nelson4:
From all political sources , its now known that the north will consolidate power once again , with clinching the leadership of the senate and speakership. The latest development is that the SS and SE ( PDP) are behind the north in this move thereby thwarting the efforts of the southwest. Having felt betrayed by the SW, the SE and SS ( PDP senators and house memebers) have moved to form an alliance with the northern APC caucus to produce the senate leader and speakership.

Has the southwest made a wrong move?

Did they ever think that this marriage with the north will be happy ever?

The game of old roman politics has started , the first to reach to the SE and SS will carry the day. My bet is that the northerns will first reach out to them cause of their advantage of the presidency and considering the high level of hatred between the SW and other southerns since after the election.
The northerners has once again proved their mastery of national politics. This will provide a path towards 2019. Share your opinions.

No, Yorubas had made a perfect choice by forming that alliance with the North.

Let SE goes ahead with their plan, Yorubas can't be bothered. Na today!!!!! It's not new to us as people that know the history of Nigeria.

How did Akande lose the speakership of 7th Assembly to Tanbuwal should be a right question to ask Ihedioha from Imo state? Is he not an Igbo man?

Yorubas have always been an opposition party and for that reason alone, Yorubas have got nothing to fear.

Please, leave SS people out of this hatred equation and leave Ijaw people in that space. Like I have said on several occasions that there is nothing like SS when it's comes to SW or North cos each Nations within SS region has got well rooted ties with either SW or North region. Typical example of this is Edo state, Southern part of Delta state and SW.

It now comes down to SE and it's only SE that is coming up with all this SE/SS.

Why is SE so pained about alliance btw the North and West is the question that is begging for answers from reasonable ones among them?

It's a known fact that Igbo formed this same alliance with the same North twice, not once for God sake and nobody scream blue murder. Igbo did it in 60s and 70s without this victims and betrayal rhetorics coming from the rest of us in the South.

Why Nigeria state should be all about what Igbos could get of it without consideration of others; selfishness @ its peak. The same selfishness that led us to where we are today as a Nation. Is it the first coup? Brutal killing of leaders from other regions with total impunity? introduction of unitary system of govt which eventually destroyed our flourishing regional system of govt? or unprecedented nepotism and refusal to send the coupists on trial?

Rose2014:


Don't mind them. Yorubas see it as a battle btw them and SS/SE lmao instead of seeing beyond their nose

Their foolishness is about to be flogged

NewNigeriaMind:



Definition of betrayal according to my last gf: Betrayal is when your fucking boyfriend decides to make up with/engage in sexual acts with another girl after all the great things you've given, offered, bought, done to him, with the excuse of "wanting to get more experience", thus leaving you with a broken spirit and with a bunch of emotions of hatred, loss of self-respect, loss of self-confidence, loneliness and total fucking sadness.

The bolder part I understand that is how you all feel.

But I have a question, you didn't do this for the SW: great things you've given, offered, bought,

So why do you feel betrayed? How can you say someone betrayed you when the two of you don't even know each other

Jonathan said the SE are responsible for success (more like failure wouldn't you agree ) of his government. so please when did jonathan acknowledge the SW voted him in mass in 2011

And Yorubas betrayed the SS/SE hoping Buhari will die so what happened to Jonathan will repeat itself

That's the worst form of betrayal or u can call it deceit but I get news for u. The old man ain't going nowhere.
Bunch of chameleons

cutietokunbo:


Yorubas have always been an opposition party and for that reason alone, Yorubas have got nothing to fear.

Please, leave SS people out of this hatred equation and leave Ijaw people in that space. Like I have said on several occasions that there is nothing like SS when it's comes to SW or North cos each Nations within SS region has got well rooted ties with either SW or North region. Typical example of this is Edo state, Southern part of Delta state and SW.

It now comes down to SE and it's only SE that is coming up with all this SE/SS.

Why is SE so pained about alliance btw the North and West is the question that is begging for answers from reasonable ones among them?

It's a known fact that Igbo formed this same alliance with the same North twice, not once for God sake and nobody scream blue murder. Igbo did it in 60s and 70s without this victims and betrayal rhetorics coming from the rest of us in the South.

