Jayboi:
well. its not as if all the stories documented in the movie are true. yet the message there is obvious and as a Christian, I know my they are. Op definitely is not a Christian. sorry if you feel offended by the movie.

ghostofsparta:
I don't feel offended by the film nor the director but sometimes feel upset by Abrahamist negro converts like you who can't see what's wrong with such production and how books such as The Jewish Phenomenon is a propaganda from an African POV.

Jayboi:

now its obvious who you are. The bible is at your disposal. I'm not saying all accounts in the movie are correct, but its still on point. Read the book of exodus again.

musicwriter:
@ghostofsparta.
Always like your views as it concerns Africa and the black race. The only thing I disagree with you is on worshiping carved woodwork that you advocate for as well (correct me, if this assertion is wrong)

musicwriter:

What you need to understand is the original Jews were black people and they started Judaism as a religion not white people. The modern whites in Israel today are Polish immigrants who adopted Judaism as a religion, and dominated it. What the bible called gentiles.

musicwriter:

It's such a pity blackman remains blind to his own history, even when Israeli scholars are now coming out in the open to say they're not the real Jews.

musicwriter:
So, this movie as you said is nothing but an entertainment. But I wonder why black actors and directors there in Hollywood just sit and wait for black history to be told by whites.

musicwriter:

Who are the real Isaelites?

Watch video below!

Whited Out Documentary, The True Israelites were Black, Asians & Native Americans were also Black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0DtMiYxEM

ghostofsparta:
What has the obviousness of who am I got to do with anything ? Not saying I haven't read the book of Exodus but why should any true African person be concerned about an account of the Jewish people in the first place, why not those of the Balto-Slavic people or Saxons ? their accounts is also as interesting as that of us Africans. Why the fixation on the semitic Jews ?


@Gatiano I can see you on this thread and I'm not saying you can't drop your comment but PLEASE, PLEASE and PLEASE not any of those drivel of yours.

cutelover19:
I was really disappointed in the movie, so many misrepresentations and misinformation. Please don't take the message to heart!

ghostofsparta:
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As I settled to watch Ridley Scott's cinematic rendition of a biblical myth titled Exodus: Gods & Kings a fog of dismay encroached on my jolly mood as the epic-movie progressed on. It was as a mind liberated off religious falsehood wrestling with yet another instrument of propaganda, it got to a stage I couldn't bear the whole misinformation and just had to excuse myself. Two Islam-dominated African countries banned the theatrical viewing of the movie over what they deem as offensive to their faith which is the depiction of prophet Moses (Musa in Islam) interacting with Yahweh (Allah) as represented as a male adolescent.

To start with - if the Jews, as the movie implies was responsible for the laborious construction of those great monuments and pyramids in ancient Egypt as has been portrayed in Hollywood flicks such as the mishmash 'Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter', the question is why isn't it much referenced (if not detailed) in the Christian Bible or Torah ?

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Let face it, was it really during Pharaoh Rameses period the Jews were tyrannized ? Why isn't there any information available to substantiate this accusation ? Even to offer a benefit of doubt is still ponder why would Egyptian scribes decide to omit the documenting of a significant and enormous event where years of forced servitude is imposed on a special set of people known to us today as the Jews, whose offense for been persecuted was to acknowledge a God which differs from that which their host believed in, well...no archaeological data exist to concretize this, no cenotaphic records and hieroglyphic evidence of hundreds of Egyptians pharaohs provide the littlest of clue that can attest to such concocted claim knowing how well negrotic Egyptians are reputable for record keeping. Christian scholars and notable theologians keep mute on these pointer same way the Arabs who now occupy Egypt prefer to remain silence when questioned about the original owners of Egypt.

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Regardless of the historical fact that several groups sojourned in Egypt at various Pharaonic reign, even if a proof exists [or is provided by those who hold on to this parochial argument] to validate the claim that cruelty was meted on the Jews, hence would not it be sensible for an omniscient Yahweh (Jehovah) to have put his omnipotent powers into use by magically transited his 'chosen' people away from a land of oppression and strife rather than laying Egypt to waste and destruction through plagues, famine and upsetting of its natural condition as graphicalized in the film, all because of a macho struggle between a mad King and a foreign God ? It beats me I'd say. Secondly, the level of euro-centricism displayed ceaselessly in the high-budget flick only corresponds to one truth - 'the victor rewrites history' or as George Orwell once articulates; "those who control the present can, to some extent, control knowledge of the past". This can only shed credence to the factoid that Hollywood is controlled by the Jews for I see no reason why the movie script should jump scrutiny so as to be consistent with historical facts.
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Christian Bale (Moses) and Ridley Scott (Director)
Director Ridley Scott's excuse for whitewashing the casts with Caucasians is flimsy on his weight scale of either conforming the project with a pro-Jewish angle else wouldn't have seen daylight of funding. This is equivalent in insult if a movie which intentionally depicts Asians as terrorists responsible for 9/11 attacks so far it fuels an impression, if distorting the facts can yield money who cares of it verity if certain interests remains satisfied. If bible-believing Africans are lost about their collective true origin and history other than the version Euro-arabs slave masters hammered down their minds like that of the Adam & Eve myth for instance - why shouldn't anyone proceed to shoot spurious motion pictures such as this one. The sponsors of Exodus: Gods & Kings are cognizant of the fact that the mindset of majority of Africans still function in ways that subconsciously place the pale-skin people as superior to them in all matters, including historical authority.


