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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:14am On May 06, 2015 |
jln115: You forgot the type 10 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:38am On May 06, 2015 |
Within the next 18 months Denel will have a clear idea of whether it will restart Rooivalk production as it talks to possible partner nations/clients and engages with the Department of Defence. Both the South African and foreign militaries have expressed interest in restarting production. Riaz Saloojee, Denel Group CEO pointed out to defenceWeb that defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula is on record saying that the Rooivalk needs to be re-established as a strategic sovereign capability for use in places like the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). Saloojee told defenceWeb that Denel is establishing a roadmap for the Rooivalk which will include an upgrade of the current Rooivalk Mk 1 baseline that will form the building blocks to a Rooivalk Mk 2 variant which would be a new capability Rooivalk for both the SAAF and potential export market. This involves examining the feasibility of restarting production, looking at technology improvements and finding partners. He said that is will be “essential” to find an international partner and that Denel is in discussion with a number of countries in this regard. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38986&catid=74&Itemid=30 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:41am On May 06, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:16am On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust:They'll be phased as the F-35 is introduced. The F-35 won't be used by the air force only. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:26am On May 06, 2015 |
Nigeria borrows money to pay government salaries Africa's biggest economy faces "revenue challenges" that have affected expenditure, finance minister says. Eighty percent of the Nigerian government revenue come from oil exports [Reuters] Africa's richest economy is borrowing money to pay salaries as it struggles through a "difficult cash crunch" brought on by halved oil prices, Nigeria's finance minister revealed. The news comes as Nigeria prepares to welcome a new government at the end of this month and the country's naira currency remains in a slump, hovering between 180 and 220 to the US dollar. It was trading at 160 a few months ago. Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala tried to be upbeat in a speech on Tuesday after lawmakers approved the 2015 budget - revised three times because of slashed oil prices that provide 80 percent of revenue for the government of Africa's biggest petroleum producer. She said "revenue challenges" had prohibited the release of any funds for capital expenditure this year but that food prices and single-digit inflation remained quite stable. And she said the economy still was on course to grow 4.8 percent this year. "We have front-loaded the borrowing program to manage the cash crunch," Okonjo-Iweala told lawmakers. "Out of the 882 billon naira budgetary provision for borrowing, the government has borrowed 473 billion naira to meet up with recurrent expenditure, including salaries and overheads." That is bad news for the incoming government of President-elect Muhammadu Buhari, who takes over on May 29 from incumbent Goodluck Jonathan. Buhari acknowledges that constricted revenue and endemic corruption threaten his will to deliver on development and reconstruction of areas devastated by a nearly 6-year-old rebel uprising in the northeast. He says his fight against corruption should produce the money needed to bring change to a country where oil proceeds benefit a small clique while the majority of the 170 million people in Africa's most populous nation live hand to mouth. Critics blame the financial crisis in part on the most expensive election ever held in Nigeria, though no one knows how much politicians from both sides spent during their campaigns. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/150506055148505.html 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:28am On May 06, 2015 |
Thiza: It WILL happen. Noway will it be abandoned. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:30am On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120: The Tiger tank had more powerful gun compared to its rivals like T-34. Was it a better tank? NO. Mobility, armour, fire power etc |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:42am On May 06, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The T-34 is rated higher than the Tiger tank because of it's at the time, innovative Slat armour, mobility and speed of production. 1300 T-34 tanks were built per-month at the height of world war 2. The T-14 brings Armour, firepower, mobility and Afganit active protection. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:49am On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120: So does any number of tanks. The Merk 4, for example, has all of those things AND can carry troops. While the K2 has those AND we know its specifications. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:51am On May 06, 2015 |
jln115: "the 2A82-1M gun offers 15 to 20 percent improved accuracy and its rolling fire angular dispersion has improved 1.7 times. Its muzzle velocity/energy is greater than the German Leopard 2 A6's 120mm gun from Rheinmetall." |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:54am On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120:So the gun is a bit more powerful than the Leo2, what els sets it apart? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:58am On May 06, 2015 |
patches689: That's the basic standard for measuring tanks. All of them have those. The only difference is the T-14 is faster than any Tank in service today, has better Armour than any Tank in service today, has better protection than any Tank in service today, has better firepower than any. No hating on the Russian bear boy........ they have the world's best Tank. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:59am On May 06, 2015 |
jln115: Go back to my earlier post. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:14pm On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Type 99 is just as fast So thats a lie You dont know what armor it has. And judging by the fact that it is significantly lighter than anything else i doubt it has very much in the way of armor. So thats a lie Merk has a battle tested system that has been operationally in use for longer. You dont even know the stats for the active protection on the T-14 So thats another lie. Again, how is it the best? All we have here is a lightweight tank that is fast with an autoloader from the 1980's with an untested gun and untested active defence. Its a neat all rounder, but thats it - jack of all trades, master of none. Your statement is based on incomplete facts and thus can only be ascribed to balatant bias |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:51pm On May 06, 2015 |
