pickabeau1:


1. why?..why would u not want to be ...your words....it is trending and 'normal' nowadays
2. Its an interesting film... first hand experience of single moms... not the crap you see being spewed around on family section about them being more desirable than spinsters
3. Google is your friend but i will help you


http://www.iiz-dvv.de/index.php?article_id=393&clang=1



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820057/

coogar:


i mean the education of wooing, not formal education o!



exactly!
and this is why men are compelled to do try-outs till they are perfect at it. have you ever wondered how some guys are great conversationalists around women & some other guys are dirt-boring you want to hang up the phone after 20 seconds.....the education is the difference.



of course, men are still at risk but the degree of the damage it can cause in women is higher. besides that, men tend to notice the symptoms almost immediately as there's no hiding place in the body of the man.

a woman can harbour gonorrhoea in her body of ages and not notice. she would only know until she infects her partner. if the partner keeps mum about it.....if she gets pregnant, her baby would become blind.

Kimoni:


Something is trending does not mean it's desirable to me. Must it?

I can bet my last penny nobody said single moms are more desirable than spinsters. I am sure what was said is that they should not be stigmatized. Is it not the character of the person that matters more than anything else? Is the one who aborted her child better than the one who gave life to the child? As long as you are not a virgin, you have no right to stigmatized a single mom/dad. It is repition of the mistakes that I kick against cuz it's no more a mistake, it's now a habit eg Tuface

coogar:


i mean the education of wooing, not formal education o!



I for fear naa


exactly!
and this is why men are compelled to do try-outs till they are perfect at it. have you ever wondered how some guys are great conversationalists around women & some other guys are dirt-boring you want to hang up the phone after 20 seconds.....the education is the difference.


Brings us back to square one, men do try-outs, with who naa? Women! Coogar does try-out with Ngozi, them no jel, they part. TV does try-out with Ngozi, it didn't work so they part, Gbenga, Sule, Adamu, Nnamdi all take their turns with her. Eventually, Pickabeau marries Ngozi. Now who is to blame and who should be shamed? My answer - all of them



of course, men are still at risk but the degree of the damage it can cause in women is higher. besides that, men tend to notice the symptoms almost immediately as there's no hiding place in the body of the man.

a woman can harbour gonorrhoea in her body of ages and not notice. she would only know until she infects her partner. if the partner keeps mum about it.....if she gets pregnant, her baby would become blind.

coogar:


you would find out that women are mostly responsible for the stigmatisation of single mothers.

Kimoni:


Something is trending does not mean it's desirable to me. Must it?

I can bet my last penny nobody said single moms are more desirable than spinsters. I am sure what was said is that they should not be stigmatized. Is it not the character of the person that matters more than anything else? Is the one who aborted her child better than the one who gave life to the child? As long as you are not a virgin, you have no right to stigmatized a single mom/dad. It is repition of the mistakes that I kick against cuz it's no more a mistake, it's now a habit eg Tuface

Kimoni:


I need empirical evidence

Nobody has stigmatized single women more on NL than TV.

pickabeau1:



Now you are making things personal
I fail to see any stigma by him or anyone else

Saying the truth is now stigma?

Saying that single mom's are not better than unmarried girls is now stigma?


Why do u women hate to hear the truth...

Kimoni:


Pick, pls don't instigate anything I beg you.

I mentioned TV for a reason, he doesn't sound like the kind of guy that will deny what he believes in.

How many times has TV advised singles to stay away from single mothers and divorcees? On this same thread?

Or you have never read this before?

Yet again, you are the one twisting that statement. Show me where any one said single mothers are better than spinsters?

pickabeau1:



Yes he is able to make himself clear
The message which is not only his but most of us's is that single motherhood is not ideal and should not be encouraged

As a single mom you are not able to command the full spectrum of desirable men but have To settle


This is against what you and your fellow femmes say up n down

That they are as if not more desirable than unmarried girls as they have shown they are fertile...

