Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Rawani: 7:20am On May 27, 2015 |
micktoxin:
I don't know about you, but I can't ignore a comment that wished more harm were done to the other tribe. I need to understand the context behind that comment. Anyways, I am happy to let this topic continue as long as tribalism is kept to a minimum otherwise I have no choice but to request a closure of this thread. Did you not read what I wrote? No one asked you to ignore a comment; open a thread if you need understanding as you stated. The mods are up to task and it's their prerogative to decide what threads to close, not yours. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by truefact: 7:21am On May 27, 2015 |
juicee1: reduce the rate at which you show hate for progress.
I guess you are just trying to push the yorubas out cos you can't stand their pace. Does it mean you can't stand on your own? Are you not a progressive again? Are you the best and first? Or you truly a coward who only use propaganding to massage his ego? You are nothing... Nobody care to stand your pace...great people always want to prove a point by doing great things...we want out...Your pace is cowardice |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by DaGC(m): 7:27am On May 27, 2015 |
Great insightful project. Like the Kaduna - Abuja rail Sad at the level of tribal bigotry shown here. Re.tards everywhere. Na to wish una Happy children's day because I doubt adults act like this. #PeacefulNigeria #UnitedNigeria 12 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by micktoxin(m): 7:31am On May 27, 2015 |
Rawani:
Did you not read what I wrote? No one asked you to ignore a comment; open a thread if you need understanding as you stated. The mods are up to task and it's their prerogative to decide what threads to close, not yours. Of course I did and my decision still holds. Use your brain will you, I said "I will 'request a closure" if further tribalism are being spewed. So far, you haven't made a contributionto the topic posted, so how about you stick to the development of south West? Not too hard is it? |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Rawani: 7:37am On May 27, 2015 |
micktoxin:
Of course I did and my decision still holds. Use your brain will you, I said "I will 'request a closure" if further tribalism are being spewed. So far, you haven't made a contributionto the topic posted, so how about you stick to the development of south West? Not too hard is it? Glad you agree to stick to the topic. Cheers. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by micktoxin(m): 7:40am On May 27, 2015 |
Rawani:
Glad you agree to stick to the topic. Cheers. Let me help you out. What do you make of this rail project? Not too hard to comprehend I would've thought. |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by myklangelo(m): 7:49am On May 27, 2015 |
This is truly the definition of a pipeline dream, it has been in the offing for over 8 years. when will they start breaking ground? The 1st Igbo language blog is out. it is fun. Let us visit, comment, share and criticize it. www.odeniigbo..com |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by mimicious(f): 7:50am On May 27, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind: God please support the south west governors with knowledge and your fear.
Give them the will to do what is right for Yoruba people.
Bless Yoruba people
Amen Amen 5 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by tempest01(m): 7:51am On May 27, 2015 |
Hope it it's not cancelled - AGAIN 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Rawani: 7:51am On May 27, 2015 |
micktoxin:
Let me help you out. What do you make of this rail project? Not too hard to comprehend I would've thought. Now that's more like it. The rail project apart from easing transportation, will enhance the economies of both states through increased trade and the ability of workers to commute to either state for work. Furthermore mono rail being the most efficient form of transport in terms of energy consumption, space occupancy and numbers transported is eco-friendly and therefore a welcome development. I trust that it's viability has been established. 7 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by OkikiOluwa1(m): 7:55am On May 27, 2015 |
truefact: .why are yorubas afraid of being their own? Yorubas claim to be progressive and sophisticated, they claim to love each other, yet they coward enough not want to be on their own and have the most wonderful country in Africa.. Yorubas if you are all the goodies you claim to be, I bet you will be the one fighting for secession
