abbey621:


Once again I disagree with you! If success to you is about making money and losing your self respect in the process then yes Asians make the most money but not as much as Jews. I worked in HR for a couple of years and have friends with many years of experience in EEO and affirmative action programs, they can tell you first hand the many loopholes which allows companies to pay female or minority workers less. Your reasons for paying them less are unjustified and unconstitutional. On a personal level, I've worked for a company in which I was the most qualified in my department, with the highest work ethic and years of experience but due to being black and a foreign black to make things worse, I was often overlooked for middle management positions. Racism is real here in America, only an ignorant person would deny that and the more people like you try to undermine its severity, the more unjustly people of color or other minorities are treated. No one is asking for a handout or a free pass just equal opportunity. Finally you seem to be out of touch with reality on the issues women face in the workplace, juggling between home and work, trying to balance health issues with societal values. The reason we have fewer women CEOs than men is because women must give up a whole lot to be successful at that position while men have their wives to rely on to pick up the pieces when they are not around. Most female CEOs either don't have a family or live a very complicated lifestyle and if that's what must happen in order to be successful then we are in big trouble as a society!

5minsmadness:


Do you knw ow why your posts are so confusing at times?
It's because there are so many holes in your argument, one doesn't even know which one to start from

I am very sure the many stories of women suffering at the hands of their husbands are the ones you read on nairaland. Thank God family section women don't make up 1% of the population so all those complaints u see on nairaland every other day don't count

There are many more stories of women living happily with thier husbands, ask your married nairaland feminists about thier marriages if you think it's not true. Everyday they keep confessing how awesome thier husbands are and since they make up less than 1% it is just the tip of the iceberg

Marriage is a lovely Union and can be quite joyous and filled with happiness. All you have to do is look out for the right person. Of course such happy couples won't complain. It's only the ones in trouble that come on nairaland to seek help and most of those stories are fabricated anyway for sensationalism and popularity.

Kindly point out one of my posts towards the female gender that has been hateful . That is, assuming you know the difference between disagreement and hate. You are the one who comes online day in and day out to shout how wicked and self centered men are and with the same breath vie for homosexuality/love between two men

FrancisTony:
I wholeheartedly agree with her.

Anyone else couldn't have said it better.

She's spot on.

abbey621:


Once again I disagree with you! If success to you is about making money and losing your self respect in the process then yes Asians make the most money but not as much as Jews. I worked in HR for a couple of years and have friends with many years of experience in EEO and affirmative action programs, they can tell you first hand the many loopholes which allows companies to pay female or minority workers less. Your reasons for paying them less are unjustified and unconstitutional. On a personal level, I've worked for a company in which I was the most qualified in my department, with the highest work ethic and years of experience but due to being black and a foreign black to make things worse, I was often overlooked for middle management positions. Racism is real here in America, only an ignorant person would deny that and the more people like you try to undermine its severity, the more unjustly people of color or other minorities are treated. No one is asking for a handout or a free pass just equal opportunity. Finally you seem to be out of touch with reality on the issues women face in the workplace, juggling between home and work, trying to balance health issues with societal values. The reason we have fewer women CEOs than men is because women must give up a whole lot to be successful at that position while men have their wives to rely on to pick up the pieces when they are not around. Most female CEOs either don't have a family or live a very complicated lifestyle and if that's what must happen in order to be successful then we are in big trouble as a society!

5minsmadness:

But what has a German got to do with a Nigerian female being a worthy Nigerian president

5minsmadness:


I stopped when I went to the University. No time. Very exhilarating work.
What has that got to do with anything?

Chinom:



Yes, I know it is an extreme situation. I was using it to buttress the point that there are situations in which men are singled out just for BEING A MAN. That terrorist or kidnapper never asked who was more educated, richer or more beautiful. No, we are chosen based purely on our gender.

Same thing happens in most military and para-military formations. I just think that women should be happy the way things are now. There is absolutely no need for any form of feminist movement anno 2015. We are getting along just fine as it is. Most women in Islamic societies, as well as rural communities are just comfortable with their lives as it is. It's all these Western educated, city women that are trying to create an imaginary problem.

missterious:


If you could drop farming, why can't girls drop cooking?

iPopAlomo:


How many women have been forced to resign/sued/sacked for a sexist comments made to a guy or another woman...?

All these woman wrapper men on nairaland sef...

MissMakas:
LOOOOOL.

This boy yaff cray finish
Missterious, are you sure you can handle this guy? As I see him, he can kill you ooo.

innervoice:


This is an extreme situation and I don't think anyone will think of gender equality under these circumstances. If a terrorist decides to shoot you because you are the man, then it is not a woman's fault but the terrorist's decision. And under these circumstances the terrorist will probably ra.pe the woman after you have been shot. Bottom line is that both, men and women, have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your life, the woman loses her husband, possibly the father of her kids, and also her physical integrity. Her life will never be the same again hence she has also lost her old life and may never recover again.



