Henry120:


Nothing extensive at the moment on any of them.


However, what is currently known about the T-14, it out-classes what the U.S currently has in service. It completely and utterly has no equal in the U.S military.

The T-14 Heavy IFV also has no match in U.S military service. Again it out-matches anything the U.S can throw at it.



The U.S had their "ground combat infantry fighting vehicle program", however it seems the program has been cancelled.

The German puma used to be the world's best IFV, until the Kurganets showed up. Now, there is a new kid on the block. The Americans did not even have the world's 4th best IFV, so absolutely no competition in the round.


The Boomerang is an everyday 8x8. It more like the French VBCI, but I suspect it's more heavily armoured. The Americans have similar systems already in service. The mowag they call the Stryker is one example.

The Russians are not playing obviously...thanx for the info sir

MikeCZAR:
. Libya had better air defence systems than Nigeria today.

If a need to destroy S-400 system arose thee Rafale can.

Nigerian air defence system today beats that of Libya, the Libyan military is too weak for a conventional war after years of arms embargo, internal sabotage by civil war, and neglect of maintenance.

If need to destroy a Rafale jet, Russian S-400 system will do it.

MikeCZAR:
Sour grapes!

How's your Epe rocket coming along?


Sudan is surpassing Nigeria in military innovation and tech.

Sudan cannot build anything like a Nigerian Gulma drone.

Many Sudanese stuff are ancient, their only strength is the air force....because they have no navy to spend money on, their air force got much focus with government spending.

Look at many African countries that have better jets than Nigeria, either they have no navy to spend money on because they are land-locked, or they neglect their navy and spend double on their air forces, e.g :

Ethiopia
Eritrea
Sudan
Angola
Uganda

If Nigeria too diverted navy funds to our air force, we will be flying 100 units of Su-30 MKI 4th gen jets since 10 years ago
.

MikeCZAR:
Can you also put your 1970s Roland missile in that class?

Today, Libya has nothing to match Nigerian Roland.

South Africa has an air defence worse than Libya, your SANDF parades Starstreak toy-like anti-aircraft missile with 1km max ceiling, just manages to fly past the roof of my house Even Togo Republic will whitewash South African army with Alpha jets
.

agaugust:


I don't post citation for foolish questions you always ask. Waste your own time not mine.

Russia will not field old T-72 against NATO in war, they will lead attack with T-90 in frontline.

You said Su-27 has not seen combat, that is the third time you will say it in a few months and I keep educating you about Badme war, fact is you know next to nothing about air warfare, that's why you called F-14 Tomcat an F-14 Phantom twice in 30 minutes, same reason you say Gripen jet radar in ground search is 120 km range

Nope - you have made claims, you need to back them up with fact. Thats how it works.

1. Majority of Russian MBT's are T-72. They are the foundation of their armored forces
2. You said I must show you where the Su-27 was shot down by an F-15... I told you it has never seen combat against Western Jets
3. Why wont you post your citation for Gripen ground search radar?

The Phantom error was a typo.

agaugust:


Israeli forces suffered very heavy equipment losses in their last war with Egypt....it was a stalemate....draw....no winner
.

Isrealy forces were poised to capture both Cairo and Damascus at the end of that war.

It was a clear Isrealy victory

agaugust:


South African Mirage F1 pilots ran away from the air when Cuban MiG-23 pilots appeared. The MiG-23 was superior in engine performance.
Victory for Russian made jets over NATO made jets.

Who said the Mirage F1 ran away?

Evidence has been posted that they were flying sorties until the end of the war.

Why do you keep telling lies?

Henry120:



Why don't you tell us the number/ generations of Russian Tanks we've seen?

Well you didnt know that there were over 20 types of 3rd gen MBT

agaugust:


Sudan cannot build anything like a Nigerian Gulma drone.

Many Sudanese stuff are ancient, their only strength is the air force....because they have no navy to spend money on, their air force got much focus with government spending.

Look at many African countries that have better jets than Nigeria, either they have no navy to spend money on because they are land-locked, or they neglect their navy and spend double on their air forces, e.g :

Ethiopia
Eritrea
Sudan
Angola
Uganda

If Nigeria too diverted navy funds to our air force, we will be flying 100 units of Su-30 MKI 4th gen jets since 10 years ago
.

