mmsen:

Molestation of girls is not legal and no one speaks in defense of such a disgusting practice. Is anyone arguing that child molestation is 'cultural'? It's an unfortunate activity that happens in every nation on the planet, most people are disgusted by it. Can the same be said for child marriage in the north?
At least when it comes to child molestation those people are punished when discovered.
What happens to Yerima when he marries a child and then discards her a year later?

Whether you molest the girls with our marriage or you molest them in a so called marriage , it is still child molestation and must be condemned. It happens in all societies in Nigeria and elsewhere. Many girls in the famous baby factories of the SE are underage.

This is serious.

Hausa man quickly begin vex... "Gbando don't underestimate my posts" anger issues

S
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)
reported that [size=16pt]Allah's Apostle
peace be upon him) married her
when she was seven years old,
and he was taken to his house as
a bride when she was nine, and
her dolls were with her; [/size]
and when
he (the Holy Prophet) died she
was eighteen years old.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking
about the clothes soiled with
s.emen. He said that 'Aisha had
said, "I used to wash it off the
clothes of Allah's Apostle and he
would go for the prayers while
water spots were still visible on
them.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Numb
Narrated 'Aisha:
[size=13pt]The Prophet and I used to take a
bath from a single pot while we
were Junub. During the menses,
he used to order me to put on an
Izar (dress worn below the waist)
and used to F.ONDLE me. While in
Itikaf, he used to bring his head
near me and I would wash it while
I used to be in my periods
(MENSES). [/size]


Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3460:
Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased
with them) reported: 'Abdullah
died and he left (behind him) nine
or seven daughters. I married a
woman who had been previously
married. Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said to me:
Jabir, have you married? I said:
Yes. He (again) said: A virgin or
one previously married? I said:
Messenger of Allah, with one who
was previously married,
whereupon he said:[size=13pt] Why didn't
you marry a young girl so that
you could sport with her and she
could sport with you, [/size]
or you could
amuse with her and she could
amuse with you? I said to him:
'Abdullah died (he fell as martyr in
Uhud) and left nine or seven
daughters behind him; I,
therefore, did not approve of the
idea that I should bring a (girl)
like them, but I preferred to bring
a woman who should look after
them and teach them good
manners, whereupon he (Allah's
Messenger) said: May Allah bless
you, or he supplicated (for the)
good (to be) conferred on me (by
Allah).
(mayahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311:


absolutely disgusting. Its simply Muslims doing what the hadith and quran teaches them.

FlirtyKaren:
Kamil Ahmad-Paki, his Facebook page says he is a 'human rights activist', says Mrs Aisha Buhari is so wrong for wanting to stop child marriage. Cos according to him, this is contrary to Hausa/Fulani norms and culture, and as such, it must remain a futile and unsuccessful assertion. Read and see into the minds of some people.

Someone in the comments said child marriage reduces promiscuity. Another said he feels so ashamed that a woman of Aisha's learning, background and privileged union with Gen. Buhari could nurture such an ambition. That shame is on her for her reasoning which is a taboo. That may she never see through in this endeavour because it is a plot to deprive people of their fundamental rights. That if he knew this was it, they will never have voted her in.

Another man asked people against child marriage to tell him the precise age at which Mary was betrothed to Joseph and when she gave birth to Jesus (peace b upon him)?

Another man also said:

As a Muslim and as a father, I won't let my daughter meet a boyfriend before she is 18, talk less of a husband because I feel 18 is a proper age for physical and mental maturity but in all honesty, I would rather she was properly educated first because she would be useless in her home and in the society if she has no qualifications.

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What's ur take on this. Pro or anti pedophilia.

AnanseK:


Whether you molest the girls with our marriage or you molest them in a so called marriage , it is still child molestation and must be condemned. It happens in all societies in Nigeria and elsewhere. Many girls in the famous baby factories of the SE are underage.

Why do you keep jumping on practices that are widely condemned to use by comparison?

We hear about these baby factories because the police investigate them as the people report them in disgust.

These are people readily identified as criminals, no one is defending their practices.

