ugly

No A-darter in service/inducted, 5 Badgers in 15 years.

the reast of your argument is excuses and stories...tales by moonlight bra
.

A-darter enters service this year.

236 Badgers ordered and under production

You said both would not happen. They have.

Egg on your face.

agaugust:


Show citation where Brazil offered to buy Rooivalk in the first instance
.

Why would they?

They cant afford it.

If they werent buying new Gripen and a Carrier they could, but they are, and operate under a limited budget, so they cant

patches689:


But you said sales represent quality?

Now you say that sales dont represent quality?

Make up your mind.

Only a fool compares a 2nd generation tank with a 3rd generation
.

agaugust:


Why should I repeat same story everybody has read here and become tired of it, you think I am a jobless man employed on Nairaland?

Because yet again you are mis-quoting him and telling lies.

Put your money where your mouth is, quote him and I shall educate you.

patches689:


Why would they?

They cant afford it.

Okay, you admit Brazil NEVER showed interest in the obsolete Rooivalk....cool bro

agaugust:


Only a fool compares a 2nd generation tank with a 3rd generation
.

You said sales represent quality

Now you say that sales dont represent quality?

Which is it?

patches689:


Because yet again you are mis-quoting him and telling lies.

Put your money where your mouth is, quote him and I shall educate you.

The whole of SAAF proves me right
.

patches689:


Because yet again you are mis-quoting him and telling lies.

Put your money where your mouth is, quote him and I shall educate you.

Those are duds you r3tard. You have no mokopa's in service.

agaugust:


Okay, you admit Brazil NEVER showed interest in the obsolete Rooivalk....cool bro

Why would they if the Rooivalk doesn't meet budgetary constraints?

They didnt look at the Rooivalk just like they didnt look at the Apache, Z-10, Ka-50, Mi-28 or Tiger.

What exactly do you think you are proving here?

agaugust:


The whole of SAAF proves me right
.

Are you saying that source is an official SAAF website?

Yes or no

Henry120:


Those are duds you r3tard. You have no mokopa's in service.

Says who?

What is in this picture then? A rocket-propelled cassava plant?

patches689:


Says who?

What is in this picture then? A flying cassava plant?

You do not have them in service. The SAAF has no money to order them.

A photo testing the mokopa, doesn't mean it's in service.

The Russians also have videos of the SU-47, does this mean the 47 is in Russian airforce service?

Henry120:


You do not have them in service. The SAAF has no money to order them.

A photo testing the mokopa, doesn't mean it's in service.

The Russians also have videos of the SU-47, does this mean the 47 is in Russian airforce service?

Who says that the SAAF doesnt have money to order them?

SAAF is showing them off, thus they have them.

patches689:


Who says that the SAAF doesnt have money to order them?

SAAF is showing them off, thus they have them.

That's a mock up.

SAAF is also showing the A-darter, does it mean it's in service?

Same as the Al-tariq.

Henry120:


That's a mock up.

SAAF is also showing the A-darter, does it mean it's in service?

Same as the Al-tariq.

Who says it is a mock-up?

stillchris:
This is not a d1ck measuring contest, but i'm very proud of our military right now. even though the international community and media refuse to acknowledge it (since good news coming out of Africa is not good for business), i will not be decieved.
The Nigerian military has set a record by rescuing 600 captives with just one casualty from a terrorist stronghold known for it's extremely difficult terrain. sambisa is almost free.
This in less than a week.
Abeg, 1 million gbosa to our boys in uniform.
saffers. feel free to hate/envy

gbosa!,gbosa!!,gbosa!!!,gbosa!!!!...
Indeed!,now if only we could seek more cordial strategic military partnership with the west,then surely power will steadily slitter into our palm.
We really need to begin an aggressive development of our defence industry and complex,and with substantial assistance from helpful western partners,we will have a super powerful defence structure in a few years.

agaugust:


Your source did NOT say 14 pilots, said 18 crew of both pilots and navigators.

"According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821

You are yet to show ONE SINGLE SOURCE that NAF has shortage of F-7 jet pilots...you are afraid of your own false claims?

Cowaaaaard Show me source of NAF's 3 F-7 jet pilots, I have asked you 10 times in 10 hours...you keep trembling like jelly fish
.

Uhm....Its simple math Augustine, 26 plane - 12 in rotation= 14 fully operational at any given time, Navigators are not pilots, thus we have 14 pilots to fly 14 fully operational Gripens at any given time.18-14=4 Navigators.

Now firstly show me a source that we have only 9 Gripen pilots, and secondly show me a source that NAF has more than 3 F-7 pilots

agaugust:


Quote where your source said 14 pilots.

"According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821
.

As I said before, common sense should tell you that to fly 14 fully operational Gripens at any given time ,you need 14 pilots.

