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Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by LeSudAfricaine: 5:37pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24:Well, the first one and the most persistant, that South Africans are jealous of Nigerians, that's a lot of cardboard BS! |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 6:40pm On May 14, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine: You are either playing D.U.M.B or are one of those naïve type Black South Africans who works for Tiger brands and spends his weekends working out at the Virgin Active gym on William Nicol drive or maybe you are hidden away in one of those suburbs in Midrand or Pretoria east. It is well known that for years Nigerians(specifically my flashy Igbo brothers) used to send Taxis to the Townships on weekends to pickup your girls and take them on shopping sprees, When the girls return and begin to lament about how their "Nigerian boyfriends" take care of them compared to their South African men who usually get them pregnant and disown the child, the men do not take these sentiments lightly. Johanesburgs CBD has a lot of loitering jobless men from Alexandria, Diepsloot and other so called "slums". They also envy a lot of the Nigerians who are able to set up mechanic shops, restuarants, food shops and clubs in and around CBD, Yeoville and the likes. They are the only "Africans" that I have observed who chastise and look down upon their women for dating and marrying other black African men. It is so bad that South African women married to Nigerian men had to form an organization just to protect themselves from discrimination from their own. UNITED NIGERIAN WIVES OF SOUTH AFRICA Please let us be real here. Your people have a problem they need to face. PS please view the video attachment earlier and listen to your former first ladies comments... starting form 58: mins or simply gloss through comments on this facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/United-nigerian-wives-in-south-africa/496395100396563 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by Nobody: 6:44pm On May 14, 2015 |
shadowhunter15: Naturally, i would have ignored your comment which is premised on ignorance but for the purpose of education which is what this forum is also all about, i therefore refer you to the link below for further education/information about the connection of racism in Freddie Gray's death in Baltimore MD. You don’t have to be White to become a racist. http://uproxx.com/smokingsection/2015/05/baltimore-officers-were-black-but-this-is-still-a-racial-issue/ 1 Like |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 7:12pm On May 14, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine: Please read the signage of the little girl in that picture. No where else in Africa have I ever seen a girl having to raise such a sign up. Not Ghana, Not Ivory Coast, no Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Tanzania, Kenya......and they know us far better than you do. Like I said let us show all realities of South Africa and not the ones that just make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside. 1 Like 2 Shares
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Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by MduZA: 7:16pm On May 14, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine: there is no such thing,this guy is dreaming as usual...these guys enjoy beating their chests about rubbish...no organized business will ever succeed in front of a hostel except barber shops and shoe repairing ..besides why Nigerians are parading their fleshy cars in front of hostels...why dont they parade them in the suburbs? |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 7:25pm On May 14, 2015 |
MduZA: Yes that is why your Former first lady agrees with me in her comment in the attached below Please if anyone else wants to confirm what I said simply click on the video and listen to Graca machal comments starting from 58 mins: I don't have time for people who want to block the truth out of sentimentality. [flash=400, 300] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-36NM52ihyg[/flash 1 Like |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by MduZA: 7:49pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: so Nigerians are parading flashy cars in front of hungry people?...My man this thing of you coming to SA and locked yourself inside a flat in hilbrow made you clueless about SA and her people...your E class Mercedes can even be owned by people who dwell in rural areas... Its even embarrassing for me to engage about this nonsense...its like this Nigerian thing of competing about joysticks.. |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by Fulaman198(m): 7:52pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: I definitely will |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 7:53pm On May 14, 2015 |
