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I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism / Girls night out discussions / 11-yr-Old Girl Gets Pregnant For Five Boys (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 4:05pm On May 31, 2015 |
moca:Moca please help me tell them - maybe they'll listen to an experienced woman like yourself. Even if there is no shame or stigma associated with single-motherhood, the reality remains that; 1. It won't change their circumstances - as I've stated, they are more likely to live in poverty. 2. The outcomes for the children will still be on the whole poorer than for kids in two parent - and hence likely more prosperous - homes 3. Most importantly the missing input from fathers will exacerbate things - meaning more criminality in boys and promiscuity in girls. 4. Men will still prefer women who are not single mothers. I'm also sure they'll take heed if you advise no push-ups before marriage ! How family, hope well. I would have asked after your condition, but some may discern an ulterior motive Ekú weekend TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 4:06pm On May 31, 2015 |
pickabeau1:Read that Charlize Theron is the real star of this film - Max is portrayed as the sidekick - i.e. the film has been given a mythical female superhero. TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 4:07pm On May 31, 2015 |
TV01: Interesting.. have u seen the original 3 films Im halfway through part 1 |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 31, 2015 |
moca: How can we deceive all these girls that are wiser than our grandmothers?
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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 4:26pm On May 31, 2015 |
TV01:Read a review along those lines also, which begs the question, why not give the movie a different title? Feminism and historical revisionism go hand-in-hand. Cc: Pickabeau1 3 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 4:36pm On May 31, 2015 |
Timbuktou: Well I guess I have to see the new film Will watch part 2 tonight |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 4:57pm On May 31, 2015 |
Kimoni:Deny? It was in situ before I came along and will be extant long after I'm gone. And as I explained in an earlier post to moca, even if we remove any notion of shame or stigma - even if we valorize it - it will not change their circumstance or situations. Neither will it change mens "preferences" in the first instance - although it is possible some men could be "socialised" to express a preference for SM's. Kimoni:I have never in my time on NL, said or championed anything different. Now contrast this with the "what is good for the goose is good for the gander" brigade, who predicate every discussion on "equality", which they don't actually appear to understand or rightly apply. Kimoni:Single-motherhood does not ambush anyone, neither is it an airborne or otherwise infectious disease . It happens as a result of choices, decision and actions. These can be moderated, and properly done so, it should be an unfortunate exception, not the fast trending norm we now see. Most things in life are exactly what they seem In all likelihood, neither of your two candidates would meet threshold requirements. Even if they were the last two women on earth, I still have a third option. I demonstrate value and live my worth ! Kimoni:Per desperation, I have said nothing. many unmarried women - and men - are desperate. That is to do with their own internal dynamic and personal circumstances. As for eligibility, there is a reality on ground - take a straw poll of posters on this thread if you please. If SM-H has no bearing, why do you see guys running after them like kilode? If it makes no difference, shouldn't that be same for all girls? Plus you presume that they are chasing them for marriage? Kimoni:Sounds pretty much like my set-up. And isn't too dissimilar to most. Men working hard to priest, provide and protect their families. One reason why the feminsit type equality doesn't wash is the dynamic between male and female; Your DH and my wifes DH , have to pull out the stops to deliver. No excuses. It's hard, but they see it as their role and responsibility. If they fall short they know it and carry that burden - even if no one says a thing. If they deliver they are proud and satisfied - duty done. If the roles are reversed, the woman feels resentment at having to carry the man. As women typically need to look up to their men - consider them high (absolutely) or higher (relatively) status - respect and attraction is prone to fail. As much as we like to shout "equality", no woman wants a man she has to carry. There is "customary discrimination" along the whole continuum of male/female relationships. Even in it's crudest form, it's for the common good, for societal flourishing. Feminisms attempt to equalise things at every point is doomed to failure as I pointed out above. And in any event, feminism is now more about privilege without consequence or attendant responsibility for women - and at the expense of men. I'll tell you this for free - at any point in history and in any place over time, I'd much [refer to have been an averagely attractive and accomplished female than a poor man. For a man there is zero - and less than zero - privilege in poverty. Kimoni:Where feminism is about equal opportunities and access for women fine, but it's long past that and is quite frankly descending into absurdity. Kimoni:Please post results ! TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 5:02pm On May 31, 2015 |
pickabeau1:Is it in two parts? Na Nollywood production . Abajo! Abeg, review it here - book/film reviews were always part of our mandate here. TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 5:10pm On May 31, 2015 |
TV01: Just finished part 1 Max is a highway cop in the world of the future where biker gangs run riot They kill his partner He loses interest in the job and proceeds on a vacation with his wife and child On a stop along the vacation to get spare tires, she drives ahead to get icecream for her child, the wife runs into the biker gang who want to r@pe her She hits the gang leader in the groin and runs off to get max the gang track them to her aunts place and she is forced to run off with her aunt and child the car stops along the way and she makes off on foot She is sadly run over and the child dies with her on ICU Max gets Mad ("Mad max" and goes on a revenge spree driving them off the road About to start part 2 |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 6:23pm On May 31, 2015 |
