jln115:
Dedicated to @Agaugust

SANDF Air Defence:

Not many Thales Page radars for the SANDF's LML Starstreak battery are available on the web.

agaugust:


Cuban MiG-23 shot down South African Mirage F1, and SAAF failed to down a single MiG-23.

Cuba won the air war, South Africa lost and resorted to air sorties that does NOT involve air to air combat.....cowards
.

Won what?

SAAF set in their jets standby during combat, when enemy fighters were detected they'd take off to intercept them.

Deep inside Angola.

MikeCZAR:
Won what?

SAAF set in their jets standby during combat, when enemy fighters were detected they'd take off to intercept them.

Deep inside Angola.

Nice comedy strip you wrote there, good for a Tv show

agaugust:


Nice comedy strip you wrote there, good for a Tv show

Come jungle dweller!

Bring facts and let's have a constructive debate.

MikeCZAR:


Doctrine and training > Experience.

SAAF actually lacks both, no aviation fuel to even train.....All Gripen pilots fall short of standard qualification hours.

Means South Africa has NO SINGLE qualified jet fighter pilot today.

SAAF cannot deploy in any air combat role at all.

The SAAF is only qualified to fly V.IP. services, it's now the military version of South African airways
.

MikeCZAR:
2018 SAN receives a new OPVs!

2018 Nigeria receives new Submarines
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agaugust:


SAAF actually lacks both, no aviation fuel to even train.....All Gripen pilots fall short of standard qualification hours.

Means South Africa has NO SINGLE qualified jet fighter pilot today.

SAAF cannot deploy in any air combat role at all.

The SAAF is only qualified to fly V.IP. services, it's now the military version of South African airways
.

Flight hours?

The Rooivalk flying under the UN in the DRC has seen a lot of action and will be seeing more these coming weeks.

agaugust:

2018 Nigeria receives new Submarines .

#ShowUsTheContract.

jln115:

Dude the Umkhonto IR has a 8km ceiling, so I don't know were you get your 1km from.

Land based Umkhonto is NOT in service with SANDF.

Starstreak is the ONLY missile for SANDF air defence and it's fvcking maximum ceiling is just 1 km, like my house roof top.

Get your facts right before you post stuff here, after you trap yourself with rubbish you start looking for a way out. Think before you post comments here okay? Olodo.

jln115:
Dedicated to @Agaugust

SANDF Air Defence:

Stop posting photos and data of weapons and equipment that are NOT in service with SANDF.

Makes you look like a foolish white man that dropped out of secondary school and competing with Somalian immigrants in Durban for survival
.

agaugust:


Land based Umkhonto is NOT in service with SANDF.

Starstreak is the ONLY missile for SANDF air defence and it's fvcking maximum ceiling is just 1 km, like my house roof top.

Get your facts right before you post stuff here, after you trap yourself with rubbish you start looking for a way out. Think before you post comments here okay? Olodo.

. Low level air defence.

Nigerian pilots get their bal.ls shot off by BH small arms fire!

Missiles will be too much for your air force to deal with.

MikeCZAR:
Let's go into detail.

SADF conscripts were in their early 20s.

Cuba sent 20 000 plus troops to Angola to deal with a force 3800 SADF and SWATF men.

Who's today going after SA trained soldiers to help them?

SADF had 4,000 troops including 1,000 foreign white-mercenaries and over 60,000 UNITA troops fighting and saving South Africa from the claws of Cuban teenagers army in Angola
.

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria has no deployable air defence system.

The Nigerian military can't even put an air defence umbrella over land the size of Borno state. And maintain air space and traffic control.

Nigeria has 5 units of brand new 2010 versions of Thales moveable radar with 500 km range each, along with other radars.


https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/content/nigerias-president-commissions-tracon-system-delivered-thales

Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria (TRACON)
•The Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria Project (TRACON) was conceived as a key requirement for the modernization of Nigerian Air Traffic Management Infrastructure. It has automated Approach Area Control components as follows:
•Primary Surveillance Radar (PSR )STAR 2000
•Monopulse Secondary Surveillance Radar (MSSR) RSM 970S
•Integrated Flight and Radar Data processing Eurocat C and other associated equipment at the four major airports – Lagos, Kano, Abuja and Port Harcourt as well as stand-alone MSSR RSM – 970 at five other locations: Maiduguri, Ilorin, Numan, Obubra and Talata-Mafara




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agaugust:


SADF had 4,000 troops including 1,000 foreign white-mercenaries and over 60,000 UNITA troops fighting and saving South Africa from the claws of Cuban teenagers army in Angola
.

3800 SADF and SWATF men no mercenaries during Op Modular.

agaugust:


Nigeria has 5 units of brand new 2010 versions of Thales moveable radar with 500 km range each, along with many other radars.

Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria (TRACON)
•The Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria Project (TRACON) was conceived as a key requirement for the modernization of Nigerian Air Traffic Management Infrastructure. It has automated Approach Area Control components as follows:
•Primary Surveillance Radar (PSR )STAR 2000
•Monopulse Secondary Surveillance Radar (MSSR) RSM 970S
•Integrated Flight and Radar Data processing Eurocat C and other associated equipment at the four major airports – Lagos, Kano, Abuja and Port Harcourt as well as stand-alone MSSR RSM – 970 at five other locations: Maiduguri, Ilorin, Numan, Obubra and Talata-Mafara



https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/content/nigerias-president-commissions-tracon-system-delivered-thales

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The Nigerian military can't put an air defence umbrella over an the area the size of borno state!

