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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 11:47pm On May 06, 2015 |
Henry120:The Russians are not playing obviously...thanx for the info sir |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:51am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Nigerian air defence system today beats that of Libya, the Libyan military is too weak for a conventional war after years of arms embargo, internal sabotage by civil war, and neglect of maintenance. If need to destroy a Rafale jet, Russian S-400 system will do it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:58am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Sudan cannot build anything like a Nigerian Gulma drone. Many Sudanese stuff are ancient, their only strength is the air force....because they have no navy to spend money on, their air force got much focus with government spending. Look at many African countries that have better jets than Nigeria, either they have no navy to spend money on because they are land-locked, or they neglect their navy and spend double on their air forces, e.g : Ethiopia Eritrea Sudan Angola Uganda If Nigeria too diverted navy funds to our air force, we will be flying 100 units of Su-30 MKI 4th gen jets since 10 years ago . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:05am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Today, Libya has nothing to match Nigerian Roland. South Africa has an air defence worse than Libya, your SANDF parades Starstreak toy-like anti-aircraft missile with 1km max ceiling, just manages to fly past the roof of my house ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:03am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope - you have made claims, you need to back them up with fact. Thats how it works. 1. Majority of Russian MBT's are T-72. They are the foundation of their armored forces 2. You said I must show you where the Su-27 was shot down by an F-15... I told you it has never seen combat against Western Jets 3. Why wont you post your citation for Gripen ground search radar? The Phantom error was a typo. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:04am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Isrealy forces were poised to capture both Cairo and Damascus at the end of that war. It was a clear Isrealy victory |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:04am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Who said the Mirage F1 ran away? Evidence has been posted that they were flying sorties until the end of the war. Why do you keep telling lies? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:06am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120:Well you didnt know that there were over 20 types of 3rd gen MBT |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:08am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust: South Africa has a better airforce and navy than Nigeria Gulma drone is a direct copy of an isrealy drone 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:09am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Because we are building a domestic air defence system composed of VSHORAD, CRAM and tactical air defence missiles. We are in no rush and the program is developing nicely |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:17am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120: Someone has no idea what they are talking about. - Unit price will decrease dramatically with production. Unit cost is currently high because only 100 have been made. Ever heard of economies of scale? - Actually, its designed to be VTOL for the Marines. USAF/USN variants takes up ground strike and air-superiority roles, loiter time is irrelevant when you can re-fuel in the air - even when it was shot down, the F117 was no where near top of the range and is based on technology from the 1970s. I have no idea how you can draw parrallels between it and a completely different jet. - Yes, but it is incredibly difficult to target with modern systems. Its not a stealth fighter, its a stealthy fighter - Nonsense - Short wing? which variant? The USN VTOL variant which is the smallest so it can operate off LHD's? The USAF variant designed for super-cruise? or the USN variant with extended wings - The F-35 has 11 hard points and can carry about three times (18,000lbs) the stores load of that of an F-16. So, well done. You have proven that you have no idea what you are talking about. As usual. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:08am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120: Every time Western Equipment has faced Eastern Equipment the Western Equipment has completely and utterly anniahlated to Eastern Equipment - this is fact, pure and simple. Now, onto the T-34. It was the best tank of the war for just one single year - 1941. It was then superceded by multiple tanks by the end of the war, the Panzer MkIV (Ausf. J and Ausf. H), The British Comet, the M4 Sherman Firefly and the Russian T-44 were all superior in every single way. Thats right - it was not even the best Russian tank of the war[/b] And that is just medium tanks... lets not even talk about Panthers and Tigers or M26 Pershing. The T-34 was a steaming pile of sh1t, it had terrible optics, its engine was renowned for breaking down, the crew had to traverse the turret by hand, its ergonomics were abysmal, most didnt even have radio's. Its only saving grace was that the Russians could churn out 2000 per month... which was essential for them... [b]because the T-34 loss to kill ratio was 3:1. Thats right, 3 T-34's were lost for every single German tank destroyed in actual combat. This superiority stands today as well. Despite multiple wars, no single Abrams has even been penetrated, no single Abrams crewman has been killed, the Chally2 was only penetrated once - by a top the of line RPG and when that RPG hit THE UNDERSIDE of the vehical - and the crewman lost a toe and continued fighting anyway. After that the British added another 20 tonnes of armor just for fun. Thats right, with 2 major wars under their belts, as well as 11 years of COIN operations, the M1A2 has never been penetrated, and the Chally 2 has never been destroyed by hostile fire. Also, guess which tank holds the world record for the longest range tank kill. On the otherhand, every single war the T-72 or T-80 has been involved in has seen them being obliterated left right and center. Russian tanks as a rule are completely inferior to their Western counterparts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:30am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120:Tears!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nigeria is not making missiles and self propelled howitzers! No Innovation in Nigeria! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:43am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120:Sour grapes! Rooivalk MK 2 ![]() ![]() ![]() Instead of thinking about our helicopter replacement, you should think or worry about your rebel defence acquisition system. You continue going to backyards and bins, you replace a hind with second hand hind ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In fact you should know by now that SA with its strong defence acquisition system will get a better deal if we need more or new attack helicopters. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:46am On May 07, 2015 |
