barcanista:
My brother, the problem with the subsidy regime is troubling. However, removing it comes with challenges because the marketers will use the opportunity to rip us. We have no refinery, we have problem of mass transit, we have electricity p®oblem and all these wÍll affect the economy and businesses if the subsidy is removed overnight without fixing some of these things. Yes, the subsidy has to go but we should put mechanism in place for smooth removal. Sadly, our system is so flawed and corruption at every level is so pronounced. I supported the protest then but I wanted a deal that will see gradual removal while things are put in place. But what are we getting?

I blame the Government for not doing what they ought to. I also blame the Marketers for being fraudulent and insensitive. The public too should be blamed for not knowing what they want. Most importantly, I blame the clueless labour

barcanista:
My brother, the problem with the subsidy regime is troubling. However, removing it comes with challenges because the marketers will use the opportunity to rip us. We have no refinery, we have problem of mass transit, we have electricity p®oblem and all these wÍll affect the economy and businesses if the subsidy is removed overnight without fixing some of these things. Yes, the subsidy has to go but we should put mechanism in place for smooth removal. Sadly, our system is so flawed and corruption at every level is so pronounced. I supported the protest then but I wanted a deal that will see gradual removal while things are put in place. But what are we getting?

I blame the Government for not doing what they ought to. I also blame the Marketers for being fraudulent and insensitive. The public too should be blamed for not knowing what they want. Most importantly, I blame the clueless labour

Truckpusher:
Where are those Lagosians that were protesting like they are the only people being affected by the fuel subsidy in 2012?


This is what you get when a particular section of any country is used to freeloading.

The marketers simply bamboozled them and they protested against their own future .

Jonathan shouldn't pay any dime, let the olodo General they so much loved pay up and see what our Jona was passing through in the hands of these criminal marketers ,and again has anyone bothered to ask why is it that most of these marketers are from a particular section of the country ?
Nigeria needs seriuos restructuring abeg before we go for each other's jugular.

Truckpusher:
Where are those Lagosians that were protesting like they are the only people being affected by the fuel subsidy in 2012?


This is what you get when a particular section of any country is used to freeloading.

The marketers simply bamboozled them and they protested against their own future .

Jonathan shouldn't pay any dime, let the olodo General they so much loved pay up and see what our Jona was passing through in the hands of these criminal marketers ,and again has anyone bothered to ask why is it that most of these marketers are from a particular section of the country ?
Nigeria needs serious restructuring abeg before we go for each other's jugular.

patrickmuf:
Before you start your image laundering, I'd like you to quote what GEJ said after the removal of partial subsidy...
Did he promise refineries?
Did he promise palliative measures would be taken to ease the pain associated with the partial removal of subsidy?
You're in a hurry to rope the ACN/APC in...Please do a more constructive write up or zip up...

Whynotthetruth:
barcanista, dearpreye, Truckpusher, Passingshot, 4play, Francizy, Mogidi, Anonimi, Altwireless, Severussnape
Attn:
Obinoscopy Lalasticlala and Ishilove

Whynotthetruth:



When the situation at NITEL became irredeemable and it was opened up, were we ripped off?

There's always a regulatory agency to monitor arbitrary price increase...

Government can always support or indirectly control the prices by doing some retail through their own mega stations too...

Mass transit was started by Jonathan then...what happened to those buses and their operators?...corruption is deep in Nigeria DNA including the poor people...

Truckpusher:
Where are those Lagosians that were protesting like they are the only people being affected by the fuel subsidy removal in 2012?


This is what you get when a particular section of any country is used to freeloading.

The marketers simply bamboozled them and they protested against their own future .

Jonathan shouldn't pay any dime, let the olodo General they so much loved pay up and see what our Jona was passing through in the hands of these criminal marketers ,and again has anyone bothered to ask why is it that most of these marketers are from a particular section of the country ?
Nigeria needs seriuos restructuring abeg before we go for each other's jugular.

Whynotthetruth:



When the situation at NITEL became irredeemable and it was opened up, were we ripped off?

There's always a regulatory agency to monitor arbitrary price increase...

Government can always support or indirectly control the prices by doing some retail through their own mega stations too...

Mass transit was started by Jonathan then...what happened to those buses and their operators?...corruption is deep in Nigeria DNA including the poor people...

barcanista:
So in agreement with the bold

Truckpusher:
There are certain sectors of this country who would rather die than see the restructuring.

