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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:37pm On May 10, 2015 |
For those not familiar with submarine ops ....that's how you properly ran aground a sub ![]() ![]() USS San Francisco (SSN-711) Am pretty sure the SA navy incident was not that bad And a link for those that are leading themselves to think that sort of thing only happens in SOUTH Africa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_incidents_since_2000 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 10, 2015 |
saengine: What are you "ouching" for, there are and never were any Piracy incidences of the coast of mozambique. SAN deployment of frigates to mozambique is similar to deploying troops in the streets of luxemborg or Switzerland. There simply is no threat to deploy against. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:46pm On May 10, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The T-129 is joint development between TAI and Agusta. The Rooivalk on the other hand is a French Helicopter built by French engineers, french components and French blue-print for the Apartheid government in South-Africa. It is in-fact a 90% French helicopter, same as the Super Puma in SAAF service. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 6:52pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120: Why do you sound like you want to cry? Why dont you look at the pics/comments again and see what I'm ouching about. Figure it out. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:04pm On May 10, 2015 |
jln115: There are and never were any Piracy incidences of the coast of mozambique. SAN deployment of frigates to mozambique is similar to deploying troops in the streets of luxemborg or Switzerland. There simply is no threat to deploy against. You classless liars!!! Your Sub spent 7years at the dock, before it was re-introduced to service. While another was completely out. [b]"inventory but 12 are in “rotational” storage and only 18 Gripen navigators and pilots have been trained to operational status. Which begs the question: what should we do with aircraft we don’t need and can’t afford to operate? The solution could be a simple one: sell off the 12 Gripens in storage (since we won’t miss them anyway) and use the money for fuel, pilot training and new equipment that the Air Force desperately needs - its C-130 Hercules fleet is ageing and the Air Force is increasingly forced to rely on charters to move people and equipment to places like the Democratic Republic of Congo, while the SAAF’s maritime surveillance C-47TPs are more than half a century old and suffering from attrition. While the C-47TPs and C-130s are working extremely hard and are in urgent need of replacement, the Gripens are grossly underutilised. Since 2008 the Gripen fleet has flown 3 500 hours, according to a SAAF official, equating to roughly 135 hours per airframe or roughly 20 hours per aircraft per year, or less than two hours per aircraft per month. Maintenance for the Gripens has also been problematic -[/b] " 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:05pm On May 10, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:08pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:Agusta is defunct. You don't know what you're talking about! The T129 uses American engines! SAAF doesn't operate Super Pumas, SA's pumas were retired in the early 90s. Show me the French engineers! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:10pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:You can be a joke at times lol. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 7:13pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120: Exactly. Next time don't try and be clever with me, when you're clueless as to what I'm talking about. You should have asked me what I'm ouching about and left it at that. Would have given you a very polite answer. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:48pm On May 10, 2015 |
ViceAdmiral: There is no question Nigeria has the best military in Sub-saharan Africa, and only behind Egypt and Algeria in all of Africa. This is apparent in our active combat deployment, experience and victories. It also shows with Egypt directly asking for Nigerian help in dealing with ISIS in Africa. Islamic Terrorism is an ideology based warfare. It shows in the number of countries battling islamic terrorists and number of years they have been doing so. Turkey = 50+ years India = 15+ years Indonesia = 20 + years Pakistan. = 20+ years Egypt = 20+ years Iran = 20+ years Israel = 50+ years Philippines = 50+ years Morrocco = 20+ years Algeria = 20+ years Iraq. = 20+ years Saudi Arabia = 20+ years Russia = 20+ years The United states = 20+ years, and many many more Northern Nigeria has always been a hotbed for religious extremists from Usman don fodio in 1803 - Shekau (III) in 2015, we've always had extremists in the north. On the Nigerian military operations against boko-haram, Nigeria used to experience an almost weekly boko-haram bombings in the Northern part of the country, and down south to gboko in benue state (although benue is considered a North-central state in Nigeria). So, these states, and the FCT were not spared. Borno, yobe, adamawa, kano, kaduna, Gombe, kogi, sokoto, Niger, plateau, Jigawa, FCT (Abuja), benue. 