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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 1:25am On May 04, 2015 |
babyosisi:i have not read it in a year or two. i have to search for it. but rest assured before the topic leaves frontpage i would have found it. see, i am what is called, A HISTORIAN by hobby. my specialty is the trans-atlantic slave trade and the plight of negros in the americas |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by AkanIgbo: 1:27am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: I am mostly Igbo and Akan DNA. In countries where the slaves were taken the Europeans forced them to intermarry, most black people in the West are mixed ethnically. It is not just Igbo, but most English speaking black people are descended from Akan and Igbo folks. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 1:28am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: And I'm telling you provide those "well documented Virginia history". How hard is that? Mind you I went to school in Virginia. I took most of my AA history courses in VA so I'm waiting on YOU to provide those well documented Virginian history. Simple as ABC 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 1:28am On May 04, 2015 |
PPAngel:in my lifetime i have only seen a handful of light skin igbos thanks to the bleaching cream. so i dont know where you get this igbos are light nonsense. only light skin women in southern nigeria are calabar |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 1:31am On May 04, 2015 |
OneNaira6:i went to school in chicago and london so whats your point ? relax. i gotta hunt for the document. like i said i had it in my archives when i was gung ho about the slavery history of america but i am over that phase and i decluttered my archives and deleted it. but i will dig in google. i am sure i will find it |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 1:34am On May 04, 2015 |
AkanIgbo: Well all what I wrote about Haiti is what I learned from the Haitian population I hang out with. They never believed they have yoruba blood. The Akan is true. It actually not also likely, it's very likely. I just forget to include them in my post. The Haitians believed their blood line is identical to that of the English speaking caribbean nations as oppose to their Spanish speaking despite their close proximity to the Spanish groups. Anyway, I haven't studied much of Haiti history. Everything I know about them is from their own mouth 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 1:36am On May 04, 2015 |
AkanIgbo:well most portuguese speaking black people are yoruba. its all a question of where the slave ships docked that determined if you spoke english, french, portuguese or spanish. all black people ferried on slave ships were but a boat ride away in terms of what language they would speak in future generations |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by MeandSum: 1:38am On May 04, 2015 |
PPAngel:he asked you to prove what your said you're asking him to google for ibo. what has google got to do with that? |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by AkanIgbo: 1:38am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: It is my hobby too. I can save you a lot of time and tell you right now that the Akan people were by far the most rebellious slaves. The second most rebellious group were the Igbos. Those two groups overthrew the slavers in in Haiti and Jamaica. The slavers in South Carolina and Georgia didn't want anymore Igbo slaves, because they constantly rebelled and worst yet committed suicide. One of the scariest slave to have was an Akan. Nat Turner in the US was of Akan descent and possibly even Igbo due to his being from Virginia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner Fwiw, you know that Yoruba people were not that rebellious as compared to Igbo people for a lot of reasons. Mainly, because slavery ended in the USA in 1865 after a prolonged brutal bloody civil war that the slaves participated within. Slavery didn't end in Brazil until 1888, which was 23 years after slavery ended in the USA. The crazy part about it is that the slaves in the USA were in the minority of the population; they have never been the majority. The black people in Brazil have always been in the majority of the population until just recent years. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 1:38am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: You said if you want documentation on why igbo slaves were wanted in VA, I'll provide it suggesting you already got it but when told to provide, story change to I have to go look for it. ![]() ![]() ![]() Anyway, I'll be Waiting on it. I'm interested to see the documentation that goes against every other written documentation of AA history. I'm very interested in to see that documentation. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 1:42am On May 04, 2015 |
Video documentary of the inauguration of Igbo Village, Virginia [flash] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmi_Uz7DMA0 [/flash] 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 1:46am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: Now I have found mine in addition to the ibo landing story which goes against your theory of Igbo slaves being subservient They were not the desired slaves They were said to be suicidal and committed suicide in large numbers because they couldn't bear to be enslaved Igbo women were enslaved because they said they were pretty and fertile some accounts say even though they often ran away also https://books.google.com/books?id=8Kv_613fb6cC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=igbo+slaves+were+not+desirable&source=bl&ots=xdyt0EeY24&sig=7J0Msvvnd1DACvcJ4TiJb659MRs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ar9GVfneI4XWsAXNgYG4Cw&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=igbo%20slaves%20were%20not%20desirable&f=false 3 Likes
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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 1:49am On May 04, 2015 |
AkanIgbo: No it was wolof. Wolof were the most rebellious, followed by Akan then Igbo and finally Angolan clans 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 1:50am On May 04, 2015 |
OneNaira6:brother, when it comes to the history of black people in the world from 6000 years ago till today, i dont think there is anyone on nairaland that can match my pedigree. i am known on nairaland for being a historian. so my pedigree stands on its own merit. best believe i know what i am talking about. THERE IS A REASON WHY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA ( A WHOLE STATE ) HAD 80 PERCENT IGBO SLAVES AND KEPT REQUESTING FOR NOTHING BUT IGBO SLAVES. THESE CRACKERS ( WHITE PEOPLE ) ARE NOT CRAZY. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL BE REQUESTING FOR ONLY SLAVES FROM A TRIBE THAT IS KNOWN TO HAVE VERY STUBBORN REBELLIOUS SLAVES ? DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU ? ANY CRACKER WOULD WANT SLAVES FROM WHERE THE MOST DOCILE PEACEFUL SLAVES COME FROM. AND THIS IS WHY IN VIRGINIA THEY ONLY WANTED IGBO SLAVES. IGBO SLAVES WERE MENTALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DEFEATED EASILY. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 1:53am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: babyosisi: |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by MeandSum: 1:56am On May 04, 2015 |
