agaugust:


I want to be lenient with you, I know you are not in defense industry, so I have to take it easy on you. It's not easy to know military stuff if you have not been involved with it for many years in one way or the other.

The photo-screen shot you posted is NOT Warrior class OPV, it's a T-Craft IPV, so the data is wrong since the boat is wrong.

Never mind dude, just relax and watch me and Patches play this game. I have him trapped by his own words, he enjoys making fraudulent claims and I will rub h.is face in thick muddy mud.

Don't try rescue him, it's not worth it. Patches knows next to nothing about sea warfare, so I am gonna t.orment him as usual.

Stay out of it like a gentle man, why should your nose bleed for a punch I am throwing at Patches?
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Oh my fvcking word dude, the T-Craft specs are under the PIC dude, did you actually think a small IPV has a range of 3000nm? And you call yourself a military reasercher!

Go visit the site again! Im fvcking begging you, then come back and debate with me again.

Henry120:


Rooivalk only got slight upgrades, not enough to make a difference. The only thing new from the original block was the mokopa missiles.

*missiles the SAAF still hasn't ordered!

Jap the Mk1 got slight upgrades, after this it was further upgraded to mk1f STD.

Henry120:


My sources are up to date!

Nope your sources are dated 2007 and 2011 respectively, mine is dated 2013.

After the retirement of the Cactus system, the SA Army only really had 35 mm guns for air defence. It's good to see that the Ground Based Air Defence System (GBADS) is coming along nicely, and that army planners are thinking ahead. Instead of rushing to implement systems at the last hour.

GBADS Phase 1. Short range Starstreak missile and launchers. Operational.




GBADS Phase 2. Ugrade of twin 35 mm guns with Skyshield FCU and AHEAD ammunition. Ongoing.




GBADS Phase 2 Continued. 20km range land-based Umkhonto missile launchers. Testing and evaluation phase.
From what I know the hardware (missiles, launch containers, etc) is ready, while the fire control software is being tweaked and finalized
by the likes of CSIR and Reutech Radar Systems.

saengine:
After the retirement of the Cactus system, the SA Army only really had 35 mm guns for air defence. It's good to see that the Ground Based Air Defence System (GBADS) is coming along nicely, and that army planners are thinking ahead. Instead of rushing to implement systems at the last hour.

GBADS Phase 1. Short range Starstreak missile and launchers. Operational.




GBADS Phase 2. Ugrade of twin 35 mm guns with Skyshield FCU and AHEAD ammunition. Ongoing.




GBADS Phase 2 Continued. 20km range landed-based Umkhonto missile launchers. Testing and evaluation phase.
From what I know the hardware (missiles, launch containers, etc) is ready, while the fire control software is being tweaked and finalized
by the likes of CSIR and Reutech Radar Systems.

Starstreak is the best VSHORAD in Africa

and with the implimentation of Sky-Sheild we will be the only African military, and one of the few militarys in the world, to have an active CRAM system

For our Resident R3tard @Agaugust:

SAAF 2015...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HmDBLbaNI

SA Army vehicle convoy through the streets of Potchefstroom. Never ending


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McVopFg8uGQ

saengine:
SA Army vehicle convoy through the streets of Potchefstroom. Never ending


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McVopFg8uGQ

lolz ! Still basking in the illusion of an army that love pictures more than Hollywood celebrities? Your mofo is world class,

Patchesagain:


Starstreak is the best VSHORAD in Africa

and with the implimentation of Sky-Sheild we will be the only African military, and one of the few militarys in the world, to have an active CRAM system

short range

lezz:
lolz ! Still basking in the illusion of an army that love pictures more than Hollywood celebrities? Your mofo is world class,

Go deal with Boko Haram who started with sticks and stones, and ended up with tanks and anti-aircraft guns right under the nose of your
superior and mighty military.

lezz:
lolz ! Still basking in the illusion of an army that love pictures more than Hollywood celebrities? Your mofo is world class,

99% of pictures are taken by private citizens

lionel4power:
short range

And so?

medium range is on the way

long range is under development

We are building an air defence system that you cannot even afford to buy

Patchesagain:


99% of pictures are taken by private citizens

invited by the military top brass for propaganda.

lezz:
lolz ! Still basking in the illusion of an army that love pictures more than Hollywood celebrities? Your mofo is world class,

lol picture op army... No real experience

saengine:


Go deal with Boko Haram who started with sticks and stones, and ended up with tanks and anti-aircraft guns right under the nose of your
superior and mighty military.

and your battle starved military is busy posing for pics more than real army that are battle proven, tested and hardened.

S.A army begging for the spot light.

lezz:
invited by the military top brass for propaganda.

The press are only invited to 2 events a year

The rest is picked up by private citizens or soldiers in a personal capacity - pictures taken during training exercises.