lezz:Come! Let's go into detail. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:50am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust:Beats Libyan air defence system how? Go into detail augubugubu. Your air defence system is made up of obsolete 70s missiles and 80s design guns. You think a pilot will just wake up and take off to attack an air defence system? The Rafale can bridge or destroy the S-400 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:56am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust:. Your Gulma is nothing impressive. Sudan builds MANPADS and self propelled howitzers! Your navy? You mean the sea arm of your armed forces which funnily enough can't wage a conventional war at sea. An unbalanced navy when comparing surface and sub-surface. So Uganda has a better air force than Nigeria? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:58am On May 07, 2015 |
agaugust:Should we put your 70s Roland missile in obsolete class augubugubu? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:02am On May 07, 2015 |
patches689:With 5 types of radars! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:16am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:yes details. where the SANDF was besieged by angolan troops. where teenage cuba pilots chased you out of the skies and the SANDF and its merceneries were whooped by little angola. YOUR ANC GOVERNMENT HAS VISITED ANGOLA SOMETIME THIS YEAR IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:05am On May 07, 2015 |
lezz:Why were they besieged? The SANDF was formed in 1994. SADF conscripts were teenagers average age being 17-22. You're like Evarns! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:08am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Soweto r3tard! SAAF isn't getting anymore Half-french Helicopters, if you were, you won't have only 10 in active service. When Nigerian went to the market to purchase Helicopters, Africa felt it. 40 attack/Transport Helicopters in all, excluding up-grades done to NAF super-Puma's. -12 MI-35M and 12 MI-171sh Terminator -At least 8 MI-24v Helicopters and MI-17 from ukraine -12 MI-35p from belarus. -At leat 8 Gazelle Helicopters for Army Air corps. * drones and additional survelliance planes not added. * watch this space, the Nigerian Army Air corps is seriously considering the TAI T129 ATAK Helicopter. This is how we ball bi.tch !! ![]() ![]() ![]() Yes, I know how the SAAF spent money on jets it cannot afford, it cannot fly and cannot keep in the air. 9 pilots in 16 years isn't actually a stellar record. We also know how your project biro is about to celebrate it's 23 birthday as a colossal pipe dream. TBH, i'm genuinely concerned. So, white boy, what is going to replace your half-french helicopter? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:13am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: We are currently designing our satellites, UAVs and propulsion systems. Anybody can strap a D-30 to the back of a kamaz 6x6, if this is what you call innovation, then you are actually more r3tarded than actually thought. Nigeria is the most innovative country in Africa. Don't worry, you would soon be ordering OPV's, corvettes and Frigates from Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:35am On May 07, 2015 |
lezz: When were our men beseiged? When were our pilots chased out of the skies? In which battle where we whooped? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:40am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120:"Don't worry, you would soon be ordering OPV's, corvettes and Frigates from Nigeria" Naa.....We will start building our own in the next few months. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:40am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120: And yet the facts are this: 1. Restarting Rooivalk production is being seriously considered 2. SAAF has a minimum of 14 Gripen pilots. We are also outfitting the Gripen with a suite of indigenous weapons systems 3. Project Biro is in its closing stages. Tenders for 3 frigate sized OPVs will be announced after june 30 4. Nigeria orderd less than 40 helicopters - the majority of which are based on an utterly obsolete system that the Russians are in the process of retiring So, little black boy - how does it feel having a 3rd world airforce composed of new helicopters that manage to be obsolete? You wanna talk about how we roll? You wanted new jets - you got 12 ancient F7s We bough over 50 - including one of the most advanced fighters in Africa You wanted to grow your heli-lift and you get less than 40 obsolete platforms We wanted to do the same - we upgrade and purchase over 90 helicopters You wanted to grow your navy - you got some ancient donated cutters and 2 cheap gunboats We wanted to grow our navy - we got 4 of the most advances frigates in africa (at that time) and 3 submarines You wanted to grow your armies armored capabilities - you get (a maximum of) 56 obsolete t72s and 6 or so obsolete btr-4s We got 236 of the most advaced IFVs in Africa You are nothing compared to us, never have been and never will be. You are simply too poor. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:41am On May 07, 2015 |
Henry120: If you are so innovative why arent you able to strap a d30 onto a truck? Nigeria is decades behind south africa by any standard of innovation |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:42am On May 07, 2015 |
lezz:Are you getting this bull sh1t from that forum of yours? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:02am On May 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:of course Mandela formed the sandf with zulu freedom fighters, reason for your shotage of skilled men. ALRIGHT, whatever name your military was known by , SANDF, SADF or ZULU RESISTANCE ARMY, they were humiliated in angola with Botha scurrying to boost the morals of men who were being taught a bitter lesson by teenage Cuban pilots and little Angola. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:09am On May 07, 2015 |
lezz: How about some citations to back that up? All freedom fighters intergrated into the SADF were retrained from scratch by members fo the former SADF |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:27am On May 07, 2015 |
patches689:And here comes the citation destitute. your have successfully killed the relevance of source;.. and since you have the reputation of disputing valid links and sources with lame tact, you shall have no more source for the time being. HERE ARE THE FACTS: The SANDF is recruiting now and the quest for skilled personell is high on their list. the SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT WENT TO ANGOLA somewhere this year AND ACKNOLEDGED ANGOLA'S HEROICS IN THE WAY. you can consult your government archives now |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ukemeramat(m): 11:28am On May 07, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: which NE theatre? how did u access nairaland from there when communication has been cut off. mumu!!! u can only do that when u are in maidugri!!!! Young man, i never said that SANDF is more superior to NA mind u. am only quoting as at NA present situation the govt left it... it can't challenge other african power house for now... rough but simple truth! |
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