OneNaira6: Well, tell them they know nothing ![]() |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 1:58am On May 04, 2015 |
MeandSum: She is right and the sukkot guy is wrong. The red eboe, a jamacian/caribbean term was derived from the presence of the igbo slaves, whom they also call eboe The attached book is a portion of the ddictionary of Jamaican english by Federic Cassidy et al. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by rusher14: 1:59am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: You may well be a renowned historian but please provide proof to back up you claims of the easily subdued nature of the Igbo slave. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 2:00am On May 04, 2015 |
AkanIgbo:Listen, it was easy for slaves to be rebellious in haiti or jamaica or other carribean island because the slaves outnumbered the whites by like 50 to 1. caucasians in charge of slaves in those islands did not live in those islands. they were drafted to those islands to go be in charge of the slaves. these caucasians had their permanent homes in europe but came on a rota basis from their governments to come guard the slaves and the plantations. so it was very easy to be rebellious in haiti and the carribeans. its easy to be rebellious when you outnumber the cracker by 50 to 1 . now in the USA, the slaves were outnumbered by whites and were brutally dealt with so those same akan slaves and igbo slaves who were rebellious in the islands were very subservient in USA. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 2:02am On May 04, 2015 |
MeandSum: Another by Emily smith 1 Like
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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 2:03am On May 04, 2015 |
rusher14:i will. i am answering questions posted to me so i havent had the time yet. but best believe when i log off nairaland i will search for it and it will be up hopefully by tomorrow morning. |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 2:04am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: OneNaira6: |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 2:05am On May 04, 2015 |
rusher14: Biko help me ask am. I think about four asked him the same thing and he still have not provided one proof. We are still waiting oo 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Phut(f): 2:15am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: Which one you dey? She said igbo'so are the fairest in Southern Nigeria and you are there mentioning Fulani's. Are the Fulani's in Southern Nogeria? In the meantime, google Red Eboe to see how the phrase came about hundreds of years ago 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by AkanIgbo: 2:15am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: Black people in America were really rebellious. They constantly had rebellions going and they were in the minority of the population. They poisoned slavers and faced them in armed rebellion year after year which is why white people act with acts of barbarism when dealing with Black Americans. White people lived in constant fear of Black people during slavery; so much so that they refused to let black people play drums, speak their native languages or practice any religion other than Christianity and then the only thing that could be preached about Christianity is peace. love and forgiveness. That is the reason that African Americans have nonviolent movements political movements to this very day. Meanwhile the White man can be as violent as he wants to be. Btw, slave rebellions were also the reason that Akans and Igbos were in the USA to begin with. The Europeans wanted those two groups on small farms in the USA as much as possible, rather than on the large plantations in the Caribbean and South America. The Europeans thought that they could control the rebellions much better if the slaves were isolated on the smaller farms. It would have been tougher on the large plantations with more slaves. They also didn't give the slaves freedom of movement or teach them to read in the USA. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 2:18am On May 04, 2015 |
The story of Haiti is also well documented Igbo slaves there were not willing to be slaves Anyone labeling Igbos subservient told a big lie It goes against our ethos as a people https://books.google.com/books?id=Zm7sWUbDWakC&pg=PA49&dq=Igbo+slaves+in+Haiti&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tcZGVYC2MYvlsAX79YCgBA&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Igbo%20slaves%20in%20Haiti&f=false 3 Likes
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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 2:18am On May 04, 2015 |
AkanIgbo:the rebellions in the USA were very few and far between. the reason why the slave rebellions made history in USA is because they were very few. and if they happened it made the world papers. and the two rebellions in question are the nat turner rebellion and the gabriel prosser rebellion. of course we had the slave rebellion led by the white man named JOHN BROWN that failed in virginia |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 2:19am On May 04, 2015 |
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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 2:20am On May 04, 2015 |
Phut:the fairest in southern nigeria are calabar not igbo |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 2:21am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: 1. There's no such thing as "Calabar", 2. The DNA variation between Cross River peoples and Igbo people is very slim. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by AkanIgbo: 2:22am On May 04, 2015 |
OneNaira6: I can't speak much to the Wolofs, because I am having a hard time remembering my readings on where they were taken during the slave trade. But I believe you, because I remember reading that they and the Mande people made White people very nervous. I agree with you about the Angolans as well. Btw, here is a listing of the top 5 rebellions in USA history. The Angolans are mentioned and I remember that the USA had some Angolans here as well. I think that the Angolans were brough into Louisiana after the USA purchased the Louisiana territory from France. I am not sure about that though. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/did-african-american-slaves-rebel/ |
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 2:23am On May 04, 2015 |
sukkot: Hahahahaha Try harder Dispelling a well known truth 3 Likes |
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