And we can't afford to wait for a people that wants to remain stagnant.

We need a referendum else our people would be forced to do whatever it takes to fly.

barcanista:
My brother, the problem with the subsidy regime is troubling. However, removing it comes with challenges because the marketers will use the opportunity to rip us. We have no refinery, we have problem of mass transit, we have electricity p®oblem and all these wÍll affect the economy and businesses if the subsidy is removed overnight without fixing some of these things. Yes, the subsidy has to go but we should put mechanism in place for smooth removal. Sadly, our system is so flawed and corruption at every level is so pronounced. I supported the protest then but I wanted a deal that will see gradual removal while things are put in place. But what are we getting?

I blame the Government for not doing what they ought to. I also blame the Marketers for being fraudulent and insensitive. The public too should be blamed for not knowing what they want. Most importantly, I blame the clueless labour

barcanista:
We should start educating our people

francizy:
Well some blames still have to be channeled to GET because he should have put in place proper measures to monitor the SURE-p thing. 99.9% of Nigerians are corrupt, so you don't allow them handle projects, organizations, etc, without monitoring them.

Truckpusher:
Some of our people has bought the fraudulent one Nigeria slogan.

Even if Hausa bomb Port Harcourt , they will say it's our fault.
My happiness is that their leader is now labelled a traitor .

angelsing:
Since u defected to PDP this is the best comment have seen u post...You have said it, all I had intention of talking is exactly what u have just said...Removing the subsidy was never the problem but measures would have been put in place to usher in the effect of subsidy removal...it is also pertinent to notice that #occupyNigeria brought about the exposure of the Scam in subsidy

barcanista:
My brother, the problem with the subsidy regime is troubling. However, removing it comes with challenges because the marketers will use the opportunity to rip us. We have no refinery, we have problem of mass transit, we have electricity p®oblem and all these wÍll affect the economy and businesses if the subsidy is removed overnight without fixing some of these things. Yes, the subsidy has to go but we should put mechanism in place for smooth removal. Sadly, our system is so flawed and corruption at every level is so pronounced. I supported the protest then but I wanted a deal that will see gradual removal while things are put in place. But what are we getting?

I blame the Government for not doing what they ought to. I also blame the Marketers for being fraudulent and insensitive. The public too should be blamed for not knowing what they want. Most importantly, I blame the clueless labour

socialmediaman:
I'm really tired of all these name saving for Jonathan. He failed, nothing short of failure can truly paint a picture of his performance.

This is the real story:

In 2012 January 1st, Jonathan announced an end to the petrol subsidy. NLC reacted and mobilized the masses who were taken by surprise. (This was not a party issue).

The NLC replied the government, "Fight The corruption in the sector first, you will have nothing to subsidize"... Jonathan never did this.

What are the corruption in the oil sector imports? There are thousands, but I'll name just a few outstanding ones:

1. Importers bring in petrol into the country and inflate the figures. Let's say an importer brought in 1 vessel, he brings a claim for 20 vessels, he is paid subsidy for the 20 vessels, no inspection to see if these vessels entered the shores of Nigeria, Nothing. They are just paid. This is crazy! No serious government will tolerate this, but Jonathan choose to ignore it

2. Importers bring in vessels into the country. After getting paid for subsidy, they divert these products to neighboring countries where the petrol sells higher, and they make double profits while we experience scarcity. It is noteworthy that these people do not fly these products into neighboring countries, they drive them, passing immigration and customs at our borders. Isn't this crazy? This is how people will be using our borders to import arms and illegal dangerous weapons, do we have a government, really? This was no problem for Jonathan.

3. NNPC imports products and intentionally delay these products from being offloaded for months so as to incur demurrage and share the proceeds with the vessel owners, they were indicted severally for these

4. Even with all these fraud and impunity by these oil marketers, many of them still get import waivers that cost Nigeria $20 billion dollars in revenue as pointed out by NOI in 2014.

Lots other crimes, this is just a teaser...

So what was Our apprehension?
NLC and Nigerians generally believed that unless you fight corruption in the sector, if you remove subsidy, these cabals will gang up and hoard these products so they become expensive again, what will the president do? If he could not fight corruption in the first place, how could he control impunity by the same greedy marketers?