Yoruba learn to stand on your own after all you could have been the first Africans to have independence. ..you claim to be first in every thing. ...at least you can be the first to secede and have a progressive country Thank you. We are not cowards neither are we afraid to stand alone. We believe Nigeria can be greater when we all do tribal collabo but some people won't agree due to their selfish reason or personal grievance from the Biafra war. Meanwhile, the origin of what triggered the war started when some Igbo soldiers killed the Western & Northern leaders mercilessly because they were accused of corruption. They could v been tried in court after overthrowing their govt. The January boys (Maj Kaduna Nzeogwu & co) were so wrong to v started what they couldn't finish! Let no Igboman blame any tribe for the civil war but move on to develop their region. That is what has kept the Yorubas progressive. If we still harbour hatred against the Huasa/Fulanis for how they killed Afonja & almost took over Ilorin just because of religion or how Babangida betrayed MKO Abiola before Abacha now jailed him, or how Igbo soldiers of Maj Kaduna Nzeogwu & his boys killed Sir S.L Akintola & Brig Samuel Ademulegun. Or the madness of the Fulani herdsmen in some parts of Yorubaland. Then we d be busy fighting every tribe daily. Some Igbos v called Yorubas coward because of the way they easily align with Hausa/Fulanis. It's not as if we can't confront them when they misbehave. We are brave & sensitive people that knows when to fight. We don't fight an already lost battle! The Hausa/Fulanis v also proven severally that they don't harbour sentiments & hatred. They may behave like Jihadists a times, but they live to forget yesterday's pain because of tomorrow's progress. So...anytime the Yorubas want to plan or activate a progressive move, the Hausas are ready to move while the Igbos ll remember somebody that jailed their grandfather & turn to the opposition of the progressive plan. They ll forget that yesterdays view may be different from today's view. In Nigeria's struggle Yorubas believe it ll be better one day. But if the country choose not to get it right till eternity, when the time is right we will v our own country. For now, we are okay with Nigeria & we are enduring it! 29 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by OkutaNla: 7:55am On May 27, 2015 |
micktoxin:
To be honest, I didn't know the history of Nigeria and was beginning to dislike Awolowo. Thanks for clearing this up. I am sure Igbos too will have their own view on the war, which I will be glad to know.
Blockade To talk about a blockade on Biafra is to concede that the control of Biafra’s borders was already in Awolowo’s hands. The control or defence of borders is the main aim of any war since the beginning of war making all over the world. But the 34-year-old Ojukwu led Biafra to secede based on 2,000 professional soldiers and extremely few artillery; they did not have enough to defend their borders. “If the Nigerian side had known the state of Biafran troops including their morale, they would have pursued them even on canoes across the River Niger. Had the Nigerians taken up such pursuit, they might have taken Onitsha, Awka and Enugu that same day.” That is Achike Udenwa, who was a Biafran soldier and later became the governor of Imo State, writing about the federal defeat of Biafra in the Midwest during the early weeks of the war in his own recollection, Nigerian/Biafra War. Even, the so-called January boys, Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna, both voiced their concern that the Biafran soldiers were vastly underprepared for any kind of war. Achebe writes: “Biafran soldiers marched into war one man behind the other because they had only one rifle between them, and the thinking was that if one soldier was killed in combat the other would pick up the only weapon available and continue fighting(pg 153).”
Therefore, even before the first bullet was fired, the secession was not only a failure but was an epic humanitarian catastrophe waiting to happen. Awolowo told Ojukwu one of the reasons the West was not keen to join the secession was because the region already occupied by northern troops did not have enough loyal men in the Nigerian Army to defend it. Weaned on the hermeneutics of Yoruba history, Awolowo was not persuaded by the seductive but flawed logic that the Nigerian forces would lose because they would be incapable of prosecuting war on two fronts if the West joined the East in seceding. At one point during the Kiriji war in the 19th century, Bashorun Ogunmola (Omoarogundeyo), the Kingdom of Ibadan’s generalissimo, was simultaneously warring with five neighbouring and far-flung kingdoms. Ibadan never lost. To defeat Ibadan you did not have to defeat even its retreating soldiers only, you had to defeat those dull-looking hills surrounding it. In fact, one of the reasons Ibadan was so belligerent in its history was that those mighty hills allowed it to spend little resources defending and more on attacking.
