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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by adeza: 11:57am On May 14, 2015
Pls I need clarification on type of generic mails sent by the UK embassy. I applied for a 2 year visa renewal for myself and 6months for wife and son last week and got dis mail dis mrg.

dear xx xx xx

A decision has been made on your UK visa application. Your application will be despatched within 48 hrs. If anyone contacts you advising that your application is still under consideration or that they can influence the outcome of your application in any way, please disregard as they cannot. You should not expect to receive any further notification from this office.

Kind regards,

Lagos Visa Section



I'm nervous because the message is harsh, has anyone gotten this exact message and still issued Visa?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Ralphlauren(m): 12:25pm On May 14, 2015
adeza:

Pls I need clarification on type of generic mails sent by the UK embassy. I applied for a 2 year visa renewal for myself and 6months for wife and son last week and got dis mail dis mrg.

dear xx xx xx

A decision has been made on your UK visa application. Your application will be despatched within 48 hrs. If anyone contacts you advising that your application is still under consideration or that they can influence the outcome of your application in any way, please disregard as they cannot. You should not expect to receive any further notification from this office.

Kind regards,

Lagos Visa Section



I'm nervous because the message is harsh, has anyone gotten this exact message and still issued Visa?

what is harsh about it?

are you expecting an email asking you to come over for a cup of tea or informing you that you've won the lottery??
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by adeza: 12:39pm On May 14, 2015
@ RalphLauren: I asked a question and u decided to comment on another thing. This is why some people fail exams. #smh#.

Please can anyone answer my question?

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 12:53pm On May 14, 2015
justwise:

Bro that is not a mistake, you can't budget for the trip without including those items.

I think it's important for all UK visa applicant to know how to fill the INCOME AND EXPENDITURE part of the application form. Many applicants are refused because of their inconsistency in filling this part. I will try to provide some explanations here:

DO YOU HAVE SAVINGS, PROPERTIES OR OTHER INCOME, FOR EXAMPLE FROM STOCKS AND SHARES? This question is to find out if you have other sources of funds to finance your trip apart from your usual earnings. This could be savings, renting of properties, lands or stocks. If you have any of these sources of funds, then answer YES and provide documents to support your answer. Give estimate what amount this will translate on a monthly basis.

HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND EACH MONTH ON LIVING COSTS? This question is to find out what is your average monthly expenditure from your current income. For applicants that earn salary, you should be able to estimate how much you spend on living every month. Those that are self employed, can also provide an estimate.

HOW MUCH OF YOUR TOTAL MONTHLY INCOME IS GIVEN TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND OTHER DEPENDENTS? If you have dependents, such a parents, relations that you cater for, state how much money in GBP you must send to them monthly otherwise fill NOT APPLICABLE.

WHAT IS THE COST TO YOU PERSONALLY OF YOUR TRIP IN GBP(£)? If someone else is fully sponsoring your trip, obviously the cost to you personally is ZERO. In such case, your sponsor must submit documentation, e.g bank statement, and a letter written to UK embassy clearing stating why he/she is sponsoring the trip and any other justification. If the applicant is sponsoring himself, then the applicant must state how much the trip will cost (accommodation, flight ticket, meals, taxi, etc).

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAVE FOR THIS TRIP? The amount you enter here must correspond to "cost to you personally" if you are sponsoring yourself. If there is a sponsor, enter the amount the sponsor will make available to you.

THE COST OF THE AEROPLANE, BOAT OR TRAIN TICKETS. Enter the cost of flight ticket (Return ticket)

THE COST OF YOUR ACCOMMODATION. Enter the cost for accommodation (obtained from the hotel) or zero if staying with someone. Then you must submit documentation from that person, such as tenancy agreement, mortgage document, utility bill and a letter from that person to the embassy stating that they will accommodate you for the period stated in your application.

THE COST OF YOUR LIVING EXPENSES. Enter cost for eg. taxi, bus, shopping etc

IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU PAYING FOR ALL OR A PART OF YOUR TRIP? If you have a full sponsorship or partial sponsorship, then the answer to this question is YES, otherwise enter NO

WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN GBP(£)? Enter the total amount by adding the cost flight ticket, accommodation, living expenses. Ensure that this amount does not exceed the cost you computed for the trip.

