F-35's main role has never been and will never be stealth.
You sure you are not typing from inside a psychiatric hospital ?
"Unparalleled Stealth
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Henry120: The uselessness of the SANDF captured in video. SANDF troops deployed to South-African reserves are more interested in watching football, than protecting the wildlife they are sent there to do.
ViceAdmiral: The Nigerian military is so broken, its soldiers are refusing to fight
By Kevin Sieff May 10 at 3:30 AM
LAGOS, Nigeria — As the Nigerian military battled Boko Haram over the past year, scores of soldiers made a decision that would put their lives in grave danger — they refused to fight. It wasn’t for lack of bravery, they said. It was for lack of weapons.
At least 66 of the soldiers have been found guilty of mutiny and sentenced to death by firing squad. Dozens more remain in detention, awaiting trial. The Nigerian government describes them as cowards. Their supporters say they are scapegoats. “They joined the army to fight, not to commit suicide,” said Femi Falana, an attorney for 59 of the soldiers.
Nigerian military officials deny that soldiers are inadequately armed. In the case of the 111th Special Forces Battalion, military officials called soldiers’ justification for not fighting a hollow excuse.
Experts fault tactical training
Even Boko Haram’s leader, Abubakar Shekau, has poked fun at the Nigerian military.
“You send 7,000 troops?” Shekau said in one video recording posted online this year. “This is small. Only 7,000? By Allah, it is small. We can seize them one by one.”
Troops from Nigeria, Chad and Niger have recently pushed the Boko Haram fighters out of a fiefdom in northern Nigeria that had grown to the size of Maryland. But experts say the rebels have gathered in a vast, remote forest and still pose a significant threat.
Some of the mutiny trials have revealed startling glimpses of soldiers’ anger at their superiors. In one high-profile case, 12 soldiers allegedly shot at their commanding officer after he ordered them to conduct a mission that they claimed was tantamount to suicide. The officer somehow was not injured, and the soldiers claim they intended to express their anger, not to commit murder. They, too, were sentenced to death.
“These are issues of indiscipline,” said Gen. Chris Olukolade, the military’s spokesman, “and they undermine the morale of the others.”
The army chief of staff must confirm all of the mutiny sentences before formal appeals can be filed.
It’s unclear what Buhari’s policy will be toward the soldiers in detention or those already sentenced. But one of his campaign managers, Chibuike Amaechi, appeared to take the soldiers’ side when the issue emerged before the presidential election in March.
“The soldiers have the right to protest for the federal government’s failure to fully equip them,” Amaechi said at a news conference in December.
Buhari, a former military dictator, has vowed to defeat Boko Haram. But analysts say it may not be easy to rebuild the institution he once led.
“Buhari’s supporters have to realize that the army that Buhari left is not the army of today, which is broken, ill-motivated and under-equipped,” said Moses E. Ochonu, an associate professor of African history at Vanderbilt University.
Some top military officers said that the announcement that prosecutors are seeking capital punishment for the mutineers has put an end to the practice of deserting.
“It spread like a virus until we enforced the law,” said one senior military officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the cases. “They were thinking they could get away with it.”
Nigerian officials say one of their greatest deficiencies in equipment is a product of a failed deal with the United States.
Last year, the Nigerian government tried to equip its military with Cobra attack helicopters, but the deal was halted by the United States. The Nigerian ambassador to Washington said that equipment “would have brought down the terrorists within a short time.”
State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in November that the sale was canceled “due to concerns about Nigeria’s ability to use and maintain this type of helicopter . . . and ongoing concerns about the Nigerian military’s protection of civilians when conducting military operations.”
The U.S. government has also declined to share some intelligence with Nigerian security officials, due to concerns about Boko Haram infiltration.
Those disagreements appear to have led the Nigerian government to cancel a U.S. mission to train one of its Special Forces battalions last year.
At least one of the soldiers sentenced to death for mutiny was trained in Pakistan. But he told the court that the program involved weapons that the Nigerian soldiers wanted but never received, such as German submachine guns. It’s another example, according to the soldiers, of the army’s dysfunction.
“They have a crisis in the military,” said Falana, the attorney. “And they’re trying to use these boys to make a point.”
