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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by naturalwaves: 4:11am On Jun 01, 2015
Our defence line was too slow
Our goal keeper was calamitous
Our midfielders didn't string enough passes together, none of the midfielders was mobile (Yahaya even tried a bit before he was subbed).
Musa should never overlap if there is no one to cover for him.
If we have another lb, he should be used in place of Mustapha, he was beaten so easily.

Awoniyi should learn how to beat the offside trap and time his runs well, poor finishings from him as well.
Isaac succes played well but didn't get enough balls to feed him
We lost to a tactically superior side...The brazilians knew that our strength lies in fast attacks, so, they made sure we never had that and since there was no space for fast attacks, our midfield was supposed to exchange enough passes and take the ball to them but rather, we resorted into floating high balls knowing fully well that they have very tall players. Manu Garba's undoing was that he didn't have a second tactical approach incase our main tactic fails and that is why I like MOU, he could switch tactics as much as he wants. It was basically the Brazilian coach's intelligence and the lethal boots of the Brazillians that won the match.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by EagleScribes: 4:12am On Jun 01, 2015
mrham03:
well the tactics work in the first half but in the second half the brazilian coach made some alterations, he told the their ryt back to limit his runs forward and made their midfielders cut supplies to naija's attackers. Manu garba should have changed the formation to 4-4-2. Maybe its time one striker sits on the bench.

They are far ahead of us in terms of technical, tactical and coaching abilities. Awoniyi must be benched by next match.

Did you notice the offside count too?

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 4:13am On Jun 01, 2015
Icon4s:


I have always been around. Jst that most times i observe and nt comment.
This is the night we have been waiting for. People have been predicting score lines like: Nig 4-0 Brazil, 4-1, 3-0 & the rest.
Personally, i dnt know y bt i dnt rate these boys as high as most peeps here do.
After this night's game i will now know how to place them.
I have watched so many U20 WC and have seen most teams dat won thé previous U17 faulter. I am nt a prophet of doom o. I wish Nigeria wins d cup bt i dnt rate them as favorites. At best for now I c them as Semi final material. After d game against Brazil, I will know whether to improve thé rating or reduce it.

The Words of a Sage.

I Bow in Respect!

Salut!

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by drpialabi: 4:15am On Jun 01, 2015
EagleScribes:


You are right. But many of us did not see the tactical error coming at all. If you followed my posts, I gave my reservations immediately I saw the line up.

This was not the tactics we expected. We were undone by the coach

Manu caused it all. Tactics and substitutions were wrong.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mrham03(m): 4:17am On Jun 01, 2015
EagleScribes:


They are far ahead of us in terms of technical, tactical and coaching abilities. Awoniyi must be benches by next match
their technical team has been in the business longer. Manu should find the best partnership upfront in the next game, be it awoniyi+isaac or isaac+ yahaya. One must be benched and he should work on the midfielders. They lack stamina
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by drpialabi: 4:18am On Jun 01, 2015
Badosqi:
Thank God this is the first. Now we are back to reality, no more disneyland fairytale.
U20 world cup na another level entirely. Mehn, this brazilians that were supposed to be weak completely outclassed and outplayed us in the second half. No response at all from our team. Keeper contributed a lot to this defeat.

The brazilians really surprised me. I have read so many predictions but these guys showed us why they are 5 times champion.

But no shaking. We must win our next 2 matches and we are back on track.

You are right jare. Make i Just console myself first. Its better to lose the first match to brazil and win the final against them. Abi she he no dey happen for football.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 4:18am On Jun 01, 2015
AIG07:
i was about telling d guy next to me to shift cos my friend de there. Then u came in. All rooms for this Eagles don full o. Everyone is awake
My broda see as we lose dis very important 1st match, but I know we ll bounce back to pick maximum points in our next 2 matches
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by EagleScribes: 4:22am On Jun 01, 2015
mrham03:
their technical team has been in the business longer. Manu should find the best partnership upfront in the next game, be it awoniyi+isaac or isaac+ yahaya. One must be benched and he should work on the midfielders. They lack stamina

Here's my submission:

Enaholo should be benched

4-3-3 formation with success flanked by Yahaya and Iheanacho

Sokari, Nwakali and a DM fighter should be used

There should always be a plan B. The field was so small and our boys could not run or express themselves
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by P0intBlank(m): 4:24am On Jun 01, 2015
P0intBlank:
The question is no longer are the Flying Eagles good but how good are they? Where do they rank compared to other flying eagles' teams of d past. Have they flattered to deceive or are they the real deal? I don't read too much into friendly results. The reason being friendlies are what they are - friendlies. Hostilities begin June 1. For me that's d litmus test. Beat Brazil, d jinx is broken and d cup is there for taken. See previous results against South American opposition to see why I'm particular about this match.
Mexico 83 Brazil 3-0 Nigeria (Group)
USSR 85 Brazil 2-0 Nigeria (Semis)
Chile 87 Brazil 4-0 Nigeria (Group)
Nigeria 99. Paraguay 2-1 Nigeria (Group)
Holland 2005 Brazil 0-0 Nigeria (Group)
Holland 2005 Argentina 2-1 Nigeria (Finals)
Canada 2007 Chile 4-0 Nigeria (Quarters)
Egypt 2009 Venezuela 1-0 Nigeria (Group)
Turkey 2013 Uruguay 2-1 Nigeria (2nd Rnd)

We've never beaten them in a competitive match at U-20 or at d Senior level. We've lost all 5 matches against them in d world cup. Why do u think we struggle against South American opposition?

I had my reservations. We can add
New Zealand 2015 Brazil 4-2 Nigeria to d list
On d positive side at least we scored. Now it's time to know what stuff these guys are made of. We know they are not used to losing. How will they react? Will they implode? Champions pick themselves up.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mrham03(m): 4:27am On Jun 01, 2015
EagleScribes:


Here's my submission:

Enaholo should be benched

4-3-3 formation with success flanked by Yahaya and Iheanacho

Sokari, Nwakali and a DM fighter should be used

There should always be a plan B. The field was so small and our boys could not run or express themselves
thats a gud line up.....i think he should also change the left back or ask the midfielders to cover him. The attackers must track back to help the team in defence.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 4:30am On Jun 01, 2015
EagleScribes:


Here's my submission:

Enaholo should be benched

4-3-3 formation with success flanked by Yahaya and Iheanacho

Sokari, Nwakali and a DM fighter should be used

There should always be a plan B. The field was so small and our boys could not run or express themselves

I disagree.

this side should remain as itis for the next two games.

In hindsight though, Awoniyi should remain on the bench for now. Success must take his place!
Sokari should come in and take up Ihenacho's role.
Ihenacho could stay on the right while Yahaya or Moses simon should claim the left side of the pitch.

That's all.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:37am On Jun 01, 2015
kannymoore:


I disagree.

this side should remain as itis for the next two games.

In hindsight though, Awoniyi should remain on the bench for now. Success must take his place!
Sokari should come in and take up Ihenacho's role.
Ihenacho could stay on the right while Yahaya or Moses simon should claim the left side of the pitch.

That's all.

I do not see the difference in what he said and what you posted.

We should pick a point man. Drop one, Awoniyi seems the culprit. Then, flank Nacho and Yahaya or Moses.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Napoleon55(m): 4:41am On Jun 01, 2015
Give thanks to God in every situation,good or bad,at times like this u'll know who is mature in life,let's still support n pray for the FE
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:45am On Jun 01, 2015
First of all, thumbs up to the boys for turning up and fighting.

I see people talking about Coach Manu Garba and his crew being poor in this game. What I feel happened was the sudden in flux of new players. I think it hurt our cohesiveness and understanding. They looked good in trainingtraining but they have not played long together as a team when they met Brazil.

Also, Nacho has trained for almost two years as a striker, the sudden change definitely affected his game. Harsh but I do not think tactics is the problem. If they play together for a while, their understanding will pick up.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 4:46am On Jun 01, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


I do not see the difference in what he said and what you posted.

We should pick a point man. Drop one, Awoniyi seems the culprit. Then, flank Nacho and Yahaya or Moses.

Read through again

He said that the entire central midfield should be changed plus the goalkeeper. I don't subscib to that at all!

Enaholo is far better than Alampasu @ present. He made some good saves though he could have done better with the piledriver goal by the super-sub and that freak goal that went through his legs.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Napoleon55(m): 4:48am On Jun 01, 2015
Excessive hype and over expectations affected the team badly,I hope they recover on time from this loss. They can still do well
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mackfame: 4:50am On Jun 01, 2015
if we must advance at this WC, defense and Mid field must be stronger. Iheanacho needs to play 7, we missed his curling balls and goalie needs to lower his stress, stage fright finished him today, same thing happened to alampasu at the u17 WC. We can still qualify no shaking. although we lost but much better team than Baba eagles at the last WC in Brazil
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:51am On Jun 01, 2015
I trust Coach Manu Garba and his crew's decision but I think there should be an immediate adjustment for the next training.