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This scene implies lots of things...for instance, there was never a time Egypt belonged to negrotic Africans

From purely an entertainment point of view, of-course it's just a movie but I can tell many Nigerians would rather relish in seeing in a miracle-working foreign deity defeating that which is closer to theirs without even realizing the error in the story and how the whole setup further destroys them like the book they so guide their reality by has done for years. I have no qualms with Hollywood nor with those who adjust history and reality to suit their movie tale like The Interview did, but the danger lies in the sort of mindset movies such as 12 Years A Slave and this one shapes. Mentality that can be counter-productive and at most destructive to foreign and local interest. The way majority of Euro-americans know one or two things about the Tarzan legend is not the way everyone here understood the various dynamics that fueled trans-Atlantic and sub-Saharan slavery or who Cheikh Antah Diop and Naiwo Osahon are, these two among others African scholars debunked years of misinterpreted findings on Africans history and origin, these authors looked at the same piece of evidence and data and set things straight from the rather euro-centric framework of non-African scholars and researchers. Reasons such as this is why movement were even setup on twitter to enlighten others of the misinformation besieged the movie.

Like every other civilized world were flourishing in various parts of Africa so was Kemet (ancient Egypt) which was inhabited by negroids who constructed and build the pyramids and other monumental structures with their sweat and blood, or whatever means was used to construct those mega-structures. Not only were they culturally influential to other neighboring non-Africans, not only did the ancient Kemet founded the great civilization Egypt is credited for today, where before the mixture and invasion of various foreigners.

The movie is more interesting than the original story from the bible. . Those christian fanatics should come and get me if they can! Bwahaha...

ghostofsparta:
Tell 'em again cos they indoctrinates here won't listen.

all4naija:
The movie is more interesting than the original story from the bible. . Those christian fanatics should come and get me if they can! Bwahaha...

cutelover19:
The part that really upset me was at the crossing of the red sea, in the Bible God asked Moses to strike the water with his staff and the winds parted the water on either side and they crossed on 'dry' ground. Watch the movie to see how this scene was ill-depicted. BTW, I'm a Catholic Christian so I know what I'm saying.

ghostofsparta:
I think the movie is a silly as the Biblical Exodus itself because why couldn't an omnipotent Yahweh just have done something better than causing mayhem to innocent Egyptians all because 'he' wants to prove he's mightier. WTH!!!

all4naija:

You didn't get the sarcasm in my post though!

tpiaT:
Its not meant to be a Christian film, same as Noah.

ghostofsparta:
No I didn't

If it's not among the intention of the movie-maker to make it appeal to Christian masses, how then does a christian film play out ?

cutelover19:


The part that really upset me was at the crossing of the red sea, in the Bible God asked Moses to strike the water with his staff and the winds parted the water on either side and they crossed on 'dry' ground. Watch the movie to see how this scene was ill-depicted.

kay9:
I think your topic says it all - the movie was purely for entertainment - no need to go into all that about religion and stuff. The internet is there for anyone who wants to know the true-true.And hey, while we are at it, I didn't hear anyone (=non-Caucasian) complain when Idris Elba was cast as Heimdall in Thor.

kay9:
The sad fact is 90% of Nigerians (even the so-called educated ones) will most like react with derision if they saw a black Moses. So dont blame it all on Hollywood, they are just feeding us what we want - we who should know better.

kay9:
I think your topic says it all - the movie was purely for entertainment - no need to go into all that about religion and stuff. The internet is there for anyone who wants to know the true-true. The sad fact is 90% of Nigerians (even the so-called educated ones) will most like react with derision if they saw a black Moses. So dont blame it all on Hollywood, they are just feeding us what we want - we who should know better.


And hey, while we are at it, I didn't hear anyone (=non-Caucasian) complain when Idris Elba was cast as Heimdall in Thor.

tpiaT:
yes, that scene was depicted differently from what people were expecting.

purplekayc:
Dont wNt to say nagetive about this guy hes one of th e best film makers along with his late brother.

ghostofsparta:
How do people know what to expect, oh you mean Christians and Jews. Have you watched Nativity story ? If you haven't then please do...
...understand that Ridley Scott, an excellent director is very careful when researching his film project such as Gladiator where certain elements complies with historical fact but seems to care less this time around if his recent work offends the sensibility of any group of people so far it seeing the light of the day is guaranteed. The same goes with other famous and unpopular directors, producers, writers etc in Hollywood who are tend to be considerate when making movies on sensitive subject races that borders on racial, ethnic and active religion sometimes especially when not to offend the Jewish people, why don't they pay that respect to the negroid race the same way writer Mike Rich and director Catherine Hardwicke ensured their story abides by available historical record by casting dark-skinned African Eriq Ebouaney to portray King Balthazaar, one of the three wise men in the movie Nativity Story.

purplekayc:
where and which scenes does not cpmply with historical lines,?
He was only trying to explain it in his own ways.for example when moses(xtian bale)was leading the people and needed to cross the seA,the water body instead of being parted was taken up into the clouds and suspended and was later rained down as heavy water destroying pharaoh's army.
God too was portrayed through a child.
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