jln115:The tank’s main armament is the 2A82 125-mm smoothbore cannon, capable of firing high-powered munitions,including armor-piercing discarding sabot, guided missile, shaped-charge, and other types of munitions. The T-14 is equipped with the Chelyabinsk A-85-3A X-diesel engine capable of producing up to 1500 hp. It also has a tank information control system (TICS) that monitors all assemblies and components, diagnoses malfunctions, and controls onboard systems. the active defense system deserves special attention. It is an individual anti-missile and anti-projectile tank defense system, supposedly capable of intercepting any type of anti-tank ammunition. “It defends the vehicle from strikes, including those from the air. Thus, even the most modern Apache helicopter will not have a 100 percent chance of destroying a T-14 with its missiles. Active defense is situated along the entire perimeter of the turret at various levels, which ensures complete protection of the tank’s most important elements,” according to the FSMO report. Fifth-generation fighters are already flying, but only second-generation tanks are in the inventories throughout the entire world. So the Armata will become the first series-produced third-generation tank |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:01pm On May 06, 2015 |
patches689: "Fifth-generation fighters are already flying, but only second-generation tanks are in the inventories throughout the entire world. So the Armata will become the first series-produced third-generation tank " The T-14 is the world's only 3rd generation Tank. Stop hating boy!! You're like the South-African version of chukwucantdie. The F-22 is an untested fighter, yet you refer to it as the world's best Air-superiority fighter. Now, this is one of your most r3tarded comments yet, and you have many. You refer to the Rafale as the world's best JSF ahead of Fifth generation F-35's despite it been a virtually untested expensive fighter. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:54pm On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Because we all know the capabilities of the F35, F22 and Rafael We dont know the capabilities of the T-14 And the person who wrote this source of yours clearly knows nothing about MBTs - as there are currently 20 or so Third Generation tank designs as well as a further 10 or so 3+ Generation MBT's T-14 is simply a 3+ Gen MBT - same as the Leo2A7, Type 99, Merk 4, K2 and Type 10. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:59pm On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120: 3rd Generation MBT's: - T80 - Leo2 (legacy) - M1A1 (legacy) - Challenger 1 - EE-T1 - Merkava Mark II/III - Type 90 Kyū-maru - AMX Leclerc - Zulfiqar - PT-91 Twardy - C1 Ariete - K1A1 - T-90 A - Challenger 2 - T-84 - Type 98/99 - MBT 2000 - Arjun - Merkava Mk V Now that we have shown that your source is utterly unreliable trash. Lets move on |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:16pm On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120: I wonder why people keep saying American and European weapons technology is superior to that of Russia . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22pm On May 06, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:23pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Because everytime they meet in conventional war, Western weapons annihilate Eastern ones 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:24pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust: The Islamic State group claimed responsibility Tuesday for the assault on a Texas cartoon contest that featured images of the Prophet Muhammad, but counterterrorism experts said IS has a history of asserting involvement in attacks in which it had no operational role. http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/05/texas_cartoon_contest_shooters.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:26pm On May 06, 2015 |
patches689: Let the yankees prove it was not ISIS. The Americans have a history of not wanting to agree ISIS is hitting them at home on American soil. ISIS 'agents' have hit cities in Europe several times. Let America prove it's not ISIS. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:31pm On May 06, 2015 |
patches689: Nope, the users of Russian weapons were armed with older generations and used them against the latest generations of American weapons. Iraqi T-72 tanks defeated British Chieftain tanks in 1980s, but by 1990s the T-72 became onsolete with RHA armour and was defeated by mordern American Abrams tanks with composite armour. Russian MiG-23 jets defeated French Mirage jets in Angolan bush war. Also Russian T-62 tanks defeated British Centurion/Olifant tanks in Angola. Show us where F-15 defeated Su-27 . Russia itself has not fought NATO-USA, only then shall we know who has better weapons. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:44pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust: 1. T-72 defeated Chieftain tank Citation needed 2. T-72's are normally upgraded with reactive armor and can be fitted with composite armor. Not to mention that the T-72 remaind the backbone of Russia's MBT forces 3. Mig-23 v Mirage O well done, a twin engined air-superiority fighter from the 1970's performed better than a single engined multi-role platform designed in the 1950's Iranian F-14's smashed the Mig-23 in the Iraq-Iran war. 4. T62 v Olifant Citation needed 5 F-15 v Su-27 Su-27 hasnt seen any combat. Russian arms and equipment have been tested over and over, and their terrible quality is well documented. The 6-Day War, Yom Kippur, Gulf War 1, Gulf War 2, India v Pakistan the list is endless. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:12pm On May 06, 2015 |
patches689: You don't need citations posted for you unless you are have down's syndrome and born a m0ron and cannot use google search engine without an online tutorial demo user guide/manual. Russia's frontline tank today for conventional war is T-90 not T-72. T-72 Vs Chieftain Iran -Iraq war T-62 Vs Centurion/Olifant Angolan war Mirage F1 is not a 1950s aircraft, it's same 1970s generation with MiG-23 that defeated it in Angola. F-14 is 4th generation jet, MiG-23 is 3rd generation....exactly my point....generation gap mismatch,not technical superiority....proved me right Did you see the part of your post that has large fonts? Su-27 has not seen any combat you claim? Fool ![]() ![]() Su-27 defeated MiG-29 in Ethiopia Vs Eritrea war, you just proved that your entire post/comment is rubbish, m0ron ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:17pm On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120:Yet you were saying its 125mm gun put it above western tanks. 1. We don't know its armour: we can't compare. 2. We don't know its engine type: we can't compare. There's so much we don't yet about the T-14 to reach conclusions. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:23pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust:Western nations are ahead of Russia in many tech field. In fact Russia follows western military threads and development. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:24pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust: 1. Russia's frontline tank today is the T-72, with it making up the majority of their tank forces 2. Citation needed for T-72 v Cheiftan 3. Citation needed for T-62 v Olifant 4. Citation for Mirage defeat in Angola 5.Hahaha, you dumb fvck, you dont know what the F-14 Phantom is? 6. Su-27 has not seen combat against western equipment This guy claims to be a military researcher... but he thinks an F-14 is 4th gen bwa-hahahahahahahaha |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:27pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust:The October war is a great example. The T-62 with its night fighting capabilities was getting destroyed by Israeli Centurions. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:31pm On May 06, 2015 |
agaugust:No country or group of countries can defeat the USA conventionally if it has the political will and support of its people. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:33pm On May 06, 2015 |
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