lezz:
inspite of all your online ramblings, Pretoria is really scared and uncomfortable. She expresses concerns behind clossed doors and make rash statement to the open press which you block headed Zulus take at face value. Zulu read the BBC polls:Africa debate: Is Nigeria ready to lead the
continent?
23 June 2014 Africa
Nigeria recently overtook South Africa to become
Africa's biggest economy. But the country faces
myriad problems - including a brutal Islamist-led
insurgency, high levels of poverty, and widespread
corruption. Can it now become the continent's
leader? BBC Africa canvassed the views of both
Nigerians and other Africans.
Simi Fajemirokun, Nigerian
Nigeria is already leading Africa by the sheer size
of its population, its emergence as the largest
economy on the continent and its cultural prowess
via its music and film industry across the globe.
History provides further evidence of this in
Nigeria's peacekeeping role in West Africa, which
brought stability to the region, quelling the civil
wars in Sierra Leone and Liberia.
So how well is Nigeria fulfilling its leadership role?
At present, Nigeria's leaders lack a sense of
awareness and purpose and this has led to
confused policies and blunders such as the
kidnapping of the Chibok girls, the passing of an
anti-gay law and too many others to mention.
This poor leadership also overshadows the
amazing things happening behind the scenes, but
as the old gives way to the new, a better Nigeria is
being unveiled.
From technology to fashion to music, Nigeria's
next generation have revealed the open secret -
that Nigeria was destined to lead Africa.
Nigeria's Afrobeats stars
Nigeria facts and figures
Inside Nigeria's secret gay club
Simi Fajemirokun is a management consultant in
Abuja
Simon Allison, South African
N[b]o, is the view from Johannesburg. Economically,
Nigeria's newly inflated gross domestic product
(GDP) means very little here.
We know that these are just re-arranged numbers
on some bureaucrat's spreadsheet, and that our
economy is still more diversified, sustainable and
ultimately attractive to investors.
Our real concern is political. Nigeria and South
Africa are locked in a fierce tussle over who will be
the African superpower, and Nigeria has just
robbed us of our most potent advantage.
South Africa's pre-eminence in continental affairs,
and its membership of institutions such as the
G20 and Brics , as well as a potential permanent
seat on the UN Security Council, rests on its claim
to be Africa's largest economy.
That title now belongs to Nigeria, which is also
Africa's most populous country. So, who should
be represented on these bodies?
South Africa's concerns are compounded by fears,
expressed privately by government officials and
diplomats, that chaotic, corruption-prone Nigeria
is unfit to assume the mantle of continental
leadership.[/b]
Most South Africans would tend to agree: The
perception persists of Nigerians as drug dealers
and 419 scammers, making it hard for Nigeria to
be taken seriously here.

BRICS, is not about who has the biggest economy, it has to do more with trading partners grouping themselves together as a community. Community of countries which are no longer developing countries like Nigeria but are now officially NIC (Newly Industrialised Countries. In the meantime, go away and die with jealousy.

agaugust:


American mercenaries and currently serving soldiers inside South Africa to help cowardly SANDF kill Rhino poachers

See them ridding on South African MRAP as warloads.....saviours of South Africa !


.

Don't ever make noise about some certain four people who did not have any relevance to our army. Four people who visited SA at their own private affairs.


I can see that you have lost the meaning of mercenaries and do not know what does it mean. All PMCs contracted by certain military to help them or train them fight the enermy in the war is called a mercenary. Those four men were never contracted by our government and there is no war in SA. Sorry!!! you have blundered.

