JigsawKillah:


Really? Did you and Dayo not say Mou didn't turn them to winners? And did Mou not add to depth of the squad?

The core of Mou's league winning team didn't belong to him. The rest is country grammar! I brought that up because of your argument about Ancelotti and Pellegrini. You can't downgrade their achievement and elevate Mou's

JigsawKillah:

Eto was just a striker under Messi when Mou signed him whereas the Pillar of the whole Internazionale rested on the shoulders of IBRA. and because he didn't make it to a UCL semi, he is below par? Delima went there too abi?

"Just a striker under Messi" A striker that finished with 36 goals is just a striker under Messi?
Eto'o - 36
Messi -38

Is that the striker you are dismissing with the wave of a hand? Forget Ibra he.achieved nothing with Inter and achieved nothing after he left. De Lima is beyond Ibra's level not even close

JigsawKillah:

with your logic, they are better because they went to a final Pep didn't go to

B.S! Pep has the C.V to compare with Mou neither Allegri or Enrique have the resume to compare

bigkesh:
Po what? That dude and Gotze should be beefing each other over the most overrated young player Award ...... Loftus has no reason no to be better than Pogba.....

If this is what it takes to be overrated. Winning World Cups and getting to Champions League Final at 22 I would rather be overrated then being a local champion like Hazard

A40:

If this is what it takes to be overrated. Winning World Cups and getting to Champions League Final at 22 I would rather be overrated then being a local champion like Hazard

biscuit arguments arent my type

bigkesh:
biscuit arguments arent my type

We know dancing shoki is your type. So keep dancing shoki when football afficionados are discussing the game

A40:

If this is what it takes to be overrated. Winning World Cups and getting to Champions League Final at 22 I would rather be overrated then being a local champion like Hazard

So a player reaching a final is now a base for judging a players performance??.... B4 you forget, Vermaleen will get (If Barca wins) the UCL medal without stepping a foot on the for a second.

Remember Valdes getting a world cup winners medal without entering the filed of play.......




Bro... If a player is OVERRATED, then that PLAYER IS OVERRATED QED regardless of the teams position......



Chikina













You hate MOU........ We love HIM
You hate HAARD..... We love HIM

Hasn't it gotten down to you that we don't care about what you like or hate in our darling club??........

#SuccessTheySayHaveManyEnemies

Keky:
Pep: 6 years as a Manager, 20 trophies (added this season's Bundesliga already)... A stat rent boys pretend they don't see.

Pep has achieved the most in the shortest period,if you say it's cos he had Messi,will remind you Mou has spent over £1bn on transfers. And to even counter the Messi- advantage for Pep, Mou too had CR7 for 3 seasons, and spent over £1bn on transfers as a manager.

So Mou has even spent more money on buying expensive players than SAF that had almost 30 yrs coaching experience ...hmmm .

One good thing about Pep's career so far is, his achievements some how has everything to make Mou's greatness look very exaggerated ..lol

If u say "no of yrs/no of trophies won" Pep has a higher ratio, head to head battle, Pep wins..Money spent to achieve,Mou spent way more.

Maybe Pep should just die on the cross like Jesus before they know he's good, 6 trophies in 2 seasons for Bayern & they say
it's disastrous.

you keep discussing about others, failure how many trophys have wenger won in the last 6 yrs

SailorXY:


It's not as bad as you sound. there are no pacey players in our middle - just an injection of pace.

Chelsea City Arsenal Liverpool played in Europe, how many received basketball figures? they have all played United this season & I'm struggling to see the basketball scores. besides, don't forget we have the experience, its not like we some newbies

That was on the lighter note anyway.

Weldone Hazard

philfearon:

Go on boy,keep whining about with your comedian wannabe mediocre magnified inferiority complex that is reminiscent of your kind!!
N:B-am still watching!

Another show of emptiness from the DOT!

Keky:
Pep: 6 years as a Manager, 20 trophies (added this season's Bundesliga already)... A stat rent boys pretend they don't see.

