missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

yorex2011:


Please guard your utterances... I'd like to assume you are not a child. God bless you

missclasssy:


The truth is painful isn't it?
Well you just receive a full dose of the truth.

Tallesty1:
I am a catholic and you are in no way ahead of me or better than me religiously.

missclasssy:


No one is arguing about who is more religious here.
I just stated the truth, I don't expect you as a catholic to be okay with it.

Catholic history and doctrines are bathed in occult and satanic symbolism and secrecy. There are facts to back my assertions with.

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

seankafor:
oya bring ur facts, by the way which church do u attend?

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

wheesin:
[b] Okay, there are really two parts to the story. And the first part starts very well. From the very earliest days the Church and its theologians have taken Paul’s vision in Romans five of the two men Adam and Christ who determine the destiny of all people to be a very strong dominant image in salvation. There are two men — Adam and Christ. And we all depend on one of them for our salvation. In Adam we all fell. In Christ those who are united to him are saved.

Now that became such a strong feature in the theology of the early Church that people began to think what is Eve’s place in this? So it wasn’t just Adam who fell. It was Eve who fell as well. And so they began to see a man and a woman are the origin of our damnation. And to see a nice tidiness as this first Adam and last Adam — according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 — so some theologians started to play with the idea that there was a first Eve and a last Eve who would be Mary. And this began to develop very, very slowly into the idea that somehow Mary might be a co-partner in the work of salvation. And so Pope John Paul II was a believer in Mary as co-redemptrix, a redeemer alongside Christ, which, of course, goes directly against what you read in Acts 4:12 that there is one name under heaven by which all men may be saved, Jesus Christ.

That was a theological trajectory. It didn’t do an awful lot popularly for praying to Mary until something else happened. So from the 500 to 1500 or so there was for various reasons a tragic decline in the knowledge of God. The gospel became increasingly cloistered. Knowledge of it became restricted to monasteries. People weren’t being well taught. And as the knowledge of God declined so Christ receded into heaven. People felt they simply couldn’t approach him. They didn't know of him as a Savior. And so that being the case, if you can’t approach Christ as a compassionate and faithful high priest who will intercede for us, we need mediators between us and Christ himself. So the thought grew: Well, if I can’t approach Christ, I will approach his mum who will put in a good word for me to Christ. And so people would begin to pray to Mary who would pray to Christ who would intercede with the Father. This actually started getting even stronger. Mary herself started acquiring this very exalted position as the Queen of Heaven and so people thought I should pray to her mother to put in a good word with her who will put in a good word with Jesus. And so the cult of Anne began, Anne being the mother of Mary. And if you read the story of Martin Luther you see this time when he is a young man, a law student and he is knocked to the ground by a lightning bold. The explanation that comes out of his mouth is: St. Anne, help me. I will become a monk. And Luther had never up to that age dared pray to God himself. He would only pray to saints, mediators between us and Christ.

And the other thing I think we see with Luther is because Luther felt he couldn’t love God—Indeed, Luther said: I hated the righteous God who condemned sinners—you have to place your heart and your affections somewhere on someone who appears lovely. And since Christ didn't appear lovely, what Luther said he and his fellow monks did is they placed their affections elsewhere on Mary and on the saints, because Mary, this mother figure seemed to have a compassion that Jesus didn’t. And that, I think, explains why if you talk, say, to an Italian Roman Catholic today you will often get a strong sense of how much it is not just that Mary is important figure for them, but they love her. There is a real warmth of affection. And I think that, again, betrays that view that Christ is not a compassionate and faithful high priest. Therefore you need someone who will do that job for him.

I think that is absolutely right, because if I was simply to be disrespectful towards Mary, that is not going to be a productive way forward. But to say all the compassion and redemption that you are looking for in Mary better is found in Christ. I am not taking away anything from you. I am offering you a better gospel, a truer, more gracious God. [/b]

mkpakanaodogwu:
you are too judgemental,quite unlady like(from a member of Church of flying spaghetti monster)

missclasssy:


Enough of this your gender based stereotypical rubbish.
So because I stated what I believed as the truth, I am being too judgmental and unlady like?

missclasssy:


No one is arguing about who is more religious here.
I just stated the truth, I don't expect you as a catholic to be okay with it.

Catholic history and doctrines are bathed in occult and satanic symbolism and secrecy. There are facts to back my assertions with.

mkpakanaodogwu:
which denomination do you belong?

Tallesty1:
Tell me your own church and I will give you their dirty history and how they secretly worship Satan.

missclasssy:


My mum was catholic, my dad was pentecostal. So I was raised in a catholic/pentecostal home.

I don't do religion anymore.

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

wheesin:


pls madam no insults ..just tell them the truth in a honest manner

mkpakanaodogwu:
fsm is the koko

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

missclasssy:


I don't belong to any church or religion.

missclasssy:


Duuuuurh! Wasn't I just honest with them?
Or don't you know what honesty means?

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

chibwike:
who are you to judge?....the fact that you dont do religion doesn't mean u'd condemn someone else's own....every one has what works for him or her....if being without religion works for you..fine...dont criticize others...you are not God.

missclasssy:
Catholics are bunch of blinded, deluded folks who are ignorantly eating from the tray of lies the so called pope and priests are feeding them.

Empredboy:
Really? Plz tell us the truth ur pastors told u