babyosisi:


You will?
You should be able to pull this out immediately especially since it is a new concept
I hope you can get it in 10 minutes

sukkot:
exactly bro , but to let these biafrans ( igbo ) tell it, the whole haiti is igbo . lmao. these biafrans like making erroneous claims to the unenlightened but when i am around i have to correct all these erroneous lies

sukkot:
and i repeat, the only reason the virginia slave owners wanted igbo slaves ( during trades they specified that they wanted only igbo slaves and is the reason why like 80 percent of the slaves in virginia were igbo ) is because, as the virginia historians put it, and i quote verbatim ' THEY WERE EASILY DEFEATED AND BROKEN '. its well documented virginia history

PPAngel:


And you are probably reading with your anus

Did you not see southern Nigeria?

Pestilence slave

OneNaira6:


And I'm telling you provide those "well documented Virginia history". How hard is that? Mind you I went to school in Virginia. I took most of my AA history courses in VA so I'm waiting on YOU to provide those well documented Virginian history. Simple as ABC

AkanIgbo:


Don't forget Haiti shares Hispaniola with the Dominican Republic, so some Haitians could very well be Yoruba, because the Dominicans likely were. The Haitians were also likely Akan people from the Ivory Coast and Ghana as well.

AkanIgbo:


I am mostly Igbo and Akan DNA. In countries where the slaves were taken the Europeans forced them to intermarry, most black people in the West are mixed ethnically. It is not just Igbo, but most English speaking black people are descended from Akan and Igbo folks.

PPAngel:

Google Jamaican slang ebo and see for yourself
Besides igbos have more fair skinned people than any group in southern Nigeria fact

sukkot:
i have not read it in a year or two. i have to search for it. but rest assured before the topic leaves frontpage i would have found it. see, i am what is called, A HISTORIAN by hobby. my specialty is the trans-atlantic slave trade and the plight of negros in the americas

sukkot:
i went to school in chicago and london so whats your point ? relax. i gotta hunt for the document. like i said i had it in my archives when i was gung ho about the slavery history of america but i am over that phase and i decluttered my archives and deleted it. but i will dig in google. i am sure i will find it

sukkot:
i have not read it in a year or two. i have to search for it. but rest assured before the topic leaves frontpage i would have found it. see, i am what is called, A HISTORIAN by hobby. my specialty is the trans-atlantic slave trade and the plight of negros in the americas

AkanIgbo:


It is my hobby too. I can save you a lot of time and tell you right now that the Akan people were by far the most rebellious slaves. The second most rebellious group were the Igbos. Those two groups overthrew the slavers in in Haiti and Jamaica. The slavers in South Carolina and Georgia didn't want anymore Igbo slaves, because they constantly rebelled and worst yet committed suicide. One of the scariest slave to have was an Akan. Nat Turner in the US was of Akan descent and possibly even Igbo due to his being from Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner

Fwiw, you know that Yoruba people were not that rebellious as compared to Igbo people for a lot of reasons. Mainly, because slavery ended in the USA in 1865 after a prolonged brutal bloody civil war that the slaves participated within. Slavery didn't end in Brazil until 1888, which was 23 years after slavery ended in the USA. The crazy part about it is that the slaves in the USA were in the minority of the population; they have never been the majority. The black people in Brazil have always been in the majority of the population until just recent years.

OneNaira6:


You said if you want documentation on why igbo slaves were wanted in VA, I'll provide it suggesting you already got it but when told to provide, story change to I have to go look for it. this is what happened when you speak from your an us without any justification to back you up.
Anyway, I'll be Waiting on it. I'm interested to see the documentation that goes against every other written documentation of AA history. I'm very interested in to see that documentation.

sukkot:
brother, when it comes to the history of black people in the world from 6000 years ago till today, i dont think there is anyone on nairaland that can match my pedigree. i am known on nairaland for being a historian. so my pedigree stands on its own merit. best believe i know what i am talking about. THERE IS A REASON WHY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA ( A WHOLE STATE ) HAD 80 PERCENT IGBO SLAVES AND KEPT REQUESTING FOR NOTHING BUT IGBO SLAVES. THESE CRACKERS ( WHITE PEOPLE ) ARE NOT CRAZY. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL BE REQUESTING FOR ONLY SLAVES FROM A TRIBE THAT IS KNOWN TO HAVE VERY STUBBORN REBELLIOUS SLAVES ? DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU ? ANY CRACKER WOULD WANT SLAVES FROM WHERE THE MOST DOCILE PEACEFUL SLAVES COME FROM. AND THIS IS WHY IN VIRGINIA THEY ONLY WANTED IGBO SLAVES. IGBO SLAVES WERE MENTALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DEFEATED EASILY.

babyosisi:


Now I have found mine in addition to the ibo landing story which goes against your theory of Igbo slaves being subservient
They were not the desired slaves
They were said to be suicidal and committed suicide in large numbers because they couldn't bear to be enslaved
Igbo women were enslaved because they said they were pretty and fertile even though they often ran away also

OneNaira6:


Well all what I wrote about Haiti is what I learned from the Haitian population I hang out with. They never believed they have yoruba blood. The Akan is true. It actually not also likely, it's very likely. I just forget to include them in my post. The Haitians believed their blood line is identical to that of the English speaking caribbean nations as oppose to their Spanish speaking despite their close proximity to the Spanish groups.
Anyway, I haven't studied much of Haiti history. Everything I know about them is from their own mouth

MeandSum:


he asked you to prove what your said you're asking him to google for ibo. what has google got to do with that?