Pep has achieved the most in the shortest period,if you say it's cos he had Messi,will remind you Mou has spent over £1bn on transfers. And to even counter the Messi- advantage for Pep, Mou too had CR7 for 3 seasons, and spent over £1bn on transfers as a manager.

So Mou has even spent more money on buying expensive players than SAF that had almost 30 yrs coaching experience ...hmmm .

One good thing about Pep's career so far is, his achievements some how has everything to make Mou's greatness look very exaggerated ..lol

If u say "no of yrs/no of trophies won" Pep has a higher ratio, head to head battle, Pep wins..Money spent to achieve,Mou spent way more.

Maybe Pep should just die on the cross like Jesus before they know he's good, 6 trophies in 2 seasons for Bayern & they say
it's disastrous.

Pep coached barca and bayern, look at what Luis Enrique is doing at barca, he failed in Roma...barca as a club look like culture/tradition as far as you understand the system( grow there as a player and coach) coupled star players you will succeed...I hope you know how much Suarez and neymar were bought, how much messi earn on weekly basis...look at pep now he can only win bayern liga with all the stars he has to even think bayern were champion with six trophies before he was signed.
Mou>> pep anytime, any day. Except you are not been objective...deep down your heart you know this fact.
Mou won with Porto both ucl and Europa, he won with inter that were very poor in europe(ucl) at that time.
Do you know that Pep is very poor at signing players why? The two clubs he has coach always do the signing of players for him, the ones he signed always end up not performing to expectation. E.g sold kroose signed Tiago alcantara....pep is just like a child born with sylva spoon everything is already there for him to succeed in life it now depend on him if he can make use of them which he made use of at barca..pep only has one tactic (ball possession game and high line defense which he learnt from barca) but he forgot football clubs, leagues and their players are different..
Any big club that has messi is guaranteed of ucl. Pep didn't bring up messi, everybody already know messi is a great player except you didn't see him play before guardiola came.
My advice to people like you; be a football fan first before been a club fan, by doing that you will understand the game better.

A40:

If this is what it takes to be overrated. Winning World Cups and getting to Champions League Final at 22 I would rather be overrated then being a local champion like Hazard

please cfc fan ignore this guy, he is a butt hu.rt anti chelsea...people like this guy are plastic fan, his sole reason of supporting club with big history is to spite club fan with history, present and future...they always think they know it all in football since they support big club whereas clubs like MK dons have fan that doesn't imply you have football knowledge than them because they watch other club game too with neutral mind not sentiment like you.
Last time I check team win trophy not individual reason iniesta and Pepe reina have equal World Cup medal, Same reason there are individual award like balon de or, golden boot, best defender, best midfielder, best player in a tournament or league.
How can somebody with common sense compare john terry and boateng indivdually or because gotze scored wc final goal when he was not even first 11 in the team. A players consistency is what make him a great player not one wonder in a match. Ok will you consider charisteas who scored Greece only against Portugal in Europe 2004 final a great player Huh.
Ribery won six trophies while cr7 went trophyless with Real Madrid but the later was given world best award.
My advice to you; be a football fan first before been a club fan by doing that you will understand the game.

A player like pique are not really a quality defender but the team system( barca ball possession game) covers his flaws, boateng is good but terry, Puyol, zanetti, maldini, lahm, Cafu are quality defenders , aside defending they have other qualities like leadership in the field of play, scoring( either set pieces or open play).

philfearon:

This is the reason why I say most Chelsea fans suffer from inferiority complex...
When u consider the fact that of all the present EPL teams,that only Arsenal have not suffered relegation, it makes all the crap and bs u wrote up there assume its inherent ignorance!!
You guys should just stop exposing your ignorance in public 4 sanity sake!"...
Where is Leeds United?
where is Nothinham Forest?
Are they not European cup winners? are they not broke? Look at Newcastle and Aston Villa today? Are they not a mediocre of their previous self?
Yet u open your browser to post the crap u posted above!

