agaugust:


Citation needed
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Consult the archives

jln115:

"Land based Umkhonto is NOT in service with SANDF."
It will be fully operational and in service in the next 1-2 years.


"Starstreak is the ONLY missile for SANDF air defence and it's fvcking maximum ceiling is just 1 km, like my house roof top."
Yes and?What do you think VSHORAD stands for?

"Get your facts right before you post stuff here, after you trap yourself with rubbish you start looking for a way out. Think before you post comments here okay? Olodo."
Maby you should start following your own advice.

"Stop posting photos and data of weapons and equipment that are NOT in service with SANDF"
All vehicles are in service with the SANDF, look at the number plating.

"Makes you look like a foolish white man that dropped out of secondary school and competing with Somalian immigrants in Durban for survival"
Only fool here is you!

Nope, you are the fool who has admitted he is posting missiles that are not in service.

Come back in year 2020 when Unmkhonto land based version hopefully may be in service.

Stop posting weapons you don't have today when comparing current military capacity, use the common sense I know you do not have
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patches689:


Consult the archives

You have no proof. Nice surrender

patches689:


South African Air losses (whole war) <20
Cuban Air losses (whole war) >60

South African propaganda. Cuba disputes your fraudulent claims.

agaugust:


NAF has air to surface missiles, SAAF has none.

NAF has missile armed drones, SAAF has none.

NAF has ATR-42 battlefield surveillance, MPA, and ISTAR aircraft with radar range to search the battlefield over 300 km away, SAAF has none.

NAF has Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft for battlefield surveillance and ISTAR, ground radar range 80 km, SAAF has none.

NAF has over 60 assault/attack/armed transport/armoured airframe helicopters, SAAF has 12.

NAF has 170 air to air missiles for jet fighters, SAAF has 25 missiles

NAF has flown over 6,000 combat sorties in 6 months, SAAF has flown ZERO combat sorties in 20 years
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SAAF has PGM"s, Glide bombs and stand-off munitions. NAF has none. NAF can also only use Air-to-surface missiles from slow moving low flying drones.

SAAF has missile armed drones - Seeker400

ATR-42 does not have this radar range you claim. This has been proven. South Africa has the Gripen which can perform the same ISTAR duties and in a contested airspace (unlike Nigerian ATR42)

If you consider a SuperPuma with a machine-gun a assault/armed transport/armored airframe helicopter - then south africa has over 90

Nigeria has old generation AA missiles. South Africa is building its own advanced generation missiles - supply is theoretically unlimited.

SAAF also has advanced fighters, superior air-lift, better (and more) light fighters, a bigger helicopter to soldier ratio, more advanced radar and air-defence equipment, more advanced attack helicopters and an intergrated data-link.

agaugust:


Yet your Zulus accuse Somalians of taking away your jobs, you cannot innovate jobs for your own people

Since war ravaged Somalian refugees are ruling your local South African commerce, you must be very very retaaaaaaaarded creatures
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And yet - we are the most innovative country in Africa

patches689:


You cant hold naval vessels in permanent reserve - activation will take years.

Citation needed.

You think every country is dumb like South Africa that spent 7 years to change one submarine battery?
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agaugust:


Nigeria too is building it's military with new weapons seen arriving all over the place.

Today, SANDF has one of the worst air defence in Africa...1km max ceiling missile
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Nigeria is building nothing as advanced as the GBADS system.

When the last phase of the GBADS programe is completed the Uhmkonto will enter service. We also have the most advanced VSHORAD and CRAM systems in Africa.

When completed South Africa will have the most advanced GBADS system in Africa

jln115:

Kind of small, don't you think? Is it remote control?

Yes bra, it is

That's how our stealth OPV started too bra....it sails around the world today

patches689:


Nigeria is building nothing as advanced as the GBADS system.

When the last phase of the GBADS programe is completed the Uhmkonto will enter service. We also have the most advanced VSHORAD and CRAM systems in Africa.

When completed South Africa will have the most advanced GBADS system in Africa

South Africa too is NOT building GBADS.....Germans are doing it for you.

Today, SANDF has NO operational GBADS or CRAM, come back and lets talk about it in year 2020
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Henry120:


South-Africa is a basket case. Your mentally handicapped citizens are only concerned about killing somalis and zimbabweans.