Also any amount you enter, you must provide the currency, usually it better to provide the amount in GBP to avoid confusion. If you need to explain any thing else, use the addition information page and/or a sheet to paper. I hope these will answers some the questions applicants have on INCOME AND EXPENDITURE SECTION.
cheesy cheesy

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by sandraa(f): 2:55pm On May 14, 2015
@justwise can company do partial sponsorship for conferences of employees abroad?
Do ECO guys understand this is possible in Nigeria?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nenelistic: 3:13pm On May 14, 2015
ekpotek:


I think it's important for all UK visa applicant to know how to fill the INCOME AND EXPENDITURE part of the application form. Many applicants are refused because of their inconsistency in filling this part. I will try to provide some explanations here:

DO YOU HAVE SAVINGS, PROPERTIES OR OTHER INCOME, FOR EXAMPLE FROM STOCKS AND SHARES? This question is to find out if you have other sources of funds to finance your trip apart from your usual earnings. This could be savings, renting of properties, lands or stocks. If you have any of these sources of funds, then answer YES and provide documents to support your answer. Give estimate what amount this will translate on a monthly basis.

HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND EACH MONTH ON LIVING COSTS? This question is to find out what is your average monthly expenditure from your current income. For applicants that earn salary, you should be able to estimate how much you spend on living every month. Those that are self employed, can also provide an estimate.

HOW MUCH OF YOUR TOTAL MONTHLY INCOME IS GIVEN TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND OTHER DEPENDENTS? If you have dependents, such a parents, relations that you cater for, state how much money in GBP you must send to them monthly otherwise fill NOT APPLICABLE.

WHAT IS THE COST TO YOU PERSONALLY OF YOUR TRIP IN GBP(£)? If someone else is fully sponsoring your trip, obviously the cost to you personally is ZERO. In such case, your sponsor must submit documentation, e.g bank statement, and a letter written to UK embassy clearing stating why he/she is sponsoring the trip and any other justification. If the applicant is sponsoring himself, then the applicant must state how much the trip will cost (accommodation, flight ticket, meals, taxi, etc).

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAVE FOR THIS TRIP? The amount you enter here must correspond to "cost to you personally" if you are sponsoring yourself. If there is a sponsor, enter the amount the sponsor will make available to you.

THE COST OF THE AEROPLANE, BOAT OR TRAIN TICKETS. Enter the cost of flight ticket (Return ticket)

THE COST OF YOUR ACCOMMODATION. Enter the cost for accommodation (obtained from the hotel) or zero if staying with someone. Then you must submit documentation from that person, such as tenancy agreement, mortgage document, utility bill and a letter from that person to the embassy stating that they will accommodate you for the period stated in your application.

THE COST OF YOUR LIVING EXPENSES. Enter cost for eg. taxi, bus, shopping etc

IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU PAYING FOR ALL OR A PART OF YOUR TRIP? If you have a full sponsorship or partial sponsorship, then the answer to this question is YES, otherwise enter NO

WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN GBP(£)? Enter the total amount by adding the cost flight ticket, accommodation, living expenses. Ensure that this amount does not exceed the cost you computed for the trip.

Also any amount you enter, you must provide the currency, usually it better to provide the amount in GBP to avoid confusion. If you need to explain any thing else, use the addition information page and/or a sheet to paper. I hope these will answers some the questions applicants have on INCOME AND EXPENDITURE SECTION.
cheesy cheesy
very brilliant. And if you are rejected, can you change the amounts previously entered with reasons though
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by daysoffavor: 3:18pm On May 14, 2015
mrflow1:
Gd mrg guys.

Pls I need clarification on type of generic mails sent by the UK embassy. I applied for a 2 year visa renewal for my family recently and got dis mail dis mrg.

dear xx xx xx

A decision has been made on your UK visa application. Your application will be despatched within 48 hrs. If anyone contacts you advising that your application is still under consideration or that they can influence the outcome of your application in any way, please disregard as they cannot. You should not expect to receive any further notification from this office.

Kind regards,

Lagos Visa Section


My concern is I didn't get dis kind of mail wen I was given a 6 months visa.



What do u think guys?


