mrnilobrawn:

I got master (M.Engr) admission wit UNB, OTTAWA, USASK with my HND.

What schools look out for wen considering u for admission is not the name of ur degree(Bsc, btech, nce, hnd etc) rather the course on your transcript if it align with theirs.
Let your transcript speak for u...

I hope you jumped on the offer of admission because I really think those schools did not know what HND was, since we don't have that here. I've never heard of this happening before. I just think they offered it to you thinking it is equivalent, they love international students because you pay double of what we pay, so those smaller school will be quick to offer your a masters entrance so as to boost up their graduate dept (this matters a lot to the prestige of this school, the more graduate students you have the better)

The school's don't set the minimum when it comes to Engineering, The CEAB (canadian engineering accreditation board) sets it. If the school messes up they risk having their accreditation withdrawn, if that happens then your degree is pretty much worthless. You'll never be able to get your P.ENG license and nobody will hire you. (When you get finish your bachelor's you get your iron ring, if you dont have an iron ring, you are not an engineer). I've not heard of one case where even people with advance diploma gets an entrance into M.Eng. Its not just your transcript, you need a certain number of hours to qualify to for a B.Eng (or B.Sc in Eng), doesn't matter what courses you took. If you don't have those hours you can not qualify for your bachelors. That's why most schools don't offer engineering coarses in the summer, because they simple can't give the students the minimum amount of hours. A 2 or 3 yr program doesn't let you get those hours.

Every school I have came across needs a minimum of a bachelor's to get into a masters engineering program, my school for instance needs to have at least a B average in your undergrad.

I'm not saying you are lying. I'm just telling you what I know since I am in the engineering field. Maybe try your luck and apply to those school's nilobrown applied to, you might have the same luck and get in. If you get in, take your masters, go back to naija and enjoy!.

@Team12 and Tnuola cool...

neoneyo:
Hello everyone, from the cic website i have noticed they are new rules regarding change of schools or courses as at june 2014

please can any one give insight as to changing schools or course of study after ariving canada from the one that was the basis of TRV/STUDY PERMIT.
i am aware the first step is getting admission to the school you want to change to and notifying the cic....
MY QUESTION is, in a case when u want to transfer from a PGD prog to an Undergraduate Diploma, are there any peculiarities or problems associated with that and does it fall under the category of change of level as stated below(copied from the cic website), which requires applying for a new study permit.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-changes.asp

[/font][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]
[color=#990000]If you applied for a study permit to attend a post-secondary institution after June 1, 2014, you must notify Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) via your MyCIC account every time you change institutions. [color=#006600]You are not required to apply for a new study permit when changing institutions that are at the same level of study (e.g., from a college to a university).

For example, you must notify CIC if you submit a letter of acceptance from the University of Ottawa when you apply for your study permit but then transfer to Carleton University once you arrive in Canada.

You are not required to notify CIC when you change institution if:

you applied for a study permit prior to June 1, 2014;
you were issued a study permit to attend an institution at the primary or secondary level; or
you obtained a study permit as the family member of a study or work permit holder (i.e., you were not required to submit a letter of acceptance when applying for a study permit).[/color]
I COPIED THIS FROM THE CIC SITE.
thanks

This shouldn't be a big deal; I think they just want to be aware of any changes made for easy identification. I changed from Centennial college to Brock university in May 2014 and my current Study permit has Centennial on it, whenever I have to present my study permit they keep asking why I changed school. So if the policy was in place before I changed school, I won't have to be explaining myself every time. If you want to change school, inform the school first so that they could at least direct you on what to do because a school like Brock don't interfere with CIC related matters but they would direct you. All the best.

deedee0:
Seems online route application is processed in Lagos while paper route in Accra.
Na for ds thread I read am..some pages bck.
@Ugochux style.. I stand to be corrected

Not correct!! I applied tru online route and was processed in Accra.

mrnilobrawn:

Most schools dos'nt mean ALL schools. I neva used agent neither did i used any form of Bank Statement....yet am going with my girl.