South Africa has a better airforce and navy than Nigeria

Gulma drone is a direct copy of an isrealy drone

agaugust:


Today, Libya has nothing to match Nigerian Roland.

South Africa has an air defence worse than Libya, your SANDF parades Starstreak toy-like anti-aircraft missile with 1km max ceiling, just manages to fly past the roof of my house Even Togo Republic will whitewash South African army with Alpha jets
.

Because we are building a domestic air defence system composed of VSHORAD, CRAM and tactical air defence missiles.


We are in no rush and the program is developing nicely

Henry120:


The South-Africans are very delusional.

Massive mass media P.R by the American and british controlled media. The Americans have Fox, Time warner, and the Discovery channel churning out endless supplies of American MIC sponsored propaganda, and their news networks further pushing this utter lie. It sticks. The Americans have taking Joseph Goebbels art to a whole new level, and sure it works.

We've been at the receiving end of this propaganda on many occasions, with our most recent been the Nigerian offensive that has completely routed boko-haram. We saw the stages with which it played out.


There's no evidence American/ European systems are better that of Russians. Bringing in a coalition to defeat iraqi forces in the first gulf war isn't a sign or superiority, neither is the yum kippur war or the six day war.

The greatest tank ever built in human history is a Russian tank, the T-34.

The idea that the Americans trounced Russians system fielded by Arabs as been definitive evidence is just a farce. There's a difference between a Russian built tank, fielded by the Russian Army, as against a Russian built system fielded by foreigners. The T-34 proves this.

Outcomes would be very different if Ukrainians armed with American Abrams tanks square off against Russian Army T-90's/ T-72B3's . It would be a decisive victory for the Russian Army.


Look at the absurdity of the F-35.

It is supposed to be an affordable fighter but it costs $135 million a pop for a unit, and requires a large ground crew to attend to it.

It is supposed to be a CAS for marines but you'll be lucky to get over 1 hour 30 mins of loiter from the fighter.

It is supposed to be stealth but an obsolete yougoslav ADS shot down a top of the range "lockheed martin" F117.

It promises stealth, yet the fighter can be detected in radars built in 1942.

It promises stealth, but can't keep it's supposed stealth paint scheme on.

It is a dog fighter, that cannot dog fight because of it short wing.

It's payload is poor!


* The Norwegians were bullied and the swedes threatened into choosing the F-35 over the Gripen NG. The U.S state department threatened to withhold vital parts from Saab(sweden) in that fighter contest.



In all Propaganda and bullying are America's biggest tools.

Someone has no idea what they are talking about.

- Unit price will decrease dramatically with production. Unit cost is currently high because only 100 have been made. Ever heard of economies of scale?

- Actually, its designed to be VTOL for the Marines. USAF/USN variants takes up ground strike and air-superiority roles, loiter time is irrelevant when you can re-fuel in the air

- even when it was shot down, the F117 was no where near top of the range and is based on technology from the 1970s. I have no idea how you can draw parrallels between it and a completely different jet.

- Yes, but it is incredibly difficult to target with modern systems. Its not a stealth fighter, its a stealthy fighter

- Nonsense

- Short wing? which variant? The USN VTOL variant which is the smallest so it can operate off LHD's? The USAF variant designed for super-cruise? or the USN variant with extended wings

- The F-35 has 11 hard points and can carry about three times (18,000lbs) the stores load of that of an F-16.

So, well done. You have proven that you have no idea what you are talking about.

As usual.

Henry120:


There's no evidence American/ European systems are better that of Russians. Bringing in a coalition to defeat iraqi forces in the first gulf war isn't a sign or superiority, neither is the yum kippur war or the six day war.

The greatest tank ever built in human history is a Russian tank, the T-34.

The idea that the Americans trounced Russians system fielded by Arabs as been definitive evidence is just a farce. There's a difference between a Russian built tank, fielded by the Russian Army, as against a Russian built system fielded by foreigners. The T-34 proves this.

Every time Western Equipment has faced Eastern Equipment the Western Equipment has completely and utterly anniahlated to Eastern Equipment - this is fact, pure and simple.

Now, onto the T-34.

It was the best tank of the war for just one single year - 1941.

It was then superceded by multiple tanks by the end of the war, the Panzer MkIV (Ausf. J and Ausf. H), The British Comet, the M4 Sherman Firefly and the Russian T-44 were all superior in every single way.