Sharraaaaap dere We all know you with ur oversized inferiority complex so save ur self the embarrassment.
E-eeediots like yourself always try to feel important by typing senseless words always. Truth be told,your folly is in trying to sound knowleageable and smart at the same time when all you do is follow follow We know dodoyoOkponu to be a methuselah when it comes to okpata yans especially as it concerns chelsea. At least we can vouch for dodoyoOkponu's specialty,skillsets and personality. As for you..... wetin u be self What do u stand for asides follow follow? Anyways,One thing I have bin able to confirm aspa you as a person is you have always failed in everything you try to do in life. Boy aren't you the FAILURE itself ? Abi,how else can one explain your struggles to sound intelligent and NL Barkaa-Royal all the time? Chaii how time has changed Even slaves wan carry shoulder like their oga
See I have noticed with delight that you are watching Pls continue watching o....! afterall am having a 3some with ur mama and yah gurlfriend Bloody mumuric Muntula

Na wa oh!
I thought this argument of any tom, dicck and harry can manage Barça died long time ago?
So because barcelona are back in the final, you people have come back with this useless theory?

Was it not in our very own presence that Barca went trophyless last season and were trashed 7-0 in 2013?

Ibime has been shouting that Enrique was a failure in Roma and Celta Vigo -
Roma was his 1st senior team job, and the senior players like Totti did not allow him do his job well, even at that, his team played the most attractive football in Italy at that period!

Celta Vigo - He took a team that ended 17th on the table the season before and took them to 9th position! he even defeated Madrid and Barcelona in that season, and his team produced la liga breakout player of the year - Rafinha!
Is this Failure?

He took Barcelona B team from that war-like spanish 3rd division to 2nd division and he made them to qualify for the main division, but la liga rules stopped them from playing in the main division!
Does this look like failure?

hensben:
A player like pique are not really a quality defender but the team system( barca ball possession game) covers his flaws, boateng is good but terry, Puyol, zanetti, maldini, lahm, Cafu are quality defenders , aside defending they have other qualities like leadership in the field of play, scoring( either set pieces or open play).

I'm saying this for the 2nd time on this thread, if Chelsea had pique in their match against PSG, they would have qualified for the next round!

If any system covers defenders flaws, it should be Chelsea system! Or don't you know that it's easier for a defender to play in a parking the bus system than for a defender to play in a high defense line system?

One of the main reasons Barcelona have gone far this season is because many people underrated their defenders!

We gree ooooooooooooooooooo...! Pep best coach in the world. Barkaa best club in the world. Are you now satisfied?
now kindly go back to your thread. Thank you.

homesteady:


I'm saying this for the 2nd time on this thread, if Chelsea had pique in their match against PSG, they would have qualified for the next round!

If any system covers defenders flaws, it should be Chelsea system! Or don't you know that it's easier for a defender to play in a parking the bus system than for a defender to play in a high defense line system?

One of the main reasons Barcelona have gone far this season is because many people underrated their defenders!

Joke of the year and its on you

diggz:


Joke of the year and its on you

If Chelsea are to play against PSG next season, I hope they invite Piqué to tutor them on how to defend set pieces against PSG!

homesteady:


If Chelsea are to play against PSG next season, I hope they invite Piqué to tutor them on how to defend set pieces against PSG!

U are a clown and a serious wannabe. Not to worry I know ur mentor is dodoyoOkponu dk

homesteady:


I'm saying this for the 2nd time on this thread, if Chelsea had pique in their match against PSG, they would have qualified for the next round!

If any system covers defenders flaws, it should be Chelsea system! Or don't you know that it's easier for a defender to play in a parking the bus system than for a defender to play in a high defense line system?

One of the main reasons Barcelona have gone far this season is because many people underrated their defenders!

