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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:15am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:

You are Americans, abi ?
South Africans.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:17am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:


Current force of SANDF has almost ZERO war experience, and your current war history is a blank empty page grin grin


Training > Experience.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:24am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:


Current force of SANDF has almost ZERO war experience, and your current war history is a blank empty page grin grin


Lesotho
DRC
Burundi
CAR.

so what do you say?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:32am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:


Good enough to wipe out SANDF. Your army has only a 38 km shell range. Any 39 cal Bofors will shoot to 30 km FACT !



Lies as always, SANDF artillery will crash beyond recognition. You have nothing to match it. A 39 cal cannot even shoot past 25km mark.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 9:39am On May 13, 2015
jln115:

Dude i fail to believe someone can be as r3tarded as this, Please tell me ,this has all been a joke all along!!!


Please explain the principle of "Hot air balloon"

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 9:42am On May 13, 2015
jln115:

Fvck!!!!You really are r#tarded!!

"the farther away you get from the earth, the thinner the atmosphere gets. The total heat content of a system is directly related to the amount of matter present, so it is cooler at higher elevations."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/if-heat-rises-why-does-th/

"Altitude is the height you are above sea level. The higher up you are the lower the temperature will be. This is because air that is higher up is less dense than it is at lower altitudes and air temperature depends on its density. As a general rule for every 1,000m higher you go the temperature will drop by 6.5 °C."
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Basic_Geography/Climate/Climate_Elements

"air at higher altitudes is less dense. Since fewer air molecules exist in a certain volume of air, there are fewer molecules colliding with each other, and as a result, there will be less heat produced. This means cooler air."
https://water.usgs.gov/edu/watercyclecondensation.html


Warm air, is denser or less dense?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:55am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:

Everything !
Most powerful economy in Africa Big GDP growth rate Mineral wealth Education Population/Market size Intelligence Creativity Global diplomatic clout and influence Total black control Black power Liberator of South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe Saviour of Liberia and Sierra Leone Courage to challenge America/Europe world powers Leadership clout in Africa War experience War victories Military respect worldwide Desired by Egypt Praised by Israel Very low foreign dollar debt Rapid inflow of industries abandoning South Africa All black leadership for half a century The most respected black nation on earth Giant of Africa etc....
Everything ! .

90% of what you have written is just wishes. Good luck in your dream land.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:03am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:
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[size=13pt]@Asuooka said Nigeria fought in the Angolan war against South Africa.

People from the Southie tail of Africa nation were arguing and disputing with him, despite his proof from sources posted here.

Well, now we have a current date May 2015 source from Nigerian air force chief of staff confirming Nigeria's military action in Angola against South Africa.

It's a pity how fellow African countries have all forgotten how Nigerian military saved them many times from the hands of death.

NAF Chief of staff, Marshal Amosu mentioned some of notable accomplishments of NAF as successful participation in the Civil War less than 3 years after its establishment; supporting Government Policy on apartheid as a frontline state by providing strategic airlift of arms and logistics supplies to Mozambique, Namibia, Angola and Zimbabwe;

http://prnigeria.com/2015/05/naf-acquires-sophisticated-craft-to-protect-nigeria/

All Africa, be grateful to Nigeria, ingratitude is a sin, learn to say thank you, and respect your big brother Naija

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The bloody coward Nigeria only featured when the South African military left Angola. What a shame!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:17am On May 13, 2015
The great master of Nigeria, Mr Barlows said his men physically fought on defeating Boko Haram.

I quote:
While the Nigerian government has insisted the South
Africans' role was mainly as "technical advisers", Barlow
suggested his men had been involved in direct combat.
Quote closed.


http://www.enca.com/africa/south-african-guns-hire-deployed-boko-haram-fight_uk-report
http://www.enca.com/africa/south-african-guns-hire-deployed-boko-haram-fight-uk-report


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:28am On May 13, 2015
jpphilips:



Please explain the principle of "Hot air balloon"
Bro! I'm not saying Cold air is less dens, I'm saying air at higher altitude is less dens ,this is a fact! Also the reason its colder at altitude is due to the air particles being so far from each other, thus it makes it much more difficult to retain heat.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:30am On May 13, 2015
jpphilips:



Warm air, is denser or less dense?
Read my sources, educate yourself!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:40am On May 13, 2015
jpphilips:



Warm air, is denser or less dense?