13 states plus the FCT. Nigerian security forces successfully raided boko-haram cells in all these areas and restricted their activities to only 3 states (Borno, yobe and Adamawa). This is success by any standard. The military and intelligence services effectively contained this threat for 5 years, until the current setback. Current setback only began 6 - 10 months ago, after the JTF was disbanded, the 7th Division created and former COAS was retired . In that period, the President of Nigeria, GEJ, consistently asked for international support to the Nigerian military, support in dealing with SALW proliferation and terrorism in the sahel region. On many occasions, Nigerian military chiefs asked for EDA's(MRAPs, COIN equipment) and intelligence support from the Americans and were flatly denied. The Americans made multiple statements about their support to Nigeria in the media, and actually did nothing on the ground. So the comment about President GEJ doing nothing till the elections approached is plain ignorant! Groups like boko-haram are not defeated once and for all, as can be seen by the number of countries currently engaging ideology based groups. It just doesn't happen. However they can be contained, and that is what the Nigerian military is currently doing. *The old SADF might have been experienced in dealing with ANC affiliated groups, but they currently have no experience of how modern day COIN works. Plus the current crop of SANDF troops are made up of a bunch of ill-trained, ill-experienced bush men/ ANC fighters, who have no idea of how the modern battle field works. Their abysmal defeat in the CAR is enough evidence of the ineptitude of the SANDF. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:51pm On May 10, 2015 |
saengine: You quoted all part of his post, I picked up a certain part of JLN115's post and responded adequately to in response to your ouch. It seems you're clueless of your own comment. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:56pm On May 10, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: It is a part of Finmeccanica SpA. You operate Super Pumas, they are your primary medium lift Helicopters. Go ask De klerk. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:57pm On May 10, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:14pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:More piracy in Mozambique channel http://www.clubofmozambique.com/solutions1/sectionnews.php?secao=mozambique&id=22956&tipo=one |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:15pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:More piracy in Mozambique channel http://www.clubofmozambique.com/solutions1/sectionnews.php?secao=mozambique&id=22956&tipo=one |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:16pm On May 10, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Wrong information ! Rooivalk 20mm x 1 barrel gun = 139 mm total calibre firepower T-129 20mm x 3 barrel gun = 306 mm total calibre firepower PROVED : T-129 gun has more firepower than Rooivalk gun Hey dude, Rooivalk does not carry 20 AAM and ATGM, it only carries 2 AAM on wing-tips only. Rooivalk carries 16 ATGM maximum, T-129 also carries 16 ATGM. Pods are modern advancement for helicopters, the Rooivalk is too old to carry any pods for guns or missiles, obsolete 1980s Bush war old idea. Rooivalk carries ONLY ONE GUN....NO GUN PODS EXTRA.....T-129 carries 1 nose gun and can carry extra 4 gun pods on wing pylons. T-129 carries missile pods 4 missiles per pod = 16 AAM.....One single T-129 will sh.oot down the whole SAAF fleet of 11 Rooivalks in 5 minutes T-129 beats Rooivalk with superior T-129 firepower, avionics, and weapons mix combinations . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:23pm On May 10, 2015 |
jln115: Nobody fires live ammo on the other in war games, it's all a game. In war, you fire torpedo on NATO ships, they demolish your torpedo with anti-torpedo counter-measure and unleash anti-submarine helicopters on your submarine while their own ships launch 20 torpedoes in reply to your one Southie torpedo. NATO was fooling you man ! They sent ships to play game with your submarine, does NATO go to war without it's own submarines? Soweto fools ! you never asked the simple common sense question, where were NATO submarines in that war game? Absent, they were making a fool of you to test your new submarine against mostly old NATO warships and fuel tankers/transport ships. Why did Britain not send it's best submarine to play war game with South Africa's best submarine and we will see how you will sink NATO fleet. Fools, total fools, the Europeans keep fooling you fools, that's why they ruled South Africa till modern day 1994....because you are fools ![]() ![]() . 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by xwolverine: 8:28pm On May 10, 2015 |
patches689: Can you show me where a Nigerian military personnel talked about the bolded platforms in an interview with the press. I am not asking for hear-says, I am asking for a citation of an ordinary spokesperson mentioning any of those platforms in an interview. You're saying according to your logic that: the Chief of Air Staff would go on record to claim that the Airforce is getting a platform when they are not, and he would further elaborate on the broader scope of integration and how the helicopter fits into the chain of command of the Airforce, without being certain of how feasible that plan is. If thats the norm in SAAF, thats not acceptable in NAF and i take your assertions as an insult to say the least. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:29pm On May 10, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Nope, I never said that. I said the nuclear powered submarines used to play war games with South Africa have no nuclear missiles on board. Show me source where South Africa navy diesel submarine trained in war game with another country's nuclear missile armed submarine, it NEVER happened , NEVER ! Also remember to show missile guided missile made in Sudan. Simple basic research is enough to put y.our ugly face into thick mud my brah ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:31pm On May 10, 2015 |