That's not true, in ball possession game the defenders are always involve in the play instead of chasing opponent left right Corner so they are rarely tested defensively in a match reason barca suffered set pice and corners when Puyol retired and abidal was hospitalized..pique is average at defending..Puyol, abidal and Marques were great high line or no high line ..I support barca in Spanish league, a strong follower of barca so I know what I'm saying....I respect terry, lahm, maldini, Puyol, Cafu due to their defending skills and also their leadership, the way they throw themselves to every ball coming their way. Pique is a lazy defender, he can't withstand pressure from opponent attack considering its once in a while he encounter such in a match...midfield and wingers join in defending when opponent attack them in every club not only chelsea maybe they(chelsea FC) do it most due to tactical reason.. Chelsea have more goals than arsenal that play ball possession game.

hensben:
That's not true, in ball possession game the defenders are always involve in the play instead of chasing opponent left right Corner so they are rarely tested defensively in a match reason barca suffered set pice and corners when Puyol retired and abidal was hospitalized..pique is average at defending..Puyol, abidal and Marques were great high line or no high line ..I support barca in Spanish league, a strong follower of barca so I know what I'm saying....I respect terry, lahm, maldini, Puyol, Cafu due to their defending skills and also their leadership, the way they throw themselves to every ball coming their way. Pique is a lazy defender, he can't withstand pressure from opponent attack considering its once in a while he encounter such in a match...midfield and wingers join in defending when opponent attack them in every club not only chelsea.

Why are you trying to argue what is a known fact? High line defense is more difficult for defenders!
Why is everybody blaming Pep high defense line for bayern loss against Barcelona?

When Chelsea want to play an attacking team, why does Mourinho plays with about 5-7 defense minded players? The only time he tried to play with his normal defense line, Tottenham raped them and they were not even using a high defense line oh!

Piqué has won best defender in la liga, he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year many times! Does this look like an average defender?
having one bad season does not mean he is average!

homesteady:


Why are you trying to argue what is a known fact? High line defense is more difficult for defenders!
Why is everybody blaming Pep high defense line for bayern loss against Barcelona?

When Chelsea want to play an attacking team, why does Mourinho plays with about 5-7 defense minded players? The only time he tried to play with his normal defense line, Tottenham raped them and they were not even using a high defense line oh!

Piqué has won best defender in la liga, he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year many times! Does this look like an average defender?
having one bad season does not mean he is average!

Yeah let me say he good due to barca system and considering he won la liga best defender And if you read my post very well I said he is average at DEFENDING. Puyol, abidal Marques were fantastic at high line defense to tell you their quality at defending and how they absorb pressure..do you know that possession game is way of defending too(I.e, not allowing your opponent to see the ball by tossing it around and it take a group of players that was grown in same academy to do it perfectly like barca) same thing pep is trying to do with bayern forgetting most players there are not used to it.
The disadvantage of such players is that they can hardly succeed alone when they change club, they hardly become best when they change club except messi who is extraordinary player...I can tell you bosquet, Xavi and iniesta will become ordinary player if they play in different clubs...okay let's see what Spanish team can do in the next tournament now that there is no Xavi and iniesta is on a decline, it happened before when The likes of hierro, Raul, morientes played in different clubs they couldn't achieve anything for Spain.

hensben:
Yeah let me say he good due to barca system and considering he won la liga best defender but Puyol, abidal were fantastic at high line defense to tell you their quality at defending and how they absorb pressure..do you know that possession game is way of defending too(I.e, not allowing your opponent to see the ball by tossing it around and it take a group of players that was grown in same academy to do it perfectly like barca) same thing pep is trying to do with bayern forgetting most players there are not used to it.

So Piqué is good because of Barcelona system? can't the same be said for Abidal and Puyol? was it not the same system they were playing in?

BTW I don't even understand your Abidal comparison, he was a left back!

homesteady:


Why are you trying to argue what is a known fact? High line defense is more difficult for defenders!
Why is everybody blaming Pep high defense line for bayern loss against Barcelona?

When Chelsea want to play an attacking team, why does Mourinho plays with about 5-7 defense minded players? The only time he tried to play with his normal defense line, Tottenham raped them and they were not even using a high defense line oh!

Piqué has won best defender in la liga, he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year many times! Does this look like an average defender?
having one bad season does not mean he is average!

Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

homesteady:


So Piqué is good because of Barcelona system? can't the same be said for Abidal and Puyol? was it not the same system they were playing in?