sukkot:
brother, when it comes to the history of black people in the world from 6000 years ago till today, i dont think there is anyone on nairaland that can match my pedigree. i am known on nairaland for being a historian. so my pedigree stands on its own merit. best believe i know what i am talking about. THERE IS A REASON WHY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA ( A WHOLE STATE ) HAD 80 PERCENT IGBO SLAVES AND KEPT REQUESTING FOR NOTHING BUT IGBO SLAVES. THESE CRACKERS ( WHITE PEOPLE ) ARE NOT CRAZY. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL BE REQUESTING FOR ONLY SLAVES FROM A TRIBE THAT IS KNOWN TO HAVE VERY STUBBORN REBELLIOUS SLAVES ? DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU ? ANY CRACKER WOULD WANT SLAVES FROM WHERE THE MOST DOCILE PEACEFUL SLAVES COME FROM. AND THIS IS WHY IN VIRGINIA THEY ONLY WANTED IGBO SLAVES. IGBO SLAVES WERE MENTALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DEFEATED EASILY.

AkanIgbo:


It is my hobby too. I can save you a lot of time and tell you right now that the Akan people were by far the most rebellious slaves. The second most rebellious group were the Igbos. Those two groups overthrew the slavers in in Haiti and Jamaica. The slavers in South Carolina and Georgia didn't want anymore Igbo slaves, because they constantly rebelled and worst yet committed suicide. One of the scariest slave to have was an Akan. Nat Turner in the US was of Akan descent and possibly even Igbo due to his being from Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner

Fwiw, you know that Yoruba people were not that rebellious as compared to Igbo people for a lot of reasons. Mainly, because slavery ended in the USA in 1865 after a prolonged brutal bloody civil war that the slaves participated within. Slavery didn't end in Brazil until 1888, which was 23 years after slavery ended in the USA. The crazy part about it is that the slaves in the USA were in the minority of the population; they have never been the majority. The black people in Brazil have always been in the majority of the population until just recent years.

MeandSum:


he asked you to prove what your said you're asking him to google for ibo. what has google got to do with that?

rusher14:


You may well be a renowned historian but please provide proof to back up you claims of the easily subdued nature of the Igbo slave.

sukkot:
Listen, it was easy for slaves to be rebellious in haiti or jamaica or other carribean island because the slaves outnumbered the whites by like 50 to 1. caucasians in charge of slaves in those islands did not live in those islands. they were drafted to those islands to go be in charge of the slaves. these caucasians had their permanent homes in europe but came on a rota basis from their governments to come guard the slaves and the plantations. so it was very easy to be rebellious in haiti and the carribeans. its easy to be rebellious when you outnumber the cracker by 50 to 1 . now in the USA, the slaves were outnumbered by whites and were brutally dealt with so those same akan slaves and igbo slaves who were rebellious in the islands were very subservient in USA.

OneNaira6:


She is right and the sukkot guy is wrong.

The red eboe, a jamacian/caribbean term was derived from the presence of the igbo slaves, whom they also call eboe


The attached book is a portion of the ddictionary of Jamaican english by Federic Cassidy et al.

rusher14:


You may well be a renowned historian but please provide proof to back up you claims of the easily subdued nature of the Igbo slave.

sukkot:
you are speaking through your ass and igbos do not have the most fair skinned in nigeria. that title goes to the fulanis. stop these your biafran concoctions please. its embarrasing

sukkot:
Listen, it was easy for slaves to be rebellious in haiti or jamaica or other carribean island because the slaves outnumbered the whites by like 50 to 1. caucasians in charge of slaves in those islands did not live in those islands. they were drafted to those islands to go be in charge of the slaves. these caucasians had their permanent homes in europe but came on a rota basis from their governments to come guard the slaves and the plantations. so it was very easy to be rebellious in haiti and the carribeans. its easy to be rebellious when you outnumber the cracker by 50 to 1 . now in the USA, the slaves were outnumbered by whites and were brutally dealt with so those same akan slaves and igbo slaves who were rebellious in the islands were very subservient in USA.

AkanIgbo:


Black people in America were really rebellious. They constantly had rebellions going and they were in the minority of the population. They poisoned slavers and faced them in armed rebellion year after year which is why white people act with acts of barbarism when dealing with Black Americans. White people lived in constant fear of Black people during slavery; so much so that they refused to let black people play drums, speak their native languages or practice any religion other than Christianity and then the only thing that could be preached about Christianity is peace. love and forgiveness. That is the reason that African Americans have nonviolent movements political movements to this very day. Meanwhile the White man can be as violent as he wants to be.

Btw, slave rebellions were also the reason that Akans and Igbos were in the USA to begin with. The Europeans wanted those two groups on small farms in the USA as much as possible, rather than on the large plantations in the Caribbean and South America. The Europeans thought that they could control the rebellions much better if the slaves were isolated on the smaller farms. It would have been tougher on the large plantations with more slaves. They also didn't give the slaves freedom of movement or teach them to read in the USA.

khiaa:



Gumbo is nothing like okro soup.

Phut:


Which one you dey? She said igbo'so are the fairest in Southern Nigeria and you are there mentioning Fulani's. Are the Fulani's in Southern Nogeria?

In the meantime, google Red Eboe to see how the phrase came about hundreds of years ago

sukkot:
the fairest in southern nigeria are calabar not igbo

OneNaira6:


No it was wolof. Wolof were the most rebellious, followed by Akan then Igbo and finally Angolan clans

sukkot:
the fairest in southern nigeria are calabar not igbo