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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 2:12am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689:yet you carry your rooivalk to Turkey to get sales. Smh |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:41am On May 27, 2015 |
lionel4power: Ok - just confirm for me You are saying that these are facts? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 2:53am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689:yes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:24am On May 27, 2015 |
lionel4power: 1. True - but biggest doesn't mean best, or even most powerful 2. South Africa is more powerful in every conceivable means of power 3. Swiss are the happiest people on earth http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/switzerland-officially-the-happiest-country-on-earth--with-britain-lagging-in-21st-place-10221591.html 4. The fact that you even think that holding a successful election is a sign of maturity shows how immature you are. Anyway, South Africa has been democratic longer and has more political freedom 4a. South Africa ranks 30th in the democracy index, Nigeria ranks 121st http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index So in reality only one of the things you said was a fact 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:01am On May 27, 2015 |
agaugust: You are lost. The whole syb-system and power unit of gripens including avionics are done by SA company. Gripen, half SA fighter jet. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:04am On May 27, 2015 |
lionel4power: Go and ask NE people if they are happy with BH. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by xwolverine: 8:05am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: South Africa and democracy shouldn't be in the same sentence, not with the ANC holding the nation to ransom. Only second to communist China and North Korea How convenient, you now quote Wikipedia as a valid source when it suits your argument. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:21am On May 27, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: What do you understand by munition. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:30am On May 27, 2015 |
agaugust: World superpowers are bringing their machines here to be fixed with all those small wires. The likes of India, Britain, etc, have all brought their hardwares to have Mzansi's magic touch. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:31am On May 27, 2015 |
xwolverine: South Africa is more democratic than Nigeria The ANC are in the position that they are in because the people consistently vote them into that position - i am not surprised that I have to explain how democracy works to a Nigerian I quoted wiki for the convenience as the page has excellent citations in this instance Do you wish me to copy past the citations from wiki? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:13am On May 27, 2015 |
agaugust: If you bring Nigerian standards to this argument you will be demolished each and every time. Firstly...."50-70%" is NOT an agreement or contract. That is simply the Chinese playing you like f00ls. A firm agreement or contract will state that these specific parts will be built by these specific companies, no later than this specific time, and not costing more than this specific price. If costs are over-run or if production is late, penalties are paid. That is a firm agreement or contract. Do not dare come here with Nigerian standards..."we'll build-o 50-70% depending on what mood we're in". Secondly....every single bolt and screw on that ship is paid for by the Nigerian Navy. In that hole you called a head, you think it's wise to have the Chinese build the superstructure, the bulkhead, the communication mask, fittings. Sail it to Nigeria, then have Nigeria disassemble what they dont like, add their own bits? Listen to yourself f00l. Your small brain is confusing modularity with construction. If that ship had anyhing to do with Nigeria building 50-70% of it, its keel would have been laid in Nigeria. There is nothing more to that ship Nigeria can add to in the construction phase...simple. The Chinese lied to you...deal with it. Argument over. Oh and why are airliners pressurized? Why do you keep running away from the question like a little b.itch? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:31am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120:Dude you are fvcking lost again! It was Agaugust who said your OPVs were/will be towed to LAGOS, I posted the PIC to prove that at least one of your OPVs was difinately not being towed |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:41am On May 27, 2015 |
lionel4power:As I said before let's just wait 18 months then we can talk. Don't worry you don't have to wait for Biro any longer, its nearly completed. Heroin class old? Well to be honest your also the guy who said Congo is richer than Thailand. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:13am On May 27, 2015 |
jln115: You are completely r3tarded. Agaugust was referring to the 2nd OPV, F-92, not the first OPV delivered. It has always been clear that a significant part of the 2nd OPV would be completed in Port-Harcourt. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:20am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: The citation is factual, written a couple of years after the half-french AH entered SAAF service. The writers sources include open sourced material and testimonies from SAAF pilots and Engineers who worked on the AH. Fact, the Rooivalk is obsolete and runs on computers that are 30 years behind any AH currently in service. Evidence already known by many people around the world, only now corroborated by decent South-Africans. You can continue to live in denial, but the fact is your half-french AH is archaic, ancient and completely out of it's depth in the current battle space. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:23am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Are you ready to get fvcking wrecked? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:25am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: The Rooivalk only made it that far, as the Americans nor Europeans were never going to be willing, to allow both the Tiger or Apache to be built in turkey. It was a forgone conclusion. The Turks seeing how obsolete your half-french AH was rightly discarded it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:26am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: Patrick you r3tard, post your crap!! I know i've given you so many nightmare filled sleeps........ just deal with it, your AH is a dinosaur!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:31am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Your artical is from June 2007 The Rooivalk was not yet in service and had just defeated the Apache and Tiger in the Turkish trials 4 or so months after your artical US$137 million was spent on upgrading the Rooivalk http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2007/0711121430.asp?S=IT%20in%20Defence&A=DFN&O=FRGN In 2011 the Rooivalk was upgraded to Mk1 status - these upgrades include “modifications to the weapons systems, avionics and airborne systems”. http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-04-04-rooivalk-the-next-generation-mark-1/#.VWZ7hvlVhBd So, as we can see, your source is based on OPINION, is OUTDATED and based on INCOMPLETE facts [size=15pt]Now that we have rubbished your source - we will do what you have been avoiding for so long - we will speak about actual specifications of the aircraft [/size] 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:32am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120: [citation needed] Why did they enter their helos if they were never going to let the turks buy them? Fact is simple: Rooivalk beat the Apache and Tiger in Turkish trials - bespite "30 year old tech" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:33am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120: And yet as we have shown - it completely outperformed the Hind YOU OPERATE in the DRC So - if the Rooivalk is a dinosaur - what is the Hind? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:35am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120:Well either way , in this PIC your f92 looks pretty much completed
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:35am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: Patrick, i'm embarrassed by your poor showing, completely embarrassed!!! Is this supposed to be your armageddon citation? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:38am On May 27, 2015 |
jln115: Exactly!! It's hull would be done in China, and the rest of the fittings completed in Port-Harcourt. The contract is right on track. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:40am On May 27, 2015 |
Rooivalk Specifications: Thales TopOwl Helmets - A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE). - TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities). Electronic Warfare - Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS) - incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system. - The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation. -radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement. - laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats. - the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges. TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking) - The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor - Forward-looking infrared (FLIR) - autotracker - laser rangefinder -laser designator. Navigation - Doppler radar velocity sensor - Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system - heading sensor unit and an air data unit. Communication - two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing - one HF radio with frequency hopping - secure voice and data channels - and an IFF transponder. http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/ [size=20pt]Now your job is simple: 1. Show which of these capabilities existed 30 years ago 2. Show which of these capabilities your Hind has. You have made big claims, time to step up and prove them Mr Henry-BecauseIsaySo-120[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:41am On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120: This is your response? I obliterate your outdated, opinionated and incomplete source... and you come up with this? I guess your lack of argument shows that indeed your argument has been destroyed |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:45am On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: Yes, your dinosaur AH concurrently carrying out operations with an older model Hind produced in 1972!!! There is no substantial evidence that your Helicopter running on 30 years old computers performed better than the older hind. None at all. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 12:26pm On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: Largest economy Most powerful black country politically, economically socially and diplomatically. and one of the best militarily That's why Egypt reached out to us to fight ISIS. Nigerians happiest people on earth thehappinessshow.com/HappiestCountries.htm Ranking of the World's Happiest Countries 1. Nigeria 2. Mexico 3. Venezuela 4. El Salvador 5. Puerto Rico Believe urs while I believe mine 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:36pm On May 27, 2015 |
patches689: 1. All capabilities available since the 70's. 2. Go read up on the MI-35M Hind E http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mi-35m-hind-e/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 12:36pm On May 27, 2015 |
jln115: Your IQ is still dropping below minus zero very fast. I said ur heroine is getting old. (9 yrs and counting) And when is said Congo was richer than Thailand I meant it sarcastically. (I could have chosen any other country Bro with confirmed wealth) You SA live by every word dat drops out of a Nigerian mouth. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:19pm On May 27, 2015 |
Henry120: 1. Really? Do you have evidence to back that up or is it simply because you say so? 2. No - i said show which of these capabilities the Hind has, dont just post a random citation - show us!! Now, you have made big claims Mr Henry-BecauseIsaySo-120, it is time for you to back up your claims!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:20pm On May 27, 2015 |
lionel4power: Heroin sub will have a life-span of up to 40 years. It has completed 1/4 of its life cycle... and when it gets old it will be replaced. So what? |
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