A country where 5% of the population runs 90% of the economy. On the other hand, Nigeria runs a federation, with each state having an independent budget, able to generate it's own wealth, seperate from the Federal government.

The Nigerian economy is the largest in Africa, the most sophisticated, the most diversified economy in Africa. Nigerian companies dominate the African continent.

Nigeria is on path to become Africa's only super-power. We have an insurgency we have dealth considerably with. Turkey, Europe's 6th largest economy has been fighting an insurgency for 50 years and counting, India has the world's 4th largest military, but they've been fighting an insurgency for over 20 years, Spain only got reprieve after a political settlement with ETA, the Brits only came to a political settlement after 27years of fighting. The U.S, the world's only super-power has been engaged in insurgencies for over 20 years.

Nigeria with Africa's largest economy is the only politically and economically relevant country on the African continent.

No citations and emotive language

Your government is so broke you need to borrow money to pay peoples salaries - 80% of your revenue comes from oil.

Your country is a joke.

patches689:


And yet - we are the most innovative country in Africa

5,000 innovative whites and 45 million mentally d.eranged blacks and coloureds in Cape Colony = South Africa
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patches689:


SAAF has PGM"s, Glide bombs and stand-off munitions. NAF has none. NAF can also only use Air-to-surface missiles from slow moving low flying drones.

SAAF has missile armed drones - Seeker400

ATR-42 does not have this radar range you claim. This has been proven. South Africa has the Gripen which can perform the same ISTAR duties and in a contested airspace (unlike Nigerian ATR42)

If you consider a SuperPuma with a machine-gun a assault/armed transport/armored airframe helicopter - then south africa has over 90

Nigeria has old generation AA missiles. South Africa is building its own advanced generation missiles - supply is theoretically unlimited.

SAAF also has advanced fighters, superior air-lift, better (and more) light fighters, a bigger helicopter to soldier ratio, more advanced radar and air-defence equipment, more advanced attack helicopters and an intergrated data-link.

All you write above is thrash.

However, the most important thing is that SAAF is reduced to V.I.P. transport service....ZERO combat in 20 years
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agaugust:


Nope, you are the fool who has admitted he is posting missiles that are not in service.

Come back in year 2020 when Unmkhonto land based version hopefully may be in service.

Stop posting weapons you don't have today when comparing current military capacity, use the common sense I know you do not have
.

Dude you have been posting weapon systems that will never even be in service with the Nigerian army, at least the weapon systems I posted, there are at least 1 unit in service with the SANDF and will be fully operational in the next 1-2 years.

agaugust:


All you write above is thrash.

However, the most important thing is that SAAF is reduced to V.I.P. transport service....ZERO combat in 20 years
.

Why?.....Is it Because your inferior intellect says so?

agaugust:


Yes bra

Cool... so when are you getting real ones, and not toys?

agaugust:


South Africa too is NOT building GBADS.....Germans are doing it for you.

Today, SANDF has NO operational GBADS or CRAM, come back and lets talk about it in year 2020
.

Yeah - problem is we are.

CRAM project is underway right now - conpletion 2016 or 2017

Cry more faggit

agaugust:


All you write above is thrash.

However, the most important thing is that SAAF is reduced to V.I.P. transport service....ZERO combat in 20 years
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No comback = cheap insults

Your airforce is a chairforce

MikeCZAR:


Sudan makes missiles!

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Can you show us the Sudanese made missile?
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agaugust:


SAAF actually lacks both, no aviation fuel to even train.....All Gripen pilots fall short of standard qualification hours.

Means South Africa has NO SINGLE qualified jet fighter pilot today.

SAAF cannot deploy in any air combat role at all.

The SAAF is only qualified to fly V.IP. services, it's now the military version of South African airways
.

Ok - cool story.

