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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:29pm On May 24, 2015 |
agaugust:1. Forum 2. Blog 3. Link doesn't work. Thus not a single source that Nigeria received any T80s(BTW the T84 is a T80) 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:37pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:And you don't know the difference between an Oryx and Super Puma. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:1, SAAF flies the Oryx not the Super Puma 2, Rejected by Turkey only, and beat bids from Boeing,Westland,Eurocopter. Secondly if the Rooivalk is French then the Igirigi is American/German. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:45pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:In that case, same applies to your Igirigi. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:47pm On May 24, 2015 |
lionel4power:What? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:09pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: Seems your brain gets stuck at each point I educate you, once I stop educating you, your brain freezes on that spot Hey goat, your South African defenceweb went further to say there was report of sighting the Super Tucano in Nigerian air force base, that was after the INTEREST story, you are lost in a village and starved of international news in your cage "There have been rumours that the Nigerian Air Force has taken delivery of Super Tucano light attack/trainer aircraft from Embraer. Apparently two were seen at Makurdi late last month, according to the Beegeagle blog. In November last year Nigerian Vice President Namadi Sambo expressed interest in purchasing the Super Tucano during a meeting with his Brazilian counterpart Michel Temer." http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34330 That was the time of evaluation-test flight inside Nigeria before the purchase was cancelled, even your defenceweb published it. Learn to google, He-Goat |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:16pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: Yes Nigeria has Bofors FH-77B, it's on SIPRI and even Patches cannot deny it on SIPRI database. Argument was 39 cal or 52 cal. Stop arguing about matters that you know nothing about, you jump into other peoples' argument you makes you look like a brainless He-Goat. T-84 is NOT an upgraded T-80. Learn to admit when you are wrong, e.g. SAAF Gripen has NO air to ground missiles even if a source says so, I corrected you, yet you keep refusing to agree you are wrong, have you ever seen Andrewza or Patches say SAAF has air to ground missile on Gripen jet? Learn to admit when you are clearly very wrong, you are the dumbest white man I have encountered in the last 12 months T-84 is Oplot, T-80 is not. T-84 has different engine and self defence mech in made in Ukraine. Learn to learn, or else you will fail accounting, it's got principles called principles of accounting, if you refuse to agree to those principle, your career in accounting will end in your first semester, they will transfer you to Theatre Arts department in another faculty . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:24pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: T-84 is NOT T-80, I just educated you earlier, are you a He-Goat ? Forum and Blog quote the Ukrainian website which is NOT a blog. The story was posted all over the world, with the photos of the tanks at the airport, confirmed heading to Nigeria. "While Ukrainian soldiers in the ATO area are in dire need of arms and military equipment, Ukraine is going to send to Nigeria two advanced battle tanks "Oplot", made in the Ukrainian Malyshev Plant in Kharkiv. Oleh Tytarenko, a lawyer and a member of the Shevchenko district (Kyiv) local defense informed about this, Censor.NET reports." He said that the tanks were supposed to fly to Nigeria yesterday, but due to problems with a Ruslan plane, the flight was delayed. According to Titarenko, this fact has caused a storm of indignation among the workers of the Antonov plant (at this time the tanks are at the plant's airport in Hostomel). The information on combat vehicles sending to Nigeria got leaked to the political circles that's why the tanks are still in Ukraine." http://defence.pk/threads/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria.334850/ The website is down, probably because the lawyer is fighting Ukrainian government for selling T-84 Oplot tanks to Nigeria. Last year the website was working and we all read it here, South Africans and Nigerians all read it and confirmed it befaore you came with your He-Goat brain |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:00pm On May 24, 2015 |
agaugust: Load shedding happens during day hours, to start off with. Secondly, it's controlled. Thirdly, it's no more than 2 hours at a time. Fourthly, Nigerians are lucky to have an hour of electricity. Fifthly, when they do get electricity in Nigeria, it is not even strong enough to produce an ice-cube in the fridge. 1300 MW. 170 million people. Be ashamed. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:03pm On May 24, 2015 |
stillchris: Do you even know what "paper report" means? Can you even describe that? You can't because you are parroting stuff. In Africa, Nigeria's is ranked in the 20s by HDI. It is a low-HDI country, meaning when measured, it is close to being inhabitable and hopeless. There is nothing that you can come up with that hasn't already been included in the measures. Are you even able to take a shower, my friend? I doubt that very much. With your hot weather, dead air conditioners, stationary cars and inability to take a hot shower, Nigeria must be smelling quite funky right now. You're talking about a warning when Nigeria has already been downgraded FURTHER into junk. Two levels below junk already. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0703eb54-cf37-11e4-b761-00144feab7de.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:11pm On May 24, 2015 |
