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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:10pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz: Post some citations to back that up and then we can discuss you argument. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:11pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain:partnership on what ? I beg to differ with this Zulu. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Zulus love vain glory they can't achieve. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:13pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain:which of my points do you want citation for ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:14pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz: Are we or are we not a BRICS member? Is Nigeria a BRICS member? No? I rest my case ![]()
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:14pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz: Everything you said |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:24pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Patrick or whatever they call you. You are an e-criminal. Debating with you is waste of data. Nairaland has known no worse fraud and dishonest member than you. And that will be your legacy here, I'll see to that. Now back to topic : O' Neil formed and coined the term BRIC and he never included S.A. You know this. Other members invited S.A into it. Just like S.A was trying to invite Nigeria but we graciously turned down because we're bigger than you. Academics and Economic institutions and analysts never include S.A in BRIC. Same O' Neil coined MINTS which have a better prospects than BRIC and Nigeria is in MINT. bwuahahaja. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:31pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz:So You literally have no idea what BRICS is? Nigeria was never invited MINT is a fantasY You are a waste of time Into the trash you go |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:32pm On May 30, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:36pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Here is for your comprehension. I know you don't give up even in the face of uncompromised fact. Read this for your own fvckery:The nomenclatures of economic trading blocs are becoming numerous: It all started with G 8 , the great eight largest economies , G 20 and then BRICS , organization of five major emerging national economies of Brazil, Russia , India , China and South Africa . Now comes MINT nations, MINT is the acronym for an association of four major emerging economies Of Mexico , Indonesia , Nigeria and Turkey. Both MINT and BRICS were coined and popularized by Jim O ’ Neil, an economist of first order and the former chairman of Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Jim O ’ Neil can be rightly called an authority on productivity assessment of emerging economies . ” As of 2013 , the five BRICS countries represent almost 3 billion people , with a combined nominal GDP of US$16 . 039 trillion , and an estimated US $4 trillion in combined foreign reserves . Presently, South Africa holds the chair of the BRICS group, having hosted the group’ s fifth summit in 2013 . The BRICS have received both praise and criticism from numerous quarters. ” The major criticism was for the admission of South Africa into the BRICS with its relatively smaller GDP and inadequate infrastructures, together with its annual anemic economic growth . Jim O ’ Neil , who disagreed with South Africa admission into the BRICS , also popularized this phenomenon of bloc of nations neologism that are futuristic with dominant emerging economies . And now he has also fashioned and endorsed MINT nations with the recent economic waning of BRICS nations. This is how Jim O ’ Neil introduced MINT nations in his article in Bloomberg and he delineated MINT as the potential emerging investment destination 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:42pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz: So you article confirms that South Africa is a BRICS nation? Well done on killing you argument? MINT remains a fantasy BRICS is a reality China And Russia chose RSA over Nigeria Thanks forbade help ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:46pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain:do you want more proof s.a is not a BRIC member as of now ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:50pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz:Yes me and Patch would like proof please!You have yet to show a single shed of evidance that SA is not part of BRIC S Oh and BTW SA has the best infrastructure out of all the BRICS nations. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:36pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: [size=20pt]All your above calculations are wrong ! Wrong because the max range of Warrior class is NOT 4,000 miles. It's 3,600 miles....Fool. You don't know the range of your own boat ![]() ![]() Performance: Output, max: 11mW Speed, max: 32 kts Range, miles: 1,500 miles at 30 kts or 3,600+ miles at economic speed Endurance: 10 days stores http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=454 All your calculation and maths is wrong ! I am your teacher ![]() ![]() [/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:39pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Bring your warship out for a fight then ! talk to Zuma that you want a war. Simple. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:40pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Bring your warship out for a fight then ! Ask Jacob Zuma to declare war on Nigeria . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ocelot2006(m): 1:42pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: No Nigeria is not a member of BRICS But she is a member of MINT |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:44pm On May 30, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:45pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You must post the proof of Royal navy evidence, since you make the claim. Post citations for us to see their Exocet war experience. . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:48pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: I never said chaff launchers are 100% effective. Quote where I said so, quote me now ! I never talked about chaff on P18N, I said decoy, not chaff. It was you Southies who first started by asking if our decoy is 100% effective, so you must post proof that it is not ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:50pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: [size=16pt]Patches admits with tears : "Our Valour Frigate CANNOT match your NNS Thunder range in patrol around Africa ![]() ![]() .[/size]
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:55pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: What proof do you have that Valour frigate chaff will work to stop missiles or that your CIWS will stop missiles? You are the ones challenging P18N anti-missile decoy, so prove it does not work, you need to prove it, substantiate your claims ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:02pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: -Prove to us with source that Hind cannot hover. Hovering is a normal helicopter capability. -Backflip is for air show aerobatics display, not combat. Helicopter facing the enemy, then does backflip and faces the same enemy again, any sense in that? The pilots will be sh.ot down by anti-aircraft during his backflip, the helicopter cannot fire during a backflip you dundee ! - helicopters don't need air to air advanced maneuvers to attack a ground target. It's not jet vs jet dogfight in the air. Olodo man ! - Hind taking off? Where is the dust from the rotors blowing the desert soil ? Photo 1 : NAF Hind doing successful combat zone Nap Of Earth flight in which Rooivalk failed and crashed in broad daylight Photo 2 & 3 : Combat helicopter talking off and raising heavy dust as usual .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:04pm On May 30, 2015 |
lezz: OMG This is hilarious Read your own source |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:06pm On May 30, 2015 |
agaugust: [size=20pt]TIME FOR A MATHS LESSON!![/size] Warrior class OPV Range: 3600nmi (6 667 km) at 18knts (32kmh) 667 divided by 32 = 208 Hence - it takes the warrior class 208 hours to cover 7400km (less than 10 days) How many hours in 10 days? 240! P18N range 3000nmi (5556km) at 18knts (32kmh) 5556 divided by 32 = 173 It takes 173 hours for the P18N to run out of fuel (7 days) Conclusion: Warrior class outranges the P18N because it can patrol for ALL 10 days of its endurance while the P18N can only patrol for 7 days of its endurance 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:07pm On May 30, 2015 |
agaugust: Augstus Stop avoiding the question You have said chaff launchers are 100% effective What has made you come to this conclusion? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:08pm On May 30, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:11pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Provide proof that it cannot, you are the one saying PJ-46 anti-missile system does not work, so prove it ! P18N OPV of Nigeria will defeat ALL Southie Valour frigate missiles. Now you don't have 17 Exocets, you have done test firing on your 4 ships as claimed by SAN navy officer @Andrewza and others like @Snydergp of SANDF, @Saengine and others. Means SAN has ONLY 13 Excoet missiles remaining, enough for one and a half Frigates, no wonder you keep only one frigate operational ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:15pm On May 30, 2015 |
agaugust: HMS SHEFFIELD - mortally damaged south east of Falklands by Exocet missile. Burnt out and sank in tow on Monday 10th May ATLANTIC CONVEYOR - mortally damaged north east of Falklands by Exocet missile fired by Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc. Burnt out and later sank in tow. HMS Glamorgan - damaged off Stanley by land-based Exocet missile http://www.naval-history.net/F62-Falklands-British_ships_lost.htm 5 exocet were sold to argentina http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/falkland-islands/45704/bbc-finds-evidence-french-helped-argentines-sink-our-ships HMS Sheffield had chaff launchers 3/5 = 60% hit probability 60% of 17 = 10 10 of our Exocet will hit your one OPV It will be atomized ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:15pm On May 30, 2015 |
agaugust: You said your decoy launcher is 100% effective Prove it |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:16pm On May 30, 2015 |
Patchesagain: I should post proof of where I work and my personal data on Nairaland? How much are you paying me for that? 1 million dollars ? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:16pm On May 30, 2015 |
agaugust: It can with the Drakensburg |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:17pm On May 30, 2015 |
agaugust: I have made no claims about the effectiveness of the Valour class ASM/SSM defence You have said that your decoy launcher will defeat ALL missiles Prove it |
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