But Biafra was not surrounded by hills, literally or figuratively. Its borders were so porous that they fell easily into the opponent’s hand. Days after declaration of secession, the sea boundary of Biafra was already being manned by Nigeria’s battleships and boats. By the sixth week all the boundaries of Biafra were already under the control of Nigerian government. What remained was zooming in. In fact, had only Awolowo’s Western Region seceded, the strategy to recapture it would not be a variance with the one used against Biafra because the West is geographically an enantiomer of the East. It was the same blockade Nzeogwu used to capture and kill their targets, Sardauna and his senior wife; Ademulegun and his wife, Latifa, who was eight months pregnant, in the presence of their two children, Solape and Kole. As Solape recollected years later, Nzeogwu, who shot her mother, was a family friend that regularly visited to eat pounded yam and egusi soup. The little girl was even calling him uncle while he shot her mother in the chest in their bedroom. It was the same blockade Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi used to capture Remi Fani-Kayode and kill S.L Akintola, the Western premier. It was the same blockade American Navy Seals used to capture and kill Osama bin Laden.
What about Cameroon? Whose side was it on? Of course, Cameroun was firmly on the Nigerian side, yet it had a sizeable Igbo population and Azikiwe’s party was NCNC – National Council for Nigerian and the Cameroons. But Ojukwu had stepped on their toes: he had stolen enough of their goods and supplies that they helped the federal side to take Calabar and cooperated with the Naval blockade of Biafra. As the US State Department’s cable of 29 November 1968 discloses: “GFRC [Government of the Federal Republic of Cameroon] continues to support FMG [Federal Military Government] and recently ordered the dissolution of newly formed Cameroon Relief Organisation (CAMRO) which was being organised to receive Biafran children in west Cameroon.”
Starvation Policy In Achebe’s book one could see several places where Biafrans violated the basis of the Geneva Convention. You could see where villagers who were non-combatants and should have been protected under Geneva Convention were taking machetes to federal soldiers, hence becoming legitimate targets of war themselves. Another striking instance was when Achebe was with his extended family and overnight their compound was turned into military base without their consent (pg 172). Heavens forbid the Nigerian side bombed the base. Yes, the Biafran propaganda machine would go to work that an innocent illustrious family had been eradicated by the “genocidal Nigerian army” and may even use it as an evidence of war crime. But it was the Biafran army that compromised Achebe’s household.
As part of security preparation for the last Olympics, the British Army commandeered a strategic high-rise residential building and placed surface-to-air missiles at the top. The residents protested and went to court. Let us assume a war broke out and the enemy flattened the whole building. He would not have committed a war crime because it was the British Army that made the civilian residents legitimate targets in the first place. Unfortunate though it may sound, schools, hospitals, churches, mosques, relief centres become legitimate targets once military activities begin to go on there in the event of a war. Check for instance the current Hamas tactics against Israel or the bombing of University of Nigeria, Nsukka, when it allowed itself to become headquarters of local Biafran Army, with several professors joining in expedition force to hunt down lost federal soldiers in the bush and their wives back on campus took care of wounded Biafran soldiers and students were going for daily drills and rifle shooting practice under Prof. John C. Ene, Dean of Faculty of Sciences and Commander, University Defence Corps, as revealed in the US secret cable of 16 June 1967. Or the federal raid on the Catholic Cathedral of The Most Holy Trinity, Onitsha, when it was discovered Biafran snipers were operating from there.
When a plane or ship is designated as flying relief supplies to war sufferers, it must not be used to supply arms. Once it does, it is no longer covered by Geneva Convention. There was an Austrian Count, Carl Gustaf von Rosen, whom Achebe praises a lot for his humanitarian assistance in flying relief efforts to Biafra. This is what the Count’s wife had to say: “He told me he was going to Biafra, but he didn’t say he would be bombing MIGs (pg 300).” Achebe writes of von Rosen: “He led multiple relief flights with humanitarian aid into Uli Airport – Biafra’s chief airstrip. Fed up with Nigerian Air Force interference with his peaceful missions, he entered the war heroes hall of fame after leading a five-plane assault on Nigerian aircraft in Port Harcourt, Benin City, Ughelli, Enugu, and some other locations. He took the Nigerian Air Force by total surprise and destroyed several Soviet-supplied aircraft in the process.” That was someone flying humanitarian aid. How would the federal side begin to see other humanitarian flights that were supposed to be carrying food and medical supplies to war-ravished children? Cyprian Ekwensi, writer and head of external publicity for Biafra, admitted in his post-war reminiscences that the relief materials had arms built into them. The American documents too confirmed. The same Hank Warton, who the relief agencies were using to fly food into Biafra, was the one Ojukwu was using to deliver arms.