Where did u get the word ''organised'' from?
I wish u best bro...cheers

i was meant to post this rep,ly since yesterday, but no light no fuel, and i cant even remember what i wanted to post again self

Just a quick one bro; how can you qualify to become a P.Eng in Canada with your Naija B.Eng knowing fully well that you can't get admitted into Canada's Masters program cos of grade wahala.Any tips

Solo8:


I hope you jumped on the offer of admission because I really think those schools did not know what HND was, since we don't have that here. I've never heard of this happening before. I just think they offered it to you thinking it is equivalent, they love international students because you pay double of what we pay, so those smaller school will be quick to offer your a masters entrance so as to boost up their graduate dept (this matters a lot to the prestige of this school, the more graduate students you have the better)

The school's don't set the minimum when it comes to Engineering, The CEAB (canadian engineering accreditation board) sets it. If the school messes up they risk having their accreditation withdrawn, if that happens then your degree is pretty much worthless. You'll never be able to get your P.ENG license and nobody will hire you. (When you get finish your bachelor's you get your iron ring, if you dont have an iron ring, you are not an engineer). I've not heard of one case where even people with advance diploma gets an entrance into M.Eng. Its not just your transcript, you need a certain number of hours to qualify to for a B.Eng (or B.Sc in Eng), doesn't matter what courses you took. If you don't have those hours you can not qualify for your bachelors. That's why most schools don't offer engineering coarses in the summer, because they simple can't give the students the minimum amount of hours. A 2 or 3 yr program doesn't let you get those hours.

Every school I have came across needs a minimum of a bachelor's to get into a masters engineering program, my school for instance needs to have at least a B average in your undergrad.

I'm not saying you are lying. I'm just telling you what I know since I am in the engineering field. Maybe try your luck and apply to those school's nilobrown applied to, you might have the same luck and get in. If you get in, take your masters, go back to naija and enjoy!.

kfrosh:
Just a quick one bro; how can you qualify to become a P.Eng in Canada with your Naija B.Eng knowing fully well that you can't get admitted into Canada's Masters program cos of grade wahala.Any tips

P.Eng is a long process, you have to do a bunch of different things after graduation. 4 yrs of working as an engineer under another engineer that already has a P.Eng designation, you also have to take an exam, there are a bunch of other things that I don't have off the top of my head.

P.Eng means professional Engineer, when you get that, you start making real money..$100k plus.

Huzzie:

This shouldn't be a big deal; I think they just want to be aware of any changes made for easy identification. I changed from Centennial college to Brock university in May 2014 and my current Study permit has Centennial on it, whenever I have to present my study permit they keep asking why I changed school. So if the policy was in place before I changed school, I won't have to be explaining myself every time. If you want to change school, inform the school first so that they could at least direct you on what to do because a school like Brock don't interfere with CIC related matters but they would direct you. All the best.

Hey Man, Howdy? Could you please follow back? Need to talk with you privately.

Crich:


I am not sure.Might be possible. I know with my qualification(MBA n work exp), sometime ago, i wanted HR but i was told i didnt qualify for that except i first do a one year diploma in HR.
So, i'm just not sure.
I suggest u send a mail to whichever school u are interested in, and ask what your chances are.

@ DONMIKOA, you can get into an MBA without pre-MBA but that depends on the school and most importantly your grade. I did not have to do PRE-MBA.

Bobola86:

Not correct!! I applied tru online route and was processed in Accra.

That's why I kept disclaimer o... Correction taken. Think @tnuola is correct, it's according to their discretion.
How did you know where it's been processed? The text message from VFS?

Solo8:


I hope you jumped on the offer of admission because I really think those schools did not know what HND was, since we don't have that here. I've never heard of this happening before. I just think they offered it to you thinking it is equivalent, they love international students because you pay double of what we pay, so those smaller school will be quick to offer your a masters entrance so as to boost up their graduate dept (this matters a lot to the prestige of this school, the more graduate students you have the better)

The school's don't set the minimum when it comes to Engineering, The CEAB (canadian engineering accreditation board) sets it. If the school messes up they risk having their accreditation withdrawn, if that happens then your degree is pretty much worthless. You'll never be able to get your P.ENG license and nobody will hire you. (When you get finish your bachelor's you get your iron ring, if you dont have an iron ring, you are not an engineer). I've not heard of one case where even people with advance diploma gets an entrance into M.Eng. Its not just your transcript, you need a certain number of hours to qualify to for a B.Eng (or B.Sc in Eng), doesn't matter what courses you took. If you don't have those hours you can not qualify for your bachelors. That's why most schools don't offer engineering coarses in the summer, because they simple can't give the students the minimum amount of hours. A 2 or 3 yr program doesn't let you get those hours.