Comparing apples and shoe laces. You must take atmospheric pressure into account....you cant just say warm air/cold air if they are at different pressures. Warm air is less dense than cold air, AT THE SAME PRESSURE.

Example. The air you are currently breathing is warmer than air at 30 000 feet which a jet liner flies at. Does that mean a jet liner flies through denser air than that currently entering your nostrils? Why then do aircraft need to be pressurized? You think you would survive for more than 30 seconds trying to inhale the "denser, colder air" at 30 000 feet?

Basic science that anyone with a high school education would know. But i dont blame Agaugust for his lack of understanding. The likes of Henry120 will agree to whatever Agaugust says, they worship him like a god.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:55am On May 13, 2015
saengine:


Comparing apples and shoe laces. You must take atmospheric pressure into account....you cant just say warm air/cold air if they are at different pressures. Warm air is less dense than cold air, AT THE SAME PRESSURE.

Example. The air you are currently breathing is warmer than air at 30 000 feet which a jet liner flies at. Does that mean a jet liner flies through denser air than that currently entering your nostrils? Why then do aircraft need to be pressurized? You think you would survive for more than 30 seconds trying to inhale the "denser, colder air" at 30 000 feet?

Basic science that anyone with a high school education would know. But i dont blame Agaugust for his lack of understanding. The likes of Henry120 will agree to whatever Agaugust says, they worship him like a god.

These poorly educated Nigerians fail to use the word [size=20]"In a closed system, hot air is less denser than a cold air, hence in an open system like the atmosphere, it will always rise up and be neutralised".[/size]


A practical example would be that of a plane flying low. A jet flying at low altitude will experience more air friction and utilise more fuel than a jet flying up in the sky.

poorly educated Nigerians, with a poor education system.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:06am On May 13, 2015
The truth comes out bit by bit.


Gunships and fighters were operated by SA mercenaries in Boko Haram war.

Barlow finally confirmed what we have been telling these fools.


Read:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:15am On May 13, 2015
agaugust:
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Bwhahahahaha grin grin

This is hilarious !

I warned all Southies not to play this game with me again on this forum, because I used it to embarrass South African navy man @Andrewza who has been in Mandela's pooly trained navy for almost 10 years and still does not know Nigerian navy Lynx Mk.89 is a fully equipped anti-submarine warfare helicopter with factory built in hidden ASW sonar, radar, and torpedoes, I made a mockery of your SAN navy here on that hilarious day.

So your country does not know Nigeria has hidden anti-submarine capability in reserve? You would have come here and we sink all Mandela's bank loan submarines while you are still repaying the bank debt grin grin

Now go tell that Augustine on Beegegale that Nigerian navy has power to sink South African submarines in one day o !

"Lynx Mk 88: version for the Federal German navy similar to Lynx Mk 86; equipped with sonar; 19 built

Lynx Mk 89: version for Nigerian navy; equipped for ASW/SAR roles; three built"

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/lynx.php

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When did you embarrasse me?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:55pm On May 13, 2015

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:



Lesotho
DRC
Burundi
CAR.

so what do you say?

Lesotho was a coup plot drama, Nigerian police force can deal with, stopping riots from a coup is plot is police duty, it's not a war.

DRC Congo was a United Nations effort of military forces from many countries from all over the world doing the fighting.

Burundi was another small crisis, Nigerian police force with their helicopters, 14.5mm heavy machine guns, BTR-3 IFV can handle it well.

CAR Bangui was a 300 man 15 hour fight, and the worst escapology run away humiliation for South African army in it' history.

Current SANDF has ZERO war experience with IFVs, battle tanks, artillery, land based surveillance/spy equipment, etc

Nigerian army has both training + Experience combined, best performing army in the world 2105.

Even American army won't beat our 2015 war record.