Of course the Nigerian side knew this and mandated all relief flights to Biafra to submit themselves for inspection at the Port Harcourt Airport. That was the interference Achebe claimed von Rosen was fed up with. In any event, he never claimed such in that 6 July 1969 interview he gave the London Observer. Those planes that passed their inspection delivered their relief. Those that did not were shot down. One particular case was the Swiss Red Cross DC7 Flight heading towards the Uli Airstrip (pg 101). After repeated warnings to change course and land for inspection, it was shot down, disgorging its arms and ammunition. The Biafran propaganda went to work, saying it was part of the genocide policies of Nigerian military to destroy food supplies meant for the kwashiorkor-stricken children.
It is also a fact that some of the relief supplies meant for the children were either ambushed by soldiers or ended up on the black market. Ekwensi again: “People were stealing and selling the food. You could buy it in the market, but you couldn’t get it in the relief centres.” But why would Biafra rely on food from thousands of miles away when their normal antebellum route of supply was merely tens of miles nearby in the Midwest and Northern Nigeria? It was because of the supply of arms and ammunition.
In a memorandum to the White House, Benjamin Read, the Executive Secretary of US State Department, writes: “Because of the absence of other airlines willing to make hazardous flights into Biafra, the ICRC [International Committee Of The Red Cross] has been forced to charter planes from Henry Wharton, an American citizen, who is widely known to be Biafra’s only gun runner. In engaging Wharton, the ICRC is risking its good relations with the FMG, which has long feared that ICRC flights might provide opportunity for gun running.” When Awolowo offered to re-open the usual food corridors, Ojukwu flatly refused. Achebe writes: “Ojukwu like many Biafrans, was concerned about the prospect that Nigerians could poison the food supplies (pg211).” Awolowo let in the food supplies for the children anyway, working with the cover of Caritas and Red Cross. “In America, the Nixon administration increased diplomatic pressure on the Gowon administration to open up avenues for international relief agencies at about the same time, following months of impasse over the logistics of supply route,” writes Achebe on pg 221. There was neither pressure nor its increment.
Independent evidence from the US declines to support this. “The problem of disaster relief in Biafra is not the lack of supplies or means of transport but the lack of access, particularly by a land corridor to Biafra. The authorities [Biafran] on the spot, under the conditions of civil war have given a higher priority to politico-military considerations than to arranging food to be delivered to Biafra. In early November 1968, the Nigerian government told the ICRC that it would agree to daylight relief flights to the major airstrip now held by Biafra if the ICRC could give assurances that the strip would handle only relief flight in daylight hours. We welcome this step by the Federal Government (FMG), which would substantially increase the flow of relief. So far, however, the Biafran authorities have refused to agree. We find it incomprehensible that despite the millions of Biafran lives at stake, the Biafran leadership has not yet given its agreement. The Nigerian government has also offered to cooperate in efforts to open a land corridor to Biafran-held territory. We hope that the Biafran authorities will respond positively to this but heretofore they have alleged they fear the food may be poisoned while transiting FMG territory,” William B. Macomber, Jr, Assistant Secretary for Congressional Relations wrote in a letter dated 20 December 1968 to Congresswoman Florence Dwyer, when she sought clarification on the plight of Biafran refugees she kept seeing in the media.