Every school I have came across needs a minimum of a bachelor's to get into a masters engineering program, my school for instance needs to have at least a B average in your undergrad.

I'm not saying you are lying. I'm just telling you what I know since I am in the engineering field. Maybe try your luck and apply to those school's nilobrown applied to, you might have the same luck and get in. If you get in, take your masters, go back to naija and enjoy!.

U still dont get the creteria for admissions. Go back to ur school website and check the requirments for admission into ur program. Relevant Bachelor degree or its equivalent.

For qualify for admission into master, u must have atleast 12O credit units from ur undergraduate. U will be surprise to hear my total credit units stated on my evaluation cert from WES.
So those Canadians wit just diploma or advance diploma with out P.Eng status dont work in Engineering sectors huh? Naija mentallity.
Talking about small school and big school...
Is University of Ottawa a small school?
Is University of New Brunswick a small school?
Is University of Saskatchewan a small school?
I hav a frnd who finished M.Eng in University of Alberta with HND from Yabatech, oh thats a small school too right? He is not a P.Eng and he works with an oil company in Alberta region. Dont know his job position tho. Oh bad for u, he did'nt return to naija.

Ppl wit ur mindset should'nt even b in Canada in d first place.

Oh u can aswell list the name of big school u attend...

kfrosh:
What am 100% sure of is that either B.Eng or HND , or B.Sc it holds same value if you are applying to schools in USA; dunno of Canada doh. And your transcripts go tru WES evaluation before it can be used officially .

US schools uses WES evaluation for admission while some schools in canada do too. Lik MUN, Laurentian Uni..etc. other Canadian school has there own inhouse evaluators. Thats y u are required to send an official transcrpt from ur schools in naija.
Have'nt u heared of those with BSc. Or B.Eng been rejected for admission? Your transcript is what matters. Ofcourse u should know the contents of a transcript!!

bighead1:


i was meant to post this rep,ly since yesterday, but no light no fuel, and i cant even remember what i wanted to post again self

Lol...it will come back soon.

When people let themselves get offended to the point at which they go personal is really senseless to me...


Put down your point aand move on...

Mrnilobrown sir, your rants were unnecessary, uncalled for and unethical.

kfrosh:
Just a quick one bro; how can you qualify to become a P.Eng in Canada with your Naija B.Eng knowing fully well that you can't get admitted into Canada's Masters program cos of grade wahala.Any tips

Solo8:

P.Eng is a long process, you have to do a bunch of different things after graduation. 4 yrs of working as an engineer under another engineer that already has a P.Eng designation, you also have to take an exam, there are a bunch of other things that I don't have off the top of my head.
P.Eng means professional Engineer, when you get that, you start making real money..$100k plus.

Kfrosh, if u ar looking for jobs at d Management levels (prject managers, safety managers, projects heads, procurments managers, technical director/managers....etc) then P.Eng is for u. Otherwise, entry graduate jobs will give u a confortable life.
In Nigeria, how many Engineering graduates working with NNPC,Agip, shell, shevron,.dangote, flour mills..etc) are registered with COREN? Are they not living well with good Salary?

I wil end d matter here. Goodluck with ur P.ENG inview oga SOLO8

hayqinsbFX:
When people let themselves get offended to the point at which they go personal is really senseless to me...


Put down your point aand move on...

Mrnilobrown sir, your rants were unnecessary, uncalled for and unethical.

Maybe u should go back and read his comment, especially his first line.

U droping this comment makes u another rants on the forum. U dig?

@MrNilobrawn You've gotten emotional.

So on point sire

mrnilobrawn:

US schools uses WES evaluation for admission while some schools in canada do too. Lik MUN, Laurentian Uni..etc. other Canadian school has there own inhouse evaluators. Thats y u are required to send an official transcrpt from ur schools in naija.
Have'nt u heared of those with BSc. Or B.Eng been rejected for admission? Your transcript is what matters. Ofcourse u should know the contents of a transcript!!