Although if I have to be honest most Nigerians lack this basic human quality.

Henry120:


Those are duds you r3tard. You have no mokopa's in service.

Duds...dud missile...rubber/plastic sample for static display at public show....ah ! Oga you wicked

jln115:

As I said before, common sense should tell you that to fly 14 fully operational Gripens at any given time ,you need 14 pilots.

Although if I have to be honest most Nigerians lack this basic human quality.

So your citation and source is COMMON SENSE....the same common sense that you have never displayed in your m0ronic argument patterns
.

jln115:

As I said before, common sense should tell you that to fly 14 fully operational Gripens at any given time ,you need 14 pilots.

You said Nigeria has 3 pilots for 11 F-7 jets....is that the common sense you we are talking about?

How many pilots is needed to fly 11 F-7 jets based on your common sense ? Answer....

jln115:


Show me a source that NAF has more than 3 F-7 pilots

Use your Common sense .... 11 F-7 jets, needs how many pilots ?
.

patches689:


Are you saying that source is an official SAAF website?

Yes or no

Should we say that website posts false information?

Yes or no?

patches689:


Why would they if the Rooivalk doesn't meet budgetary constraints?

They didnt look at the Rooivalk just like they didnt look at the Apache, Z-10, Ka-50, Mi-28 or Tiger.

What exactly do you think you are proving here?

Dozens of countries have looked at and purchased those other helicopters. Nobody buys the Rooivalk except SAAF.

They looked at the Hind because Brazil is not a blind fool that will look in the wrong direction.

patches689:


Why would they?

Brazil cant afford it.

Brazil has 10 times bigger foreign dollar cash reserve than South Africa....Brazil is 10 times richer than your overhyped ANC cage.

By inference, Brazil can afford 100 Rooivalk helicopters.....but they refused to look at the obsolete Denel turkey
.

Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Adesola Amosu:
How We Monitored Sambisa Military Operations from Abuja
03 May 2015

Says ‘Interesting to watch terrorists in disarray
Pakistani, Ukrainian weapons as game changer
Holds out hope for rescue of missing air force pilots
Senator Iroegbu in Abuja
[b]
The Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Adesola Amosu has disclosed how improved technological know-how and acquisition of the required weapons, arms and ammunition helped the Armed Forces to monitor the successful prosecution of the Sambisa forest operations right at the situation room in the military headquarters, Abuja.

This is coming as the footage of the operational videos revealed how Nigerian troops are battling and dislodging terrorists inside the notorious Sambisa Forest have shown the dexterity of Nigerian Air Force (NAF) pilots as masters of their trade.

Amosu disclosed this on Sunday in Abuja while speaking to journalists after the interdenominational church service in celebration of the NAF 51st anniversary (NAF Day 2015).

He said that the footage of the Sambisa operation, which they monitored at the NAF Headquarters Abuja, depicted the terrorists that were in disarray.

According to him, the level of technology deployed in the operations by the Air Force and sister services proved a pivotal role at not only dislodging the terrorists but in recovering the women, girls and children that were under Boko Haram captivity.

He said: “What we put in the forefront when we came in is to increase and improve the operational capability of the force, and we have been able to do that substantially. Right now, we don’t need to talk too much, the testimony is out there in the field.

“We are thinking of getting technology that will give us the possibility from the rear, and we already have some aspects of it; some percentage of being able to see the battle from the rear and then you control the battle space from the rear.

“This is essentially what we have done, and I told you about the footages; you will be shocked that we were right here in Abuja watching and monitoring what was going on out there (Sambisa). All we needed to do is to improve on this, get more technology so we can reduce the platforms and then Nigeria air force will be in tandem with most of the super powers in the world”, he noted.
[/b]
Amosus assured that the “NAF at 51 can conduct surveillance, gather intelligence necessary for the ground forces to take on the battle. We are able to conduct search and rescue, and we are able to conduct medical evacuation.

“I wish you have access to the latest footage we have where we have terrorists running. It is very amazing how we have turned the tide around and we are very proud of our officers and men of the armed forces that today we are standing strong and it can only get better”.

One of the most outstanding outcomes of the operation, the Air Force noted, is the crucial support in supply of the required types of weapons by countries other than traditional Western allies, especially Pakistan and Ukraine, amongst others.

“I will rest it on the expendable, as we were able to get some huge support from Pakistan. I don’t want to dwell too much on that, but what you are seeing today, one of the major factors to the change in the battle arrangement is those equipment – expendables that we got from Pakistan.

“Again we got some training, it’s not only Pakistan but from Ukraine. We got huge support from most of the nations that elected to support Nigeria in our time of challenges, and we must remember to acknowledge this support”, he said.