Nacho is now a finisher. It is time to reduce the luggage. Awoniyi must seat on the bench and come in as a Sub. I still see Awoniyi becoming a star of the tournament but Success needs all the attention. Nacho trained as a finisher for almost two years with some of the best coaches in the game.

I do not see us getting the best of Nacho if he is not attacking. Success, Nacho and Yahaya (or Moses) should lead the line. Sokari should return behind the attack. Let a natural creative midfielder who trains and plays professionally in that role create for the attack.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Leon2036(m): 4:52am On Jun 01, 2015
Tbaba hope you don see why I say if no akinjide no fullbacks should overlap One thing I don't like about we Nigerians is that, we always bow to sentiment, if u noticed for a while now I have not posted on this thread, becos I was scared sumtin like this would happen, ever since I saw that possible line up, playing two top nine at same time will always have an effect on the midfield, and safari have u seen that playing in the AYC is a lot different with playing in the WYC? I'm not that suprised though cos I know sumtin like this might happen manu fall hands this time I swear.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 4:53am On Jun 01, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to the boys for turning up and fighting.

I see people talking about Coach Manu Garba and his crew being poor in this game. What I feel happened was the sudden in flux of new players. I think it hurt our cohesiveness and understanding. They looked good in trainingtraining but they have not played long together as a team when they met Brazil.

Also, Nacho has trained for almost two years as a striker, the sudden change definitely affected his game. Harsh but I do not think tactics is the problem. If they play together for a while, their understanding will pick up.

Wrong again.

Isaac success playspredominantly as a centreforward for the team. In today's match, despite the fact that he was the last to arrive camp and he was played off position on the left side of the foward line, he capped his performance with a goal!
Iheanacho has no excuses in that respect!

Also,That "sudden Flux of new players" won us the Caf U-20 trophy and two of the latest players were actually involved in the two goals scored.
Don't forget, iheanacho's strike also hit the crossbar at one point in the game.

Whereas the bulk of the old players didn't really rise to the expectation as we'd hoped.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mackfame: 4:54am On Jun 01, 2015
I no go hear word for office now, my Brazilian colleagues go yab mi die.. sad
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:55am On Jun 01, 2015
kannymoore:


Read through again

He said that the entire central midfield should be changed plus the goalkeeper. I don't subscib to that at all!

Enaholo is far better than Alampasu @ present. He made some good saves though he could have done better with the piledriver goal by the super-sub and that freak goal that went through his legs.

You agreed that Sokari should return. The only disagreement is Nwakali. Aside from that, the DM fighter could be any of the IIfeanyis.

I still do not see much difference.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 4:58am On Jun 01, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


You agreed that Sokari should return. The only disagreement is Nwakali. Aside from that, the DM fighter could be any of the Ifeanyis.

I still do not see much difference.

And benching the goalkeeper nko? He's not much of a difference ba?
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:59am On Jun 01, 2015
Na wa. What is wrong. This is the World Cup and not the CAF Championship. Note, the time the team spent together in camp preparing for the AYC and the time this team trained with the new players for this game. It is impossible for the scenarios to be the same.

You can not tell me Messi is better utilised as a midfielder than a striker. Nacho trained as a finisher for two years. No doubt he can play in midfield but you can not get the player we saw with the EDS if he plays in midfield and not attack.


kannymoore:


Wrong again.

Isaac success playspredominantly as a centreforward for the team. In today's match, despite the fact that he was the last to arrive camp and he was played off position on the left side of the foward line, he capped his performance with a goal!
Iheanacho has no excuses in that respect!

Also,That "sudden Flux of new players" won us the Caf U-20 trophy and two of the latest players were actually involved in the two goals scored.
Don't forget, iheanacho's strike also hit the crossbar at one point in the game.

Whereas the bulk of the old players didn't really rise to the expectation as we'd hoped.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:06am On Jun 01, 2015
kannymoore:


And benching the goalkeeper nko? He's not much of a difference ba?

Two players changed in a squad is not much difference.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:15am On Jun 01, 2015
You can switch tactics as much as you want. If your players do not turn up, you can lose.