Denel ISM upgrading Joint Air Reconnaissance Intelligence Centre in conjunction with Airbus In its first new project, Denel Integrated Systems & Maritime (Denel ISM), supported by Airbus Defence and Space, is equipping the South African Air Force’s (SAAF’s) Joint Air Reconnaissance Intelligence Centre (JARIC) with image analysis tools. Airbus Defence and Space will deliver various components of its ACTINT (ACTionable INTelligence) reconnaissance evaluation software to Denel ISM, which as prime contractor and system integrator will create a system tailored to the SAAF’s needs. Deliveries to Denel ISM are scheduled to be concluded beginning 2016, Denel said in a statement issued today. Airbus provides various ACTINT services from satellite images, ground stations, maps and image analysis to data storage and distribution. “ACTINT is a software tool for acquisition, processing and dissemination of information. It provides security and defence forces with dedicated information based on raw data from different intelligence sources and specific data bases,” the Denel statement said. However, what Airbus will deliver is not a turnkey solution as Denel ISM will use various components to build a South Africa-specific system. “Based on our longstanding cooperation with the world’s most advanced armed forces, we have developed extremely refined image evaluation algorithms,” said Evert Dudok, Head of the Communications, Intelligence and Security Business Line at Airbus Defence and Space. “This capability provides our customers with an extraordinarily precise and comprehensive situation picture in near-real time.” “We are very excited to be playing a lead role in this project,” said Ismail Dockrat, CEO of recently established Denel Group division Denel ISM. “This project builds on our track record on the GBADS (Ground Based Air Defence System) programme. It fits in with one of our key strategic objectives, which is to be custodian of sovereign capabilities for the Department of Defence and to play a lead systems integration role in this environment.” JARIC was established in 1967 at AFB Swartkop and in 1988 became the unit responsible for Air Intelligence and Counter-Intelligence training in the SAAF, a task previously performed by the Air Force College. It was later transferred to Air Force Base Waterkloof in 1990. JARIC’s three main roles are image intelligence (exploitation of imagery, from diverse imagery sources within and outside the military, with the specific purpose of producing image intelligence for the SANDF), image intelligence support (supplying imagery-based geo-spatial information to the SANDF) and air intelligence training. The Department of Defence us upgrading/replacing the military image interpretation and exploitation capability at JARIC under Project Achilles, which was launched in 2004 to ensure that JARIC remained up to date with the latest technology. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:14pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: Buhahahahahahahaha....... your Half-french AH is an obsolete piece of junk!!!! when the war in Angola ended in 1988 and the then South African government began to cut the defence budget. The first Rooivalk proto- type made its maiden flight only in 1990. Budget cuts inflicted further delays on the programme, and the planned acquisition was cut from 36 to only 12. This deprived the programme of the benefits of economies of scale. reportedly hailed by all who have flown it. It is also ideal for operations in Africa. But its avionics system, a magnificent achievement for local industry when it was developed and integrated in the late 1980s, is today as obsolete as a dinosaur’s brain. This is a key reason in Denel’s failure to export the aircraft. No one will buy a warplane whose avionics system is based on 20-year-old computers. Export possibilities have been further reduced by foreign worries about the long-term viability of Denel: will the company still be around in 20 years to continue to support the Rooivalk, if they should buy it? And then there is the fact that the Rooivalk is very heavily dependent on French technology, now the property of Eurocopter, yet Denel tried to export the Rooivalk not only without Eurocopter’s prior agreement and support, but actually in open competition (for example, in Australia) with Eurocopter’s own Tiger. http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:17pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: The SAAF flies a Super-Puma, this is a statistical fact!!!! [b]The then South African Defence Force saw a real need for an attack helicopter, in order to escort and support heliborne raiding forces, destroy anti-aircraft positions, and meet the potential threat of growing tank forces in other African countries, particularly Angola. Equipped with anti-tank missiles, such a helicopter could neutralise numerically superior hostile tank forces. But – and this is a very important point – South Africa could not design and build a complete helicopter from scratch. The design, development and manufacture of the necessary powerplant and dynamics system (rotor head, main and tail rotors, and main and tail gearboxes) were beyond this country’s capabilities. Acquiring such capabilities would have been extremely time consuming and incredibly expensive, rendering the project totally impractical. So the new machine had to be based on an existing design, as far as its power plants and dynamics were concerned. the Super Puma, which first flew in late 1978. This led to South Africa’s developing and successfully executing a project to produce a new helicopter that was a hybrid of the Puma and the Super Puma – the Denel Oryx. The Oryx has a fuselage that is longer than that of the Puma but shorter than that of the Super Puma, and was fitted with the powerplants, dynamics systems, and tail boom of the Super Puma (later, military versions of the Super Puma were redesignated Cougar). As the French were allowing South Africa to use the powerplants and dynamics of the Super Puma, they would surely have agreed to the South Africans using the same elements from the Dauphin. However, the SAAF felt that using the same engines and dynamics as the Oryx would simplify logistics and reduce maintenance costs, so the decision was made to use the Super Puma systems as the basis for the Rooivalk. [/b] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:17pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: Rejected by the U.K, Australia, Malaysia, Turkey, Singapore etc etc 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:26pm On May 24, 2015 |