Comparing a judicially sanctioned act with a culturally accepted yet barbaric practice is nonsensical.

Child marriage is sanctioned by the religious authorities in the north and is never condemned by the big political actors in that region.

You keep repeating nonsense as if you have a point to make, the truth is you do not.

uzolexis:


Odinma dear,this pple r shocking me with this their Islamic fanatism. I don't even know what 2 say.

Dangerous mentality! they r all sick in d head!
These fools must learn to treat and give women rights. . .. . . .

Ifeann:
S
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)
reported that [size=16pt]Allah's Apostle
peace be upon him) married her
when she was seven years old,
and he was taken to his house as
a bride when she was nine, and
her dolls were with her; [/size]
and when
he (the Holy Prophet) died she
was eighteen years old.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking
about the clothes soiled with
s.emen. He said that 'Aisha had
said, "I used to wash it off the
clothes of Allah's Apostle and he
would go for the prayers while
water spots were still visible on
them.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Numb
Narrated 'Aisha:
[size=13pt]The Prophet and I used to take a
bath from a single pot while we
were Junub. During the menses,
he used to order me to put on an
Izar (dress worn below the waist)
and used to F.ONDLE me. While in
Itikaf, he used to bring his head
near me and I would wash it while
I used to be in my periods
(MENSES). [/size]


Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3460:
Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased
with them) reported: 'Abdullah
died and he left (behind him) nine
or seven daughters. I married a
woman who had been previously
married. Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said to me:
Jabir, have you married? I said:
Yes. He (again) said: A virgin or
one previously married? I said:
Messenger of Allah, with one who
was previously married,
whereupon he said:[size=13pt] Why didn't
you marry a young girl so that
you could sport with her and she
could sport with you, [/size]
or you could
amuse with her and she could
amuse with you? I said to him:
'Abdullah died (he fell as martyr in
Uhud) and left nine or seven
daughters behind him; I,
therefore, did not approve of the
idea that I should bring a (girl)
like them, but I preferred to bring
a woman who should look after
them and teach them good
manners, whereupon he (Allah's
Messenger) said: May Allah bless
you, or he supplicated (for the)
good (to be) conferred on me (by
Allah).
(mayahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311:


absolutely disgusting. Its simply Muslims doing what the hadith and quran teaches them.





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What's ur take on this. Pro or anti pedophilia.

When you answer where the mountain the devil took Jesus to and showed the entire world then you would get an answer! instead of hiding in the politics section dodging my thread!

Child sexual relationship in the West!




Source

Age of consent in Christendom!

13 - Spain
14 - Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Macedonia, Montenegro, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia
15 -Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Greece, Iceland, Monaco, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden
16 - Andorra, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Moldova, Netherlands, Northern Cyprus, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom
17 - Cyprus, Ireland
18 - Malta, Turkey, Vatican City

Cymbal:
Child marriage is totally wrong and should be scrapped entirely!!!.....this will alleviate Poverty.

Okay. Let's assume you are correct. @underlined, would also say this of "celebrities" and other famous people whose underage daughters also got pregnant (no marriage) for assailants, boyfriends etc?.

Ifeann:
S
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)
reported that [size=16pt]Allah's Apostle
peace be upon him) married her
when she was seven years old,
and he was taken to his house as
a bride when she was nine, and
her dolls were with her; [/size]
and when
he (the Holy Prophet) died she
was eighteen years old.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking
about the clothes soiled with
s.emen. He said that 'Aisha had
said, "I used to wash it off the
clothes of Allah's Apostle and he
would go for the prayers while
water spots were still visible on
them.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Numb
Narrated 'Aisha:
[size=13pt]The Prophet and I used to take a
bath from a single pot while we
were Junub. During the menses,
he used to order me to put on an
Izar (dress worn below the waist)
and used to F.ONDLE me. While in
Itikaf, he used to bring his head
near me and I would wash it while
I used to be in my periods
(MENSES). [/size]


Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3460:
Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased
with them) reported: 'Abdullah
died and he left (behind him) nine
or seven daughters. I married a
woman who had been previously
married. Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said to me:
Jabir, have you married? I said:
Yes. He (again) said: A virgin or
one previously married? I said:
Messenger of Allah, with one who
was previously married,
whereupon he said:[size=13pt] Why didn't
you marry a young girl so that
you could sport with her and she
could sport with you, [/size]
or you could
amuse with her and she could
amuse with you? I said to him:
'Abdullah died (he fell as martyr in
Uhud) and left nine or seven
daughters behind him; I,
therefore, did not approve of the
idea that I should bring a (girl)
like them, but I preferred to bring
a woman who should look after
them and teach them good
manners, whereupon he (Allah's
Messenger) said: May Allah bless
you, or he supplicated (for the)
good (to be) conferred on me (by
Allah).
(mayahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311:


absolutely disgusting. Its simply Muslims doing what the hadith and quran teaches them.





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What's ur take on this. Pro or anti pedophilia.

Wait what ?. I dont see any evidence of any sexual activities here. I think the fact she was on her period was said to highlight that physically she was no longer a child.

This shows she is well educated...Kudos! May God strengthen you ma

YourMain:


Wait what ?. I dont see any evidence of any sexual activities here. I think the fact she was on her period was said to highlight that physically she was no longer a child.

@underlined, very simple. Please, reiterate the sentence to her. She has comprehension problem

Empiree:
@underlined, very simple. Please, reiterate the sentence to her. She has comprehension problem

Mhm yeah lol she was probably a lot more intellectually and emotionally mature than the average 9 year old today.

mmsen:


Why do you keep jumping on practices that are widely condemned to use by comparison?

We hear about these baby factories because the police investigate them because people report them in disgust.

These are people readily identified as criminals, no one is defending their practices.

Comparing a judicially sanctioned act with a culturally accepted yet barbaric practice is nonsensical.

Child marriage is sanctioned by the religious authorities in the north and is never condemned by the big political actors in that region.

You keep repeating nonsense as if you have a point to make, the truth is you do not.

Go and hug a transformer.

I'm bout to go on that niqqa FB, and troll the shlt out of him. the assessment that a large number of Nigerians suffer from mental illnesses is true
and the evidence is all around us.

mmsen:

"Why do you keep jumping on practices that are widely condemned to use by comparison?
We hear about these baby factories because the police investigate them because people report them in disgust.
These are people readily identified as criminals, no one is defending their practices.
Comparing a judicially sanctioned act with a culturally accepted yet barbaric practice is nonsensical.
Child marriage is sanctioned by the religious authorities in the north and is never condemned by the big political actors in that region.
You keep repeating nonsense as if you have a point to make, the truth is you do not.

THEA RECENT HISTORY OF YOUR MASTERS
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The English common law had traditionally set the age of consent within the range of 10 to 12, but in 1875 the age was raised to 13. After intense sensational media revelations about the scourge of under-age prostitution in London in the 1880s caused respectable middle-class outrage, the age of consent was raised to 16 in 1885. Early feminists of the Social Purity movement such as Josephine Butler and others, instrumental in securing the repeal of the Contagious Diseases Acts, began to turn towards the problem of child prostitution by the end of the 1870s.

The investigative journalist William Thomas Stead of the Pall Mall Gazette was pivotal in exposing the problem of child prostitution in the London underworld through a publicity stunt. In 1885 he "purchased" one victim, Eliza Armstrong the 13-year-old daughter of a chimney sweep, for £5 and took her to a brothel where she was drugged. He then published a series of four exposés entitled The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon, which shocked its readers with tales of child prostitution and the abduction, procurement and sale of young English virgins to Continental "pleasure palaces". The "Maiden Tribute" was an instant hit with the public. Victorian society was thrown into an uproar about prostitution. Fearing riots on a national scale, the Home Secretary, Sir William Harcourt pleaded in vain with Stead to cease publication of the articles. A wide variety of reform groups held protest meetings and marched together to Hyde Park demanding that the age of consent be raised. The government was forced to pass the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 that raised the age of consent to 16 and clamped down on prostitution.[7]