3.QUESTIONS
1.WHAT DATE DID YOU APPLY?
2.DID YOU GET ANY MAIL AT ALL WHEN YOU GOT THE FIRST 6 MONTHS
3.DID YOU VIOLATE YOUR VISA IN ANYWAY
IN MY OWN OPINION THO...I DONT THINK THIS MEANS THAT YOU HAVE BIN REFUSED OR GRANTED,YEAH THE TONE OF THE MAIL SOUND HARSH, I SUBMITTED MINE ON THE 6TH OF MAY {RENEWAL AS WELL, 6 MONTHS THO} STILL HAVENT HEARD ANYTHING BACK EVEN AFTER 6 BUSINESS DAYS[/font]
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 3:32pm On May 14, 2015
nenelistic:

very brilliant. And if you are rejected, can you change the amounts previously entered with reasons though

Yes, if the major reason for the refusal was due to your finances and if your financial circumstances have changed since your last application. But you must clearly explain this to the ECO with documentation what have changed since your last application.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 3:36pm On May 14, 2015
sandraa:
@justwise can company do partial sponsorship for conferences of employees abroad?
Do ECO guys understand this is possible in Nigeria?

I think it will be difficult for anybody to understand why she wants to share the cost with her company. Even if she is a shareholder the cost of the trip has to come from the company's account.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 3:42pm On May 14, 2015
adeza:

Pls I need clarification on type of generic mails sent by the UK embassy. I applied for a 2 year visa renewal for myself and 6months for wife and son last week and got dis mail dis mrg.

dear xx xx xx

A decision has been made on your UK visa application. Your application will be despatched within 48 hrs. If anyone contacts you advising that your application is still under consideration or that they can influence the outcome of your application in any way, please disregard as they cannot. You should not expect to receive any further notification from this office.

Kind regards,

Lagos Visa Section



I'm nervous because the message is harsh, has anyone gotten this exact message and still issued Visa?

Almost every applicant get the same email, you will know the outcome when you pick up your package
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 3:44pm On May 14, 2015
sandraa:
@justwise can company do partial sponsorship for conferences of employees abroad?
Do ECO guys understand this is possible in Nigeria?

It is possible for some sponsors to provide partial sponsorship. This will depend on the who is the sponsor (individual or organization). In this case, it is not a good image for a company to provide partial sponsorship for training abroad. The ECO may view it as an act of irresponsibility for a company to send its staff on oversea training on partial sponsorship. If this trip is about self development, my best guess is to be silent on your company providing partial sponsorship, and focus more on demonstrating to the ECO that you have a strong ties at home (Marriage, Job and properties) and you will not breech the UK immigration rule for Visitor visa. @justwise can also shed more light on it.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by passionup11: 4:11pm On May 14, 2015
Hello all.
Pls justwise and all, I have been a silent follower and reader of this thread and I have gained a lot. I used the information I got here to apply for my two(2) years visa and I just got it today. However, when I opened my documents, I realised that a sensitive document like the Confirmation of my appointment ISSUED by my employer was not returned to me. My question is how can I retrieve the document? the document is very important and I wonder why they missed sending it back with other official documents I submitted. Pls house, how can I get this back? do I need to write or visit Teleperformance on the issue? or do I need to write the embassy and intimate them of the issue?
All suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by JohnSnow008: 4:58pm On May 14, 2015
Hi Justwise. Thanks for your help. I have gotten my business visa now.
My training is to take place in Wales but i am going through heathrow. I want to find out if they will allow me stay a night in London with my family members before flying off to Wales the next day. (With a business Visa)
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by seam(f): 5:30pm On May 14, 2015
Gud day everyone,dis is actually my first post, I don't kno if am doing it correctly permit me if am nt.pls I need ur opinion bout my case.I ws denied a UK visa in 2012,and I applied for a review and I ws asked to file a new application. I just submitted a fresh application yesterday and I made sure everything ws in place bt during my interview I ws asked for the name of my manager but I gave the name of my direct boss who is a director and not a manager .I did dat cos he ws the signatory to all my letters.pls do u tink this can affect my application?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 5:48pm On May 14, 2015
passionup11:
Hello all.
Pls justwise and all, I have been a silent follower and reader of this thread and I have gained a lot. I used the information I got here to apply for my two(2) years visa and I just got it today. However, when I opened my documents, I realised that a sensitive document like the Confirmation of my appointment ISSUED by my employer was not returned to me. My question is how can I retrieve the document? the document is very important and I wonder why they missed sending it back with other official documents I submitted. Pls house, how can I get this back? do I need to write or visit Teleperformance on the issue? or do I need to write the embassy and intimate them of the issue?
All suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Email the embassy and ask for those documents especially the appointment letter
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 5:50pm On May 14, 2015
JohnSnow008:
Hi Justwise. Thanks for your help. I have gotten my business visa now.
My training is to take place in Wales but i am going through heathrow. I want to find out if they will allow me stay a night in London with my family members before flying off to Wales the next day. (With a business Visa)