agaugust:Yes the T84 is just an upgraded T80. Secondly please read the bold: There have been rumours that the Nigerian Air Force has taken delivery of Super Tucano light attack/trainer aircraft from Embraer. Apparently two were seen at Makurdi late last month, according to the Beegeagle blog http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34330 As you can see, Defenceweb confirmed nothing, it was just the same old resident r3tard Augustine who rushes to conclusions without reading his sources properly. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:27pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: Your Half-French AH isn't french because it has a french engine...... no, no, no, it is French because it is heavily dependent on French technology, components and Sub-components. It is the first French Helicopter built outside France. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:29pm On May 24, 2015 |
agaugust:1. T84 is just an upgraded t80 2. Stop posting forums as your source, otherwise ill start using Nairaland as a source. 3. Your source said nothing about Nigeria receiving T80s/T84s 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:33pm On May 24, 2015 |
agaugust:1. Nope you said Nigeria has Bofors FH--77BW/Bofors Archer 2Yes a T84 is an upgraded t80 "career in accounting will end in your first semester, they will transfer you to Theatre Arts department in another faculty" Im actually doing my CTA and Honours next year, 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:43pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:Look at the date of your source, the Rooivalk only entered service 4 years after this article was written, all our Rooivalk were upgraded to MK1f standard when it entered service in 2011 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:46pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:Thanks for providing this source, it proves exactly what ive been saying the whole time, the Oryx is not a Super Puma. produce a new helicopter that was a hybrid of the Puma and the Super Puma – the Denel Oryx. The Oryx has a fuselage that is longer than that of the Puma but shorter than that of the Super Puma, and was fitted with the powerplants, dynamics systems, and tail boom of the Super Puma (later, military versions of the Super Puma were redesignated Cougar).[/color] 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:49pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:SAAF flies the Oryx. Rooivalk only competed in 1 bid and that was for the Turkish AH program, Denel beat the likes of Boeing,Westland,Eurocopter and only lost due to Eurocopters refusal to supply engine and gearbox parts 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:50pm On May 24, 2015 |
Henry120:Just like your Igirigi!! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by pavri: 10:55pm On May 24, 2015 |
Nigerian Patrol Boat ARES-KND-30 produced by Turkey, delivered. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by pavri: 11:01pm On May 24, 2015 |
ARES Shipyard is proud to announce the completion and succesful delivery of two "ARES KND 30 FPB" brand fast patrol vessels. These 30m, aluminium vessels will be operating in Nigeria waters for costal safety and anti-smuggling operations by Nigeria Customs Service. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uI6rzHtrYY 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:07pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: Your MK1F standard is still 30 years behind what is currently available. It is still obsolete. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:11pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: The Oryx has a fuselage that is longer than that of the Puma but shorter than that of the Super Puma, and was fitted with the powerplants, dynamics systems, and tail boom of the Super Puma (later, military versions of the Super Puma were redesignated Cougar). This proves beyond all doubt that your medium lift Helicopter is a Super-Puma. Giving it a medium sized fuselage and a name change does nothing to change this fact. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:16pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: SAAF flies a Super Puma. My evidence proves this fact you r3tard! Your French AH was rejected by Australia, Malaysia, Turkey, the U.K and host of other countries. It is an obsolete piece of crap built with avionics that are over 30 years old. I like how you cowardly South-Africans have gone from blaming the Americans, to blaming the Turks, now to blaming the Original aircraft manufacturer, France!!! That's progress. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:18pm On May 24, 2015 |
jln115: SAAF AH is an obsolete French Helicopter, running on 30 years old avionics. Same as your medium lift Super-Puma. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:13am On May 25, 2015 |
Boko Haram overpowers military in Maiduguri. http://www.newstoner.com/boko-haram-overpowers-soldiers-in-maiduguri-raid/ 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:17am On May 25, 2015 |
Henry120: So, what about your favourate T-129? Was the engine developed in Turkey? What about Z10. We have only few countries in the world that produces flying engines as well as motor engines. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:56am On May 25, 2015 |
FighterPilot: Hey fool, we aren't only talking about engine. The Rooivalk's engine, technology, components and sub components are all french. There is nothing South-African about that Helicopter. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by xwolverine: 9:29am On May 25, 2015 |
FighterPilot:I bet you didn't read the report. You saw the sensational headline and rushed to post it here without reading. According to AFP "Scores of Islamist militants in trucks and on motorcycles stormed the town of Gubio, 95 kilometres (60 miles) by road north of the state capital, Maiduguri, on Sat" How does 90km north of Maiduguri, equate to Maiduguri? It's a shame your wish for a defeated Nigeria can't come to pass, as the terrorists were dislodged immediately. Now you can run along, no news here. 2 Likes |
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