Show us the current South African army in real war.....with 30,000 troops and heavy weapons !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:03pm On May 13, 2015
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SANDF massively robbed of heavy weapons in Burundi ! tongue tongue

MRAPs and Automatic Grenade Launchers looted from Army base by rebels tongue tongue


Burundi bungle leaves SANDF chiefs red-faced

October 31 2006 at 04:31am
By Karyn Maughan

South African National Defence Force troops were sent to Burundi to keep the peace - but it seems the poor management of equipment and the theft of South African weapons that land in rebel hands is fuelling the conflict.

Sources have confirmed that millions of rands worth of vehicles, guns, ammunition and bombs, and supplies worth over R27-million have vanished from the South African army base in Burundi over the last four years.

The missing vehicles are believed to include several Casspirs; a Mazda ambulance; Isuzu bakkies; one firefighting truck; Landrover Defenders; trucks; a water tanker; a Yamaha motorcycle; forklift trucks; Toyota Condor vans; several cars; a tractor; and a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter.

The Star has also established that among the weapons missing are 40 mortar bombs; 54 R-4 rifles; four R-5 rifles; a sniper rifle; two 12-gauge shotguns; eight machineguns; eight pistols; and 27 grenade launchers.

A 15 KVA generator is also understood to be missing.

While army authorities have previously blamed poor accounting practices for the losses, an investigation by The Star has found that on one occasion at least 50 missing SANDF mortar bombs - out of 80 bombs stolen using an army-owned Land-Rover - were found in a FNL Phalipe-Hutu rebel group camp in Kiriri, Burundi.

The FNL has been blamed for a series of mortar attacks on the Burundian capital, Bujumbura, in which at least 300 people are known to have died.

The Star has also learnt that a case of ammunition - part of a total 1,5-million SANDF-owned rounds that went missing in Burundi - was found in the possession of Burundian government forces in 2004.

As yet, the SANDF has failed to reveal how many millions of rands worth of weapons, vehicles and supplies it has lost to theft or mismanagement. Disturbingly, it seems the SANDF has no idea how many weapons are in its possession.

Now, following a scathing Auditor-General's report into the Department of Defence's "inadequate" and "deficient" accounting practices, the Democratic Alliance was due to ask the Defence Ministry in parliament today to address claims that about 70 army vehicles, over 110 weapons and items of equipment, and millions of rands worth of supplies have disappeared from the South African base in Burundi.

Minister of Defence Mosiuoa Lekota, who has admitted.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/burundi-bungle-leaves-sandf-chiefs-red-faced-1.300893#.VVNF99JViko

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:16pm On May 13, 2015
andrewza:


When did you embarrasse me?

Last year 2014.

You didn't know Nigerian navy Lynx ASW helicopter has radar hidden in the nose cone and sonar hidden in the cabin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:28pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:



Lies as always, SANDF artillery will crash beyond recognition. You have nothing to match it. A 39 cal cannot even shoot past 25km mark.

Hey dude, Nigerian Bofors 39 cal artillery range is 30 km BB shell. SANDF G-6 artillery range is 38 km BB shell.

A Nigerian army Palmaria will close that tiny 8km gap in 8 minutes, that's if at all we are so far from each other, armies fight close combat.

"The gun has a range of 30 km, it can fire 3 rounds within 13 s and a has sustained rate of fire of 8 rounds/minute."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/fh-77.htm

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 2:37pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:
The truth comes out bit by bit.


Gunships and fighters were operated by SA mercenaries in Boko Haram war.

Barlow finally confirmed what we have been telling these fools.