In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10–12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal minimum age to at least 16, with the ultimate goal to raise the age to 18. The campaign was successful, with almost all states raising the minimum age to 16–18 years by 1920.[4][10]

In France, Portugal, Denmark and the Swiss cantons and other countries, the minimum age was raised to between 13 and 16 years in the following decades.[4] Though the original arguments for raising the age of consent were based on morality, since then the raison d'être of the laws has changed to child welfare and a so-called right to childhood or innocence.[11]

In France, under the Napoleonic Code the age of consent was set in 1832 at 11,[12] and was raised to 13 in 1863.[13] It was increased to 15 in 1945.[14]"

mmsen:


Why do you keep jumping on practices that are widely condemned to use by comparison?

We hear about these baby factories because the police investigate them because people report them in disgust.

These are people readily identified as criminals, no one is defending their practices.

Comparing a judicially sanctioned act with a culturally accepted yet barbaric practice is nonsensical.

Child marriage is sanctioned by the religious authorities in the north and is never condemned by the big political actors in that region.

You keep repeating nonsense as if you have a point to make, the truth is you do not.

Southern hypocrisy, Their fathers and grandfathers have seventeen wives each , but when you talk of polygamy they point to the north.

It is the same with child abuse.

AnanseK:


Southern hypocrisy, Their fathers and grandfathers have seventeen wives each , but when you talk of polygamy they point to the north.

It is the same with child abuse.

This is about statutory rape, not polygamy - two very different issues.

Only the north has a problem with the Child Rights Act. Fistula rates are far higher in the north as a result as are rates of maternal/infant mortality.

The fact is that girls in northern Nigeria are treated like chattel, sold into marriage by their irresponsible parents.


P.S.
You gave list of nations that have an age of consent below the age of 18, that is very different from the marriageable age which is 18 in most nations.

I am very sure those yeye Hausa men have never in their lives gone to twitter to speak against Boko Haram or corruption or nepotism or anything else that makes sense.
When it comes to sleeping with underage kids that's when their proactive side starts showing.
Foolish cattle rearers with their malu brain.

mmsen:

This is about statutory rape, not polygamy - two very different issues.
Only the north has a problem with the Child Rights Act. Fistula rates are far higher in the north as a result as are rates of maternal/infant mortality.
The fact is that girls in northern Nigeria are treated like chattel, sold into marriage by their irresponsible parents.
P.S.
You gave list of nations that have an age of consent below the age of 18, that is very different from the marriageable age which is 18 in most nations.

Hypocrite , do you rape those pure water seller girls with consent?

fellis:
I am very sure those yeye Hausa men have never in their lives gone to twitter to speak against Boko Haram or corruption or nepotism or anything else that makes sense.
When it comes to sleeping with underage kids that's when their proactive side starts showing.
Foolish cattle rearers with their malu brain.

And you see nothing wrong with baby factories which are part of the transformation , a flourishing trade in the SE.

AnanseK:

Hypocrite , do you rape those pure water seller girls with consent?

Rape is a criminal offence in the south.

Statutory rape is not recognised in the north, a grown man can defile a girl of 10 and then marry her as if there were no crime.

That is the difference.

Your reasoning skills are appalling.

mmsen:

Rape is a criminal offence in the south.
Statutory rape is not recognised in the north, a grown man can defile a girl of 10 and then marry her as if there were no crime.
That is the difference.
Your reasoning skills are appalling.

Your imaginary north. You have been brain washed.
When did the southern civilization begin?

The word " statutory " you keep repeating does not exist in your dialect.

AnanseK:


Your imaginary north. You have been brain washed.
When did the southern civilization begin?

The word " statutory " you keep repeating does not exist in your dialect.

It's not where you begin that matters, it is where you end up.

If you are still battling polio in 2015.

Fistula in 2015.

Mass illiteracy in 2015.

Malnutrition in 2015.

Then you are a failed entity.

