lezz:
Nigeria spent over $10 billion in Liberia alone in the 90's. We and Ethiopia are in the UN due to our military heritage. S.A only come to make up the numbers or fulfil formality that's why a country like Tanzania will head you in an international mission

Please, Zulu incompetence both in your military and beyond are well acknowledged. It is not even controversial

Post some citations to back that up and then we can discuss you argument.

Patchesagain:


You sound emotional

You should go have a liedown and a beer to calm down

Come back when you have something to contribute

FYI: We get more than enough international validation - it is us whom Russia and China chose to form a partnership with, not you. I think that says enough.

partnership on what ? I beg to differ with this Zulu. . You have been kicked out of the BRICs you got through the backdoor. bwuahhaha.

Zulus love vain glory they can't achieve.

Patchesagain:


Post some citations to back that up and then we can discuss you argument.

which of my points do you want citation for ?

lezz:
partnership on what ? I beg to differ with this Zulu. . You have been kicked out of the BRICs you got through the backdoor. bwuahhaha.

Zulus love vain glory they can't achieve.

Are we or are we not a BRICS member?

Is Nigeria a BRICS member?

No?

I rest my case

lezz:
which of my points do you want citation for ?

Everything you said

Patchesagain:


Are we or are we not a BRICS member?

Is Nigeria a BRICS member?

No?

I rest my case

I am dancing skelewu before responding to this very post.

Patrick or whatever they call you. You are an e-criminal. Debating with you is waste of data.

Nairaland has known no worse fraud and dishonest member than you. And that will be your legacy here, I'll see to that.

Now back to topic : O' Neil formed and coined the term BRIC and he never included S.A. You know this.

Other members invited S.A into it. Just like S.A was trying to invite Nigeria but we graciously turned down because we're bigger than you.

Academics and Economic institutions and analysts never include S.A in BRIC.

Same O' Neil coined MINTS which have a better prospects than BRIC and Nigeria is in MINT.

bwuahahaja.

lezz:
I am dancing skelewu before responding to this very post.

Patrick or whatever they call you. You are an e-criminal. Debating with you is waste if data.

Nairaland has known no worse fraud and dishonest member than you. And that will be your legacy here, I'll see to that.

Now back to topic : O' Neil formed and coined the term BRIC and he never included S.A. You know this.

Other members invited S.A into it. Just like S.A was trying to invite Nigeria but we graciously turned down because we're bigger than you.

Academics and Economic institutions and analysts never include S.A in BRIC.

Same O' Neil coined MINTS which have a better prospects than BRIC and Nigeria us in MINT.

bwuahahaja.

So You literally have no idea what BRICS is?

Nigeria was never invited

MINT is a fantasY

You are a waste of time

Into the trash you go

Patchesagain:


Everything you said

Patchesagain:

So You literally have no idea what BRICS is?

Nigeria was never invited

MINT is a fantasY

You are a waste of time

Into the trash you go

Here is for your comprehension. I know you don't give up even in the face of uncompromised fact. Read this for your own fvckery:The nomenclatures of economic trading
blocs are becoming numerous: It all started
with G 8 , the great eight largest economies ,
G 20 and then BRICS , organization of five
major emerging national economies of
Brazil, Russia ,
India , China and South Africa .
Now comes MINT nations, MINT is the
acronym for an association of four major
emerging economies Of Mexico , Indonesia ,
Nigeria and Turkey.
Both MINT and BRICS were coined and
popularized by Jim O ’ Neil, an economist of
first order and the former chairman of
Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Jim
O ’ Neil can be rightly called an authority on
productivity assessment of emerging
economies .
” As of 2013 , the five BRICS countries
represent almost 3 billion people , with a
combined nominal GDP of US$16 . 039
trillion , and an estimated US $4 trillion in
combined foreign reserves . Presently, South
Africa holds the chair of the BRICS group,
having hosted the group’ s fifth summit in
2013 .
The BRICS have received both praise and
criticism from numerous quarters. ”
The major criticism was for the admission
of South Africa into the BRICS with its
relatively smaller GDP and inadequate
infrastructures, together with its annual
anemic economic growth .
Jim O ’ Neil , who disagreed with South Africa
admission into the BRICS , also popularized
this phenomenon of bloc of nations
neologism that are futuristic with dominant
emerging economies . And now he has also
fashioned and endorsed MINT nations with
the recent economic waning of BRICS
nations.
This is how Jim O ’ Neil introduced MINT
nations in his article in Bloomberg and he
delineated MINT as the potential emerging
investment destination

