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Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by disloman(m): 2:32pm On May 10, 2015 |
mentorandfriend:God bless u n continually directing ur path to greatness.We Christians still av a lot to do. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Nobody: 2:36pm On May 10, 2015 |
sonOfLucifer:Could you please put up your picture on your profile page. I've never been this eager to see someone's face on NL. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Normosa(m): 2:36pm On May 10, 2015 |
He is right to a very large extent! |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by MizTyna(f): 2:40pm On May 10, 2015 |
epelumi42: Religion/belief or lack of it is a very personal thing. While I'm not under obligation to let you know my stand,suggesting i'm doing this to standout is quite insulting and myopic. Lots of people out there dont believe in God or are agnostic at best,and you'll be surprised they exist everywhere even in the churches. So what is my standing out about or for? Like i tell my 'christian' friends,dont question my belief or lack of,i dont question yours. As for being free,i dont know exactly what you think i wanna be free to do without 'spiritual influences',i dont even wanna know what you mean by the spiritual influence,but i'm a free person all the same. Cheers! |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by epelumi42(m): 2:43pm On May 10, 2015 |
MizTyna:... ... You do not understand my point. I drew no conclusions. I asked if your choice was one of the three choices! |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Normosa(m): 2:46pm On May 10, 2015 |
disloman: You know you are not correct right? permit me to shed a few corrections to your corrections. 1. The upper room was not a church but where the disciples stayed in obedience to the Lord before they were endued with power from on high. 2. The men that carried ananias and saphirra were not ushers (always say what the bible says as it is said). 3. 3 Jn2 was not a prayer, a promise but a wish (greeting) by Apostle john. just as you would wish someone safe journey whwn travelling ( look at the words you posted in bold letters.. it starts with I WISH.... 4. God is not a father christmas; father christmas takes your money (ticket) and gives you a gift. god demands obedience from us all and punishes disobedience. 5. You kept highlightin Shiloh and Cannanland as proof of Christianity in Nigeria, well I'll leave that to you. so that you know almost every corrupt public official in this country has/is affiliated in one way or the other to these places yet they steal billions....go figure. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by MizTyna(f): 2:46pm On May 10, 2015 |
Mopolchi: Key word 'tending towards atheism' As for the book,i havent. But i'll love to. Can i get it online or something? |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Mopolchi: 3:01pm On May 10, 2015 |
MizTyna:Before you end up in atheism, get that work of Thomas Aquinas online and read. Here is a summary of the work: These 5 arguments are known as the Quinque Viae , which is Latin for The Five Ways, which was proposed by St. Thomas Aquinas. St. Thomas wrote an extensive amount of texts which can still be purchased in bookstores and/ or online. I'm not going to boggle all of you with seemingly endless paragraphs; I will condense these ideas into short, simple, logical syllogisms. The First Way "The Argument from Motion" Nothing can move itself. For any object to move, something must move the object. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Therefore, If any object moves, then there must be a mover. St. Thomas called this Unmoved Mover "God." Why? Because God is eternal, from everlasting to everlasting; God has no beginning and no end. Why doesn't it make sense to humans? Because we're locked in a dimension called "time." The Second Way "Argument from Causation (Creation) and Existence" There exists things that were caused or created by other things. Nothing can be the cause of itself (or create itself). There can not be an endless string of things causing other things to exist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Therefore, there must be an uncaused first cause. St. Thomas is saying that everything has a beginning, and that beginning is God. The Third Way "Argument from Contingent and Necessary Objects" Contingent beings are caused (every contingent being depends on another being). Not every being can be contingent (there must be something that isn't dependent on anything else.) There must be a being which is necessary to cause contingent beings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Therefore, this necessary being is God. The Fourth Way "Argument from Degrees and Perfection" Qualities of things differ (everything in the universe has a different level of quality). There are many different levels of quality. There must be a perfect standard by which all such qualities are measured. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Therefore, these perfections are contained in God (perfection personified). Something in the universe might be perfect to a degree, but not to a perfect perfection. The Fifth Way "Argument from Intelligent Design" There is an observable universe and order in nature. Common sense (also known as judgment, by using the 5 senses) tells us that nature works in such a way. A person can conclude that everything was designed by an intelligent designer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------ Therefore, God is the Intelligent Designer of all physical laws of nature and order in the universe. http://jman1986.tripod.com/proof.html |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by biGPoppaSays(m): 3:04pm On May 10, 2015 |
reasons Why I don't go to church |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Bonapart(m): 3:06pm On May 10, 2015 |
Booyakasha:son, may God forgive you |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Mopolchi: 3:11pm On May 10, 2015 |