MduZA: You simply are clueless about what I am referring to so please don't attempt to comment. You didn't even get the context of the mention of a "2005 E class Mercedes." Please slow down read the comment and comprehend within its context.... Shikena! |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by DieVluit: 7:59pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: There's only ONE EXCUSE that's fact and it's about Nigerians: They sell drugs and they are pimps. Not "foreigners", but Nigerians. Everything else is irrelevant. End of story. Even this thread is full of typical Nigerian thinking like "does marrying a South African woman help me get papers". That alone tell you what we are dealing with - people that would do anything for money, even if it means marrying a woman they don't love. This also tells us how much a failure Nigeria is - for young men to be so desperate that they consider marrying a woman just for papers. You are a failed immigrant, my friend. South Africa burned you and you can't get over it. You know nothing about South Africa even if you have lived in it. You failed to integrate and now you think South Africans owe you something. As an immigrant, it was up to you to do the work that would help you integrate. But you failed to and you ended up on the fringes of South African society. Now, you are bitter. 4 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by pat077: 8:05pm On May 14, 2015 |
ucheokpara100:don't they have hostel? I believe that shld b cheaper. |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by DieVluit: 8:12pm On May 14, 2015 |
justwise: You say that as if it's definitive. The situation is complex and summarising it in one line is lunacy. There was definitely a scab labour issue as well, which contributed to the violence. So, the jobs and immigration status issue is intertwined. Also labour related violence is not a new thing in South Africa. Marikana being an example. Fact is foreigners are driven only by their own individual desires for progress. They don't care about any other interest - historical or otherwise. Their failure to study South African society is to their own peril. http://www.afp.com/en/news/safrica-strike-season-looms-after-attacks-migrant-workers "President Jacob Zuma himself has blamed last month's xenophobic unrest on an u[b]nnamed employer in the eastern city of Durban who replaced South African workers with migrants.[/b] In the weeks that followed, at least seven people were killed as mobs hunted down migrants from Zimbabwe, Mozambique and other African countries, forcing hundreds of terrified families to abandon their homes and seek safety in camps. The attacks "were sparked off by the conduct of an employer who fired South African workers who had gone on strike and employed workers from outside the country," Zuma said. "Cosatu has observed employers under-employing migrant workers -- especially in the farming, retail and hospitality sectors. South Africa is complex and only a handful immigrants have grasped it. Typically, SADC immigrants are closer to the pulse. Nigerians have no hope in hell of understanding South Africa nor do they have a desire to contribute. They are in it for themselves. Hence the type of activities they are involved in. |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by chineloSA(f): 8:19pm On May 14, 2015 |
ucheokpara100: Nna God bless you in abundance. You put the dude in his place. |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 8:19pm On May 14, 2015 |
DieVluit: Simpleton. You want to figure out the psychology of my madness huh? It is far from being a so called failed Immigrant. I have so many in and out stamps from your country it even bewilders the immigration officers as to why A Nigerian like myself can afford to travel so frequently and isn't running away from his country. I leave you to continue in desperation to figure that out. On your so called point of marriage. Your fellow White South Afrikaaners in New Zealand, Australia and the UK do it. You should be scolding them for engaging in such fraudulent acts. Even a good number of your black south Africans specifically in Washington Dc engage in such acts, I even know one who married a lesbian just to get papers. Should I send you his email so you can scold him as well. bad bad body he is. LESSON ON IMMIGRATION 101 The immigration officials in most countries are not stupid, They know there will be immigrants coming into a country to try to integrate into the society. Marriage is the strongest tie of any one to a community or a land. The immigrant has children and is forced to settle and will inevitably be responsible for providing for his family and indirectly contributing to the economy of the country. It will more difficult for him to reap the benefits of his host country and repatriate his money back home if he is tied down. Please MR racist Zulu boy, take that mind set back to the bundus in Kwazulu natal. Can we keep to the topic. Let us please show the good and bad side of the country so that my people know what they are getting into. In any case I am actually helping your course by showing this side of SA, it will discourage some from "flooding" into your shores. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by johnsonsegxy: 8:21pm On May 14, 2015 |
themilanway: Hahaha, this got me laughing hard man |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by LeSudAfricaine: 8:21pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24:you mean the negative side you're so obsessed with? 1 Like |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 8:23pm On May 14, 2015 |