Unlike your military, we train heavily, we train your military as well

Anyway, your posts sound very bitter

lionel4power:
lol picture op army... No real experience

what their army is good at is picture warfare .

lionel4power:
lol picture op army... No real experience

Experience is passed down through training

South Africa is vastly more experienced than the Nigerian military in that sense

lezz:
and your battle starved military is busy posing for pics more than real army that are battle proven, tested and hardened.

S.A army begging for the spot light.

Are you saying it is a bad thing that South Africa is not in the middle of a civil war and has its waters and coast-line infested with pirates like Nigeria?

Anyway, experience is past down through training

Please show me these "posed" pictures you refer to

lezz:
what their army is good at is picture warfare .

#Butthurt

Sorry our military doesnt look like the rag-tag militia that the Nigerian military is.

lezz:
and your battle starved military is busy posing for pics more than real army that are battle proven, tested and hardened.

S.A army begging for the spot light.

Yes you are right. You are making perfect sense. The less pics and videos a certain military has, the more effective they are. Go complain to the person who took out his phone and recorded the convoy. Dont waste my time.

Patchesagain:


The press are only invited to 2 events a year

The rest is picked up by private citizens or soldiers in a personal capacity - pictures taken during training exercises.

Unlike your military, we train heavily, we train your military as well

Anyway, your posts sound very bitter

nice excuse for your fashion model military which has failed in every given task at national and international level.
Nigeria and Ethiopia remain the biggest contributor in Africa to the UN peace keeping efforts.

You have been telling lies and twisting facts since the commencement of this thread.

Your army since 1994 which hierarchy have been occupied by Zulu freedom fighters are all a bunch half-literates whose biggest qualification into the sandf is guerrilla warfare.

saengine:


Yes you are right. You are making perfect sense. The less pics and videos a certain military has, the more effective they are. Go complain to the person who took out his phone and recorded the convoy. Dont waste my time.

post confined to the dustbin.

Patchesagain:


#Butthurt

Sorry our military doesnt look like the rag-tag militia that the Nigerian military is.

sophisticated sandf still looking for rhino poachers.

Patchesagain:


Are you saying it is a bad thing that South Africa is not in the middle of a civil war and has its waters and coast-line infested with pirates like Nigeria?

Anyway, experience is past down through training

Please show me these "posed" pictures you refer to

I am saying no one gives a jack about S A or your military. S A is no longer relevant.

Countries who should be on this thread are Ethiopians and Egyptians . not tree hoping Zulus looking for international validation.

Jack out of here and go see if the sandf has found their "highly skilled" white recruits they've been looking for.

lezz:
nice excuse for your fashion model military which has failed in every given task at national and international level.
Nigeria and Ethiopia remain the biggest contributor in Africa to the UN peace keeping efforts.

You have been telling lies and twisting facts since the commencement of this thread.

Your army since 1994 which hierarchy have been occupied by Zulu freedom fighters are all a bunch half-literates whose biggest qualification into the sandf is guerrilla warfare.

SANDF has yet to fail a task.

Biggest contributore because you need the UN money to pay your wages!!

SANDF heirachy is a mix of former SADF soldiers and former freedom fighters.

Those "half illiterates" you refer to all hold extensive and top level training from countries like Russia and East Germany and were again re-trained when they were introduced into the SANDF.

Dude, if you dont like the SANDF thats fine, but dont come here and spill nonsense

lezz:
sophisticated sandf still looking for rhino poachers.

Cross border Rhino poaching is no longer a problem thanks to the SANDF

Poaching is now being conducted from within South Africa which makes it law-enforcements job, not the SANDF

This is so because the SANDF has never been deployed directly for counter-poaching activities, they are deployed for border protection and security.

lezz:
I am saying no one gives a jack about S A or your military. S A is no longer relevant.

Countries who should be on this thread are Ethiopians and Egyptians . not tree hoping Zulus looking for international validation.

Jack out of here and go see if the sandf has found their "highly skilled" white recruits they've been looking for.

You sound emotional

You should go have a liedown and a beer to calm down

Come back when you have something to contribute

FYI: We get more than enough international validation - it is us whom Russia and China chose to form a partnership with, not you. I think that says enough.

Patchesagain:


SANDF has yet to fail a task.

Biggest contributore because you need the UN money to pay your wages!!

SANDF heirachy is a mix of former SADF soldiers and former freedom fighters.

Those "half illiterates" you refer to all hold extensive and top level training from countries like Russia and East Germany and were again re-trained when they were introduced into the SANDF.

Dude, if you dont like the SANDF thats fine, but dont come here and spill nonsense

Nigeria spent over $10 billion in Liberia alone in the 90's. We and Ethiopia are in the UN due to our military heritage. S.A only come to make up the numbers or fulfil formality that's why a country like Tanzania will head you in an international mission

Please, Zulu incompetence both in your military and beyond are well acknowledged. It is not even controversial