Stop showing us civilian airport radars!

MikeCZAR:
The Nigerian military can't put an air defence umbrella over an the area the size of borno state!

Stop showing us civilian airport radars!

You challenged Nigerian air traffic control and I showed you better facilities than those in South Africa, you asked for it.

South African military with 5 km range and 1km ceiling missile CANNOT put an air defence umbrella over one quater of Soweto town alone.

Your 500 km range radars are also purchased as civilian in the 1980s according to proven reports.

Continue your night time comedy.....I have someone to laugh at before I sleep

MikeCZAR:
2018 SAN receives a new OPVs!

You are getting nothing, your Project biro is a colossal pipe dream.

MikeCZAR:
Sudan makes missiles!

And yes that's innovation soon you'll see a Sudanese howitzer.

China is building the OPV were hoping to wield machine gun mounts to

Watch the most powerful country in Africa builds its OPVs and IPVs.

We make satellites, drones, Trainer aircrafts , Donier DO-228, EOD disposal robots, hydraulic systems for our MI-35's, ships, vessels, catamarans, boats, Electrolyte for our hinds and Agusta, Agusta A109 parts, Rocket pods, military trucks, MRAPs, Propulsion systems, missile development systems, Night vision googles, ballistics vest etc etc


I can strap a D-30 to a truck in my back-yard, there is no innovation there.

Nigeria is completing 50% of the second OPV. A ship's hull doesn't constitute 100% of the ship.

The Navy signed another shipbuilding patnership contract with another shipbuilding firm.

Until the OPV's get delivered, you are getting nothing.

MikeCZAR:
Wipe your tears mate!

Second hand backyard from the metal yard!

Relax and watch how real navies acquire new ships.

Surprise headed your way

Nope state of the art Helicopters, light years ahead of your obsolete half-french Helicopters.


You are getting nothing.

MduZA:

lol...

Lol....... At the mental handicap of South-Africans.

agaugust:
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Land based Umkhonto is NOT in service with SANDF.

Starstreak is the ONLY missile for SANDF air defence and it's fvcking maximum ceiling is just 1 km, like my house roof top.

Get your facts right before you post stuff here, after you trap yourself with rubbish you start looking for a way out. Think before you post comments here okay? Olodo.



Stop posting photos and data of weapons and equipment that are NOT in service with SANDF.

Makes you look like a foolish white man that dropped out of secondary school and competing with Somalian immigrants in Durban for survival
.

"Land based Umkhonto is NOT in service with SANDF."
It will be fully operational and in service in the next 1-2 years.


"Starstreak is the ONLY missile for SANDF air defence and it's fvcking maximum ceiling is just 1 km, like my house roof top."
Yes and?What do you think VSHORAD stands for?

"Get your facts right before you post stuff here, after you trap yourself with rubbish you start looking for a way out. Think before you post comments here okay? Olodo."
Maby you should start following your own advice.

"Stop posting photos and data of weapons and equipment that are NOT in service with SANDF"
All vehicles are in service with the SANDF, look at the number plating.

"Makes you look like a foolish white man that dropped out of secondary school and competing with Somalian immigrants in Durban for survival"
Only fool here is you!

Henry120:


You are getting nothing, your Project biro is a colossal pipe dream.

Jap, so was:
Project Hoefyster
A-Darter Missile
GBADS
ect
ect
ect

agaugust:


You challenged Nigerian air traffic control and I showed you better facilities than those in South Africa, you asked for it.

South African military with 5 km range and 1km ceiling missile CANNOT put an air defence umbrella over one quater of Soweto town alone.

Your 500 km range radars are also purchased as civilian in the 1980s according to proven reports.

Continue your night time comedy.....I have someone to laugh at before I sleep

why you hurt?

We are talking military stuff here take. Your air port radar somewhere.

NAF has no deployable air control and traffic systems from sensors to C2.

The Starstreak is a low level air defence system.

Henry120:


You are getting nothing, your Project biro is a colossal pipe dream.

I understand.

From your backyards purchases mentality it is difficult for you to comprehend how SA defence procurement system works.

Henry120:


We make satellites, drones, Trainer aircrafts , Donier DO-228, EOD disposal robots, hydraulic systems for our MI-35's, ships, vessels, catamarans, boats, Electrolyte for our hinds and Agusta, Agusta A109 parts, Rocket pods, military trucks, MRAPs, Propulsion systems, missile development systems, Night vision googles, ballistics vest etc etc


I can strap a D-30 to a truck in my back-yard, there is no innovation there.

Nigeria is completing 50% of the second OPV. A ship's hull doesn't constitute 100% of the ship.

The Navy signed another shipbuilding patnership contract with another shipbuilding firm.

Until the OPV's get delivered, you are getting nothing.

Sudan builds missiles, ahead of Nigeria.