lezz:
inspite of all your online ramblings, Pretoria is really scared and uncomfortable. She expresses concerns behind clossed doors and make rash statement to the open press which you block headed Zulus take at face value. Zulu read the BBC polls:Africa debate: Is Nigeria ready to lead the
continent?
23 June 2014 Africa
Nigeria recently overtook South Africa to become
Africa's biggest economy. But the country faces
myriad problems - including a brutal Islamist-led
insurgency, high levels of poverty, and widespread
corruption. Can it now become the continent's
leader? BBC Africa canvassed the views of both
Nigerians and other Africans.
Simi Fajemirokun, Nigerian
Nigeria is already leading Africa by the sheer size
of its population, its emergence as the largest
economy on the continent and its cultural prowess
via its music and film industry across the globe.
History provides further evidence of this in
Nigeria's peacekeeping role in West Africa, which
brought stability to the region, quelling the civil
wars in Sierra Leone and Liberia.
So how well is Nigeria fulfilling its leadership role?
At present, Nigeria's leaders lack a sense of
awareness and purpose and this has led to
confused policies and blunders such as the
kidnapping of the Chibok girls, the passing of an
anti-gay law and too many others to mention.
This poor leadership also overshadows the
amazing things happening behind the scenes, but
as the old gives way to the new, a better Nigeria is
being unveiled.
From technology to fashion to music, Nigeria's
next generation have revealed the open secret -
that Nigeria was destined to lead Africa.
Nigeria's Afrobeats stars
Nigeria facts and figures
Inside Nigeria's secret gay club
Simi Fajemirokun is a management consultant in
Abuja
Simon Allison, South African
N[b]o, is the view from Johannesburg. Economically,
Nigeria's newly inflated gross domestic product
(GDP) means very little here.
We know that these are just re-arranged numbers
on some bureaucrat's spreadsheet, and that our
economy is still more diversified, sustainable and
ultimately attractive to investors.
Our real concern is political. Nigeria and South
Africa are locked in a fierce tussle over who will be
the African superpower, and Nigeria has just
robbed us of our most potent advantage.
South Africa's pre-eminence in continental affairs,
and its membership of institutions such as the
G20 and Brics , as well as a potential permanent
seat on the UN Security Council, rests on its claim
to be Africa's largest economy.
That title now belongs to Nigeria, which is also
Africa's most populous country. So, who should
be represented on these bodies?
South Africa's concerns are compounded by fears,
expressed privately by government officials and
diplomats, that chaotic, corruption-prone Nigeria
is unfit to assume the mantle of continental
leadership.[/b]
Most South Africans would tend to agree: The
perception persists of Nigerians as drug dealers
and 419 scammers, making it hard for Nigeria to
be taken seriously here.

Does that s.tupid also know that there is also so called IBSA apart from BRICS. The IBSA acronym stand for INDIA-BRAZIL-SOUTH AFRICA.


http://www.ibsa-trilateral.org/about-ibsa/ibsa-fund


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBSA_Dialogue_Forum

mzilakazi:



Does that s.stupid also know that there is also so called IBSA beside BRICS. The IBSA acronym stand for INDIA-BRAZIL-SOUTH AFRICA.


http://www.ibsa-trilateral.org/about-ibsa/ibsa-fund

that was when your GDP was relevant as the biggest on the continent.
Now no one gives a jack s.a. that ibsa acronym is a desperate attempt at relevance.

lezz:
that was when your GDP was relevant as the biggest on the continent.
Now no one gives a jack s.a. that ibsa acronym is a desperate attempt at relevance.

You are sick young boy, Both India and Russia are not the largest economies in Asia and Europe respectively. The union has to do more with expanding trade and industry among these countries. Remember, SA is more even industrialised than both India and Brazil, mumu.

What will be the use of keeping one country merely based on the fact that it is the biggest economy but it is not yet fully industrialised? It will be a waste of efforts keeping that country. There is also high expectation that Argentina might follow the suit after having been assessed as the qualifying prospective partner. Argentina does not even have the largest economy, mumu.

FighterPilot:



BRICS, is not about who has the biggest economy, it has to do more with trading partners grouping themselves together as a community. Community of countries which are no longer developing countries like Nigeria but are now officially NIC (Newly Industrialised Countries. In the meantime, go away and die with jealousy.

who says anything about having the biggest economy? It's about economic growth and prospects. And the founder and coined of BRIC and MINT is saying, "hey, S.A economy and infrastructure doesn't make her a member.

I will give you a reality slap if you ever mention NIC to me again. I know you will quote some source on that and give us a link which are at best conceptual.

S.A is a flag bearing developing country. Don't be a stupid Zulu.

mzilakazi:



You are sick young boy, Both India and Russia are not the largest economies in Asia and Europe respectively. The union has to do more with expanding trade and industry among these countries. Remember, SA is more even industrialised than both India and Brazil, mumu.

