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Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Nobody: 1:28pm On May 12, 2015 |
caprini1: please which company did you use? |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by EMANY01(m): 1:41pm On May 12, 2015 |
TonySpike: I'm only going to point out (don't have acces to the documentation right now) but the financiaL records indicate that in the last eight years lagos built roughly 65 megawatts of power generating capasity, the fg roughly seven thousand megawatt (with only about three thousand of that actively generating) but for every megawatt the fg built , lagos state spent almost five times as much money to build theirs. |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Nobody: 1:41pm On May 12, 2015 |
To all tribal bigots regardless of ethnicity, i have a few quotes for you "To complain is always nonacceptance of what is. It invariably carries an unconscious negative charge. When you complain, you make yourself into a victim. When you speak out, you are in your power. So change the situation by taking action or by speaking out if necessary or possible; leave the situation or accept it. All else is madness." Eckhart Tolle "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked."Allen Ginsberg "If your ego starts out, 'I am important, I am big, I am special,' you're in for some disappointments when you look around at what we've discovered about the universe. No, you're not big. No, you're not. You're small in time and in space. And you have this frail vessel called the human body that's limited on Earth." Neil deGrasse Tyson. "Your ego can become an obstacle to your work. If you start believing in your greatness, it is the death of your creativity." Marina Abramovic. Leadership is not a popularity contest; it's about leaving your ego at the door. The name of the game is to lead without a title."Robin S. Sharma. “Hate, it has caused a lot of problems in the world, but has not solved one yet.” Maya Angelou. “Never waste a minute thinking about people you don't like.” Dwight D. Eisenhower “Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.” George Bernard Shaw “I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him.” Booker T. Washington “Often those that criticise others reveal what he himself lacks.” Shannon L. Alder “Save your skin from the corrosive acids from the mouths of toxic people. Someone who just helped you to speak evil about another person can later help another person to speak evil about you.” Israelmore Ayivor “Protect your good image from the eyes of negative viewers, who may look at your good appearance with an ugly fiendish eye, and ruin your positive qualities with their chemical infested tongues.” Michael Bassey Johnson “Let no man pull you so low as to hate him.” Martin Luther King Jr. “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” Ernest Hemingway. Please can we have meaningful conversations. A friend of mine from America came to this thread cause she was curious about Nigeria and her conclusion after been here is "your people are messed up". 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 1:43pm On May 12, 2015 |
EMANY01: What have you said really? Nothing. The approach you are ignorantly talking about is already making huge a difference in Lagos state and is also the new and future global approach. 2 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Gucciboss: 1:43pm On May 12, 2015 |
What template are they talking about? The last time I checked the Lagos state propagandists have only less than 50 MW to their credit for over six years. thenationonlineng.net/new/power-lasg-generates-47-5mw-in-six-years/ |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Bayswater: 1:49pm On May 12, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh: I guess we'd have to start disregarding any news that comes from lying party |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 1:54pm On May 12, 2015 |
Lagos IPP reduces energy cost by 40% —Fashola
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Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by emiye(m): 2:01pm On May 12, 2015 |
Out of the box solutions, not crying everyday about gas pipeline vandalism. I feel like giving the current minister of power backhand smack on the face, anytime he comes on air to lament about pipeline vandalism, as if he was employed to receive pity from Nigerians. Only fools do a thing the same way over and over again and expect a different result. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by caprini1: 2:08pm On May 12, 2015 |
teeowl:when u get to Alaba int,l market ,ask where they sell solar panels...from there you explain the appliances you want to use ,they will install according to the appliances u want .batteries and inverter inclusive....with warranty ,and you pay after installation and testing..... |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 2:11pm On May 12, 2015 |
gists: The first order of business for the incoming administration is to get rid of FG's power transmission monopoly. Invest in generation and handing over their generated electricity to the FG's obsolete and worthless transmission grid and get back less than what they fed into it makes zero economic sense. They should allow the DISCOs generate and transmit within their area of operation. The DISCOs are pretty much redundant and underutilized. Of what use are DISCOs with little or nothing to offer their customers in form of electricity?.. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by 989900: 2:16pm On May 12, 2015 |