Thats right - it was not even the best Russian tank of the war[/b]

And that is just medium tanks... lets not even talk about Panthers and Tigers or M26 Pershing.

The T-34 was a steaming pile of sh1t, it had terrible optics, its engine was renowned for breaking down, the crew had to traverse the turret by hand, its ergonomics were abysmal, most didnt even have radio's.

Its only saving grace was that the Russians could churn out 2000 per month... which was essential for them... [b]because the T-34 loss to kill ratio was 3:1. Thats right, 3 T-34's were lost for every single German tank destroyed in actual combat.

This superiority stands today as well.

Despite multiple wars, no single Abrams has even been penetrated, no single Abrams crewman has been killed, the Chally2 was only penetrated once - by a top the of line RPG and when that RPG hit THE UNDERSIDE of the vehical - and the crewman lost a toe and continued fighting anyway. After that the British added another 20 tonnes of armor just for fun.

Thats right, with 2 major wars under their belts, as well as 11 years of COIN operations, the M1A2 has never been penetrated, and the Chally 2 has never been destroyed by hostile fire.

Also, guess which tank holds the world record for the longest range tank kill.

On the otherhand, every single war the T-72 or T-80 has been involved in has seen them being obliterated left right and center.

Russian tanks as a rule are completely inferior to their Western counterparts.

Henry120:


We are launching another Nigerian built satellite into orbit this year, and a home built and launched one in 2018. So, it's coming on fine.

Sudan has always had a more significant industry than Nigeria. Their industry has to support their sanctions hit military.

Everything they are making have already been designed by Nigeria along time ago. We are doing just very fine actually.

Nigeria has a more innovative industry.

Tears!!!

Nigeria is not making missiles and self propelled howitzers!

No Innovation in Nigeria!

Henry120:


Your Half-french obsolete Helicopter has only a decade or 15 years to go......... And off course the program would be killed off, what's the possible replacement for the Half-french your confused government is looking at?

Some of your country men seem to favour HAL's LCH.

Sour grapes!

Rooivalk MK 2

Instead of thinking about our helicopter replacement, you should think or worry about your rebel defence acquisition system. You continue going to backyards and bins, you replace a hind with second hand hind



In fact you should know by now that SA with its strong defence acquisition system will get a better deal if we need more or new attack helicopters.

lezz:
you mean like Angola has become your military's refrence point.

who says SA didnt learn anything in 1978

Come! Let's go into detail.

agaugust:


Nigerian air defence system today beats that of Libya, the Libyan military is too weak for a conventional war after years of arms embargo, internal sabotage by civil war, and neglect of maintenance.

If need to destroy a Rafale jet, Russian S-400 system will do it.

Beats Libyan air defence system how? Go into detail augubugubu.

Your air defence system is made up of obsolete 70s missiles and 80s design guns.

You think a pilot will just wake up and take off to attack an air defence system? The Rafale can bridge or destroy the S-400

agaugust:


Sudan cannot build anything like a Nigerian Gulma drone.

Many Sudanese stuff are ancient, their only strength is the air force....because they have no navy to spend money on, their air force got much focus with government spending.

Look at many African countries that have better jets than Nigeria, either they have no navy to spend money on because they are land-locked, or they neglect their navy and spend double on their air forces, e.g :

Ethiopia
Eritrea
Sudan
Angola
Uganda

If Nigeria too diverted navy funds to our air force, we will be flying 100 units of Su-30 MKI 4th gen jets since 10 years ago
.

. Your Gulma is nothing impressive.

Sudan builds MANPADS and self propelled howitzers!

Your navy? You mean the sea arm of your armed forces which funnily enough can't wage a conventional war at sea.

An unbalanced navy when comparing surface and sub-surface.

So Uganda has a better air force than Nigeria? Scared of the RBK-250-275 cluster bombs?

agaugust:


Today, Libya has nothing to match Nigerian Roland.

South Africa has an air defence worse than Libya, your SANDF parades Starstreak toy-like anti-aircraft missile with 1km max ceiling, just manages to fly past the roof of my house Even Togo Republic will whitewash South African army with Alpha jets
.

Should we put your 70s Roland missile in obsolete class augubugubu?

patches689:


South Africa has a better airforce and navy than Nigeria

Gulma drone is a direct copy of an isrealy drone

With 5 types of radars!