Speaking further, CAS expressed hope of recapturing or knowing the whereabouts of the two missing Pilots, Group Captain Braimah and Wing Commander Edima, with the liberation of Sambisa forest and other areas.

He said: “There is hope. For me that was our own 9/11. The crash took place on the 11th of September. In addition to looking for the Chibok girls, we are looking for two of our pilots missing in action who are some of our best.

“We are still looking for them hopefully as we dismantle the cells within Sambisa forest we should hopefully make contact with those excellent gentlemen”.

The good news about the Air-force, Amosu insisted, is about continuity because most of the members of the cell right now, one of them will emerge as the chief of air staff. So the dream is collective.

“So when you are fighting war you have to go for collective contribution and this is what we have done essentially, so we carry everybody along in terms of thoughts, tactics, how to fight the war. I am therefore happy today even when we step out there will be continuity”, he stated .

Meanwhile, some exclusive videos of the operation obtained by PRNigeria, pilots are seen taunting the terrorists with hundreds of the latter running helter skelter and fleeing into different directions.

The videos, according to the news outlet, showed the dislodged and disorganised terrorists in flight in different directions and running helter-skelter in the expansive forest.

In another footage, the report said, the video depicted how vulnerable women and children were cautiously and deliberately guided to safety by the Nigerian pilots.

“Since the essence of the operation is not to kill everybody in sight, the Air Force pilots deploy their skills in herding both terrorists and their captives in different directions so that those conscripted and abducted were guided to safety zone while the armed terrorists met their waterloo”, a military source said.

Nigeria is forever thankful to both the Pakistanis and Ukrainians who despite their own challenges have always stood by the side of Nigeria.


The Russians and Czechs who also supplied the Airforce with Helicopters, Tanks and IFVs.


The Chinese, and Israelis also supported Nigeria in no small part. Our friends from belarus offered another substantial amount of support.

The U.S on the other hand wasn't letting up on sabotaging our efforts against these insurgents. They bullied the South-Africans, Saudi-Arabians, and and hoodwinked the Israelis. Then they carried off to Romania, made doomsday prediction, cut oil imports from Nigeria by almost 80%, used the ebola saga as a tool, launched a vicious and relentless media onslaught, black-mail against Nigeria, the worst ever seen, since Iran.

Sabotaged the Nigerian President, but at the end, all their efforts have failed.

We would always overcome.......... do you know why? ........ It is because we are built tough, inherently with an instinct to succed, not just survive, but overwhelmingly succeed!!!




Patches689 read that report, commanders are able to see events in the battle space and make tactical decisions in real-time right from Abuja.


That's how a Data link works.

agaugust:


Should we say that website posts false information?

Yes or no?

Is that the question I asked?

Is it the official SAAF website?

Yes or no?

agaugust:


Dozens of countries have looked at and purchased those other helicopters. Nobody buys the Rooivalk except SAAF.

They looked at the Hind because Brazil is not a blind fool that will look in the wrong direction.



Brazil has 10 times bigger foreign dollar cash reserve than South Africa....Brazil is 10 times richer than your overhyped ANC cage.

By inference, Brazil can afford 100 Rooivalk helicopters.....but they refused to look at the obsolete Denel turkey
.

Augustus.

Brazil has this thing called a budget

A budget is finite

They allocated a certain ammount of money towards getting attack helicopters that ammount of money was not enough to consider the Tiger, Rooivalk, Z-10 or Apache.

These 3 helos are in the same price range (Z-10 costs the most). A price range that Brazil could not meet to complete an order of the size they needed

Simple fact

Henry120:
Nigeria is forever thankful to both the Pakistanis and Ukrainians who despite their own challenges have always stood by the side of Nigeria.


The Russians and Czechs who also supplied the Airforce with Helicopters, Tanks and IFVs.


The Chinese, and Israelis also supported Nigeria in no small part. Our friends from belarus offered another substantial amount of support.

The U.S on the other hand wasn't letting up on sabotaging our efforts against these insurgents. They bullied the South-Africans, Saudi-Arabians, and and hoodwinked the Israelis. Then they carried off to Romania, made doomsday prediction, cut oil imports from Nigeria by almost 80%, used the ebola saga as a tool, launched a vicious and relentless media onslaught, black-mail against Nigeria, the worst ever seen, since Iran.

Sabotaged the Nigerian President, but at the end, all their efforts have failed.

We would always overcome.......... do you know why? ........ It is because we are built tough, inherently with an instinct to succed, not just survive, but overwhelmingly succeed!!!




Patches689 read that report, commanders are able to see events in the battle space and make tactical decisions in real-time right from Abuja.


That's how a Data link works.

Congradulations on the vertical implimentation of your data-link. We did that in the 1980's.

You have zero horizontal intergation, which is what we have and which is the standard for advanced modern militarys.

And whi says your video is sent via data-link?