S.A is more developed than India? you must have been infected with a Zulu witchcraft

India a nuclear power, an IT giant, home to TaTa and Bollywood.

If we sell your mumu on Nairaland , it will go round all its members and guests and still have enough to last you, Odè. Foolish idiot.

lezz:
who says anything about having the biggest economy? It's about economic growth and prospects. And the founder and coined of BRIC and MINT is saying, "hey, S.A economy and infrastructure doesn't make her a member.

I will give you a reality slap if you ever mention NIC to me again. I know you will quote some source on that and give us a link which are at best conceptual.

S.A is a flag bearing developing country. Don't be a stupid Zulu.

The BRICS nation have now transformed from what that guy has been saying into what we will refer to as a union. All countries contribute billions of dollars every year which SA has been doing throughout its membership.

Meanwhile, the MINT still remains a concept and not a reality.

lezz:
that was when your GDP was relevant as the biggest on the continent.
Now no one gives a jack s.a. that ibsa acronym is a desperate attempt at relevance.

Implying GDP size is linked to relevance

Clown

lezz:
who says anything about having the biggest economy? It's about economic growth and prospects. And the founder and coined of BRIC and MINT is saying, "hey, S.A economy and infrastructure doesn't make her a member.

I will give you a reality slap if you ever mention NIC to me again. I know you will quote some source on that and give us a link which are at best conceptual.

S.A is a flag bearing developing country. Don't be a stupid Zulu.

Dude

That man did not found BRICS

He coined the term

But he has nothing to do with the BRICS association

SA Is a member

Nigeria is not

End of story

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MINT COUNTRIES. IT REMAINS A CONCEPT THAT HAD NEVER MATERIALISED. UNTIL ALL THOSE COUNTRIES COME TOGETHER AND ORGANISE THEMSELVES AS SUCH IN A UNION CALLED MINT, IT WILL REMAIN JUST A DREAM.

mzilakazi:


The BRICS nation have now transformed from what that guy has been saying into what we will refer to as a union. All countries contribute billions of dollars every year which SA has been doing throughout its membership.

Meanwhile, the MINT still remains a concept and not a reality.

and international analysts, economic commentators does not recognise you or S.A as a member.

In your foolish attempt to give relevance to S.A , you had the imbecity to discredit the founder and coiner of BRIC, O'Neil.

Desperate zulu.

I have quotes more than 4 sources dated 2015 that indicated S.A isn't a member.

End of story.

THE BRICS DEVELOPMENT BANK WHICH WAS OFFICIALLY AGREED UPON AT SOUTH AFRICA'S FIFTH BRICS SUMMIT IN DURBAN. THE BANK WHICH WILL HELP THE LIKES OF NIGERIA BY OFFERING THEM LOANS AND SETTLE THEIR LOANS IN THE WORLD BANK. THE CONCEPT BROUGHT UPON BY THE MIGHTY AND POWERFUL SOUTH AFRICA.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Development_Bank

Patchesagain:


Dude

That man did not found BRICS

He coined the term

But he has nothing to do with the BRICS association

SA Is a member

Nigeria is not

End of story

the name O'Neil is synonymous with BRICs. Stop being a cow.

You only being disrespectful as an intellectual destitute by disassociating O'Neil from BRIC just to give s.a the relevance she lacks.

agaugust:


I was trying to be nice to you but I see you don't deserve it.

Why should I be debating with you?

We are talking OPV, you posted IPV....are they the same? Dullard white-boy, I never met a white-man so dull till I met you on Nairaland
.

Fvck you obviously cant read can you?

Patchesagain:


Implying GDP size is linked to relevance

Clown

your first reason for disqualification and ultimate expulsion was the size of your GDP and infrastructure.

I HAVE QUOTED AND POSTED THAT SOURCE HERE BEFORE. stop crying.

lezz:
and international analysts, economic commentators does not recognise you or S.A as a member.

In your foolish attempt to give relevance to S.A , you had the imbecity to discredit the founder and coiner of BRIC, O'Neil.

Desperate zulu.

I have quotes more than 4 sources dated 2015 that indicated S.A isn't a member.

End of story.