Read:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html
Sir Kay says:
May 10, 2015 at 8:31 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html

You all should read this asap
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Capt Tobias Wilcock says:
May 11, 2015 at 3:55 pm
OOOh ka hefi, Big Matter
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Eeben says:
May 11, 2015 at 4:18 pm
He lifted most of his report off the SOFREP website, added his imagination to it, credited someone as being a “co-founder” of Executive Outcomes (when in fact he wasn’t!!) and demoted me in the process. And then they wonder why no one wants to talk to them??
I am so sick of the laziness of some in the media! Yet these “journalists” taint the many good ones out there as they are too lazy to do even the most basic of research. I suspect some actually want us to write their media reports and simply allow them to get paid for it.
The same media that now wants to sing the NA’s praises is the same media that made use of every opportunity to belittle the NA. Sickening in my opinion.
Rgds,
Eeben


https://beegeagle./2015/05/08/proforce-defence-nigeria-configured-these-for-the-4-mechanised-brigade-nigerian-army-now-visibly-on-patrol-in-delta-state/#comments

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:38pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:
The great master of Nigeria, Mr Barlows said his men physically fought on defeating Boko Haram.

I quote:
While the Nigerian government has insisted the South
Africans' role was mainly as "technical advisers", Barlow
suggested his men had been involved in direct combat.
Quote closed.


http://www.enca.com/africa/south-african-guns-hire-deployed-boko-haram-fight_uk-report
http://www.enca.com/africa/south-african-guns-hire-deployed-boko-haram-fight-uk-report


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html

You are quoting the private imaginary assumptions of a British journalist whose British army failed against terrorists while Nigerian army succeeded.....envy is a problem for USA, UK, and France.....Nigeria succeeded while NATO failed in Afghanistan tongue tongue

Please quote the website of Col. Eben Barlow himself, and show us where he said his 5 man trainer team was firing bullets on Boko Haram on a battlefield as big as Scotland....show us.....also add their photos on battlefield, like these....
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:39pm On May 13, 2015
agaugust:


Hey dude, Nigerian Bofors 39 cal artillery range is 30 km BB shell. SANDF G-6 artillery range is 38 km BB shell.

A Nigerian army Palmaria will close that tiny 8km gap in 8 minutes, that's if at all we are so far from each other, armies fight close combat.

"The gun has a range of 30 km, it can fire 3 rounds within 13 s and a has sustained rate of fire of 8 rounds/minute."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/fh-77.htm

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There is no proof that Nigeria has a BB, the same way you say SANDF has no VLAP despite the fact that Denel is owned by SANDF in extension.


By the way SANDF guns with a BB record a range of over 39KM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:41pm On May 13, 2015
agaugust:


You are quoting the private imaginary assumptions of a British journalist whose British army failed against terrorists while Nigerian army succeeded.....envy is a problem for USA, UK, and France.....Nigeria succeeded while NATO failed in Afghanistan tongue tongue

Please quote the website of Col. Eben Barlow himself, and show us where he said his 5 man trainer team was firing bullets on Boko Haram on a battlefield as big as Scotland....show us.....also add their photos on battlefield, like these....
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Those are not assumptions. The words were taken from your master, Mr Barlow who was invited at the conference in Europe.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 2:42pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:
The great master of Nigeria, Mr Barlows said his men physically fought on defeating Boko Haram.

I quote:
While the Nigerian government has insisted the South
Africans' role was mainly as "technical advisers", Barlow
suggested his men had been involved in direct combat.
Quote closed.


http://www.enca.com/africa/south-african-guns-hire-deployed-boko-haram-fight_uk-report
http://www.enca.com/africa/south-african-guns-hire-deployed-boko-haram-fight-uk-report


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html

You may also want to read his blog and the comments.
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.uk/2015/04/feeding-narrative_25.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:47pm On May 13, 2015
rka1:


You may also want to read his blog and the comments.
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.uk/2015/04/feeding-narrative_25.html

That's unnecessary, Mr Barlow on international news admitted to have been directly involved in war by flying gunships and fighter jets, using an old tradition and art of bushmen and Khoisan, the craft that is still being used in SANDF by tracking the tracks of insurgents, gathering intelligence, etc.


A Southern African bushman. Very skilled!!!

Have trained SANDF including Mr Barlow

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:48pm On May 13, 2015
saengine:


Comparing apples and shoe laces. You must take atmospheric pressure into account....you cant just say warm air/cold air if they are at different pressures. Warm air is less dense than cold air, AT THE SAME PRESSURE.