Gucciboss: Regulatory laws hampering progress -- I guess that was the part of the memo you missed. |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 2:26pm On May 12, 2015 |
teeowl: Many Nigerians can not afford so many things same way many Nigerians can afford a lot of things. The rich should be encouraged to go ahead and do it, get them off the grid and divert saved electricity back into the grid for the average Nigerians to use. Many rich communities in America generate too much power via solar to store and consume so they sell their excess electricity to their local utilities. It's still a win win situation regardless who can or can not afford it.. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Collynzo9: 2:26pm On May 12, 2015 |
EMANY01:I am typing with my phone now so I can't reply your drivel in details, however let me point some things out to you: 1. On the issue of trucks on the road - steady power supply will reduce Nigerians consumption of petroleum products, this means a reduction in the frequency of restocking filling stations with this products which in turn reduces the number of petroleum tankers on the road. In essence, these power stations might just reduce the number of trucks on the road rather than increase it. 2. On the issue of safety, condensed natural gas is so light that it easily evaporates in the event of a spill or leakage. You have not made any tangible point against this model really. 2 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 2:29pm On May 12, 2015 |
njays24: What steady power? There's no such thing in Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 2:35pm On May 12, 2015 |
Anyi3: AES bought Enron..... The AES Barge, the first Independent Power Project in Nigeria was formed in 1999 as a result of a Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) between the Lagos State Government and Enron for purchase of electricity. The PPA was split into three (3) phases; The project still pumps 270MW into the obsolete National grid.. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Nobody: 2:40pm On May 12, 2015 |
Do you have the phone number and address of the company that did it for you or should i send you a PM (private message)... caprini1: |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by gists: 2:42pm On May 12, 2015 |
aresa:Thank you jare my broda. We don't really need this much dependence on the national grid. Although I will not be too eager to say it should be demolished out-rightly. I think Nigeria is basically covered by the spread of the various DISCOs. If there is any law preventing the DISCOs from generating power for there jurisdictions, such laws should be reviewed and relaxed. Of what benefit is a DISCO that doesn't get power to distribute to its customers? If we let the DISCOs generate a percentage of the power demand from their localities and augment with whatever they get from the national grid, we would have solved over 60% of our electricity problem without having to wait for another decade to fix the national grid. 2 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 2:47pm On May 12, 2015 |
Reference: Nothing is undoable, doing nothing and and seeing nothing but failure before trying is the greatest injustice.. It's here and already working without problems. All the commissioned power plants are performing at maximum capacity without the usual and daily stories and excuses by the FG about pipeline dandalism... This approach took the state secretariat (2nd largest civil service) off the grid, now they enjoy uninterrupted power supply which increased productivity... This single plant also lights up many streets and surrounding industries.. These power plants runs on Natural gas and they've canceled out thousands of harmful diesel generators in Lagos state. 3 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 2:53pm On May 12, 2015 |
gists: The current arrangement is why the DISCOs are not investing and even the banks are not borrowing them money to invest in anything. It's bad business because they are not in control of their own business, they are at the mercy of our worthless transmission grid and FG's inability to profer credible and honest solutions. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by aresa: 3:01pm On May 12, 2015 |
Mynd44: We don't need power plants in the hinterlands, we just need them in central locations with transmission cables (Underground cable like they are doing in Lagos) to the hinterlands.. 2 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by gists: 3:07pm On May 12, 2015 |
Reference:In other words, we should fold our arms and resign to fate. But why hasn't there been any incident to the supply line of the various companies that are currently generating electricity using gas? People living close to flour mills and lafarge that are generating from gas have not experienced any misharp till date. I understand the risk of vandalism with crude and petrol lines. But who is the fo0l that will go and vandalize gas pipeline? Will he put it in 20liter kegs or buckets? Agreed that efficiency rises with size/scale but we don't have the grid to pump the electricity into. so the short/medium term solution in my opinion is decentralization. 2 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Mynd44: 3:19pm On May 12, 2015 |