lezz:
Here is for your comprehension. I know you don't give up even in the face of uncompromised fact. Read this for your own fvckery:The nomenclatures of economic trading
blocs are becoming numerous: It all started
with G 8 , the great eight largest economies ,
G 20 and then BRICS , organization of five
major emerging national economies of
Brazil, Russia ,
India , China and South Africa .
Now comes MINT nations, MINT is the
acronym for an association of four major
emerging economies Of Mexico , Indonesia ,
Nigeria and Turkey.
Both MINT and BRICS were coined and
popularized by Jim O ’ Neil, an economist of
first order and the former chairman of
Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Jim
O ’ Neil can be rightly called an authority on
productivity assessment of emerging
economies .
” As of 2013 , the five BRICS countries
represent almost 3 billion people , with a
combined nominal GDP of US$16 . 039
trillion , and an estimated US $4 trillion in
combined foreign reserves . Presently, South
Africa holds the chair of the BRICS group,
having hosted the group’ s fifth summit in
2013 .
The BRICS have received both praise and
criticism from numerous quarters. ”
The major criticism was for the admission
of South Africa into the BRICS with its
relatively smaller GDP and inadequate
infrastructures, together with its annual
anemic economic growth .
Jim O ’ Neil , who disagreed with South Africa
admission into the BRICS , also popularized
this phenomenon of bloc of nations
neologism that are futuristic with dominant
emerging economies . And now he has also
fashioned and endorsed MINT nations with
the recent economic waning of BRICS
nations.
This is how Jim O ’ Neil introduced MINT
nations in his article in Bloomberg and he
delineated MINT as the potential emerging
investment destination

So you article confirms that South Africa is a BRICS nation?

Well done on killing you argument?

MINT remains a fantasy

BRICS is a reality

China And Russia chose RSA over Nigeria

Thanks forbade help

Patchesagain:

So You literally have no idea what BRICS is?

Nigeria was never invited

MINT is a fantasY

You are a waste of time

Into the trash you go

do you want more proof s.a is not a BRIC member as of now ?

lezz:
do you want more proof s.a is not a BRIC member as of now ?

Yes me and Patch would like proof please!You have yet to show a single shed of evidance that SA is not part of BRIC S
Oh and BTW SA has the best infrastructure out of all the BRICS nations.

Patchesagain:


[size=20pt]TIME FOR A MATHS LESSON!![/size]

Warrior class OPV

Range: 400nmi (7,400 km) at 18knts (32kmh)

7,400 divided by 32 = 231

Hence - it takes the warrior class 231 hours to cover 7400km (less than 10 days)

How many hours in 10 days? 240!

P18N range 3000nmi (5556km) at 18knts (32kmh)

5556 divided by 32 = 173

It takes 173 hours for the P18N to run out of fuel (7 days)

Conclusion: Warrior class outranges the P18N because it can patrol for ALL 10 days of its endurance while the P18N can only patrol for 7 days of its endurance

[size=20pt]All your above calculations are wrong !

Wrong because the max range of Warrior class is NOT 4,000 miles.

It's 3,600 miles....Fool. You don't know the range of your own boat

Performance:

Output, max: 11mW
Speed, max: 32 kts
Range, miles: 1,500 miles at 30 kts or 3,600+ miles at economic speed
Endurance: 10 days stores

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=454

All your calculation and maths is wrong !

I am your teacher

[/size]

Patchesagain:


Where?

We are still waiting to see the effectiveness of chaff launchers.

Bring your warship out for a fight then ! talk to Zuma that you want a war. Simple.

Patchesagain:


Where?

We are still waiting to see the effectiveness of chaff launchers.

Bring your warship out for a fight then ! Ask Jacob Zuma to declare war on Nigeria .

Patchesagain:


Are we or are we not a BRICS member?

Is Nigeria a BRICS member?

No?

I rest my case

No Nigeria is not a member of BRICS

But she is a member of MINT

.....

Patchesagain:


Ask the Royal Navy

You must post the proof of Royal navy evidence, since you make the claim. Post citations for us to see their Exocet war experience.
.

Patchesagain:


No no no

You have made claims about chaff launchers being 100% effective

With no proof to support this

I will not entertain your argument until you provide some form of proof or fact to substantiate your claims

I never said chaff launchers are 100% effective. Quote where I said so, quote me now !

I never talked about chaff on P18N, I said decoy, not chaff.

It was you Southies who first started by asking if our decoy is 100% effective, so you must post proof that it is not !
.

Patchesagain:


Valour class dont have to stop aywhere

We have a resupply ship you chucklefuck

[size=16pt]Patches admits with tears :

"Our Valour Frigate CANNOT match your NNS Thunder range in patrol around Africa
.[/size]

Patchesagain:


This is the foundation of your argument

What proof do you have to substantiate it?

What proof do you have that Valour frigate chaff will work to stop missiles or that your CIWS will stop missiles?

You are the ones challenging P18N anti-missile decoy, so prove it does not work, you need to prove it, substantiate your claims !
.

Patchesagain:


- hind taking off
- which of your warships can your hind land on?
- backflips can be an effective combat maneuver
- hovering in combat and hovering to land are very different things - hind makes gun runs like a fixed wing aircraft in combat because it lacks the maneuverability to use cover and hover
- fact remains, hind cannot do advanced evasive maneuvers

-Prove to us with source that Hind cannot hover. Hovering is a normal helicopter capability.