China is building the whole the thing, maybe you'll get to mount machine guns.

Henry120:


Nope state of the art Helicopters, light years ahead of your obsolete half-french Helicopters.


You are getting nothing.

MORE BUTT HURT!

You mean second hinds?

Tough months filled with a lot of chest pains ahead for you Nigerians

Henry120:


Lol....... At the mental handicap of South-Africans.

Says the men who supports his country acquiring systems from companies who offer complete or total solutions and aren't the OEM(Original equipment manufacture).

Meaning the possibilities of them supporting the systems you acquire throughout their service life is low and unlikely.

Real silver back!

http://leadership.ng/news/431675/naf-plans-3-additional-forwarding-base-to-patrol-nigeria-airspace-amosu


NAF Plans 3 Additional Forwarding Base To Patrol Nigeria Airspace – Amosu
— May 7, 2015 5:58 pm | 0 Comments



The Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu, on Thursday said that the Nigerian Air Force would establish more forwarding base for effective patrol of the nation’s airspace.



Amosu made this known when he briefed newsmen as part of activities marking the Nigerian Air Force 51st Anniversary in Abuja.



According to him, the NAF is expecting three more additional platforms that will be fitted with forward ‘infarite radar’.



He also said that ‘’the good news about the radar is that they can equally operate in the night.



“We have already established some Forwarding Operation Bases (FOB) to complement the maritime end.



“We have one FOB in Badagry, one in Mubi already established and we are still going to construct additional bases in Muguno.



“It will help us to position tact helicopters in those locations for effective border patrols.



“The maritime area is very vital and most people don’t pay attention there because those equipment they could be smuggling in to fight in the North-East could essentially come from the maritime area.



“So, we need to see what is going on there. How do we derive funding for the nation? It has to do with port activities and we need to pay attention to the maritime area.’’



He said since his assumption of office, NAF had been able to acquire more platforms to support the counter terrorism operations.



“We will keep on agitating for technology as soon as the operation is concluded.



“My recommendation is that we must be progressive because we have competitive demand for the scarce resources we have,’’ Amosu said.



He said “my dream for the NAF is to have sufficient platforms located in strategic locations so that when there is a distress call, the NAF will be there in 20 minutes.



“When we show up in the 20 minutes the land forces… will marry up.



“The NAF is a good force to invest on and you invest not so huge but the results are enormous.’’



The Air Force chief said the NAF had embarked on elaborate training of its personnel and also ensured that their barracks were well secured.



The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that The Nigerian Air Force was formally established on April 18, 1964 with the passage of the Air Force Act 1964 by an Act of the parliament.



The Act stated that the ‘Nigerian Air Force shall be charged with the defence of the Federal Republic by air, and to give effect thereto, the personnel shall be trained in such duties as in the air as well as on the ground.’ (NAN)

ukemeramat:


@thiza... u need more than this(clean stream and kits) a make a good diver... wen it comes to the sea, NN has it. they are not even up to the amphibious hit men in the nigerian army. this guys up in those pix cant survive the gulf of guinea. so just base your arguement on your army, there you have more power..

An unbiased patriot.
Perhaps you could do a fair job of constricting your understandable verbal rebukes to a more secluded medium,But I must admit that it is quite rare to encounter people who are not distracted by misguided attacks against their ideology and personality.

agaugust:


2018 Nigeria receives new Submarines
.

Kind of small, don't you think? Is it remote control?

Henry120:


R3tard, T- 34, first generation
T-55 - T-72, second generation
Armata, 3rd generation.

T-34 1st gen
T-72 2nd gen
Leo2 3rd gen
K2/T-14/Merkava IV 3++ Gen

You know nothing about tanks

agaugust:


Sudan does not build anything electronically advanced, Nigeria is building satellites, we build robots, we build one of the best drones in Africa.

Nigerian navy has the biggest fleet in Africa after Egypt, and the only navy to ever build part of a modern stealth warship in Africa.

Nigerian navy has missile frigate and anti-submarine helicopters in reserve, not active because there is no need or threat.

South African navy has woken up to see that submarines are useless against the current threats existing in Africa, you now struggle to buy OPV when you are already broke.

Uganda has a better air force than South Africa, they have air to surface/anti-radar missiles, SAAF has NOTHING in the class of Uganda
.

Citation needed

Nigeria has Africas biggest fleet of speed-boats and patrol boats - no warships.

You cant hold naval vessels in permanent reserve - activation will take years.

South African navy is not a coast gaurd like Nigeria - SAN's primary duties are conducting naval warfare. Secondary duties are maritime patrol. South Africa is buying 3-4 brand new frigate sized OPV's... we would not do this if we were broke.

Uganda is not Nigeria... Uganda also does not have PGM's, Glide Bombs and stand-off munitions.

agaugust:


Cuban MiG-23 shot down South African Mirage F1, and SAAF failed to down a single MiG-23.

Cuba won the air war, South Africa lost and resorted to air sorties that does NOT involve air to air combat.....cowards
.

South African Air losses (whole war) <20
Cuban Air losses (whole war) >60

Yeah sure, we lost the air war

Again, who said we ran away? Answer the question