Of course you can, nothing wrong with that. If asked tell them that you spending a night in London before heading to Wales

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 5:52pm On May 14, 2015
seam:
Gud day everyone,dis is actually my first post, I don't kno if am doing it correctly permit me if am nt.pls I need ur opinion bout my case.I ws denied a UK visa in 2012,and I applied for a review and I ws asked to file a new application. I just submitted a fresh application yesterday and I made sure everything ws in place bt during my interview I ws asked for the name of my manager but I gave the name of my direct boss who is a director and not a manager .I did dat cos he ws the signatory to all my letters. pls do u tink this can affect my application?
I seriously doubt that.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by rochf10: 2:54am On May 15, 2015
Hello gurus. Would appreciate your input on this before I go thru another application. I have decided to reapply for a visit visa this September. Will it be wise if I just submit my salary account statement with enough funds in the last 4 months when in my prior application, I submitted both my salary and savings account? I just dont want the unexplained deposit in my savings account to come up again. Appreciate all your help.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Missdodo: 7:55am On May 15, 2015
Good morning good people,

I'm sorry to bug with a cliche question, but please I intend to attend a training, fully sponsored by my organisation (up to tickets, feeding, warm clothing even in summer lol), do I need to submit my personal bank statement?

Thank you so much. I actually intend to apply on Tuesday.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by nenelistic: 8:45am On May 15, 2015
It is so funny when an entry clearance officer says that the total amount available for the tripis 5X your disposable income. Let me explain, salary is 162,000 And you indicate that you spend 60,000 monthly, leaving you with a disposable income of about 100,000. You propose to spend about 550,000 including flight ticket, hotel bills and living expenses. you have been working for over a year o. This guys will take into consideration only one month's disposable income and compare it with what you propose instead of the disposable income that you have saved over the period of time of employment,even when you show them an account where the monies are saved. This is ridiculous.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by chimaamaechi17: 9:20am On May 15, 2015
@justwise nd others, pls l need ur assistance on dis... I intend applying for a short stay enstonian visa at Belgium embassy as dey ar responsible to issue short stay visa to Estonia and one of d requirements is to provide a PERSONAL TAX CLEARANCE. My elder brother is my sponsor. Pls how can my brother get a personal tax clearance since he is my sponsor? Pls justwise, vicjustice and others, help me with dis as it d only challenge facing me now... Tanx as l await ur response.l
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by donciccio: 9:36am On May 15, 2015
nenelistic:
It is so funny when an entry clearance officer says that the total amount available for the tripis 5X your disposable income. Let me explain, salary is 162,000 And you indicate that you spend 60,000 monthly, leaving you with a disposable income of about 100,000. You propose to spend about 550,000 including flight ticket, hotel bills and living expenses. you have been working for over a year o. This guys will take into consideration only one month's disposable income and compare it with what you propose instead of the disposable income that you have saved over the period of time of employment,even when you show them an account where the monies are saved. This is ridiculous.

mate, that same applies to me. these ecosystems are sometimes very funny with what they say when they don't want to give visa.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by donciccio: 9:50am On May 15, 2015
Justwise, Vicjustice and my Fellow NL'ers, I've just received my parcel yesterday and was refused visa. I submitted on the 29th March, and was assessed with a decision on the 6th May. kindly advise what could've been amended on this application. Also will like to know how long for me to reapply again.
See attachments.

