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Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by scholes0(m): 2:01pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: You will not accept what the white man says, yet you imbibed his ideas and his culture (which are basically a set of ideas) , and now practice it as if it was originally yours... by the way, engage in a real discussion and stop asking infantile questions. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:02pm On May 20, 2015 |
This is how Alaafin of Oyo sold out and pacified his kingsmen for 200 bags of cowries.
Betrayal is in their genes! 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by scholes0(m): 2:03pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: Oh so now the question has totally deviated from the original premise of the thread.... ? Very soon you will be "schooled" again, and the question will deviate even further. |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by sigain: 2:06pm On May 20, 2015 |
Oleeeeee, go look for your own lagoon in the east if there's any and stop dreaming in another tribes belonging. south south no belong to u. counterfeit pple. AlfaSeltzer: |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 2:07pm On May 20, 2015 |
scholes0: scholes biko hapum aka am not the OP, i only gave my own answer and cautioned him on his insults until oduavanguard came with proofs to debunk my assertions. he eventually went into insults and i returned it dose for dose cos he was targeting my tribe. since you are matured and ready for discuss maturely, am good to go. what was the pre-colonial struggle of the south westerners in Nigerian not continued by their descendants 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:09pm On May 20, 2015 |
sigain: I though you people wanted us in the Lagoon? Anyway stop selling your land to us. 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by OduaVanguard: 2:11pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: You are a big ffool Mr. I have made my position about your desired secession from Nigeria clear. I don't give two ffucks about you or your people. You are not adding any value to me personally nor to Nigeria as a collective, IMHO. The Oil you keep blabbing about belongs to the South South peoples for the most part and the SE contribution is negligible (at best) -- at least it's not enough to raise you lot out of poverty. Your SE is a depressing locale to inhabit as is evident in the way you all escape from that hell-hole at the slightest opportunity. You talk about my "forbearers were cowards for having a worthless cause". That aptly describes the entire Biafra enterprise. A pipe-dream that resulted in the slaughter of an estimated 3million Igbos, who ended up losing the war, and your Ojukwu had to leave you all to your fate by absconding to the Ivory Coast (puts the 'C' in coward). My people refused to be duped into a war we weren't prepared to fight -- that was SMART -- while you all sacrificed yourselves over a WORTHLESS CAUSE. I call it worthless coz (1)it failed, (2)it failed (for emphasis) . Face it, you are nothing but a bunch of failures. 8 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by iboTOTOdeySM3LL: 2:12pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi:the same way ojuku of cursed memory abandoned your starving biafran parents when he ran away to abidjan. See as kwashiorkor take finish your useless mama 5 Likes
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Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by OduaVanguard: 2:13pm On May 20, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer: If you call that betrayal, what do you then call Ojukwu's abandonment of his people for the safe comforts of the Ivory Coast? You people are hopeless. Period. Smh. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:14pm On May 20, 2015 |
OduaVanguard: If "a bunch of failures" can get you worked up like this, you are worse than failure. Of what use is your existence if I may ask? 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Eshinwaju: 2:14pm On May 20, 2015 |
a pipul with no known history or development....want to talk... .. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by scholes0(m): 2:15pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: Okay, since you choose to show your maturity , back to your questions... What exactly is a "struggle".... A struggle is dictated by the prevailing conditions of the time. If the conditions change, needs follow suit, and if needs change, the definition of a "struggle" will undergo a proportional and almost instant metamorphosis .... Are you following? The struggle of the Yoruba in Today's Nigeria is not the same as the struggle of the 1800's or 19'00s ..... that should be obvious. So unless you are talking about something else, I believe i have adequately nourished your hunger for answers..... if at all it is genuine. 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:15pm On May 20, 2015 |
OduaVanguard: Ojukwu fought a war with his own money. Alaafin sold out his people for 20 bags of cowshit. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Babalegba(m): 2:15pm On May 20, 2015 |
WombRaiders:Clownish thread. What exactly did your forefathers agitation achieve, total and unconditional surrender.Ibos were extremely primitive in those days and lacked central leadership, a prerequisite for civilization so any agitation was purely primitive primal instinct. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:18pm On May 20, 2015 |
scholes0: I agree with the bolded but it is the same yoruba gene that is doing the struggle and the only thing it is good at is taking bribes to betray. From your alaafin in 1888 to today's turncoat SW pdp, passing through awolowo, the obas against Abiola, etc, etc. 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by iboTOTOdeySM3LL: 2:20pm On May 20, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer:You ibos are so foolish, an ant is wiser than you all. Ojuku fought a war with his own money, he and his family were eating well and looking healthy while you foolish biafrans were begging those whom you were fighting against to give you food 4 Likes