Nigerian military court-martials General blamed for loss of Baga to Boko Haram
The Nigerian military on Monday commenced the court martial of a Brigadier General, Enitan Ransome-Kuti, and four other senior officers, blamed for the loss of Baga in Borno State, to Boko Haram insurgents in January.
Mr. Ransome-Kuti, his Chief of Staff, Lieutenant Colonel G.A. Suru, and some other senior officers, were arrested for failing to repel Boko Haram attack on the headquarters of the Multinational Joint Task Force [MNJTF] in Baga.
Also arrested were the Commanding Officers of the 134 and 174 Battalions — Lieutenant Colonel Haruna and Major Aliyu. The two battalions are under the MNJTF.
The soldiers revolted after some of their colleagues were ambushed and killed by Boko Haram extremists, an attack they blamed on their superior officer.
Also in December, 2014, over 200 soldiers were sacked after an overnight trial. They had been held in detention for three months and denied communication to their families or legal representation.
Is that also rubbish??By the way how many soldiers have been executed so far after being court marshaled for refusing to go into battle with only as little as a magazine.Well if it turns out to be rubbish than Nigerian media leaves a lot to be desired for with with their accuracy....JUST SAYING....And by the looks of things your military seems to be very well adept at court marshaling soldiers who at times seem to have legitimate concerns...apart form shooting at your own general that is
Nigeria deployed about 40,000 into one battle, we court martial about 200, what percentage is that?
0.005 % .....do you know the meaning of insignificant figures?
Are you white? I am happy to tell you Nigeria has defeated Boko Haram 100%.....American/NATO army/air force has failed to defeat Taliban after 13 years of war in Afghanistan, the white army is now running away back home in defeat and failure
The best army in Africa today is the Nigerian army, we won all our wars in 150 years....unbeaten record.
Are those 200 dismissed soldiers the only troops in Nigeria's 40,000 strong force on the frontline of war?
Ever heard about Konduga battalion of about 300 men who k.illed 1,000 Boko Haram fighters in few months ?
Ancient helicopters and tanks bought under a LOAN before the oil crisis!!
Your government is now broke - oil prices have crashed - you have no more money, you need to borrow just to pay wages!!
SANDF is in difficulties - BUT IS STILL MORE CAPABLE THAN THE NIGERIAN MILITARY
Get it into your head, our standards are higher than yours, our "state of decline" is a level of proficiancy that Nigerian can never nor has ever acheived.
Also, your numbers are heavily inflated. 2 or beechking (for VIP Transport), 2-3 Alpha jet, 1-2 Gazelle etc
Same old same old from the resident clown.
Oil price havent 'crashed',as of today,a barrel of brent crude sells at $62.it is increasing per month.
Cowards...Boko Haram flees before the mighty Nigerian army in battle !
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I doubt there's any doubt on the position of the Nigerian army in the field right now....it was essentially said an American post was inadequate due to it being written from the states then i provided an African link that states same thing soldiers refusing to fight due to an inept position they found their self's in....Nigerian soldiers refused to fight and that's is called cowardice. Ou perhaps you never really grasped how inept your army was...court martials across rank and file and now a GOC and a dozen colonels are having their turn..or so we are led to believe . ..i keep reading how the 'coward' SA army ran to the airport in Bangui but not how the glorious 'Nigerian army' was being whipped on their turf....I doubt i have a reason to envy West Africa....Let alone Nigeria....SORRY MATE....OU n congratulations to the Nigerians on their battlefield successes....i hope the leadership(both political and military) have learned.....Please keep me posted on the outcome of the General Court Martial....you played the RACE card i wont go that LOW my fellow African.
Again my congratulations on your battlefield successes...But then again did the NA really need to put themselves in that position in the first place...letting BH control all those 40 something towns they've recaptured,YEAH the Nigerian Military has redeemed it self after the horror show of a performance it was putting in.
Again my congratulations on your battlefield successes...But then again did the NA really need to put themselves in that position in the first place...letting BH control all those 40 something towns they've recaptured,YEAH the Nigerian Military has redeemed it self after the horror show of a performance it was putting in.
Nobody cares about long story of how war happened, the end is most important.
My Bible tells me that "Better is the end of a thing than the beginning of it".
Wanna be sarcastic? I know that game.