aresa:We don't need those. What stops Enugu from generating power from coal? What stops the North from setting up solar farms and wind farms? Gas can always be transported for small plants without pipelines. Generate power where you need the power. aresa:We don't need those. What stops Enugu from generating power from coal? What stops the North from setting up solar farms and wind farms? Gas can always be transported for small plants without pipelines. Develop powers where you need the power. No point distributing again. 2 Likes |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by solelymade: 3:27pm On May 12, 2015 |
Sincere9gerian:Fake doctor, failed advocate so u still dey dis platform, sebi I told u in 2013 during ASUU strike that ur Oga Jona go hear am come 2015...I sure say ur eye Don clear now I can still c dat u are head bent on supporting a continuum of irresponsible governance. Change is here, u will live it 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by 989900: 3:29pm On May 12, 2015 |
Mynd44: The above ^^ is part of "thinking outside the box", the UK generates almost 70% of his huge power demands from coal. Qatar is building a 2.73MW plant @$4b (remember to let us ask OBJ how far . . . the $16b na), to be powered by tidal-waves (with special permission from Oba Akiolu, dem get lagoon pass us?). South Korea has one too. Palm oil kernels (ekuro/epo pupa) and some other bio-fuels, are being used in Uganda, Burundi, Malaysia, Singapore, the UK, Brazil and some other countries to generate power. 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Mynd44: 3:33pm On May 12, 2015 |
989900:The power from tidal waves is not a lagoon thing, it is basically using the movement of water from the beach |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by gists: 3:35pm On May 12, 2015 |
Mynd44:But there is no where in the world where distribution is phased out. Where do we draw the line? State level, LGAs, LCDA, Street? There is need to generate power in a central location within a region and distribute within that region. Except you are advocating everybody should generate their own electricity (which is pretty much what we have now with the numerous noisy i-pass-my-neighbours) there is no way you can eliminate distribution. You are right, there is nothing stopping enugu from generating from coal and kano from solar. But every street in enugu cannot have a coal power plant! In the same manner, ever street in kano cannot have a solar farm. That is why there should be a central location in enugu/kano where the coal plant/solar farm will be installed and DISTRIBUTED across the state. But I disagree with the idea of transporting gas in bottles to power plant. The recurrent logistics/efficiency/risk is just not worth it. Run a pipe to a central place like it is being done by some now. Generate the electricity and again DISTRIBUTE across the state or jurisdiction (if we are using discos that cut across a number of states) |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by TonySpike: 3:40pm On May 12, 2015 |
989900: Actually, I think the Nigerian government has better prospects at generating electric power from our untapped deposits of Bitumen belt in large quantities around Lagos, Ogun, Ondo and Edo states. Bitumen, I think, has better thermodynamic properties than coal because of its average particle size. As far as i am concerned, the Nigerian government has a large deposits/quantities of natural gas, uranium, bitumen and coal to jumpstart electricity production. We haven't even started mentioning geothermal options, solar power and hydroelectric options. Nigeria like the Republic of Congo, has more than enough natural resources to jumpstart Africa on a large scale! 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Mynd44: 3:40pm On May 12, 2015 |
gists:You still don't get it. Mini-grids is all about what you have said too. You know what area your plant will be serving, and you build transmission lines in that area alone. So if one plant in Enugu can generate enough power to power the whole state, fine. But generating power in Kaduna and transporting it to Abeokuta is a huge waste of resources because of the transmission. The distance from the point of generation to the point of usage is reduced 1 Like |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by 989900: 3:43pm On May 12, 2015 |
Mynd44: That was meant for the Oba and his comments. My drift basically is, there are many options to explore and implement if we are serious about doing something; à la there is more than one way to skin a cat. |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by TonySpike: 3:44pm On May 12, 2015 |
Mynd44: In addition to what you have said, these power plants can be integrated into the national grid later on when it becomes certain that they have excess capacity to extend their services to neighbouring states! |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Mynd44: 3:45pm On May 12, 2015 |
989900:All it takes is a government that wants to improve power sincerely |
Re: BUHARI GOVT: Eyeing Lagos Template To Solve Power Crisis. by Mynd44: 3:46pm On May 12, 2015 |
TonySpike:Yes. The truth is that the present crap we call a National grid is messed up. |
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