MikeCZAR:
Come! Let's go into detail.

yes details. where the SANDF was besieged by angolan troops.

where teenage cuba pilots chased you out of the skies and the SANDF and its merceneries were whooped by little angola.

YOUR ANC GOVERNMENT HAS VISITED ANGOLA SOMETIME THIS YEAR IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

lezz:
yes details. where the SANDF was besieged by angolan troops.

where teenage cuba pilots chased you out of the skies and the SANDF and its merceneries were whooped by little angola.

YOUR ANC GOVERNMENT HAS VISITED ANGOLA SOMETIME THIS YEAR IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

Why were they besieged?

The SANDF was formed in 1994.

SADF conscripts were teenagers average age being 17-22.

You're like Evarns!

MikeCZAR:
Sour grapes!

Rooivalk MK 2

Instead of thinking about our helicopter replacement, you should think or worry about your rebel defence acquisition system. You continue going to backyards and bins, you replace a hind with second hand hind



In fact you should know by now that SA with its strong defence acquisition system will get a better deal if we need more or new attack helicopters.

Soweto r3tard!

SAAF isn't getting anymore Half-french Helicopters, if you were, you won't have only 10 in active service.


When Nigerian went to the market to purchase Helicopters, Africa felt it. 40 attack/Transport Helicopters in all, excluding up-grades done to NAF super-Puma's.

-12 MI-35M and 12 MI-171sh Terminator

-At least 8 MI-24v Helicopters and MI-17 from ukraine

-12 MI-35p from belarus.

-At leat 8 Gazelle Helicopters for Army Air corps.

* drones and additional survelliance planes not added.

* watch this space, the Nigerian Army Air corps is seriously considering the TAI T129 ATAK Helicopter.


This is how we ball bi.tch !!


Yes, I know how the SAAF spent money on jets it cannot afford, it cannot fly and cannot keep in the air. 9 pilots in 16 years isn't actually a stellar record.

We also know how your project biro is about to celebrate it's 23 birthday as a colossal pipe dream. TBH, i'm genuinely concerned.


So, white boy, what is going to replace your half-french helicopter?

MikeCZAR:
Tears!!!

Nigeria is not making missiles and self propelled howitzers!

No Innovation in Nigeria!

We are currently designing our satellites, UAVs and propulsion systems.


Anybody can strap a D-30 to the back of a kamaz 6x6, if this is what you call innovation, then you are actually more r3tarded than actually thought.

Nigeria is the most innovative country in Africa. Don't worry, you would soon be ordering OPV's, corvettes and Frigates from Nigeria.

lezz:
yes details. where the SANDF was besieged by angolan troops.

where teenage cuba pilots chased you out of the skies and the SANDF and its merceneries were whooped by little angola.

YOUR ANC GOVERNMENT HAS VISITED ANGOLA SOMETIME THIS YEAR IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

When were our men beseiged?

When were our pilots chased out of the skies?

In which battle where we whooped?

Henry120:


We are currently designing our satellites, UAVs and propulsion systems.


Anybody can strap a D-30 to the back of a kamaz 6x6, if this is what you call innovation, then you are actually more r3tarded than actually thought.

Nigeria is the most innovative country in Africa. Don't worry, you would soon be ordering OPV's, corvettes and Frigates from Nigeria.

"Don't worry, you would soon be ordering OPV's, corvettes and Frigates from Nigeria"
Naa.....We will start building our own in the next few months.

Henry120:


Soweto r3tard!

SAAF isn't getting anymore Half-french Helicopters, if you were, you won't have only 10 in active service.


When Nigerian went to the market to purchase Helicopters, Africa felt it. 40 attack/Transport Helicopters in all, excluding up-grades done to NAF super-Puma's.

-12 MI-35M and 12 MI-171sh Terminator

-At least 8 MI-24v Helicopters and MI-17 from ukraine

-12 MI-35p from belarus.

-At leat 8 Gazelle Helicopters for Army Air corps.

* drones and additional survelliance planes not added.

* watch this space, the Nigerian Army Air corps is seriously considering the TAI T129 ATAK Helicopter.


This is how we ball bi.tch !!


Yes, I know how the SAAF spent money on jets it cannot afford, it cannot fly and cannot keep in the air. 9 pilots in 16 years isn't actually a stellar record.