Last week the Holland celebrated the 70th anniversary of liberation from German army who captured the whole Netherlands in a few days of war and ruled the Dutch nation for years until 7,000 Canadian soldiers died to recapture Holland.
Mighty France was totally defeated in war by German army in a few weeks and France was ruled for years by German troops until America, Britain, Canada combined military might to invade France and free a world power from captivity.
Looks like the Europeans forget their own war history and make noise on BBC, Reuters, AFP about Nigeria losing partial control of some towns to Boko Haram, the whole of France, Holland, Poland etc were defeated and occupied by German army for many years and needed world powers to combine forces to free them.
Looks like the western world enjoys making a ridicule of the balck race, despite the fact that they have also suffered the same fate and cover it up. NATO is being disgraced out of Afghanistan after 13 years of failure with all their super power equipment and technology.
Nigeria can avoid losing towns by massive artillery bombardment of Boko Haram forces, but how do we level the enemy and level our own innocent civilians with artillery at the same time?
You think Nigerian military is senseless? No.
See our surgical strikes inside Sambisa forest, how we saved over 1,000 women and children from deep inside Boko Haram HQ captivity with very little civilian loss of life. That is world class army and air force capability displayed by Nigeria.
Still wonder why Israel and Egypt now love Nigerian army and sing our praises?
Last time I checked, Israel never praised American and British army performance in Afghanistan.
Nigeria won it's war at the end. That is all that matters.
Nigeria rules the world of armies, best performance 2015 worldwide. Nothing changes that dude ! .
Bwahahahaha It is actually the Southies and their Rooivalk obsolete junk metal being humiliated since Friday
More load in kilograms is not equal to more firepower, Rooivalk carries more payload than Apache, but the Apache has more firepower with more advanced weapons and targeting systems including a 30mm gun with 1,200 rounds of ammo, more firepower than Rooivalk 20mm gun with 700 rounds ammo. Payload is not = Firepower. PROVED !
Rooivalk carries more payload of obsolete weapons that are far LESS effective in modern combat compared to T-129 :
1. T-129 has 20mm x 3 barrel gun.....3 times more firepower than Rooivalk 20mm x 1 barrel gun
2. T-129 carries missile pods, a modern hardware for carrying more weapons on a single pylon, it can carry 8 air to air missiles. Rooivalk is obsolete with the wing tip concept of old times, only 2 air to air missiles, no missile pod technology.
3. T-129 carries laser guided rocket pods, meaning one single rocket from a pod of 24 rockets, is guided with precision laser on a target, meaning the T-129 only has to fire one rocket to k.ill one target, but the Rooivalk obsolete unguided rockets need to fire about 10 in a game of gamble and struggle to k.ill one target. Rooivalk has no laser guided precision rocket pod, it is obsolete.
4. T-129 can carry gun pods for two 30mm cannon in addition to three-barrel 20mm cannon on the nose, the Rooivalk cannot carry any extra gun pod, it only has one single barrel 20mm gun and very weak firepower. T-129 has many times more firepower than the weak Rooivalk.
5. T-129 can carry mixed weapons of different types on each pylon, modern technology weapons mix formula, see photo below....
A. four air to air missiles in missile pod B. laser guided 20 rocket pod C. four Anti-tank missiles D. four air to surface missiles
The Rooivalk wil NEVER NEVER NEVER have the above firepower combination of the T-129.
T-129 would have finished successful combat and gone back home while Rooivalk is still struggling to find target and try hit something.
Surely you enjoy my research brother
NAF is pushing SAAF far behind by another 25 years o ! .
I invite you to the dance floor again!
1.
A. Rooivalk chin-mounted gun: 20mm
Cartridge: 20 x 139mm
B. T120 chin-mounted gun: 20mm
Cartridge: 20 x 102m
Conclusion: Rooivalk's gun carries a powerful punch.
2. Rooivalk prototypes carried missile pods they were ditched! Nothing special. Mostly used in light helicopters!
Your SAN sank NATO fleet? In which war? Falklands war?
SAN has NEVER fired torpedo in war since 60 years ago. You think war game is real war? You fire one torpedo on NATO fleet and they reply you with twenty .
Uhm....Why are war games held?...........Let me tell you. Its to prepare for real war, thus they are the closes thing to a real war without being in a real war!
Nobody cares about long story of how war happened, the end is most important.