-Backflip is for air show aerobatics display, not combat. Helicopter facing the enemy, then does backflip and faces the same enemy again, any sense in that? The pilots will be sh.ot down by anti-aircraft during his backflip, the helicopter cannot fire during a backflip you dundee !

- helicopters don't need air to air advanced maneuvers to attack a ground target. It's not jet vs jet dogfight in the air. Olodo man !

- Hind taking off? Where is the dust from the rotors blowing the desert soil ?

Photo 1 : NAF Hind doing successful combat zone Nap Of Earth flight in which Rooivalk failed and crashed in broad daylight
Photo 2 & 3 : Combat helicopter talking off and raising heavy dust as usual
.

lezz:
do you want more proof s.a is not a BRIC member as of now ?

OMG

This is hilarious

Read your own source

agaugust:




[size=20pt]All your above calculations are wrong !

Wrong because the max range of Warrior class is NOT 4,000 miles.

It's 3,600 miles....Fool. You don't know the range of your own boat

Performance:

Output, max: 11mW
Speed, max: 32 kts
Range, miles: 1,500 miles at 30 kts or 3,600+ miles at economic speed
Endurance: 10 days stores

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=454

All your calculation and maths is wrong !

I am your teacher

[/size]

[size=20pt]TIME FOR A MATHS LESSON!![/size]

Warrior class OPV

Range: 3600nmi (6 667 km) at 18knts (32kmh)

667 divided by 32 = 208

Hence - it takes the warrior class 208 hours to cover 7400km (less than 10 days)

How many hours in 10 days? 240!

P18N range 3000nmi (5556km) at 18knts (32kmh)

5556 divided by 32 = 173

It takes 173 hours for the P18N to run out of fuel (7 days)

Conclusion: Warrior class outranges the P18N because it can patrol for ALL 10 days of its endurance while the P18N can only patrol for 7 days of its endurance

agaugust:


Bring your warship out for a fight then ! talk to Zuma that you want a war. Simple.

Augstus

Stop avoiding the question

You have said chaff launchers are 100% effective

What has made you come to this conclusion?

ocelot2006:


No Nigeria is not a member of BRICS

But she is a member of MINT

Exactly

and BRICS > MINT

Patchesagain:


Valour Class has SSM's

Your OPV will be sunk by them

If you wish to claim that your chaff-launchers can defeat all 17 exocet missiles that the SAN has, then you need to provide proof.

Provide proof that it cannot, you are the one saying PJ-46 anti-missile system does not work, so prove it !

P18N OPV of Nigeria will defeat ALL Southie Valour frigate missiles.

Now you don't have 17 Exocets, you have done test firing on your 4 ships as claimed by SAN navy officer @Andrewza and others like @Snydergp of SANDF, @Saengine and others.

Means SAN has ONLY 13 Excoet missiles remaining, enough for one and a half Frigates, no wonder you keep only one frigate operational
.

agaugust:


You must post the proof of Royal navy evidence, since you make the claim. Post citations for us to see their Exocet war experience.
.

HMS SHEFFIELD - mortally damaged south east of Falklands by Exocet missile. Burnt out and sank in tow on Monday 10th May
ATLANTIC CONVEYOR - mortally damaged north east of Falklands by Exocet missile fired by Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc. Burnt out and later sank in tow.
HMS Glamorgan - damaged off Stanley by land-based Exocet missile
http://www.naval-history.net/F62-Falklands-British_ships_lost.htm


5 exocet were sold to argentina
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/falkland-islands/45704/bbc-finds-evidence-french-helped-argentines-sink-our-ships

HMS Sheffield had chaff launchers

3/5 = 60% hit probability

60% of 17 = 10

10 of our Exocet will hit your one OPV

It will be atomized

agaugust:


I never said chaff launchers are 100% effective. Quote where I said so, quote me now !

I never talked about chaff on P18N, I said decoy, not chaff.

It was you Southies who first started by asking if our decoy is 100% effective, so you must post proof that it is not !
.

You said your decoy launcher is 100% effective

Prove it

Patchesagain:


Prove you work in the defence industry

liar.

I should post proof of where I work and my personal data on Nairaland? How much are you paying me for that? 1 million dollars ?
.

agaugust:


[size=16pt]Patches admits with tears :

"Our Valour Frigate CANNOT match your NNS Thunder range in patrol around Africa
.[/size]

It can with the Drakensburg

agaugust:


What proof do you have that Valour frigate chaff will work to stop missiles or that your CIWS will stop missiles?

You are the ones challenging P18N anti-missile decoy, so prove it does not work, you need to prove it, substantiate your claims !
.

I have made no claims about the effectiveness of the Valour class ASM/SSM defence

You have said that your decoy launcher will defeat ALL missiles

Prove it