Example. The air you are currently breathing is warmer than air at 30 000 feet which a jet liner flies at. Does that mean a jet liner flies through denser air than that currently entering your nostrils? Why then do aircraft need to be pressurized? You think you would survive for more than 30 seconds trying to inhale the "denser, colder air" at 30 000 feet?

Basic science that anyone with a high school education would know. But i dont blame Agaugust for his lack of understanding. The likes of Henry120 will agree to whatever Agaugust says, they worship him like a god.

god ? We christians don't believe in gods, we believe in God almighty.

All we know is South Africans worship Mandela like your god.

The air argument is about freezing cold air in snow covered top of mountain Himalayas where the Bofors artillery was fighting. That is not ordinary high altitude in just any city of the world, we were talking about snow covered mountain top where the air is at freezing icy temperatures, and it is denser than any air you have in a normal world.

I proved that with a source from American weather scientists, nothing can beat their professionalism, they have concluded in agreement with my statement.

Keep sulking, does not change the experts report.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 2:50pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:


That's unnecessary, Mr Barlow on international news admitted to have been directly involved in war by flying gunships and fighter jets, using an old tradition and art of bushmen and Khoisan, the craft that is still being used in SANDF by tracking the tracks of insurgents, gathering intelligence, etc.
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Eeben says:
May 11, 2015 at 4:57 pm
He contacted me on Twitter and I told him to speak to the NA. I have been emphatic that any victories by the NA were NA victories and not STTEPs. He, as many other journos, do not want to give the NA any credit.
I have asked the question to them why they do not investigate the “training” the NA got from the other foreign trainers for several years and why that training was so ineffective. It seems this is something they desperately wish to avoid.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:53pm On May 13, 2015
rka1:


Sir Kay says:
May 10, 2015 at 8:31 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html



Eeben says:
May 11, 2015 at 4:18 pm

He lifted most of his report off the SOFREP website, added his imagination to it, credited someone as being a “co-founder” of Executive Outcomes (when in fact he wasn’t!!) and demoted me in the process. And then they wonder why no one wants to talk to them??

I am so sick of the laziness of some in the media! Yet these “journalists” taint the many good ones out there as they are too lazy to do even the most basic of research. I suspect some actually want us to write their media reports and simply allow them to get paid for it.

The same media that now wants to sing the NA’s praises is the same media that made use of every opportunity to belittle the NA. Sickening in my opinion.

Rgds,
Eeben



https://beegeagle./2015/05/08/proforce-defence-nigeria-configured-these-for-the-4-mechanised-brigade-nigerian-army-now-visibly-on-patrol-in-delta-state/#comments


End of discussion ! God bless you bros!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 2:57pm On May 13, 2015
agaugust:



End of discussion ! God bless you bros!
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No problem Bros. These Southies are too thick to understand what is happening.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:57pm On May 13, 2015
agaugust:



End of discussion ! God bless you bros!
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Eben with his mouth, confessed that they flew NAF gunships and helicopters, transporting the strike force. They used gunships to attack, they tracked and attacked the enermy in a warzone. Is that not enough to prove to you that he was directly involved.


Your new master, Mr Barlow.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 3:01pm On May 13, 2015
mzilakazi:



Eben with his mouth, confessed that they flew NAF gunships and helicopters, transporting the strike force. They used gunships to attack, the tracked the enermy and attacked the enermy I'm warzone. Is that not enough to prove to you that he was directly involved.


Your new master, Mr Barlow.
Eeben says:
May 11, 2015 at 4:18 pm

He lifted most of his report off the SOFREP website, added his imagination to it, credited someone as being a “co-founder” of Executive Outcomes (when in fact he wasn’t!!) and demoted me in the process. And then they wonder why no one wants to talk to them??

I am so sick of the laziness of some in the media! Yet these “journalists” taint the many good ones out there as they are too lazy to do even the most basic of research. I suspect some actually want us to write their media reports and simply allow them to get paid for it.

The same media that now wants to sing the NA’s praises is the same media that made use of every opportunity to belittle the NA. Sickening in my opinion.

Rgds,
Eeben

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