My Bible tells me that "Better is the end of a thing than the beginning of it".
Wanna be sarcastic? I know that game.
Last week the Holland celebrated the 70th anniversary of liberation from German army who captured the whole Netherlands in a few days of war and ruled the Dutch nation for years until 7,000 Canadian soldiers died to recapture Holland.
Mighty France was totally defeated in war by German army in a few weeks and France was ruled for years by German troops until America, Britain, Canada combined military might to invade France and free a world power from captivity.
Looks like the Europeans forget their own war history and make noise on BBC, Reuters, AFP about Nigeria losing partial control of some towns to Boko Haram, the whole of France, Holland, Poland etc were defeated and occupied by German army for many years and needed world powers to combine forces to free them.
Looks like the western world enjoys making a ridicule of the balck race, despite the fact that they have also suffered the same fate and cover it up. NATO is being disgraced out of Afghanistan after 13 years of failure with all their super power equipment and technology.
Nigeria can avoid losing towns by massive artillery bombardment of Boko Haram forces, but how do we level the enemy and level our own innocent civilians with artillery at the same time?
You think Nigerian military is senseless? No.
See our surgical strikes inside Sambisa forest, how we saved over 1,000 women and children from deep inside Boko Haram HQ captivity with very little civilian loss of life. That is world class army and air force capability displayed by Nigeria.
Still wonder why Israel and Egypt now love Nigerian army and sing our praises?
Last time I checked, Israel never praised American and British army performance in Afghanistan.
Nigeria won it's war at the end. That is all that matters.
Nigeria rules the world of armies, best performance 2015 worldwide. Nothing changes that dude ! .
Nobody cares about long story of how war happened, the end is most important.
My Bible tells me that "Better is the end of a thing than the beginning of it".
Wanna be sarcastic? I know that game.
Last week the Holland celebrated the 70th anniversary of liberation from German army who captured the whole Netherlands in a few days of war and ruled the Dutch nation for years until 7,000 Canadian soldiers died to recapture Holland.
Mighty France was totally defeated in war by German army in a few weeks and France was ruled for years by German troops until America, Britain, Canada combined military might to invade France and free a world power from captivity.
Looks like the Europeans forget their own war history and make noise on BBC, Reuters, AFP about Nigeria losing partial control of some towns to Boko Haram, the whole of France, Holland, Poland etc were defeated and occupied by German army for many years and needed world powers to combine forces to free them.
Looks like the western world enjoys making a ridicule of the balck race, despite the fact that they have also suffered the same fate and cover it up. NATO is being disgraced out of Afghanistan after 13 years of failure with all their super power equipment and technology.
Nigeria can avoid losing towns by massive artillery bombardment of Boko Haram forces, but how do we level the enemy and level our own innocent civilians with artillery at the same time?
You think Nigerian military is senseless? No.
See our surgical strikes inside Sambisa forest, how we saved over 1,000 women and children from deep inside Boko Haram HQ captivity with very little civilian loss of life. That is world class army and air force capability displayed by Nigeria.
Still wonder why Israel and Egypt now love Nigerian army and sing our praises?
Last time I checked, Israel never praised American and British army performance in Afghanistan.
Nigeria won it's war at the end. That is all that matters.
Nigeria rules the world of armies, best performance 2015 worldwide. Nothing changes that dude ! .
With NATO its about saving face in Afghanistan at the moment...infact tell me a foreign power that has 'won' in Afghanistan.On France,Holland in WW2...are you seriously comparing NAZI Germany's military might with Boko Haram,Any army can be defeated but then also think about who's 'defeating' u . With that said do u still think the NA i should still be considered to be one of Africas best seeing how they could perform on a very bad day (in this case a couple of years) against a rag tag enemy like Boko Haram.How would they measure them against an enemy like Algeria,Egypt, Ethiopia,RSA .Or perhaps the Nigerian military is very good they just needed time take in the concept of COIN.Something the SA army mastered a while back.Or perhaps it was the approaching elections that got GEJ interested in getting rid of BH once and for all.Now perharps Nigeria is Africa's best after 'defeating' Boko Haram and it has the combat experience an Army like SA doesn't have.Personally i'm disappointed the NA let the BH fiasco go on as long as it did....i mean NA is west africas 'big brother' .