Who cares? What authority do they have on BRICS by deciding who becomes the member of BRICS and who is not? Next time we will form another union with other countries and they will come running again to tell us that we are not members anymore. They are just more against SA than membership.

lezz:
the name O'Neil is synonymous with BRICs. Stop being a cow.

You only being disrespectful as an intellectual destitute by disassociating O'Neil from BRIC just to give s.a the relevance she lacks.

BRICS is an association of nations

O'Neil has nothing to do with the organization - apart from coining the term to describe the NIC's

The NIC's then formed the group known as BRICS themselves. O'Neil had no role and has no role, and BRICS does not operate under any external guidelines apart from those that they have set themselves.

End of story

Russia and China identified RSA as a worthy member and chose her

Russia and China discarded Nigeria

Fact

That is all

lezz:
your first reason for disqualification and ultimate expulsion was the size of your GDP and infrastructure.

I HAVE QUOTED AND POSTED THAT SOURCE HERE BEFORE. stop crying.

South Africa has been neither disqualified or expelled

There is no intention amongst the BRICS nations to disqualify or expell south Africa

You have provided no citations to suggest this

Patchesagain:


South Africa has been neither disqualified or expelled

There is no intention amongst the BRICS nations to disqualify or expell south Africa

You have provided no citations to suggest this

Undoubtedly jealousy is what makes the young boy to be so miserable. Shame!!! Nigeria should start looking up to SA as a model and start to join other countries as well in a union.

Patchesagain:


South Africa has been neither disqualified or expelled

There is no intention amongst the BRICS nations to disqualify or expell south Africa

You have provided no citations to suggest this

you have rendered yourself citation-unworthy.

South Africa isn't a member . period. I have quoted and posted the links here yesterday. Whether you agree or not doesn't count .

The spotlight have left south Africa for real.

Your barking and permanent squatting on Nairaland won't change the fact.

lezz:
you have rendered yourself citation-unworthy.

South Africa isn't a member . period. I have quoted and posted the links here yesterday. Whether you agree or not doesn't count .

The spotlight have left south Africa for real.

Your barking and permanent squatting on Nairaland won't change the fact.

Hahahhahaha

Nothing to back your claims?

when did south Africa get kicked out?

Patchesagain:


Experience is passed down through training

South Africa is vastly more experienced than the Nigerian military in that sense

how mumu? By taking pictures

lionel4power:
how mumu? By taking pictures

I don't answerbsilly questions

Patchesagain:


BRICS is an association of nations

O'Neil has nothing to do with the organization - apart from coining the term to describe the NIC's

The NIC's then formed the group known as BRICS themselves. O'Neil had no role and has no role, and BRICS does not operate under any external guidelines apart from those that they have set themselves.

End of story

Russia and China identified RSA as a worthy member and chose her

Russia and China discarded Nigeria

Fact

That is all

south Africa sold morality for Yuan.

When China invited South Africa in 2011 to join BRIC almost 10 years after it was formed, it was in exchange of your denying the Dalai Lama, the famous China critic visa into S.A FACT!!!

Well after you sold your morality for yuan and international validation ( south Africa, and her citizen are really inferior in psyche and in selfworth) you got kicked out again.

International analysts, institutions, economists still refer to the organisation as BRICs not BRICS. EVEN ONEIL THE FOUNDER DOESN'T RECOGNISE SA

Deal with the truth for once in your life.

lezz:
south Africa sold morality for Yuan.

[s]When China invited South Africa in 2011 to join BRIC almost 10 years after it was formed, it was in exchange of your denying the Dalai Lama, the famous China critic visa into S.A FACT!!!

Well after you sold your morality for yuan and international validation ( south Africa, and her citizen are really inferior in psyche and in selfworth) you got kicked out again.[/s]

International analysts, institutions, economists still refer to the organisation as BRICs not BRICS. EVEN ONEIL THE FOUNDER DOESN'T RECOGNISE SA

Deal with the truth for once in your life.

1. O'neil did not found BRICS
2. When was South Africa kicked out?

Lol, the fact that a major international bloc chose us and sidelined you seems to cause you such massive emotional harm that you are forced to litterally make sh1t up

lezz:
south Africa sold morality for Yuan.

