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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:08am On May 22, 2015 |
agaugust: Turned out the Angola thing was BS The answer to your question depends on your definition of "carrier" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:40am On May 22, 2015 |
pavri: Since when have you decided to change your citizenship? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:47am On May 22, 2015 |
patches689: Angola, a country with only 1000 personnel in her Navy and only small crafts wanted an Air craft carrier. The Angolan B.S was knocked back to reality. They've even had to cancel their OPV contracts from brazil. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:53am On May 22, 2015 |
agaugust: Although i do not see the possibility of an African country operating an Aircraft carrier, if i'm to speculate, the only countries who realistically can afford an Aircraft carrier are Algeria and Egypt. The Egyptians can only afford one if, Saudi-Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Kuwait are paying for it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 8:12am On May 22, 2015 |
[quote author=jln115 post=33974819][/quote] Fucken fraudulent that's what u r !the picture u posted even converted to jpeg and enlarged its hard to see ? The url u can't even see ...... Why not post the link. So that every body can access ?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:22am On May 22, 2015 |
Let's if we can have a proper discussion. U.S training and Counter-terrorism operations. This has boggled my mind for a long time, but i have only been reminded by Igbi's (Patriot04's) comment. -I mean, this is no news. Outside the media propaganda and blitz of CNN and other American/ british news networks, The U.S Counter-terrorism approach is very ineffective. Why do you guys think this is so, why is the U.S method achieving so little so insignificant results? - U.S Training, this has also been another area of concern. U.S trained forces never seem to do well in battle. U.S trained countries always are better equipped than the "enemy", with better odds than the enemy, however in actual battle, they are always the first to flee or get defeated. The South-Koreans, Filipinos, Cuban trained dissidents "bay of pigs", the Iraqi's, U.S trained FSA in Syria, the Malian army, Indonesian troops in East-Timor, Central Americans...... etc etc are just a few examples. U.S military aid looks much better on paper, than in practice. Why is this so? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:57am On May 22, 2015 |
bidexiii:Have posted the fvcking link multiple time mate! its not my fault your blind as fvcking bat! http://www.military-intellisense.com/air/ah2rooivalk.html 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 10:10am On May 22, 2015 |
Henry120: i think one of the reasons is that the US doctrine focuses more on firepower than the man doing the fighting. (even though their spec ops operators are trained to be more effective) from vietnam, iraq, afghanistan etc... the US troops have always relied more on firepower. where they can't deploy them effectively, they get help from mercineries and militias to do the fighting for them. proof is iraq, afghanistan (allied forces had to go in to cover up their weaknesses), somalia etc to mention a few. so the problem to me starts from the trainer. US does not train it's infantry to fight hard but to depend on it's machine to do the fighting. so any country that can't afford these hardwares have these weaknesses exposed. and those who do... welll... the saudis, polish, s. korea etc just exposes the faults in the US military doctrines. France and Britain have better trained infantry soldiers than the US. they depend less in hardware and more on the man doung the fighting. remember the Nigerian army was very effective at the time they incorporated british doctrine for infantry training. thanks to the ugly monkey obj, our army becam less effective since we shifted to the US. that tells a lot 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:16am On May 22, 2015 |
Should SANDF be utilised as crime busters? The assignment which they are not tasked to perform. http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-05-20-domestic-threat-should-the-sandf-be-deployed-as-crime-fighters/#.VV7y5DPRY8o |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 10:57am On May 22, 2015 |
jln115:Uv got NO FUCKEN brains brats did u clink on that link before u paste it,click on the link or copy and paste the URl and see if its working ! Av told u, u'v got to proof to show us that ur rooivalks where the 1st to back-flip u south africans r fucken frauds ! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:00am On May 22, 2015 |
bidexiii: and the fool that liked his post... proves they don't read through anything before mouthing off. dumb people. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:05am On May 22, 2015 |
bidexiii:Well fvcking shame dude! it was working fine yesterday! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:08am On May 22, 2015 |
Here you go @bidexiii this link works: http://www.military-intellisense.com/air/ah2rooivalk.html 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:13am On May 22, 2015 |
stillchris:Heres a link for you to, as you can see, its working fine now! http://www.military-intellisense.com/air/ah2rooivalk.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 11:49am On May 22, 2015 |
jln115: There is no place where they say ur rooivalks can do back flips and the picture of the webpages ur SA friends is fruadulent even when converted to jpeg is not clear !!! U guys should accept defeat ! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 11:53am On May 22, 2015 |
Henry120: take the arguments to this thread www.nairaland.com/2306245/which-african-country-buy-aircraft |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:53am On May 22, 2015 |
bidexiii:If you cant read it, then you should seriously consider seeing a ophthalmologist 3 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by pavri: 12:02pm On May 22, 2015 |