Remember, Tottenham put five goals past Chelsea this season. The players did not turn up and no tactical switches would help.

I believe we will meet this Brazilian side again in this tournament and beat them. At last, it was errors from the keeper and lack of alertness of the defence that caused us the goals.

Awoniyi's misses also made us lose.


naturalwaves:
Our defence line was too slow
Our goal keeper was calamitous
Our midfielders didn't string enough passes together, none of the midfielders was mobile (Yahaya even tried a bit before he was subbed).
Musa should never overlap if there is no one to cover for him.
If we have another lb, he should be used in place of Mustapha, he was beaten so easily.

Awoniyi should learn how to beat the offside trap and time his runs well, poor finishings from him as well.
Isaac succes played well but didn't get enough balls to feed him
We lost to a tactically superior side...The brazilians knew that our strength lies in fast attacks, so, they made sure we never had that and since there was no space for fast attacks, our midfield was supposed to exchange enough passes and take the ball to them but rather, we resorted into floating high balls knowing fully well that they have very tall players. Manu Garba's undoing was that he didn't have a second tactical approach incase our main tactic fails and that is why I like MOU, he could switch tactics as much as he wants. It was basically the Brazilian coach's intelligence and the lethal boots of the Brazillians that won the match.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by lardy96(m): 5:34am On Jun 01, 2015
must this people humble us every time?well I'm just a little disappointed in the defence and I don't trust enaholo he lacks confidence and spills every ball that comes his way...if we encounter Brazil or any top opposition again let's try to shore up the defence
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by naturalwaves: 5:42am On Jun 01, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
You can switch tactics as much as you want. If your players do not turn up, you can lose.

Remember, Tottenham put five goals past Chelsea this season. The players did not turn up and no tactical switches would help.

I believe we will meet this Brazilian side again in this tournament and beat them. At last, it was errors from the keeper and lack of alertness of the defence that caused us the goals.

Awoniyi's misses also made us lose.


Well......hopefully. Alfa was missed in that midfield cos he holds the ball well and has at least 80% pass accuracy. The Okon of the under-17 too was far better than our left back.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Emmzyst: 5:46am On Jun 01, 2015
If was the the coach for today,
I may still start the line up because i thought of attacking brazil. But when hostilities were not in my favor, at second half, i would remove Awoniyi, bring in Sokari to the mid field, Success play 9.
If it still did not work, I bring in Moses to play 11 while I take out Ifeanyi.
Truth be told Success, Moses and Kelechi have played explosive club football. They would have been able to manage the game with a strong mid field.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Nobody: 6:11am On Jun 01, 2015
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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 6:14am On Jun 01, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
Na wa. What is wrong. This is the World Cup and not the CAF Championship. Note, the time the team spent together in camp preparing for the AYC and the time this team trained with the new players for this game. It is impossible for the scenarios to be the same.
[b]
You can not tell me Messi is better utilised as a midfielder than a striker. Nacho trained as a finisher for two years. No doubt he can play in midfield but you can not get the player we saw with the EDS if he plays in midfield and not attack.
[/b]


Nacho trained as wetin for two years wetin! undecided undecided

Abeg spare me that boh! grin

Did kelechi play as a top striker during mancity's pre-season?!

Mehhnnn..

How many matches has he played for the EDS sef?..dem reach 12?

Oh!

So you don forget say him dey injured for the better part of the season bah?

When iheanacho played a cameo role during the qualifiers, did he play as a striker?

Is it not because Man City EDS were short of quality in the Striker Department that's why they decided to take that gamble and it paid off handsomely?

Bros, it had nothing to do with the length of training. The Brazilians were better than us today. End of Story.


Maybe if we meet again in the latter stages of the competition, we might have our pound of revenge but for today?

We were truly beaten.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 6:19am On Jun 01, 2015
naturalwaves:

Well......hopefully. Alfa was missed in that midfield cos he holds the ball well and has at least 80% pass accuracy. The Okon of the under-17 too was far better than our left back.

Alfa?

Hold the ball well against the brazilians?

Bros u sure say u watch the same game i watch so?!

You're saying that those Brazilians who were thwacking everyone in their path...including Naija players who are twice Alfa's weight...will suddenly open legs for Alfa to pass through their "Toros" shebi??!



Nna guy..



You funny o!

grin grin grin grin !!!

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