That is laughable to say the least and borders on the aburd


Is that the stigma you accuse us of doing

Kimoni:


Ok

Kimoni:


I need empirical evidence

Nobody has stigmatized single women more on NL than TV.

pickabeau1:



No wahala

How is your assignment going

If u don't mind...what's it on

coogar:


TV never stigmatises single mothers - he just puts them in check when it seems they are being glorified. we get it that there would always be marital issues that lead to separation but then it shouldn't be the ideal setting or the default. however, you see some women beating their chests & feigning happiness that single motherhood is the best option.

Kimoni:



~ Why did Metronet fail

~ why did BSF (building for the future) fail

~ why is NHS in a financial squeeze

Answers plsss

Kimoni:

Interesting
Women need to start defending themselves like this too ooo (lessons learnt)

It's called stigmatization. When you advise singles to steer clear of single mothers, I don't know what else to call it.

No woman is happy being a single mother, the ideal is for both parent to train up a child. But if it happens, she just has to embrace it and move on. That shouldn't stop her life in any way and it's definitely not a minus to her and she shouldn't allow anybody tell her that.

In trying to embrace her situation, if it is misinterpreted as being proud of her situation, so be it.

I repeat, no woman will prefer being a single mother to being a happily married wife and mother. If you believe otherwise, show me empirical evidence

pickabeau1:
Kimoni
Are u the queen of empirical land?

pickabeau1:



Don't know much about the first two

NHS

Medical tourists
Exorbitant pay for administrators
Low birth rate and aging population
Economic recession

Kimoni:


Hmnnnn

Funny thing is I didn't explore any of these reasons except for the last point which I talked briefly on. They are not material enough in my judgement. thnx though


Coogar and TV must know about the first two. I await their analysis

No be everytime we go dey discuss man - woman matter

Man shall not live by bread alone

Kimoni:


Hmnnnn

Funny thing is I didn't explore any of these reasons except for the last point which I talked briefly on. They are not material enough in my judgement. thnx though


Coogar and TV must know about the first two. I await their analysis
No be everytime we go dey discuss man - woman matter
Man shall not live by bread alone

coogar:


brothers in arms!



he advises them to steer clear because majority of single mothers are bitter & they mostly have nothing but horrible advice for young women. their previous experience with men often beclouds their reasoning.



that was what i thought too until i found this section & i saw how single motherhood is glorified. the latent message they pass is a woman is better off without a husband & if she needs a child, she can adopt or find a spërm dönor somewhere to put her in the family way.


embracing her situation is a different thing altogether to glorifying it. simply put....single motherhood is like a driver with a busted tyre and using his spare tyre. yes, the spare tyre would serve its purpose but then it shouldn't be the ideal situation.


i also repeat, you haven't seen some comments on this section where women confidently said men are of no use at all.....as far as they are concerned, a woman on her own can raise her kids better than most happily married couples.

before you say a word, they had already mentioned ben carson or barack obama.......completely forgetting for every ben carson, there are hundreds of thousands of such kids languishing in american prisons or in a morgue!

coogar:


NHS?
from my hut in ituku ozalla? i only know of our local teaching hospital here.

Kimoni:




Yes oooo

Everything you say in my world must be backed with empirical evidence.

Did you read that interview where Ekwesili asked for same and the whole of Naija went gaga

Meanwhile, she said it innocently without any pun intended

Kimoni:


Why are the teaching hospitals in Ituku ozalla in a financial squeeze? The reasons might just be the same

Why did Metronet fail?

Why did BSF fails?

coogar:


i can confidently answer this one? witchcraft is the major problem of the teaching hospitals here



poor leadership & inadequate management.

Agree, my first point

the spending cuts of cameron & clegg put paid to BSF in 2010. conservatives & cuts are like siamese twins.

And y'all still voted for them

Kimoni:

And y'all still voted for them undecided undecided

coogar:


the other candidates were poorer. labour should have had that victory but many brits don't trust their policy on immigration. ed miliband backstabbed his own brother to become the leader of labour, i think that might have also worked against him.

Kimoni:


Politics knows no brother, Everyman for himself

I honestly thought labour would win, I refused to trust any Brit since then

coogar:


labour got fractured too.
all the votes SNP got would have normally gone to the labour party but scotland formed their own national bloc. when a house is divided against itself, failure is imminent!

Kimoni:


True! But you guys too should free them. Marriage no be by force naa

Lol

coogar:


but...but we need their oyel