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@mrnilobrown@hayqinsbFx@solo8 u guys should keep calm; everybody just trying to share their views. @solo8 doesn't know much about the value of HND that's why he passed such statement. Have seen a lot of dudes that got admitted into top schools in the US even with full funding with just their OND+HND results. Like @mrnilbrown said it all depends on the contents of your transcript and WES evaluation.

Walahi na CIC mail concern me pass...

*grabs bitters*

darefestus:
@MrNilobrawn
You've gotten emotional.

We ar all here to learn and guide ppl for ways forwards, an OP was concern about his HND and if there ar ways forwards, i gav used myself as reference that yes he could still be admitted. In that line of convers this SOLO8 of a guy made a very insultiv comment. His first sentence ''I hope you jumped on the offer of admission because I really think those schools did not know what HND was, since we don't have that here.'' sit me up from bed....its only in naija that people jump into something..be it jobs, admission, politics, etc

For clearity, They dont JUMP INTO ADMISSION in Schools in Canada, U hv to b QUALIFIED FOR THEM.

So ppl should get d memo bf telling me am emotional....

mrnilobrawn:
So ppl should get d memo bf telling me am emotional....

And you had to make that sly dig, didn't you?

See, what he said could easily pass for soft-hearted sarcasm..You probably took him it of context while trying desperately to ignore any reason he had for saying that.

...And please don't come for me, I can give it real hard.

hayqinsbFX:
Walahi na CIC mail concern me pass...
*grabs bitters*

Abi na Leave the 'fountain of knowledge' and 'Bags of experience' to their folly. Yours is a month today..hehehe

U track this thin pass me sef....LOL..
Just tracked my app...still processing..

darefestus:


Abi na
Leave the 'fountain of knowledge' and 'Bags of experience' to their folly.
Yours is a month today..hehehe

deedee0:

That's why I kept disclaimer o... Correction taken. Think @tnuola is correct, it's according to their discretion.
How did you know where it's been processed? The text message from VFS?

They will write it on your trv.

hayqinsbFX:
U track this thin pass me sef....LOL..
Just tracked my app...still processing..

Paper route Na.
It'd be U and CruzAj first then Seyi and i.
By recent timelines

Bobola86:

They will write it on your trv.

Insightful..What about the info on the tracking number, Or the VFS mail, aren't those pointers to where its being processed?

Na tosinfemi first o...b4 cruzaj n I...

darefestus:

Paper route Na.
It'd be U and CruzAj first then Seyi and i.
By recent timelines

Guy, Calm down. @Solo8 is a Canadian oo...

mrnilobrawn:

U still dont get the creteria for admissions. Go back to ur school website and check the requirments for admission into ur program. Relevant Bachelor degree or its equivalent.

For qualify for admission into master, u must have atleast 12O credit units from ur undergraduate. U will be surprise to hear my total credit units stated on my evaluation cert from WES.
So those Canadians wit just diploma or advance diploma with out P.Eng status dont work in Engineering sectors huh? Naija mentallity.
Talking about small school and big school...
Is University of Ottawa a small school?
Is University of New Brunswick a small school?
Is University of Saskatchewan a small school?
I hav a frnd who finished M.Eng in University of Alberta with HND from Yabatech, oh thats a small school too right? He is not a P.Eng and he works with an oil company in Alberta region. Dont know his job position tho. Oh bad for u, he did'nt return to naija.

Ppl wit ur mindset should'nt even b in Canada in d first place.

Oh u can aswell list the name of big school u attend...

Team12:
Guy, Calm down. @Solo8 is a Canadian oo...

Well, whatever! Let's call a spade a spade, his first paragraph sounds more like an insult on Mrnilobrowns academic qualification. You can't insinuate he's lucky for been accepted when he worked hard for his own result too regardless wether its HND or BSC. Solo8 might have some realistic and factual points, but he doesn't need to sound that rude. His last sentence about bn lucky like MrNiloBrown and going back to nigeria too is uncalled for. Also MrNiloBrown, please take it easy. It's all well and good. You both made your points. Anyone who's interested in that particular topic can make further research. Nice week everyone!

darefestus:


And you had to make that sly dig, didn't you?

See, what he said could easily pass for soft-hearted sarcasm..You probably took him it of context while trying desperately to ignore any reason he had for saying that.

...And please don't come for me, I can give it real hard.

And u think i hv all that time?
Focus ur energy on ur TRV, i hv gone pass that stage.
Smiles