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Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by scholes0(m): 2:21pm On May 20, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer: Lol.... you are below me..... Hence, I will not engage you in any tangible exchange of Ideas. |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by scholes0(m): 2:23pm On May 20, 2015 |
iboTOTOdeySM3LL: looool.... How ironic well... such is life. Sometimes The people thought to be heroes, are actually the real villains of the fold. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by OduaVanguard: 2:26pm On May 20, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer: Alaafin as paramount ruler of his people represented them by cutting a deal with the Brits, to spare them from an unnecessary war and further needless loss of lives. You call that cowardly, I call that PRAGMATIC LEADERSHIP/WISDOM! ATLEAST HE WAS FORTHRIGHT AND HONOURABLE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN TO STOP FIGHTING! Ojukwu RAN AWAY!!!! He didn't even negotiate a peaceful end to the suffering of his helpless people, whom he duped into a NEEDLESS and WORTHLESS war! In the end nothing was achieved that couldn't have been achieved via negotiations. Think about it -- those 3-million souls could be alive today and living productive lives. Use your brain for once! 6 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 2:26pm On May 20, 2015 |
scholes0: are you sure it is not fear that led to this change you are talking about?. going by your logic, your aims wear reached hence you backed down, is it wrong for those whose target is yet to be reached to keep striving ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 2:26pm On May 20, 2015 |
Babalegba: I am not ibo you slave 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 2:27pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: Fool I am not ibo |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 2:29pm On May 20, 2015 |
The slaves are yet to mention one pre colonial figure from their slave empire |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by hahn(m): 2:30pm On May 20, 2015 |
OduaVanguard: Touche! 3 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 2:32pm On May 20, 2015 |
WombRaiders: wake up pls, nody cares whether you are ibo or not. stop the insults, that was my first reponse to you on this thread. |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by scholes0(m): 2:32pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: Did you read my rebuttal at all? Aims change, Goals change, and targets change as well..... Once upon a time, USA southern states were fighting for secession, today they are almost all fully integrated in the USA, except for a few 0.5 percenters here and there..... Once upon a time, Maasai were the dominating culture of Southern Kenya, Today, they are fighting for cultural preservation.... hundreds of examples out there. So unless you come out explicit and explain what exactly you are trying to get at, I will not be able to give you the reply you might need. And what fear are you talking about exactly? 4 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by after1: 2:40pm On May 20, 2015 |
Yeeboes and there foolishness. They will open a thread to insult other tribes and still scream "people hate us and jealous of us" Yeebhoes are cursed hypocrite. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by after1: 2:44pm On May 20, 2015 |
OduaVanguard: Yeeboes are trouble makers. They will scream to the mod soon, people from that worthless tribe are hypocrites. |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by ayokellany: 3:06pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: Just the your father with each n every Igbo that's a father who abandoned the starvation n death the retard of a general Ojukwu put your entire trip through by leading your tribemen to their doom without having the initiative to make adequate provision for food. What a foolishh set of human n race. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 3:14pm On May 20, 2015 |
aguiyi: Shatap and give me a single name Now that was my real intention Slave |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by Nobody: 3:15pm On May 20, 2015 |
ayokellany: Mention one pre colonial figure coward slave |
Re: Why Are There No Pre-colonial Opposition Figures From Odua? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 3:37pm On May 20, 2015 |
OduaVanguard: Pragmatic wisdom to you guys is surrendering without firing a single bullet as soon you saw Hausa soldiers. Governor Carter was not the man to leave his work half done. The refractory and irreconcilable Ijebus had been subjeugated; the Egbas had submitted and their apologies accepted. He now proceeded to the further interior to put an end to the protracted war, fraught with so much evil to the country. The measure adopted for this purpose was the only one capable of dispersing suchfierce combatants, viz., an armed intervention advocated for by the writer all through these wearisome years. Although it might not be necessary to pull a trigger, yet a display of force offered a far more convincing weight of argument than volumes of treaties, faultless though these may be in aim and purpose. The presence of the Governor himself gave additional weight and importance to the Mission. Governor Carter left Lagos on the 3rd January 1893, for his tour. He was accompanied by a posse of Hausa soldiers, with Captain Bower, one of the officers who came out for the Ijebu war. The Maxim gun was en evidence throughout the whole way. |
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