DieVluit: Yes we have no clue of the pull between Labour and the private sector in South African politics. THe history of communist and socialist parties in SA and how this has shaped the labour movements in your country or the frequent culture of toyi toying and violence inherited from the Apatheid era. Nigerians are so clueless 2 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by themilanway(m): 8:24pm On May 14, 2015 |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 8:27pm On May 14, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine: Morpheus philosophy 101 "You do not truly know someone's limitations until you fight them" 2 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by DieVluit: 8:28pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: I can give a long list of countries where Nigerians are listed as drug dealers, pimps and scammers. This is not just in South Africa. Most of these parasites are uneducated Igbos who live Nigeria and who export their rubbish to other countries. You can jump up and down until you are blue in the face, but these facts will not change: 1. Nigerians sell drugs and are pimps. 2. Nigerians sit in social enclaves and have failed to integrate themselves. 3. You are one of those failed immigrants who are on the fringes of South African society. 4. Nigerians are in South Africa for one thing - their own financial benefit and cannot be looked upon for any contribution, barring a few outliers. 5. Nigerians are desperate enough to want to do anything for papers and money. 6. Nigerians are prepared to marry women they don't love for papers. 7. Nigerias are prepared to flock into the drug trade - en masse - for money. 8. Nigerians like you know zero about South Africa notwithstanding their having been in South Africa for years. 9. You cannot expect hosts to embrace you if you cannot do what is required to understand the hosts. 10. Because South Africa has rejected you, you remain bitter. You are a failed immigrant, but Akin Omotoso, for example is not. He has integrated. He is an outlier - him and the few others like him. 2 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by DieVluit: 8:32pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: You are clueless. You also failed to make it in South Africa and to get the respect you so crave. You clearly were treated like filth and are now unhappy. You think South Africans were meant to sit and wait for you to make your appearance, so that they could shower you with love. You have to work for that love. You have to integrate yourself. That's how immigration works, worlwide. I have lived in other countries. They embraced me because I embraced them, along with their problems and shortcomings. I learned their history, culture, languages and ways. I did not sit in some dungeon selling drugs and hoping to be loved. I became one with them. Anyway, Nigerians specifically are not part of South Africa's formal labour space. Only a few outliers are. Nigerians are hustlers in the main. The most affected people with the xenophobia attacks are SADC people. The drug lords of Nigeria were in Hillbrow and Point Road where they sit in their filth. South Africa has a long history of drawing labour from the SADC region. It follows then that unscrupulous employers will take advantage of the situation and hire cheap labour. Even South Africans that are hired as scab labour present problems, which sometimes ends in extreme violence. Labour rights go hand-in-hand with democratic rights because apartheid was an economic system that relied on cheap labour. Standing in the way of labour rights and decent pay is reversing the gains that have been made by the labour movement. When the liberation movements were banned, it was the labour movement that fought apartheid. SADC people are part of that story, but even they cannot be expected to fully grasp the complexities. The interaction between SADC countries and South Africans has zero to do with Nigeria. Nigerians are hated for one thing and one thing only- drugs and pimping. Jobs have nothing to do with Nigerians. Nigerians have no iota of South Africaness in them and they have no hope in hell of assimilation. They have cut themselves slums in Hillbrow and then they are hurt if they are seen as outsiders. You have zero to do with the labour issues and you aren't interested in that anyway because all you uneducated Igbo guys are in South Africa for is to escape the failure that is Nigeria and to drug and love-vendor. Finish. Don't tell me about exceptions and outliers. 1 Like |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by chineloSA(f): 8:42pm On May 14, 2015 |
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Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 8:45pm On May 14, 2015 |