The average Northern Hausa-Fulani Muslim man believes it is his right and destiny to dominate at all times! This heart-felt burning desire was expressed by all to see via the 1.9million Kano votes for GMB...a brother

Northerners are taking this Aisha's common sense suggestion personal because of a fundamental Islamic belief by adherents that "Islam shall dominate the earth"... How are they supposed to mass-produce foot soldiers in their quest for world domination if they are denied unfettered access to the child-making machines (women). They are so much in a hurry that they don't if their girl child dies in childbirth, lacks an education to face life challenges, contracts diseases, etc.

They have forgotten than our humanity comes first.

As far as I am concerned, marrying your child off before 18 is not justifiable in a 21st century world. We cannot be using archaic doctrines of the 5th century to lead out lives today.

Those Hausa-Fulani men never speak up against unemployment, poor educational systems, poor governance, PHCN, corruption etc. They don't even care about their girl child...

They are only concerned about vag.ina and how to consummate the youngest ones!

Lmao. This thing between a woman's legs and Muslim men is serious. Especially the fanatics. Why are you so lustful that you can't wait till a child is mature to decide if she wants you. Are you afraid that she will be smarter than you? Are you too dumb to appreciate a woman's intelligence? Are you afraid that anatomy wise you will not measure up or be able to satisfy your wife Look at these pedophiles. No wonder Boko haram is decimating you. Educate a girl child and you automatically educate her whole family line. It will reduce poverty, unwanted children and pregnancies and reduce Boko haram menace. No girl could be married before learning a working trade and attaining adult age. It is abuse. It exposes the woman to a lifetime of hardship. So what if the husband dies and this girl is still 14. What happens to her. Or she has this VVf issue You abandon her and find a younger wife. Yet you will educate your own girl children. Thunder fire you useless men that engage in this. Dirty pigs. Yet they will keep concubines and infect these unfortunate girls with HiV and the likes. Promiscuity my left yansh.

Empiree:
Okay. Let's assume you are correct. @underlined, would also say this of "celebrities" and other famous people whose underage daughters also got pregnant (no marriage) for assailants, boyfriends etc?.

I want you to understand the fact that there is no way the so called *underage mother* will be able to take proper care of the kid they r going to have even with all the riches..............Just imagine sum1 being taken care of now taking care of someone else..........

Cymbal:

I want you to understand the fact that there is no way the so called *underage mother* will be able to take proper care of the kid they r going to have even with all the riches..............Just imagine sum1 being taken care of now taking care of someone else..........

sorry, how does this answer my question?.

Islam's definition of "underage" is actually not what mainstream media portray. So my definition of it is definitely different from what these hypocrites think.

Again, how does your post answer my question?.

mmsen:


It's not where you begin that matters, it is where you end up.

If you are still battling polio in 2015.

Fistula in 2015.

Mass illiteracy in 2015.

Malnutrition in 2015.

Then you are a failed entity.

A primitive base with no real societal value development gives you these ends;

Death sentences in Indonesia for drug offenses

Large population of the community in Chinese jails

South African armed robber gangs

In NDLEA net for drug courier crimes

sex slaves Prostitutes in Italy and Europe ( no morality)

Baby factories at home

Kidnapping as a means of livelihood

419

Fake drugs manufacture , killing to make money

And freelance in any crime at home or abroad.

I don't envy you

Empiree:
sorry, how does this answer my question?.

Islam's definition of "underage" is actually not what mainstream media portray. So my definition of it is definitely different from what these hypocrites think.

Again, how does your post answer my question?.

Stop being blinded by Religion and face Reality......*Look deep into the post. The answer is absolutely somewhere expecting you to look in its direction.....

AnanseK:


A primitive base with no real societal value development gives you these ends;

Death sentences in Indonesia for drug offenses

Large population of the community in Chinese jails

South African armed robber gangs

In NDLEA net for drug courier crimes

sex slaves Prostitutes in Italy and Europe ( no morality)

Baby factories at home

Kidnapping as a means of livelihood

419

Fake drugs manufacture , killing to make money

And freelance in any crime at home or abroad.

I don't envy you

Those issues of criminality are a problem in every society.

What is unique is fistula, polio, illiteracy and malnutrition. Those are inexcusable in 2015. Only the most backwards of societies suffer such ailments.