Later when Awolowo visited the battlefronts and saw the kwashiorkor-ravaged children, he asked about the food supplies, only to discover that soldiers were ambushing the supplies, feeding themselves and the top hierarchy so as to continue the war. Awolowo decided this “dangerous policy” must stop.
If Awolowo was a devil as contemporary Igbo folklore and Achebe’s private demonology have him, he would have arranged for the food supplies to be poisoned, knowing they were going to the soldiers. To protect those children, who were suffering because of the war, he asked for a stop to the food supply that was inevitably going to the soldiers and the Biafran plutocrats unnecessarily elongating a war they would never win.
Once Cameroon too realised that to the Biafran authorities, the suffering children existed for show business and arms trade, they not only refused to take them into their country, they disbanded the newly formed relief agency dedicated to their welfare. What is more, Achebe boasts of Biafran prowess in manufacturing Ogbunigwe and the Biafran imaginative refinement of petroleum that kept Biafran vehicles on the road throughout the war without western technological help, but the most basic of human necessities – the production or the supply of food – they had no clue. And the farmers that were supposed to grow food, as the US documents noted, were conscripted into the Biafran Army during planting season of 1967. The fertilisers that could have been used to better their lands were used to make Ogbunigwe. And so the starvation was Awolowo’s fault.
On The Mythical £20 Policy Throughout the war, as the US State Department’s confidential files disclose, there was no shortage of people and “isms” to blame for the failure of war. At different times and to different audiences, Biafrans blamed racism, neo-imperialism, colonialism for the war. When Ojukwu sent Pius Okigbo to the mainly Latin American countries to solicit for funds and arms for Biafra, he blamed the war on “the desire of Arab Muslims who saw Biafra the only obstacle to the spread of Islam in Africa”. Okigbo noted to his audiences that “Biafra is 60% Catholic and 40% Protestant.” Also, during several of his radio addresses, Ojukwu blamed the war on the British Prime Minister, Harold Wilson, who supplied 15% of Nigeria’s arms. He called the kwashiorkor afflicting Biafran children Harold Wilson Syndrome or Herod Disease. Like the biblical King Herod, Ojukwu said, Wilson wanted to exterminate the children of Biafra.
While the blame-Arabs/Hausa/Islam narrative, blame-Wilson/racism/imperialism narratives, that were so potently alive during the war are now safely dead, the blame-Awolowo-for-starvation narrative is well alive, going from generation to generation. To the Americans, who monitored and documented everything about the war, there was no time Awolowo was blamed for the starvation or deaths on any of these 21,000 pages. However, after the war, it was through the £20 policy that the blame-Awolowo narrative began. To develop it, they seized on this policy and worked their way back to include what Awolowo may have said or done, and mixed it together to form a narrative.
The £20-for-every-Igbo was a myth. What happened then was a currency crisis. On 30 December 1967, Awolowo decided to change the Nigerian currency in circulation in order to render useless the £37 million Ojukwu had for buying foreign weapons. The Biafran leadership quickly took the loot, mopped up the ones they could get in circulation and headed to Europe to exchange them for hard currencies. Eventually, they introduced Biafran notes as the only legal tender. There was around 149 million Biafran pounds in circulation by the end of the war–an average of £10 per every Igbo. After the war, there was a general scramble to exchange these notes for the new Nigerian notes. As Awolowo explained, he didn’t know on what basis these notes were produced. It is like someone bringing a single 50 billion Zimbabwean dollar note to the bank and expecting to be given N50 billion. The exchange rate should be known to determine the worth of the Zimbabwean dollar.
Currently, 39 billion Zimbabwean dollars is worth 1 US dollar. In the case of Biafra, the worth of the currency was unknown; they were produced out of desperation, with lax security features to boot. In his statement of 1 February 1968, Dr. Okigbo, Biafra’s Commissioner of Economic Affairs, said “the lack of international acceptance and lack of a commensurate exchange rate was immaterial since the currency was intended only for circulation in Biafra.” In other words, it was worthless outside Biafra. After the war those that had this money were carting them to Nigerian banks, hoping to get the equivalent in new Nigerian notes. No banker or economist worth that description would approve that. Awolowo, in his bid to rehabilitate the Igbo and restore economic normalcy, approved the payment of 20 Nigerian pounds flat rate for every Biafran notes depositor. It was never £20 for every Igbo. Twenty pounds for every Biafran? That would have been around £300 million, when Nigeria’s annual budget before the war was £342.22 million, for a population of 57 million.