Conclusion
This rubbish of leniency and kid gloves on sensitive matters such as embezzlement, fraud, impunity and corruption will end with President Jonathan's government. Nigerians deserve better. These cabals know we have a toothless president but they are yet to see the reward for their sabotage

Ps: I think Ifeanyi Uba is only being sensible and smart, they probably have got wind of the hurricane that will sweep them away in the coming weeks and it only makes sense to sacrifice and stay in business. These country hijackers haven't seen anything yet

barcanista:
Bros, part of our problem is that the enlightened amongst us are not "fighters" and the fighters amongst us are not enlightened. It leaves the ignorant majority to accept their present state while we all suffer. There is need for a serious enlightenment drive! Most of us don't even understand!

socialmediaman:
I'm really tired of all these name saving for Jonathan. He failed, nothing short of failure can truly paint a picture of his performance.

This is the real story:

In 2012 January 1st, Jonathan announced an end to the petrol subsidy. NLC reacted and mobilized the masses who were taken by surprise. (This was not a party issue).

The NLC replied the government, "Fight The corruption in the sector first, you will have nothing to subsidize"... Jonathan never did this.

What are the corruption in the oil sector imports? There are thousands, but I'll name just a few outstanding ones:

1. Importers bring in petrol into the country and inflate the figures. Let's say an importer brought in 1 vessel, he brings a claim for 20 vessels, he is paid subsidy for the 20 vessels, no inspection to see if these vessels entered the shores of Nigeria, Nothing. They are just paid. This is crazy! No serious government will tolerate this, but Jonathan choose to ignore it

2. Importers bring in vessels into the country. After getting paid for subsidy, they divert these products to neighboring countries where the petrol sells higher, and they make double profits while we experience scarcity. It is noteworthy that these people do not fly these products into neighboring countries, they drive them, passing immigration and customs at our borders. Isn't this crazy? This is how people will be using our borders to import arms and illegal dangerous weapons, do we have a government, really? This was no problem for Jonathan.

3. NNPC imports products and intentionally delay these products from being offloaded for months so as to incur demurrage and share the proceeds with the vessel owners, they were indicted severally for these

4. Even with all these fraud and impunity by these oil marketers, many of them still get import waivers that cost Nigeria $20 billion dollars in revenue as pointed out by NOI in 2014.

Lots other crimes, this is just a teaser...

So what was Our apprehension?
NLC and Nigerians generally believed that unless you fight corruption in the sector, if you remove subsidy, these cabals will gang up and hoard these products so they become expensive again, what will the president do? If he could not fight corruption in the first place, how could he control impunity by the same greedy marketers?

Conclusion
This rubbish of leniency and kid gloves on sensitive matters such as embezzlement, fraud, impunity and corruption will end with President Jonathan's government. Nigerians deserve better. These cabals know we have a toothless president but they are yet to see the reward for their sabotage

Ps: I think Ifeanyi Uba is only being sensible and smart, they probably have got wind of the hurricane that will sweep them away in the coming weeks and it only makes sense to sacrifice and stay in business. These country hijackers haven't seen anything yet

Truckpusher:
A hungry man will never listen to you until you show him one reason why he should listen to you .

Our people are illiterate,uneducated and poor , all thanks to the federal system of Nigeria that has ushered in the inequality immediately after independence.This same inequality is still affecting us till this very moment .But even when democracy came where we had a way to have leaders from our kind who would have known that for any minority group to have any political relevance ,their people must be soundly educated . Odili ,Ibori, Alams didn't build schools and encourage education instead they stole the money.....smh

We need to look into our leadership inwardly else we will dance in a circle for a long time.

PassingShot:


To buttress your points, the partial subsidy removal that eventually took place, were the promised palliatives provided?

The SURE-P program, as has been revealed just last week that the employee figure was inflated from 12k to 35k, is another evidence of the scam.

The buses that were promised, where are they today? The refineries, where are they?

Bottom line:
1. I believe there was no true subsidy in the first instance. What we had was an imaginary subsidy.

2. If there truly was subsidy, GEJ could have handled the removal in a more responsible manner than just announcing through the radio, on January 1st 2012, that subsidy was removed. No where in the whole world will such action go unchallenged. He needed to have discussed it with major stakeholders the need to remove subsidy. Ibb, Abach and even OBJ removed some subsidy and we witnessed how they handled it.

3. Nigerians, by rejecting the subsidy, were able to reduce/limit their loss had we allowed full subsidy removal.

4. Now that majority of Nigerians believe we have a more trust-worthy president in Buhari, they will accept a subsidy removal (if there was any) provided they know what they'd get in returns in predetermined dates.