Problem:
22000 hours of air time budgeted for
14 gripen pilots (minimum)
Gripen flew over 800 hours in one year alone

These are facts. Not opinion.

agaugust:


2018 Nigeria receives new Submarines
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Hahahahah

Good one, i havent laughed like that in a while

patches689:


Your airforce is a chairforce

That chair must be in the air....NAF flew 6,000 combat sorties in 6 months.....SAAF flew ZERO combat sortie in 20 years, and chose to fly V.I.P transport instead....SAAF died 20 years ago
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jln115:

Dude you have been posting weapon systems that will never even be in service with the Nigerian army, at least the weapon systems I posted, there are at least 1 unit in service with the SANDF and will be fully operational in the next 1-2 years.

SANDF has NO SINGLE Umkhonto ground based missile in service.

CASE CLOSED

agaugust:


Land based Umkhonto is NOT in service with SANDF.

Starstreak is the ONLY missile for SANDF air defence and it's fvcking maximum ceiling is just 1 km, like my house roof top.

Get your facts right before you post stuff here, after you trap yourself with rubbish you start looking for a way out. Think before you post comments here okay? Olodo.



Stop posting photos and data of weapons and equipment that are NOT in service with SANDF.

Makes you look like a foolish white man that dropped out of secondary school and competing with Somalian immigrants in Durban for survival
.

GBADS programe is well documented.

If you think saying a MANPAD has a max ceiling of 1km is an insult then:
1. You dont understand what a MANPADs role is
2. You have no idea how a GBADS system works

agaugust:


Nigeria has 5 units of brand new 2010 versions of Thales moveable radar with 500 km range each, along with other radars.


https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/content/nigerias-president-commissions-tracon-system-delivered-thales

Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria (TRACON)
•The Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria Project (TRACON) was conceived as a key requirement for the modernization of Nigerian Air Traffic Management Infrastructure. It has automated Approach Area Control components as follows:
•Primary Surveillance Radar (PSR )STAR 2000
•Monopulse Secondary Surveillance Radar (MSSR) RSM 970S
•Integrated Flight and Radar Data processing Eurocat C and other associated equipment at the four major airports – Lagos, Kano, Abuja and Port Harcourt as well as stand-alone MSSR RSM – 970 at five other locations: Maiduguri, Ilorin, Numan, Obubra and Talata-Mafara




.

Hahahah

Civilian equipment mate - fixed position civilian equipemnt

patches689:


No citations and emotive language

Your government is so broke you need to borrow money to pay peoples salaries - 80% of your revenue comes from oil.

Your country is a joke.

South Africa has 6 times more debt than Nigeria....Southie foreign debt alone is $40 billion, your next generation will keep paying loan interest
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agaugust:


You challenged Nigerian air traffic control and I showed you better facilities than those in South Africa, you asked for it.

South African military with 5 km range and 1km ceiling missile CANNOT put an air defence umbrella over one quater of Soweto town alone.

Your 500 km range radars are also purchased as civilian in the 1980s according to proven reports.

Continue your night time comedy.....I have someone to laugh at before I sleep

He is getting desperate now

Henry120:


We make satellites, drones, Trainer aircrafts , Donier DO-228, EOD disposal robots, hydraulic systems for our MI-35's, ships, vessels, catamarans, boats, Electrolyte for our hinds and Agusta, Agusta A109 parts, Rocket pods, military trucks, MRAPs, Propulsion systems, missile development systems, Night vision googles, ballistics vest etc etc


I can strap a D-30 to a truck in my back-yard, there is no innovation there.

Nigeria is completing 50% of the second OPV. A ship's hull doesn't constitute 100% of the ship.

The Navy signed another shipbuilding patnership contract with another shipbuilding firm.

Until the OPV's get delivered, you are getting nothing.

You hear that guys?

We are getting nothing because Henry120 says so!!

Dude, you dont make 2/3 of the stuff you have listed.

Henry120:


Nope state of the art Helicopters, light years ahead of your obsolete half-french Helicopters.


You are getting nothing.

How is it state of the art?

How is it better than the Rooivalk?

Yes we are - deal brah, just deal.

patches689:



Hahahah

Civilian equipment mate - fixed position civilian equipemnt

@MikeCAR asked for air traffic control, not military radar, he got that surprise answer, it was spot on....on target
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agaugust:


You have no proof. Nice surrender

Do you have proof of any of your claims?

agaugust:


South African propaganda. Cuba disputes your fraudulent claims.

Whatever you need to tell yourself