Why Nigeria state should be all about what Igbos could get of it without consideration of others; selfishness @ its peak. The same selfishness that led us to where we are today as a Nation. Is it the first coup? Brutal killing of leaders from other regions with total impunity? introduction of unitary system of govt which eventually destroyed our flourishing regional system of govt? or unprecedented nepotism and refusal to send the coupists on trial?

Impostors take your talk go town.

BlackTechnology:


Their foolishness is about to be flogged

atlwireles:



You have to try something better, than cry about the PIB. I hope PDP supports the north for both the speaker and senate president. Let's see who will be doing the crying in Nigeria. This election has done what nobody else would have been able to achieve in the SS. You people opened the eyes of the blind.

Perfect

One Orijin for you


SW treachery has opened the blind eyes of SS


Their proud boast of treachery is about to consume them

nelson4:
. Politics in Nigeria is not a winner takes it all game. Even when u win, u must find ways to reach out to the losers cause they could be important in time to come, this is the secret the so called illiterate north understands, how then do the so called most educated and wise SW doesnt understand this. When u call pple morons, its shows u have complex and pple with complex don't go far in life.

The ANSWER to your post is in this thread, start from the 1st page and tell me what you think

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

To borrow from the words a very bigoted Igbo MOD on this forum:
AFAM, you cannot eat your cake and have it

Rose2014:


And Yorubas betrayed the SS/SE hoping Buhari will die so what happened to Jonathan will repeat itself

That's the worst form of betrayal or u can call it deceit but I get news for u. The old man ain't going nowhere.
Bunch of chameleons

I asked a question,

What did jonathan or the SS/SE offered the SW to feel betrayed

NewNigeriaMind:


I asked a question,

What did jonathan or the SS/SE offered the SW to feel betrayed

What has buhari offered SW that they're having orgasm all over against the SS/SE? Just hoping he'll die cos of his age.smh

Anyway Buhari is kicking fine so your hope of clinching presidency is dashed, hence just make do with whatever crumb that falls off the table sweerie.

Rose2014:


What has buhari offered SW that they're having orgasm all over against the SS/SE? Just hoping he'll die cos of his age.smh

Anyway Buhari is kicking fine so your hope of clinching presidency is dashed, hence just make do with whatever crumb that falls off the table sweerie.

Buhari didn't offer us anything either apart from the promise of good governance which I am sure on a serious note is what all Nigerians care about from the North to the South . How ever we know getting good governance under Jonathan is wishful thinking as such we voted him out. so stop lamenting the SW betrayed anybody, cause we didn't have an agreement to start with.

NewNigeriaMind:


Buhari didn't offer us anything either apart from the promise of good governance which I am sure on a serious note is what all Nigerians care about from the North to the South . How ever we know getting good governance under Jonathan is wishful thinking as such we voted him out. so stop lamenting the SW betrayed anybody, cause we didn't have an agreement to start with.

Typical excuse betrayers give.

A girlfriend(once she starts cheating) will say to the boyfriend. 'I said yes to his proposal cos I didn't know u want to marry me. Age is not on my side'

Wrong move ko, reverse move ni.

Mr Jonathan aka Mandela of Otuoke and his bunch of sycophantic criminals he was calling aides were sacked and we are very happy with that.

Even God Almighty is happy because he does not back criminals.

Rose2014:


Typical excuse betrayers give.

A girlfriend(once she starts cheating) will say to the boyfriend. 'I said yes to his proposal cos I didn't know u want to marry me. Age is not on my side'

Guy you deserve Origin for this reply , but there is something you missed, the SW and the SS/SE were never in a relationship to start with.

Rather the SS allowed the SE to make the Jonathan presidency a SE government for the south east. Hence no good governance took place

NewNigeriaMind:


Let me indulge you a little

1 So assuming the north reach out to the SS/SE, the two will jump at it just to spite the SW?

2 Also, buy giving their ass to APC north to Bleep, what will the SE/SS gain from it?

3 When you say betray, please clarify this statement. who betrayed who and was there any agreement amongst the SS/SS and SW?

4 Why are you offering yourselves to the North on a platter of gold just to get back at the SW?

Now this is what I think?