DieVluit: Likewise my "brother" this is the South African dilemma Apatheid era.... We are suffering because of APatheid.. FIGHT APATHEID.. APATHEID MUST GO!! Post 1994 era.......We are suffering because of White priviledge...FIGHT WHITE PRIVILEDGE.... WHITE PRIVILEDGE MUST GO!! Pre 2008.....We are suffering because of corruption and the Tenderpreneurs......ZUMA MUST GO! Post 2008 Xenophobic attacks... We suffering because the foreigners are taking our jobs.. FOREIGNERS MUST GO! PoST 2014....2nd wave of Xenophobic attacks.. We are suffering because of foreigners are taking our jobs, taking our wives, and don't want to integrate and kiss our azzes... They stay secluded and don't want to pay taxes... FOREIGNERS MUST GO! POST 2015.... We are suffering because... "FIll in the blanks" All the above are not your real problem. You are just insane in the membrane that's all. PS Please stop holding up Akin Omotosho that was on generations and the likes of Moky Makura, Fabian Adeoye Lojede and Etufunwa as your examples of the so called integrationist ideals. I highly doubt not one would not have a story of how they have been discriminated against because of their nationalities. I belive even Fabien had a documentary out where he pointed out his dark days in SA. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by DieVluit: 8:48pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: With all of that said, it remains Nigerians that are desperate to be in South Africa. Not the other way round. Even this thread proves it. Hell, even the hurt in your heart at having been rejected by South Africa proves it. The Omotoso family will forever remain a prime example of what a good Nigerian immigrant is. But sadly, they are only 0.0001% of the pie. The rest are junk and are undesirables. 1 Like |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by shadowhunter15(f): 8:50pm On May 14, 2015 |
byrron:Sorry, just quoting what my extremely liberal APUSH teacher claimed.. |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by LeSudAfricaine: 8:52pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24:You've written a lot, but pretty much say nothin' you basically repeat the same thing over and over again You have no business in telling South Africans they have a problem, we are a problem in our own country not in Vietnam, Malaysia, indonesia etc face that problem first before telling other people, You live in a glass house don't throw stones It's funny how you take "iisolated ncidents "and make them the norm, Sure your friends took out some cheap floozies out, so what? Does it now mean our women now prefer Nigerian men? Not by a long shot, Women who marry Nigerians are looked down upon, not only by men but by the South African society in general and that's fact! And please stop feeding me this vídeo nonsense, I unlike you do not study South África for a living, I live in SA, I'm South African, you can't possibly understand the country more than I do |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 8:53pm On May 14, 2015 |
DieVluit: Boy stop the childish rant....." You wish you made it in South Africa." That reverse psychology thingy aint gonna work on me. PS. I don't really care about your labour issues or if Nigerians wish to integrate into the communities in South AFrica. You need to channel this integrationist ideology to those Indian, Chinese, Jewish, German, British communities around your country. Why is it they are able to open up schools that only cater for their kind, Why don't they learn about your people, come integrate with you. Oh I forgot they are "EXPATRIATES" 4 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by morpheus24: 8:55pm On May 14, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine: The videos and commentary are mostly for the poor unsuspecting semi skilled Nigerians lining up in the embassies trying to go to South Africa to find greener pastures. Stay on topic! 2 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by DieVluit: 8:58pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24: Of course you don't care about the labour issues. That is exactly my point. Nigerians aren't working people. They are hustling people. So the xenophobic attacks and "take-our-jobs" story has nothing to do with Nigeria. It is a SADC issue that Nigeria has no business talking about. Nigerians are only about drugs, pimping and scams. The way South Africa views Nigerians has zero to do with the way South Africa views a Mozambican. So, yes - you don't care about labour issues. Mozambicans and Zimbabweans do. All that you as a Nigerian care about is how you can stay in South Africa so you can escape the ravaged infrastructure and such in Nigeria. You care about how you can milk the system and suck the life out of it like you have done in Nigeria. You care only about how you can continue being viewed as an oga both in Nigeria and in SA. If you are treated like filth, you are hurt and bitter. You, my friend, are hurt and are bitter. There is only one solution for you - fix Nigeria. Do that and be happy. But you can't. You cannot fix it and will not fix it. Your people will forever be one of the biggest immigrant groups in a lot of countries. Again, South Africa rejected you Morpheus. They hurt you. They viewed you with scorn and contempt. Now you hate South Africans as a result. It's as simple as that. 4 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by LeSudAfricaine: 9:01pm On May 14, 2015 |
MduZA:yes they are chest beaters for sure! And it's really annoying 2 Likes |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by LeSudAfricaine: 9:08pm On May 14, 2015 |
morpheus24:Yeah you exist in The Matrix, that's why have no sense of reality none whatsoever 1 Like |
Re: Things You Must Know Before Coming To South Africa - A Nairalander In SA by chineloSA(f): 9:10pm On May 14, 2015 |
SisterCaro: Well P.E. is expanding at a fast pace, there are a lot of project going on e.g. expansion of the port. There are good opportunities there But a very beautiful city. 2 Likes |
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