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Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by GentleToks(m): 7:56am On May 27, 2015 |
CSTR2: Sorry for the personal attacks. I don't think a sit-down is possible again. Before the civil war maybe, but not now. Millions of biafrans died due to highly unconventional tactics unbefitting a civil war and awolowo who is still revered as a god in the SW was a huge part of it.
This is what I hate with passion in my life when someone is only concerned about himself/herself or his/her people alone. It's all about civil war nothing else matter. Pls turn the table around and ask these animals called Igbos about what happened in 60s, i m very sure all they would be crying and whinning about was how their forefathers were killed by Yorubas and Hausas in a coup and how yorubas and hausas destroyed regional system of govt just to control Biafra resources. Nigeria has history before civil war and this history is the fvcking problem. Igbos bleeped up Nigeria out of tribalism and greediness and we all hate them for it. The painful aspect of it all is that the same animals throw civil war to our face at every slightest opportunity forgetting or intentionally ignored the crime of their own progenitors who initiated d whole massacre in the first place. Do we talk about how Hausas/Fulanis accommodated Yorubas/Igbos into Northern part of the country with jobs all over the place for them cos they are more educated? Do we talk about how both Yorubas and Igbos dominated Northern civil service? Do we talk about how Igbos destroyed Hausas/Fulanis with their utterances? Do we talk about how Igbo taunt these people on their land by calling them all sort of names simply cos there are not as educated as their counterparts in the south. The result of that war pogrom which Igbos deserved. Igbos in their desperation to control other regions after failing to achieve that through Nnamdi Azikiwe romance with Northern Oligarchy at the expense of the rest of us in the South went and killed all the leaders of Northern, Minorities and Western part of this country but left their own leaders who formed the same government that was tagged corrupt government unhurt. How do you explain that for God sake? Aguiyi Ironsi took over and started what has never been done in the newly born nation by introducing unitary system of government and destroyed our flourishing regional system of govt despite all pleas from the West and North. As if that wasn't enough, against all military norms, Aguiyi took all his brothers(The coupists) and kept them in the East instead of a proper military prosecution. This is our history before your so called civil war. If you want to ignore the atrocities of your forefathers and throw d death of millions of your people in a civil war to our face, you are just wasting your time. Listen and read this for your own good, it ll be brutal this time around. What you heard about in 60s would be a child play to what would befall you animals. Who gave a Bleep about your worthless progenitors who died in a well deserved ass whipping war. You deserved everything you got even worse in that civil war. How I wish i was in involved in the war, I ll hunt every living and dead thing in that region down until nothing remains. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by tochstorm(m): 7:56am On May 27, 2015 |
mofos tryimg to put rail through mud house ogun state.... shakes head... sey na like this we go dey dey? bidding for project started 2008 now this is 2015 and the project will till 2020 to complete jona vision whilst i watch sh!!t unfold in HD-3D. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by OkikiOluwa1(m): 7:59am On May 27, 2015 |
Dollyak:
That's just heartbreaking. The rivalry has brought out ugly hatreds from both sides. One person called me a bastard and told me I am not better than a goat just because my Mum married a Yoruba. Yorubas too are just as bad if you criticise their behaviour toward Igbos. How I wish both side can sit down, be logical and constructive for the best of both parties. I m looking forward to the +ve collabo of a Yoruba/Igbo led govt in Nigeria. Last BulletDon't mind the tribalists of Nairaland. They are small sec school & undergraduate boys without common sense! 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Jobneeded12: 8:03am On May 27, 2015 |
Wow yoruba land will soon be Singapore Omo odua congrats o from Lagos to Kwara and Kogi 10 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by GodMode: 8:03am On May 27, 2015 |