Yes men bear a lot. The sooner women understand it, the better our lives will become. However, men must also understand what women go through.

Now explain please what kind of protection women get in their every day lives that you get only 10% of.

missclasssy:


And where did you get this idea from?
A book I presume.

Look at you talking about God's plan like you have an idea what it really is.

smileysmiles:


Isn't it contradictory that women shouldn't do some things because they are women,yet they want political offices in Nigeria because they are women and should be given the opportunity..

Not because they are women; because they are humans who want to serve.. and it shouldnt be an "opportunity" makes it sound like its a "favor" of some sorts to a 2nd class citizen.

5minsmadness:

I stopped farming cos I am now an established ****** and it's more lucrative and I won't have time to do it when am married.
What's going to be my wife's excuse?










[size=5pt]We are derailing but cos of your beauty and intelligence I don't mind![/size]

missterious:


Lol. I'm used to it now.

innervoice:


Woman wrapper is a cheap tactic. Just sayin'

How many times in your life have you felt uncomfortable because of s:exist comments?

emzila:

sorry to disappoint you, i didnt get it from any book but from my mental spreadsheet. Notwithstanding, thanks for recognising my intellect. Regarding God's plan, i will be very much pleased if u tell me that which u think i do not know

innervoice:


Woman wrapper is a cheap tactic. Just sayin'

How many times in your life have you felt uncomfortable because of s:exist comments?

Joavid:
@ missterious, what wave of feminism do you belong to?

MissMakas:
You're used to it?
By being used to it, how do you mean?

innervoice:


Woman wrapper is a cheap tactic. Just sayin'

How many times in your life have you felt uncomfortable because of s:exist comments?

missterious:
She could give the exact same reasons you just gave.

Chinom:



Ol' boy, your sense of equality is warped. The fact that men don't feel uncomfortable with s.exist comments from women only serves to confirm that we are not equal. If we were equal or rather if society considers us equal, then s.exist comments and sexual harassment should carry the same weight irrespective of the gender.

If a woman pinches my butt, I laugh it off. If I pinch a woman's butt, I could go to jail for that. Maybe, this answers your question about how women are more protected by the society. I know the laws are there, but try convincing a Judge that a women raped you. You will be considered a clown. People will just laugh at you. Societal perceptions affects the ways laws are implemented. And this favours women big time.

5minsmadness:

And how does her work cook the food?

FrancisTony:
Missterious, are you not tired of the senseless back and forth?

Biko, live your life as it pleases you.

craziebone:


the fact is...nature makes it in such a way that men are disposable, that's why even though Almajiri is synonymous with boys, the society is more likely to talk about the girl child that was handed in marriage the socity would rather build government girl's college. At the last count, there are 10 million almajiri boys out there.

The issue of homelessness among men is there. What about crime rate? That is still there. It is ingrained in the psyche of the human being to see men as a threat and that's why most extrajudicial killings are almost 100percent men! The society doesn't seem to take note of male issues very much if anything, it is more interested in what he is not doing right.

You are the one who is seeing the advantages and disadvantages. The likes of Chimamanda, who are responsible for shaping policies around the world, do not see this. That's why she talks only of a male privilege.

And we are saying no, there are some 'privileges' we cannot do anything about and this also goes for women. The fact that the human being feels a natural sympathy for women, is a privilege.

This all important privilege is the reason feminism took could achieve things in the first place. If it took feminism 50 years to get its message across, it will take the MRA 200 years to achieve half that feat. Men already understand what women have to go through and that's why there is a ministery of women affairs, there is more research to find cure to cancer that affects women even though those cancers kill fewer women than postrate cancer kills men. I have also mentioned the government girls college. What about the preferential treatment given to women when it comes to boarding the school shuttle? What about parents giving more pocket money to their female children than they do their males? What about the more visiting days parents attend in girls boarding houses than they attend in boys?

missterious:

I'm too stubborn.

missterious:


You work all day, your wife works all day too (unless she's a housewife). Why should she come back home to do all the chores while you watch TV with a beer in your hand?

Velocitron:
One thing I haaaaaaattte more than anything is this victim culture women and blacks tend to have nowadays! As long as you're a rich, educated woman living in a first world country, you're more privileged than most people so you should be the last person whining about 'oppression'. So what if someone said something rude to you? So that's the definition of 'oppressed'?

No one is holding you back, no 'glass-ceiling', no pi 'wage-gap' whatever. We women are even lucky that we can use our looks or sex to get by. So stop the whining, please.