I think the SS/SE are so desperate for power they will allow the North to use them to reduce south west infleucne while at the same time giving noting to the SS/SE. The SS/SE are suppose to lead the new opposition, but with the way things are going, these people may soon decamp to APC, cause those northerns are not coming to PDP.

so can we conclude that out of hate which is unjustified anyway the SS/SE will do all it can just to bring the SW down even if the north has nothing to offer them

If any of you Igbos come here to mention south solidarity or northern born to rule God will punish you all

These Igbos in the past four years monopolized Jonathan they forgot the SW, now they are shouting SW betrayed them. Na God go punish all of you

The funny thing is that the SS/SE leaders in PDP are already talking about a strong northern candidate for 2019. They didn't even consider any of themselves.

phyllosilicate:


The funny thing is that the SS/SE leaders in PDP are already talking about a strong northern candidate. They didn't even consider any of themselves.

There is no northern candidate that has the demi-god status of GMB in the north.

The Yorubas did not vote collectively but individually. OP, step up, your thread is wack.

phyllosilicate:


The funny thing is that the SS/SE leaders in PDP are already talking about a strong northern candidate. They didn't even consider any of themselves.

As in hen, I tire for them.

Now trust the VP will be from the SW cause their plan will be to split north vote and SW vote

The foot soldiers will come online to shout northern domination while their elders goes to suck northern leaders dicks.

I will begin to take these people serious if the PDP will present an IGBO man as pdp candidate in 2019

In fact, if PDP presents an Igbo man as candidate, I will trek to Anambra

NewNigeriaMind:


Na wa o!!!! see baba nla bigot claiming I am not a bigot

You said it yourself your leaders are waiting for either the south west to reach out or the north, and you went on to conclude quick that you expect the north to reach out first

Did you forget you wrote this part:

'The latest development is that the SS and SE ( PDP) are behind the north in this move thereby thwarting the efforts of the southwest. Having felt betrayed by the SW, the SE and SS ( PDP senators and house memebers) have moved to form an alliance with the northern APC caucus to produce the senate leader and speakership'.

Since you have already offered the north your asses to Bleep just to spite the SW,

How can you come here some few minutes later to say this

'What stops the SW( APC) from reaching out to PDP ( SS / SE) house members? Maybe their conscience judges them, the north understands this is politics nothing personal'

Just to see SW lose the speakership, your leaders will suck a Fulani man dick shame on you and your people

The south west never needed your support in the past, it doesn't need it now

My thread still stands based on new development and analysis, am not a bigot. Have lived in the north, east and west , am a core Nigerian, who appreciates the diverse attributes of each tribe.

This post is from 2011

Afam4eva:
You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center. states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized.

phyllosilicate:


The funny thing is that the SS/SE leaders in PDP are already talking about a strong northern candidate. They didn't even consider any of themselves.

U want them to chose a SS/SE candidate so u can repeat your betrayal like u did Jonathan. No way


South(both SS n SE) should just forget the presidency position for a long time. Thanks to Yorubas

NewNigeriaMind:


As in hen, I tire for them.

Now trust the VP will be from the SW cause their plan will be to split north vote and SW vote

The foot soldiers will come online to shout northern domination while their elders goes to suck northern leaders dicks.

I will begin to take these people serious if the PDP will present an IGBO man as pdp candidate in 2019

In fact, if PDP presents an Igbo man as candidate, I will trek to Anambra

Same thing with Yorubas.yorubas won't smell presidency either.
And stop hoping Buhari will die so u take over. He ain't going nowhere

NewNigeriaMind:


Guy you deserve Origin for this reply , but there is something you missed, the SW and the SS/SE were never in a relationship to start with.

Rather the SS allowed the SE to make the Jonathan presidency a SE government for the south east. Hence no good governance took place

Waiting for my orijin o


What SW doesn't understand now is that it'll be very difficult for any southerner(including SW) to smell presidency again in Nigeria given this so called 'no relationship' btw SW and SS/SE . U see it against Igbos but it's going to have an inverse effect on u whenever the opportunity calls. So in the end, the north remains the grand masters of the game cos they'll continue to use the south against each other

Rose2014:


Same thing with Yorubas.yorubas won't smell presidency either.
And stop hoping Buhari will die so u take over. He ain't going nowhere

I disagree, the Yoruba will get to presidency soon, in the next eight years Buhari will do is eight years, the APC will present a Yoruba and a SS candidate/North Centra Candidate. By then the pdp would have been long dead and buried. The nail in the coffin is getting deeper by the day go and ask Ayo Fayose and Mauzi

Rose2014:


And what did the SW get if I may ask? Just a silent VP position?