I really don't understand Why It is so important for S. African people because backflip or Loop is done almost all type of helicopters with a specific power. Backflip capability of a copter doesn't give it an advantage or disadvatages. It is just an artistic move to be done at fairs or shows. In battlefield, There is not such a luxury or time to do such a needless thing. Put attack helicopters aside, It is Turkish Skorsky BlackHawk utility helicopter doing back flip in 1990. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:10pm On May 22, 2015 |
pavri:Uhm...When did any of us say it was an advantage? I was purely pointing out that when the Rooivalk came out, it was the only helicopter able to preform a loop/Backflip! 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:52pm On May 22, 2015 |
Henry120: You forget that thailand could afford to buy a carrier Its not fully utilized - but that is more to do with a lack of political will to spend funds on it when the military has more pressing concerns |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:10pm On May 22, 2015 |
pavri: Nice information. Thanks a million. It's almost certain Nigeria will buy a squadron or two of the T-129 ATAK.....Attacker ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 1:21pm On May 22, 2015 |
jln115: LIAR that's what u r, why not accept easily dude, don't you see how u sound .... Funny ! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 1:23pm On May 22, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kemdaniels: 1:45pm On May 22, 2015 |
This pavri guy really sound like he's marketing something out here.:-D;-) 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:07pm On May 22, 2015 |
stillchris: Exactly!!! The U.S doctrine focuses on an over-reliance of Firepower and air-support. It is the machine, not the man that does the fighting. It works for the U.S perfectly since they have a 700 billion dollars budget and a over 3000 fighter jets to call in. When this doctrine is transferred/ adopted by less rich Nations, there Armies seem to crumble when faced with a determined foe. The brits like you correctly pointed out are better trained Infantry men. In my opinion, they have the best Infantry in the world. Countries who adopt british tactics do better in combat than those of American. As for the French, i won't categorise the french in the same level as the british. The british Infantry is top to bottom better than the French. French over dependence on air-support was very apparent in Operation serval. 100 French Paratroopers armed with M.G's and High powered sniper rifles against 12 Jihadist still had to call in 30mm and Rocket fire from a Tiger gunship. The American disease was becoming a Nigerian military problem, when i read troops and some Nigerians always calling for Gunship support in the initial stages of the setback. It was very gratifying when the COAS came out emphatically and said, "It is the soldier, not the equipment that does the fighting". American training is window dressing, it does nothing and it achieves nothing. Even their S.F troops still have to depend on significant military support. That's for Training, Any thoughts American failed counter-terrorism, only 2-3 years after they left Iraq, they are back, with members of Al-qeada in Iraq, now ISIS controlling at some point 60% of Iraq, and still holding up to 50% of Syria. The Taliban still controls large swats of land in Afghanistan with almost daily bombings despite an initial surge of U.S troops. - the Pakistani Taliban and alqeada are still very effective. - alqeada in Yemen is now stronger than ever. - Alqeada now has a significant offshoot in the indian sub-continent. - ISIL in Libya controls all of sirte and significant part of the country. -Ansar Bait al-Maqdis, ansar al-sharia in Egypt and the sinai peninsula are still very active. - Al-shabbab despite drone attacks and Special forces raids is still capable of launching attacks in Somalian green zones. - the militants in the Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia are still very active despite U.S support. - AQAP is still strong. It is very obvious U.S counter-terrorism operations have failed and relative successes have been overblown in the U.S media. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 2:09pm On May 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Yes they should, Civilian have a greater fear of Soldiers than they do of the Police. Civilians and criminals don't Police Officers, while Soldiers are seen as the no nonsense or mercy kind of force. Remember what happened in Cape Town *GangLand* when Soldiers were deployed there and crime rate decreased by more than 70% in less than two weeks. It shouldn't be a permanent thing, but a show of force to criminals. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:18pm On May 22, 2015 |
patches689: I don't consider buying and storing an equipment as been able to afford one. Anybody can shell out 600 million for a small sized aircraft carrier, but how many can afford to keep it at sea and it's support fleet? That thai white elephant spends most time at the docks than at sea, and has never operated any fixed wing aircrafts on it. That isn't been able to afford one. There are better, more important capability gaps to fill than the charade Angola was trying to pull. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:23pm On May 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Using the military for crime and park protection duties simply means the police or which ever agency is in charge of protection has failed. I do not support deploying military for crime and park assignments. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:07pm On May 22, 2015 |
Patches689, you r3tard! How does $21,000 a bomb, at 1000 airstrikes on a small town equal success? Patchy the pirate....... despite U.S and coalition air strikes on ramadi, baghdadi's goons have taken over the town. Once again, your theory of Fighter jets been effective as CAS has fallen flat on it's face. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:19pm On May 22, 2015 |
bidexiii:
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:20pm On May 22, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:24pm On May 22, 2015 |
agaugust:You also said it was almost certain that Nigeria would buy the JF-17,T80, Super Tucano, Bofors Archer,SU30 ect ect ect |
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