You can go argue with the people on Beegeagles blog if you wish.
Here is Nairaland, and I have said SAN has ONLY ONE operational submarine, you have no manpower to put more than one submarine into war.
Your sailors cannot connect simple submarine battery terminals in the right node, so how will they fire torpedo?
Nigeria has at least 2 Anti-submarine warfare helicopters in reserve, yes we can deal with your lone ranger submarine that has to snorkel after two days because it runs on diesel and battery.....the battery your sailors do not know how to connect properly.
Your Southie submarine will hit mud on seabed by poor sailor judgement even before Nigerian ASW helicopter decides to attack it .
Helicopters ?
With No
Radar. FLIR. Anti-submarine weapons.
A diesel submarine can attack and leave the area.
Fact established: Nigerian navy is no match for SAN.
Today, Southie navy has ONLY ONE frigate and ONLY ONE submarine in operational. The rest are dead as cooked fish.
Over 50 years old, NNS Thunder is busy sailing around the continent and saving Africa from piracy while South African navy sits down at home redundant and lazy.
SANDF boasted it will patrol the whole Gulf Of Guinea this year and reach Nigerian waters, but almost 6 months into 2015 we have not even seen a South African canoe patrol up to Angola.
When we were wasting time debating that SAN gulf of Guinea patrol plan 2015 last year, I told @Patches it was a dream that will melt away like the candles you guys burn every night due to ESKOM's new rule of total darkness for all South Africans.
How can SAN use one frigate, one submarine, low fuel, to guard South Africa's massive U-shaped coastline of 3,000+ km and still patrol up to Ghana with same one warship, a frigate with delicate engine, not an endurance OPV....
Your South African military is a dwarf climbing ladder to play basketball ! .
"Over 50 years old, NNS Thunder is busy sailing around the continent and saving Africa from piracy while South African navy sits down at home redundant and lazy"
Have you ever heard of operation copper? Since we started patrolling the Mozambican coast in 2010 guess how many Piracy attacks have there been? 0 that's how many!!!
"How can SAN use one frigate, one submarine, low fuel, to guard South Africa's massive U-shaped coastline of 3,000+ km and still patrol up to Ghana with same one warship, a frigate with delicate engine, not an endurance OPV...."
There are always 2-3 Operatonal Frigates and 2 Operational Subs, and we use our OPVs to patrol the Mozambican coast now, and not our Frigates!
"Old photos mate.
Today, Southie navy has ONLY ONE frigate and ONLY ONE submarine in operational. The rest are dead as cooked fish"
Pic 1: F 147(Spionkop) Pic 2: F 146 (Isandlwana) Pic 3: S101 (Manthatisi) Pic 4: S102 (Charlotte Maxeke )
"Over 50 years old, NNS Thunder is busy sailing around the continent and saving Africa from piracy while South African navy sits down at home redundant and lazy"
Have you ever heard of operation copper? Since we started patrolling the Mozambican coast in 2010 guess how many Piracy attacks have there been? 0 that's how many!!!
"How can SAN use one frigate, one submarine, low fuel, to guard South Africa's massive U-shaped coastline of 3,000+ km and still patrol up to Ghana with same one warship, a frigate with delicate engine, not an endurance OPV...."
There are always 2-3 Operatonal Frigates and 2 Operational Subs, and we use our OPVs to patrol the Mozambican coast now, and not our Frigates!
"Old photos mate.
Today, Southie navy has ONLY ONE frigate and ONLY ONE submarine in operational. The rest are dead as cooked fish"
Pic 1: F 147(Spionkop) Pic 2: F 146 (Isandlwana) Pic 3: S101 (Manthatisi) Pic 4: S102 (Charlotte Maxeke )
MikeCZAR: You can't what is advanced on the T-129?
Better payload! Operating range! Availability!
Show me a Nigerian T-129!
Day & night all environment capability; effective, precise weapon systems that provide combat superiority while low visual, aural, radar and IR signatures (it has stealth features)
night vision (helmet-mounted display system) and integrated INS/GPS (Dual)/Doppler navigation and an air vehicle monitoring system.
radio frequency jammer
The engines are equipped with the FADEC (full authority digital engine control) system,
Advanced millimetre wave radar (MILDAR), similar to the Longbow and the IAI/ELTA radars