Jonathan knew VP is silent hence (though his VP is a northerner) he still gave the northerners other key positions to carry them along.

But SW is here having orgasm over VP and don't care if the north keeps the remaining positions. Smh

You guys don't get it and will probably never get it because you are motivated by "chop sand syndrome" and the vendetta-driven hatred of others that leaves you viewing politics as a tool of vengeance instead of activities associated with governance that delivers socio-economic development for a people.

Trust me when I say the Yorubas supported Buhari specifically because of what we feel he will make of the power he wields as President, after the SW gave GEJ a chance, and not because the expectation of political reward is uppermost in our mind. I know this is difficult for you to believe because you have been indoctrinated to always cast Yorubas as the "bogey men" who are up to no good. It is about time you grow up and reject the lies you are have been told about the Yorubas. Even Buhari called the SW the "home of democracy" ,after he thanked the region warmly for helping him win, because the truth most can accept is that the SW has paid its dues in the fight for democracy and the good governance of Nigeria. Let Buhari lead us well into an age of development and prosperity and this will be just reward for the efforts of the Yorubas to strengthen democracy and support good governance.

What I find amazing is that you guys are so focused on the ancient 'pass-me-down' hatred that dominates your life you cannot even see how the new generation of Yoruba leaders are thinking and planning. You only need to sit somewhere and think productively to note that the things that will make Nigeria a developed nation has everything to do with good governance and nothing to do with our kinsman being VP or Speaker. It is always about the right calibre of person being President, VP, Senate President, speaker et al otherwise those influential positions are totally useless to Nigeria and Nigerians. The Yorubas realize this yet when will you stop hating to see and face what is most important?

Rose2014:


Waiting for my orijin o


What SW doesn't understand now is that it'll be very difficult for any southerner(including SW) to smell presidency again in Nigeria given this so called 'no relationship' btw SW and SS/SE . U see it against Igbos but it's going to have an inverse effect on u whenever the opportunity calls. So in the end, the north remains the grand masters of the game cos they'll continue to use the south against each other

Sincerely I think the day the SW and SE unite will be the beginning of real development in Nigeria. The north knows this and that is why it continue to use our leaders to separate us

I prefer the SW working with the SE, but the SE and SS wasted the opportunity to build the southerner solidarity when they shut the SW out of Jonathan presidency. And Jona too bleeped up, it started with people telling him to cut OBJ to size, then the obvious marginalization of Yorubas.

Remember Tinubu worked for Jonathan in 2011 for the elections, why didn't Jonathan draw him closer to make him an ally.

See what is happening is not the SW fault.

But most importantly is the fact that the Jonathan Administration failed to deliver on his promises. An average Yoruba man wouldn't care where you come from as long as he knows you can deliver. why do you think the SW still align with TInubu as a leader. We know he is the best amongst is peers and we know he will deliver. See Ambode, the pressure on him to out perform Fashola will make you pity the man . The man knows his second term will be determined by one thing and one thing alone, performance. Even the Oba of Lagos said he has started praying for him to outperform fashola so that his stance on the election of Ambode would be justified. There are situations a leader will find himself that he has no choice but to perform.

phyllosilicate:


The funny thing is that the SS/SE leaders in PDP are already talking about a strong northern candidate. They didn't even consider any of themselves.

That's coz they are the real slaves. When they were in political alliance with the North in the past as junior partners, they didn't consider themselves 'slaves' to the Northerners then, but now Yorubas and the Northerners are in alliance and all of a sudden we are 'slaves'. Moronic Ode oshi gbogbo.

Nigeria will come to an end when and only when the SW says theyy are no longer interested that is the reality of Nigeria. We do not need to go to war for that
One yeye drunken fisherman from Otuoke wanted to rubbish us and now he knows .Blaming everyone but himself for his foolishness.
We wanted a unified South as president the ball was in hhi court to make that happen what did he do?