jln115: this is 2013, and instances of piracy in the Horn of Africa’s waters have been reduced to single figures. Meanwhile Operation Copper, the name of the SAN’s mission in Mozambique, has yet to result in the capture of a single pirate. Not because the pirates themselves are proving elusive, but because they are simply not there.. ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.africandefence.net/why-is-south-africa-fighting-pirates-in-mozambique/ I repeat, S.A deployment of a Frigate in mozambique is similar to deploying troops to fight threats in luxemborg....... SA military planners across the board smack of an aura of utter cluenessness. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:33pm On May 10, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Nigeria won the war....FINAL ! NAF has guided missile precision strike drones, South Africa has NONE . Nigeria used artillery with excellent accuracy and caution on civilian occupied towns with saved thousands of lives. Skillful NA Bofors men ! South Africa has NOT fired one artillery shell in war since 20 years, Tanzanian artillery was saving you in Congo RDC . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:33pm On May 10, 2015 |
agaugust:Rooivalk: •8 or 16 Anti-tank Mokopa (SAL) missiles •4 x Air-to-air Mistral missiles •38 or 76 x 70 mm Unguided rockets •20 mm F2 High-speed dual feed cannon, carrying 750 rounds T-129: Armaments:2x4 UMTAS ATGM Missile(or Hellfire or Spike), 4x19 70 mm (2.75”) Unguided Rockets, 4x2-4 70 mm (2.75”) Guided CİRİT Rockets, 2x2 ATAM Stinger. Thus Rooivalk carries 16 ATGM vs 8 ATGM carried by the T-129 Rooivalk carries 4 ATAM vs 4 ATAM carried by the T129 https://www.tai.com.tr/en/project/atak http://www.aircraft.co.za/Encyclopedia/D/459.php |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:37pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:Dude you said there were NO piracy attacks in the Mozambican channel before we started patrolling there!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:41pm On May 10, 2015 |
agaugust:"Nobody fires live ammo on the other in war games, it's all a game." Of course they don't fire live ammunition at each other, are you r#tarded? Have you ever heard of simulations? Besides Bro, YOU YOURSELF said 1 SAN SUB CAN SINK THE WHOLE NN!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:43pm On May 10, 2015 |
jln115: There are no Pirates in mozambique. the name of the SAN’s mission in Mozambique, has yet to result in the capture of a single pirate. Not because the pirates themselves are proving elusive, but because they are simply not there.. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:44pm On May 10, 2015 |
ViceAdmiral: You contradict yourself. You say nobody has successfully defeated rag tag Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan, so we cannot blame America/Britain. Then you say how is Nigeria has one of the best armies is Africa by defeating rag tag Boko Haram? Well, Nigerian army defeated rag tag insurgents in war, American/British army FAILED to defeat rag tag insurgents in war. PROVED : Nigerian army is better than American/British army in performance, except for technology and equipment differences. For France and Holland, they lost in war to Germany, a loss is a loss, never mind who was beating them up. Why did they not all align together and defeat Germany like USA/UK/Canada did? France was captured, France is a world power from ancient times till today, Germany defeated France and captured all their towns. British army was inside France at that time helping France, over 400,000 strong British and French army ran away like cowards from France when Germany arrived, that is the biggest cowardice in war history, they ran away to the sea and escaped to England, British and French artmy combined ran away like cowards from German army in 1940.... If 300 Nigerian troops retreat from a town, BBC and Reuters will shout all over the world and publish the news with trumpets ! [size=13pt]Well, I say it today, British army and French army of 400,000 troops combined, abandoned all armour and artillery, ran away from battle and escaped by sea when German army arrived.[/size] Is is only Nigeria's 300 or 400 troops that ever retreated in battle ? White racist Europeans forget their own war history. We Nigerians will help them dig it out from under the table and publish it, get it ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dunkirk . 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:47pm On May 10, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Bwahhahaahha ![]() ![]() Poor research ! Nigerian navy torpedo armed Lynx anti-submarine helicopters have radar hidden inside the nose cone, and dipping sonar hidden inside the cabin....you know nothing about ASW dude ![]() ![]() Once a submarine attacks, it's position is revealed. ASW helos will hunt it down . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:48pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:Successful Collaboration Against Piracy in the Indian Ocean http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/successful-collaboration-against-piracy-in-the-indian-ocean |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:49pm On May 10, 2015 |
Henry120:Successful Collaboration Against Piracy in the Indian Ocean http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/successful-collaboration-against-piracy-in-the-indian-ocean |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:51pm On May 10, 2015 |
jln115: South African navy has crew for ONLY one frigate and submarine, does not matter if they pick F146 or F147 to sail, it's same one crew that you rotate from ship to ship, and one sailors crew from submarine to submarine ![]() ![]() Manpower shortage plagues SANDF, SAN, SAAF....the well trained white men have fled to Australia and shortage now plagues your military . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:53pm On May 10, 2015 |
ViceAdmiral: You just proved you are a South African.....no wonder you spend your time looking for how to ridicule a victorious Nigerian army that mighty Israel and Egypt respects ![]() . 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 10, 2015 |
jln115: Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.............. My ribs are hurting!!! |
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