BTW I don't even understand your Abidal comparison, he was a left back!

Go read my post again I edited it.

hensben:

The disadvantage of such players is that they can hardly succeed alone when they change club, they hardly become best when they change club except messi who is extraordinary player ...I can tell you bosquet, Xavi and iniesta will become ordinary player if they play in different clubs.. .okay let's see what Spanish team can do in the next tournament now that there is no Xavi and iniesta is on a decline, it happened before when The likes of hierro, Raul, morientes played in different clubs they couldn't achieve anything for Spain.

Ahhh, I've been wasting my time all this while
Can you read the bolded again and laugh at yourself!

homesteady:


Ahhh, I've been wasting my time all this while
Can you read the bolded again and laugh at yourself!

You will not understand because you watch football with sentiment,( i.e since I don't like a particular club anything from there can never be better than my favorites). Try to watch the game with neutral mind, those guys succeeded because they came out from same academy of course they are fantastic players collectively...about pique, Puyol and abidal; they are not the same, while Puyol and abidal absorbed opponent pressure defensively pique can't, he is only good at possessing the ball with the midfielders and keeper which Puyol and abidal were also perfect at...go read my post again from the beginning.
You think you know football, Who made you a football analytical genius Huh, wasting your time? you that said boateng is better than terry because he hold a particular medal which the later doesn't have? Lol...abidal was been used as LB and CB.

I hear that Mourinho has sent Chelsea scouts to inquire about that ball boy's availability.

homesteady:
Na wa oh!
Ibime has been shouting that Enrique was a failure in Roma and Celta Vigo -
Roma was his 1st senior team job, and the senior players like Totti did not allow him do his job well, even at that, his team played the most attractive football in Italy at that period!

I never mentioned Celta Vigo. Liar. Who cares what he does in Celta Vigo? Do you care what Sam Allardyce does at West Ham? Comot make I see road jor.

He was a failure @ ROMA full stop. He does not manage players well and flopped badly at Roma. They replaced him as coach and went from failures to 2nd position on the table.

Did Messi not almost chase Enrique out of Barca in November? Enrique is a dead man walking at Barca. The senior players nearly got him sacked that weekend, and will likely get him sacked at season end.

A failure in other clubs already outperforming Pep at Barca. A dead man even managed Barcelona to title through SKYPE from his hospital bed in New York.

Yet a dead man sent Mourinho out of Spain trophyless

A rookie won the CL for chelsea yet Mourinho can't even make it past 10 men ordinary Psg

raumdeuter:
Yet a dead man sent Mourinho out of Spain trophyless

A rookie won the CL for chelsea yet Mourinho can't even make it past 10 men ordinary Psg

So you mean despite having a squad of over 500 million Euros, Mourinho couldn't compete with an hospitalized coach?

hensben:
You will not understand because you watch football with sentiment,( i.e since I don't like a particular club anything from there can never be better than my favorites). Try to watch the game with neutral mind, those guys succeeded because they came out from same academy of course they are fantastic players collectively...about pique, Puyol and abidal; they are not the same, while Puyol and abidal absorbed opponent pressure defensively pique can't, he is only good at possessing the ball with the midfielders and keeper which Puyol and abidal were also perfect at...go read my post again from the beginning.
You think you know football, Who made you a football analytical genius Huh, wasting your time? you that said boateng is better than terry because he hold a particular medal which the later doesn't have? Lol...abidal was been used as LB and CB.

Don't you ever get tired of this your 'you watch football with sentiment' line? I've never seen you arguing football issues without using this line
Anybody that has a contrary opinion to yours automatically becomes one of the people who watch football with sentiment!

How will you say that the best passer of this generation won't succeed in any team? even when age was catching up with him, the best passer in your team (Fabregas) couldn't displace him from the 1st 11!

Can you please stop this pique argument please? it doesn't make any sense! did Piqué win best defender over Abidal for just possessing the ball? Did Piqué appear in world best 11 for about 3 times for just possessing the ball?