truefact: .why are yorubas afraid of being their own? Yorubas claim to be progressive and sophisticated, they claim to love each other, yet they coward enough not want to be on their own and have the most wonderful country in Africa.. Yorubas if you are all the goodies you claim to be, I bet you will be the one fighting for secession
Yoruba learn to stand on your own after all you could have been the first Africans to have independence. ..you claim to be first in every thing. ...at least you can be the first to secede and have a progressive country Whether they secede or not does not matter. building and maintaining infrastructures, basic amenities and peaceful living is what matters.. 11 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Nobody: 8:04am On May 27, 2015 |
truefact: .why are yorubas afraid of being their own? Yorubas claim to be progressive and sophisticated, they claim to love each other, yet they coward enough not want to be on their own and have the most wonderful country in Africa.. Yorubas if you are all the goodies you claim to be, I bet you will be the one fighting for secession
Yoruba learn to stand on your own after all you could have been the first Africans to have independence. ..you claim to be first in every thing. ...at least you can be the first to secede and have a progressive country This confused flat headed jew is in the wrong place!!!!! 8 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Emirofsambisa1: 8:04am On May 27, 2015 |
Dollyak:
That's just heartbreaking. The rivalry has brought out ugly hatreds from both sides. One person called me a bastard and told me I am not better than a goat just because my Mum married a Yoruba. Yorubas too are just as bad if you criticise their behaviour toward Igbos. How I wish both side can sit down, be logical and constructive for the best of both parties. My dear don't judge Nigeria by the comments you read on Nairaland. The truth is that they don't hate themselves as much as a handful of ignorant ones here try to do. Maybe they do it for fun... So, don't dignify them by feeling bad. These fo.olish tribal e-warlords don't make up to 0.000000000000000000000000006% of the Nigerian population. The idea is that, since we don't negotiate with terrorists, don't try to engage in intelligent and logical discussions with I.diots. Thanks, Drops Mic 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Nobody: 8:05am On May 27, 2015 |
truefact:
[s]I said what is still holding you...seeing how progressive you are? To me, it is act of foolishness and cowardice that you are yet to start seceding[/s] Damn! Are you for real? Please, If we (Yoruba) choose to remain in Nigeria, how is that your concern? How does it affects you? Why are you crying more than the bereaved? You seriously need a cure for your insecurity you demented secessionist! 11 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Jobneeded12: 8:05am On May 27, 2015 |
truefact: .why are yorubas afraid of being their own? Yorubas claim to be progressive and sophisticated, they claim to love each other, yet they coward enough not want to be on their own and have the most wonderful country in Africa.. Yorubas if you are all the goodies you claim to be, I bet you will be the one fighting for secession
Yoruba learn to stand on your own after all you could have been the first Africans to have independence. ..you claim to be first in every thing. ...at least you can be the first to secede and have a progressive country Sorry Omo igbo I inow this good news is headache for you we love Nigeria but we want a restructured country that's all we are not filled with hate It's the igbo cowards sorry biafails that want there country that should stay in South east Pele keep on hating on yorubas while we keep shining 8 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Jobneeded12: 8:07am On May 27, 2015 |
Dollyak:
Yorubas were never this tribalistic, what happened? Yorubas are one of the most friendly and accommodating people in Africa. Some of the comments here is now making me think otherwise. My dad and most peoole I know are not like this. I hope they are not the odd one. It's those dirty stinky Biafra that need to be taught a lesson whenever it's then they shout igbo Kwenu so we must do the same, nonetheless we are okay with our Niger delta brithers 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by omonnakoda: 8:08am On May 27, 2015 |
What does this god news have to do with some miserable bastards and how they starved to death? 6 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Jobneeded12: 8:08am On May 27, 2015 |
Dollyak:
I am aware both side are partly to blame. There is surely a reason Igbos don't like Yoruba and vice versa. What I just want it peace. I chose to ignore the idiot because I felt trufact should know better. He sounds more intelligent than him so why engage him and make it worse. In addition, my comment were directed at him because of the recent agressive behaviour from some Igbo on this forum. The Igbos don't like yoruba because they thought we were cowards and we defeated them, they wondered how we have it so good, we are strategic and our Region has always been leading them 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by GodMode: 8:09am On May 27, 2015 |
Dollyak:
Yorubas were never this tribalistic, what happened? Yorubas are one of the most friendly and accommodating people in Africa. Some of the comments here is now making me think otherwise. My dad and most peoole I know are not like this. I hope they are not the odd one. You can be friendly/accommodating and still be tribalistic... Yorubas are tribalistic... OBJ is the only un-tribalistic yoruba I know... OBJ is a failure cos he wasn't a tribalist... Imagine a YORUBA man trying to extradite another YORUBA man to the U.S. That's pure foolishness.. How many U.S citizens have the U.S extradited to NIGERIA 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Jobneeded12: 8:09am On May 27, 2015 |
Ayus34:
How i wish i was alive to be in awo's position then....i would ve been so brutal and merciless aganinsf d ibos and awo will need to learn from my tactics! Yes Awolowo was a part of it because you wanted to take over Yoruba land Awolowo did the right thing never again will you want to take South west 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by OkutaNla: 8:09am On May 27, 2015 |
tochstorm: mofos tryimg to put rail through mud house ogun state.... shakes head... sey na like this we go dey dey? bidding for project started 2008 now this is 2015 and the project will till 2020 to complete jona vision whilst i watch sh!!t unfold in HD-3D. Hate less, live longer. ~ Terri GuillemetsWe hate some persons because we do not know them; and will not know them because we hate them. ~ Charles Caleb Colton“In time we hate that which we often fear.” ― William Shakespeare, Antony and Cleopatra 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by anonimi: 8:09am On May 27, 2015 |
I thought there is a NRC shuttle train that runs along this Ogun-Lagos corridor several times daily. Is it not more beneficial, value-for-money to increase the frequency and hire coaches/schedules to private companies instead of spending almost $3 billion building a parallel line with aloku metal scrap Toronto trains like the ones Fashola inspected since 2011 and paid $1 billion World Bank loan for that are yet to be seen in Lagos, four years after 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Nobody: 8:09am On May 27, 2015 |
superstar1:
Amen oooooo.
Some clowns will now be telling us how they left their land to build another man's land. You have just tribalised this thread by making this comment. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by WhoBeThisMan: 8:10am On May 27, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind: God please support the south west governors with knowledge and your fear.
Give them the will to do what is right for Yoruba people.
Bless Yoruba people
Amen It's not all about Yoruba people. Stop spreading tribalism. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by Jobneeded12: 8:11am On May 27, 2015 |
paabakp: It is sad to see alot of people fighting for a cause they know nothing about. One question for the Biafra fanatics is should Awolowo wait for the SE then to enter his region before facing them head on? Because if we actually read our history books which most of us don't, we would know that Biafrans actually took another region (mid western region) which does not belong to then during the war and were virtually at the door step of the western region (Ore) heading for Lagos the then capital of Nigeria. This is when and where Awolowo mobilized soldiers to defend his territory and unavoidably joined the war.
Finally, the war is over we shud come together and forge a new path ahead together. The enemies of our country is out there and within us. They are always looking for aw to divide us and also loot our country dry. The same method they have been using for years. THANK YOU OJUKU THOUGHT YORUBAS WERE COWARDS LOL NOT ONLY DID WE DEFEAT HIM IN ORE OBJ ENTERED ENUGU AND KILLED THEM, ADEKUNLE LIBERATED NIGER DELTA AND AWOLOWO WEAKENED THEM THIS IS WHY THEY HATE YORUBAS WE KILLED THEIR NASTY DREAM YEYE DEY SMELL TRIBE yeegbo 6 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ogun Metro Rail Transit To Cost N456bn (Approval granted to start) by micktoxin(m): 8:11am On May 27, 2015 |
OkutaNla:
That was really an amazing read. I do appreciate it. 3 Likes |