We also know how your project biro is about to celebrate it's 23 birthday as a colossal pipe dream. TBH, i'm genuinely concerned.


So, white boy, what is going to replace your half-french helicopter?

And yet the facts are this:

1. Restarting Rooivalk production is being seriously considered

2. SAAF has a minimum of 14 Gripen pilots. We are also outfitting the Gripen with a suite of indigenous weapons systems

3. Project Biro is in its closing stages. Tenders for 3 frigate sized OPVs will be announced after june 30

4. Nigeria orderd less than 40 helicopters - the majority of which are based on an utterly obsolete system that the Russians are in the process of retiring

So, little black boy - how does it feel having a 3rd world airforce composed of new helicopters that manage to be obsolete?

You wanna talk about how we roll?

You wanted new jets - you got 12 ancient F7s

We bough over 50 - including one of the most advanced fighters in Africa

You wanted to grow your heli-lift and you get less than 40 obsolete platforms

We wanted to do the same - we upgrade and purchase over 90 helicopters

You wanted to grow your navy - you got some ancient donated cutters and 2 cheap gunboats

We wanted to grow our navy - we got 4 of the most advances frigates in africa (at that time) and 3 submarines

You wanted to grow your armies armored capabilities - you get (a maximum of) 56 obsolete t72s and 6 or so obsolete btr-4s

We got 236 of the most advaced IFVs in Africa

You are nothing compared to us, never have been and never will be. You are simply too poor.

Henry120:


We are currently designing our satellites, UAVs and propulsion systems.


Anybody can strap a D-30 to the back of a kamaz 6x6, if this is what you call innovation, then you are actually more r3tarded than actually thought.

Nigeria is the most innovative country in Africa. Don't worry, you would soon be ordering OPV's, corvettes and Frigates from Nigeria.

If you are so innovative why arent you able to strap a d30 onto a truck?

Nigeria is decades behind south africa by any standard of innovation

lezz:
yes details. where the SANDF was besieged by angolan troops.

where teenage cuba pilots chased you out of the skies and the SANDF and its merceneries were whooped by little angola.

YOUR ANC GOVERNMENT HAS VISITED ANGOLA SOMETIME THIS YEAR IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

Are you getting this bull sh1t from that forum of yours?

MikeCZAR:
Why were they besieged?

The SANDF was formed in 1994.

SADF conscripts were teenagers average age being 17-22.

You're like Evarns!

of course Mandela formed the sandf with zulu freedom fighters, reason for your shotage of skilled men.

ALRIGHT, whatever name your military was known by , SANDF, SADF or ZULU RESISTANCE ARMY, they were humiliated in angola with Botha scurrying to boost the morals of men who were being taught a bitter lesson by teenage Cuban pilots and little Angola.

lezz:
of course Mandela formed the sandf with zulu freedom fighters, reason for your shotage of skilled men.

ALRIGHT, whatever name your military was known by , SANDF, SADF or ZULU RESISTANCE ARMY, they were humiliated in angola with Botha scurrying to boost the morals of men who were being taught a bitter lesson by teenage Cuban pilots and little Angola.

How about some citations to back that up?

All freedom fighters intergrated into the SADF were retrained from scratch by members fo the former SADF

patches689:


How about some citations to back that up?

All freedom fighters intergrated into the SADF were retrained from scratch by members fo the former SADF

And here comes the citation destitute.

your have successfully killed the relevance of source;.. and since you have the reputation of disputing valid links and sources with lame tact, you shall have no more source for the time being.

HERE ARE THE FACTS: The SANDF is recruiting now and the quest for skilled personell is high on their list.


the SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT WENT TO ANGOLA somewhere this year AND ACKNOLEDGED ANGOLA'S HEROICS IN THE WAY.

you can consult your government archives now

NaijaPikinGidi:


Ignorance and desperation UNLIMITED.

We are in charge of the Operations! No foreign fighters in Nigeria. I speak from the NE theatre ... you drivel based on unverified, false stories written by enemies of Nigeria in the media.

NA rolling ... Ukeme trolling!

which NE theatre? how did u access nairaland from there when communication has been cut off. mumu!!! u can only do that when u are in maidugri!!!! Young man, i never said that SANDF is more superior to NA mind u. am only quoting as at NA present situation the govt left it... it can't challenge other african power house for now... rough but simple truth!