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by adeza: 10:30am On May 15, 2015
@ donciccio: sorry about the refusal, please what exact message did you get from UK embassy about your visa application before you picked Ur passport from the application centre?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Kallambi: 10:56am On May 15, 2015
I have taken time to go through lots of posts here,i must commend the good work. I really need guidance,i was refused a student visa(msc) in 2008 on the basis eco isnt sure if i can pay the balance of my tuition fee and afford living expenses. Today i am a businessman, md of a duly registered engineering firm,with CAC,tax clearance,company acc etc. Now, I intend to travel to Uk for 2weeks holiday say honeymoon with my wife,we have been married for 2yrs anyway with a 4months old son.My wife isnt working and I dont plan travelling with my son. I want to take from now till nov(7months) to package a water-tight application because i never want to be refused the second time,i have about N15m in company account. We plan travelling dec,just me and my wife,will leave my son with mother-inlaw. Pls,i really need advice from the travel experts here on how to package a flawless application. Thanks
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by donciccio: 11:06am On May 15, 2015
adeza:
@ donciccio: sorry about the refusal, please what exact message did you get from UK embassy about your visa application before you picked Ur passport from the application centre?

@adeza, the msg you're much concerned about posted abv^ by you I got that first. thereafter that my package has been sent then I got a msg too from TLS.
I believe you the msg rang bell to me too when I received it but I didn't mind.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 11:13am On May 15, 2015
rochf10:
Hello gurus. Would appreciate your input on this before I go thru another application. I have decided to reapply for a visit visa this September. Will it be wise if I just submit my salary account statement with enough funds in the last 4 months when in my prior application, I submitted both my salary and savings account? I just dont want the unexplained deposit in my savings account to come up again. Appreciate all your help.
.

I think is still better to submit both account statements, and explain in the additional information page or with a sheet of page address to the ECO, the details of the unexplained deposit noted in the letter of refusal. The ECO will most certainly referred to that letter in considering your next application. It is best to provided details explanation and documentation to address all the reasons stated for your last refusal, if you think the ECO made a mistake in the first place. Withholding information that can help your case is not in the best interest.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by chimaamaechi17: 11:31am On May 15, 2015
Pls guys, justwise, vicjustice nd others, pls answer my question on how to get a personal tax clearance. It is part of d requirements for a short stay shengen visa at Belgium embassy. pls guys help me out. it is d only challenge im facing at d moment... thank u all as i await ur responses...
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 11:35am On May 15, 2015
Missdodo:
Good morning good people,

I'm sorry to bug with a cliche question, but please I intend to attend a training, fully sponsored by my organisation (up to tickets, feeding, warm clothing even in summer lol), do I need to submit my personal bank statement?

Thank you so much. I actually intend to apply on Tuesday.
.

YES, your personal bank statement is a proof of your financial standing and spending habits, which the ECO will also consider, in evaluating your application even though your company is sponsoring the trip. Failure to include it may not be in your best interest.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 11:46am On May 15, 2015
nenelistic:
It is so funny when an entry clearance officer says that the total amount available for the tripis 5X your disposable income. Let me explain, salary is 162,000 And you indicate that you spend 60,000 monthly, leaving you with a disposable income of about 100,000. You propose to spend about 550,000 including flight ticket, hotel bills and living expenses. you have been working for over a year o. This guys will take into consideration only one month's disposable income and compare it with what you propose instead of the disposable income that you have saved over the period of time of employment,even when you show them an account where the monies are saved. This is ridiculous.

Not at all, the ECO just wandering how you have been able to saved 550,000 for a vacation, when you have about 100,000 disposable monthly income. Without any details explanations, it is impossible to convince the ECO.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ekpotek: 11:55am On May 15, 2015
donciccio:
Justwise, Vicjustice and my Fellow NL'ers, I've just received my parcel yesterday and was refused visa. I submitted on the 29th March, and was assessed with a decision on the 6th May. kindly advise what could've been amended on this application. Also will like to know how long for me to reapply again.
See attachments.

@donciccio, sorry about the outcome. It is clear form the letter, that the ECO does not think that its wise for you to spend 3x your monthly disposable income for just a vacation in the UK. You did not also provide details plans on what you will do while in the UK. You can reapply anytime, but your application will also be processed putting into consideration if you have fully addressed the reasons for your last refusal.

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