Booyakasha:Our limits are set by time. Science can't solve the question of death, the last time I checked. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Bonapart(m): 3:12pm On May 10, 2015 |
mentorandfriend:you're bless sir... May God continue to increase. May God continue to help us to stand out and do his will... As for etcetera abi na etc be he name, he forgot that part where JESUS ask us to remove the beam in our eyes in order to see clearly to remove the little dirt in our neighbours eyes.... #SHALLOM sir 1 Like |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by jcross19: 3:17pm On May 10, 2015 |
Today is sunday and we need things that will edify souls why all these trash mr or ms moderator . Can you do thesame on friday huh don't sound sentimental here . |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by fyneboi79(m): 3:29pm On May 10, 2015 |
sukkot:Thanks man. You are quite knowledgeable and I will stay in touch to learn more. Thanks |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Tattooboy: 3:36pm On May 10, 2015 |
Humanbeing1st:i know him as an artiste. He sang 'The Last Bus To Nowhere'. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by feycols(m): 3:36pm On May 10, 2015 |
the more people that understand this the more people we shall set free |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Tattooboy: 3:37pm On May 10, 2015 |
fyneboi79:bad boy. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Nobody: 3:41pm On May 10, 2015 |
dre11: That is true my brother, thank God I have Bible |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by disloman(m): 3:51pm On May 10, 2015 |
Normosa:U gave explanation according to ur exposure n orientation.Let mi ask u these questions 1:What is a church? 2:Where in d bible did Jesus gave d disciples where to stay so that they can receive Holy Ghost? 3:What is a prayer? |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by hamilton62(m): 3:55pm On May 10, 2015 |
dre11:The day you stop spoon feeding yourself and some gullibles who know nothing about church and Christianity, that's the day you'll be saved by the grace (though it's available already) then you'll make heaven yourself. What do you know about heaven if this be your knowledge about the church? Thanks. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by fyneboi79(m): 4:02pm On May 10, 2015 |
Tattooboy:And who are you |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by sukkot: 4:09pm On May 10, 2015 |
fyneboi79:no probs man. stay cool |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by larrybee2017(f): 4:12pm On May 10, 2015 |
All these write up pointing accusing fingers to men of God sometimes to me is insane. The world is a simple place to live in and that is why you have a choice. you may choice to or not to go to church,pay or not to pay your tithe,remain poor forever by eating from the trash can or enjoy what redemption has brought us which is untold riches. it is high time you talk about you. what aspect of our live as individual will make someone want to know Jesus. Believe it or not you will answer to you not your pastor when you get to heaven. will a pastor follow a prostitute to brothel to force her home all because he did not want her to go to hell? will he place a curse on members because they are sinnesr ? Neither you nor your pastor can change any man, he can only preach it and then pray for the Holy Spirit to quicken your understanding. How quick we are to judge when we are also leading people to hell by our words and action daily. No wonder you see a ritualist condemning pastor, a prostitute will also sit and write rubbish all in the name of being heard. If they are leading member to hell, where are you leading people you meet on a daily basis? The change we are talking about start with you and I. The bible is too complex,yet simple, to be interpreted with canal ideas. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Samzzy94(m): 5:12pm On May 10, 2015 |
mentorandfriend: U av saved me d time i would av used to disapprove d points listed by d Op 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by solreb: 7:04pm On May 10, 2015 |
mentorandfriend:Well done. points well ararticulated. A Christian that is not grounded may be discouraged and miss the mark. 1 Like |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by dsylvo(m): 7:32pm On May 10, 2015 |
I pity dis writer |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by femi4: 8:07pm On May 10, 2015 |
Normosa:In the book of Revelation, letters were written to seven churches. How can you say that church does not exist |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Horlufemi(m): 9:56pm On May 10, 2015 |
femi4: church is not a building. it's a collection of true believers of Christ worldwide. make Una let your paid keep deceiving you. |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by femi4: 10:39pm On May 10, 2015 |
Horlufemi:And who is talking about building, have you read that part of the bible at all. The gathering of believers is scriptural. That part refers to different group of believers, their strength and weaknesses |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Islie: 11:17pm On May 10, 2015 |
kullozone: You dey vex for they guy...... Where did you see him exhibiting bad belle in this post of his |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by Islie: 11:30pm On May 10, 2015 |
dre11: There are some valid points from what he raised and we Christians just need to check ourselves to know if we are in the right path Because the bible says "he that thinketh he stands let him be careful...... Else he falls from the grace" |
Re: The Church Might Be Leading You To Hell- Etcetera Writes by kullozone(m): 2:31am On May 11, 2015 |
Islie: Oga,no giv me unnecessary mention jare...I hope you can point out where I indicated that he exhibited bad belle in thesame post abi? |
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