Who was the most senior person from SW in his government? He is on record as calling those that put him there names. What a parvenu

NewNigeriaMind:


Please ignore the morons, what will they gain in their attempt to spite the SW. The north will rather consolidate their power and share oil wells soons, trust me a lot of that is coming to south westerners inclusing Tinubu and Fashola.

For your information, what will APC north offer the SS/SE, to betray the South West

The south west will always be above these morons until they learn

The ss/SE will sit and be watching while Tinubu and Fashola get oil wells abi? lol are you sure the hand you used to point at others calling them morons isn't doing same times 3 back atchya?

are those two men brave enough to go to the location of those oil wells in the SS/SE to defend them "should in case"?

Think, man; think!

Gbawe:


You guys don't get it and will probably never get it because you are motivated by "chop sand syndrome" and the vendetta-driven hatred of others that leaves you viewing politics as a tool of vengeance instead of activities associated with governance that delivers socio-economic development for a people.

Trust me when I say the Yorubas supported Buhari specifically because of what we feel he will make of the power he wields as President, after the SW gave GEJ a chance, and not because the expectation of political reward is uppermost in our mind. I know this is difficult for you to believe because you have been indoctrinated to always cast Yorubas as the "bogey men" who are up to no good. It is about time you grow up and reject the lies you are have been told about the Yorubas. Even Buhari called the SW the "home of democracy" ,after he thanked the region warmly for helping him win, because the truth most can accept is that the SW has paid its dues in the fight for democracy and the good governance of Nigeria. Let Buhari lead us well into an age of development and prosperity and this will be just reward for the efforts of the Yorubas to strengthen democracy and support good governance.

What I find amazing is that you guys are so focused on the ancient 'pass-me-down' hatred that dominates your life you cannot even see how the new generation of Yoruba leaders are thinking and planning. You only need to sit somewhere and think productively to note that the things that will make Nigeria a developed nation has everything to do with good governance and nothing to do with our kinsman being VP or Speaker. It is always about the right calibre of person being President, VP, Senate President, speaker et al otherwise those influential positions are totally useless to Nigeria and Nigerians. The Yorubas realize this yet when will you stop hating to see and face what is most important?

You like to talk long talk,I always look for dis long talk on threads when Apc govt are oweing their workers,but ure always no where to be found.Why?

NewNigeriaMind:


Sincerely I think the day the SW and SE unite will be the beginning of real development in Nigeria. The north knows this and that is why it continue to use our leaders to separate us

I prefer the SW working with the SE, but the SE and SS wasted the opportunity to build the southerner solidarity when they shut the SW out of Jonathan presidency. And Jona too bleeped up, it started with people telling him to cut OBJ to size, then the obvious marginalization of Yorubas.

Remember Tinubu worked for Jonathan in 2011 for the elections, why didn't Jonathan draw him closer to make him an ally.

See what is happening is not the SW fault.

Forget it, SE and SW can't unite coz the SEners have a sick and in-bred hatred for Yorubas, and besides they are politically irrelevant in the overall scheme of things. I consider the North Central a more worthy alliance prospect.

PassingShot:
The same politics of bitterness and hatred that has brought them irrelevance in Nigerian politics is what they keep playing and canvassing for. And when the result of their naivety stares them in the face, they run around the world to cry marginalization, born to rule, and other nonsense.

O na eme, a hu ebe e bu ozu onye ozo, ya adi ka o wu igwu nkwu.

NewNigeriaMind:


I disagree, the Yoruba will get to presidency soon, in the next eight years Buhari will do is eight years, the APC will present a Yoruba and a SS candidate/North Centra Candidate. By then the pdp would have been long dead and buried. The nail in the coffin is getting deeper by the day go and ask Ayo Fayose and Mauzi

And u think SS/SE will embrace with open arms, a Yoruba presidential candidate presented by Buhari? Same man that his people vowed to make Jonathan's govt ungovernable and succeeded


Let me tell u what will happen. SS/SE will rather present a northern candidate n be his VP to make sure Yorubas don't get it. And don't think Buhari will leave his bro to support u