When China invited South Africa in 2011 to join BRIC almost 10 years after it was formed, it was in exchange of your denying the Dalai Lama, the famous China critic visa into S.A FACT!!!

Well after you sold your morality for yuan and international validation ( south Africa, and her citizen are really inferior in psyche and in selfworth) you got kicked out again.

International analysts, institutions, economists still refer to the organisation as BRICs not BRICS. EVEN ONEIL THE FOUNDER DOESN'T RECOGNISE SA

Deal with the truth for once in your life.

Hey Lezz

suck on this:

"When I created the acronym, I had not expected that a political club of the leaders of the BRIC countries would be formed as a result." - O'neil January 4, 2011

You see? O'neil has nothing to do with BRICS.

Patchesagain:


I will post citations when you post citations for decoy effectiveness and Gripen ground search radar

No need, I already posted the citation for you since you are a fraud and liar, source directly from South African navy official website :

Economic speed of Warrior boat is NOT defined anywhere !

Range, miles: 1,500 at 30 knot; 3,600+ at economical speed

http://navy.mil.za/equipment/patrol.htm

What is the economic speed in knots ?

The only way to compare range of two ships is to speed them to same level of knots !

What is the knots that give Warrior class a range of 3,600 miles? How many knots is that ? 10 knots or what ?

If P18N ranges 3,000 miles at 14 knots, it will travel further at lower speed, say 10 knots.

Your argument of out-ranging the P18N is therefore ruined !


.

Patchesagain:


Those units do not operate on private land.

Private men on Private land.

Rhino's arent citizens - they are wildlife

Even if they are insects being protected, South African homeland is invaded by American soldiers and mercenaries firing guns and killing those that SANDF + Rangers were unable to kill.

Your mercenary importation is legendary, SADF used 60,000 Angolan and 1,000 European mercenaries to fight Bush war.

Now it's American fire team of mercenaries on South African soil....or is that soil Zambian soil ? It's yours, Soweto nation
.

agaugust:


No need, I already posted the citation for you since you are a fraud and liar, source directly from South African navy official website :

Economic speed of Warrior boat is NOT defined anywhere !

Range, miles: 1,500 at 30 knot; 3,600+ at economical speed

http://navy.mil.za/equipment/patrol.htm

What is the economic speed in knots ?

The only way to compare range of two ships is to speed them to same level of knots !

What is the knots that give Warrior class a range of 3,600 miles? How many knots is that ? 10 knots or what ?

If P18N ranges 3,000 miles at 14 knots, it will travel further at lower speed, say 10 knots.

Your argument of out-ranging the P18N is therefore ruined !


.

Not wasting my time with silly arguments

I have shown that Warrior class outranges your OPV

Deal with it

agaugust:


Even if they are insects being protected, South African homeland is invaded by American soldiers and mercenaries firing guns and killing those that SANDF + Rangers were unable to kill.

Your mercenary importation is legendary, SADF used 60,000 Angolan and 1,000 European mercenaries to fight Bush war.

Now it's American fire team of mercenaries on South African soil....or is that soil Zambian soil ? It's yours, Soweto nation
.

Private men operating in private capacity on private land

There are lots of security guards in South Africa, some happened to be american

Patchesagain:


Hey Lezz

suck on this:

"When I created the acronym, I had not expected that a political club of the leaders of the BRIC countries would be formed as a result." - O'neil January 4, 2011

You see? O'neil has nothing to do with BRICS.

hey, kill yourself with this from the guardian and economist in the UK:Even within Africa, South Africa's growth – wracked by high unemployment and industrial unrest – is sluggish compared to many of its neighbours, and its crown as the continent's biggest economy is under threat from Nigeria.

A year ago Jim O'Neill, the global chairman of Goldman Sachs Asset Management who coined the term "Bric", told South Africa's Mail & Guardian newspaper: "It's just wrong. South Africa doesn't belong in Brics. South Africa has too small an economy. There are not many similarities with the other four countries in terms of the numbers. In fact, South Africa's inclusion has somewhat weakened the group's power. . One southie Zulu was even comparing India to south Africa. This article was written in 2103 before Nigeria bleeped you from the economic top spot.