moca: raincoats have side effects too. many of the chics are allergic to rubber. pickabeau1: i was in my primary school when i saw the original version. mel gibson versus nightrider. good old memories...... |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:21pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar:Coogar,repent! Reeeepeeent!!! Raincoat don't have effect. Infact,zip up! See baa, it takes willpower to say no to an already Erm before u especially if u have a thing for the guy. Pls u guys should help the ladies too. How many have u fathered and denied? Say the truth o abi withdrawal dey work for u? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:24pm On May 31, 2015 |
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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:38pm On May 31, 2015 |
P TV01:Ask away! No shaking But I know u just asked. I'm ok. Just suffering the normal thing one in my condition pass tru. Hope u all are fine? The reason why I always beg ladies to be careful. It's very few single mothers that r lucky. Most r bitter. The truth is,its never easy even with ur money. One family had to send their daughter to convent. I don't know what happened to the baby but I know the dad was trying to protect the daughter from societal stigmatization.it was very close family friend that knew the gal was preggie. Naija no be obodo oyibo. Some of the hatred r transfered to the children so they may term all men bad cos their dad didn't marry their mum. Then again,its the trend now,almost all our stars have babymamas. Gals pls if not for ur future,at least bc of the innocent child that will suffer in the future,try and resist an errect rod infront of u without raincoat. Just once and goal can be scored. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogaluta(f): 7:46pm On May 31, 2015 |
apolonius: 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 8:31pm On May 31, 2015 |
Bro Tveeeeee happy Sunday o! Hope you are all doing good. This single mother thing, Ive seen both sides Ive seen women who "enjoy" their status. Especially the ones who took their partners to the cleaners and are getting heaps of child support and the family home. They go out and have sex when they feel like, (usually with other womens husbands) and generally just do what they want, when they want. . . usually the owambe "yellow pawpaw" ladies at parties every week. There are also some who are milking the system for all its worth. I personally know of one. A man in her life will put a stop to her benefits so she is "happy" to pop kids but with no resident man. These women think they are enjoying now, but it is later on that they will realise how stupid they are. Of course there are others living in poverty, stigmatised, lonely, unhappy and crave to be in a happy and fulfilled relationship. One of the many things that marriage offers is companionship. A widow/widower will tell you how much they miss this. 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 9:54pm On May 31, 2015 |
moca: withdrawal toh badt! 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 10:17pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar: The night rider was mad too Such a psycho I can imagine how many joy riders n bikers were inspired by this film Did u hear of d Waco disaster |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 10:21pm On May 31, 2015 |
pickabeau1: i still remember the scene when max's wife went to get ice cream & nightrider intercepted her and licked from the cone. she kicked him in the groin & ran into the car. then the bikers started squealing like rhesus monkies - i knew it was over for the babe right there.
david koresh? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 10:39pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar: Yes...you know it was over for her Did you know they assaulted the couple sexually in the beginning that ran off See how they destroyed their car Nope..a biker gang shootout |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 10:45pm On May 31, 2015 |
pickabeau1: never heard of it.... the only waco story i know was the david koresh guy that had one strange church in his yard & defied the law. they had to send a SWAT team to his place. himself & his church members opened fire on the SWAT team & america did what they know how to do best. they killed women & children in that church. you should watch the documentary - it was shocking! |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 10:47pm On May 31, 2015 |
naijababe: Sure, we know when you are pressing the buttons. It is always overlooked because of your application of wisdom. But if it is confrontational, the MAN in the Man will roar.. @Moca, Long time, how you dey and family? I hope the condition is good news after nine months? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 10:49pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar: This was just three weeks ago I know of koresh...mad man Will look for the documentary |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 10:51pm On May 31, 2015 |
pickabeau1: i will check it out. there have been so much shootings in america lately i have lost track. it's a 3rd world country. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 10:59pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar: The bikers gang shooting spree was crazy and it was during daylight not night. Think about 9 guys died from it. The good news in it is that only the gang members died no innocent soul was lost despite it was close to shopping centre. Like the NRA do say, guns don't kill people, only people kill people... |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 11:25pm On May 31, 2015 |
bellong:We will know after nine months na So start counting Baad guy! |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 11:26pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar:Eew,God,why did u give me this type of bro I will take his case to tbjoshua. Surely,only me can't do this alone |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 11:30pm On May 31, 2015 |
coogar: Lol |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 11:57pm On May 31, 2015 |
moca: withdrawal is as effective as raincoat! |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by apolonius(m): 12:35am On Jun 01, 2015 |
coogaluta: Her royal excellency,Dame Aluta C,where are you? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogaluta(f): 12:38am On Jun 01, 2015 |
apolonius: Right here, my Lord! |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by apolonius(m): 12:55am On Jun 01, 2015 |
coogaluta: And here she is to the shame of R-Roy! It's been ages dear.How is thy planet? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 1:04am On Jun 01, 2015 |
You need to check everything about your babe o even before you met her See...
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