Patchesagain:


So we can take a walk down memory lane to revisit one of your greatest humiliations?

Link posted cites tenders posted by Armscor - official source

Link does NOT cite any tender on Amscor, it says Denel, and no tender.

Show us the tender and the guns named as super rapid.

You want us to start bringing doubtful sources on this forum, if you do so, I will retaliate.

I am NOT humiliated, the source is there....Army Guide website, you can go and humiliate them in America.

You want us to bring all kinds of sources and claims here? I am ready, tit for tat !

SAN has NO SINGLE 76mm super rapid, you have old school 76mm compact.

Super rapid came to market in 1988, South Africa bought 76mm guns in 1977.

How did you buy in 1977, a gun that does NOT exist in 1977 ?

http://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Oto-Melara-76mm-compact-super-rapid.htm

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agaugust:


Link does NOT cite any tender on Amscor, it says Denel, and no tender.

Show us the tender and the guns named as super rapid.

You want us to start bringing doubtful sources on this forum, if you do so, I will retaliate.

I am NOT humiliated, the source is there....Army Guide website, you can go and humiliate them in America.

You want us to bring all kinds of sources and claims here? I am ready, tit for tat !

SAN has NO SINGLE 76mm super rapid, you have old school 76mm compact.

Super rapid came to market in 1988, South Africa bought 76mm guns in 1977.

How did you buy in 1977, a gun that does NOT exist in 1977 ?

http://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Oto-Melara-76mm-compact-super-rapid.htm

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The South African Navy has placed orders with Oto Melara for the procurement of additional 76/62mm Super Rapid medium-calibre automatic gun mounting spares.

The 76/62mm Oto Melera cannon is used by the navy on its Valour Class frigate and Warrior Class offshore patrol vessels.
The dual-purpose gun system is capable of launching a 6kg projectile up to 8,000m at a rate of 120 rounds a minute and can engage surface and air targets.

The navy has also placed requested for 'expertise' related to the gun and a training course, Defenceweb reported the Armscor Bulletin System as saying.
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/news126453.html

he South African Navy has awarded a contract to Denel Land Systems for the maintenance of its guns and to provide associated support services.

The navy artillery includes a 76mm OTOMelera, a 76mm/62 super rapid medium-calibre automatic cannon, a Denel Land Systems GA35 35mm dual purpose automatic cannon and a SAN mk1 20mm automatic cannon.
The 76mm cannon is capable of hurling a 6kg projectile up to 8,000m at a rate of 120 rounds a minute, though the maximum range is 18,400m at 45°.

The GA35 twin-gun system can destroy attacking helicopters, fixed-wing aircraft, and surface-to-surface missiles against surface vessels and shore targets, in symmetrical and asymmetrical combat.

The SAN mk1 20mm automatic cannon is a standard lightweight weapon aboard the River Class inshore patrol vessels / mine countermeasures vessel, the Warrior Class offshore patrol vessel and Valour Class frigates.

The R10m contract was awarded in addition to the R2 304 622 award to EDH (SA) of Stellenbosch to support a 76mm muzzle velocity radar system
.http://www.naval-technology.com/news/news99763.html


Official Denel and Armscor tenders and bulletins

Deal with it

agaugust:


Nigerian army will soon be training the rest of the world's military, AU, NATO, Asia, Israel, etc.

Egypt has chosen Nigerian army as the second strongest in Africa.

This thread/topic's question has been answered by finally.

1. Egypt

2. Nigeria

3. The rest
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Somalian president just left Abuja and with a representation of east African countries and they have requested for Nigeria's support in aiding their fight against terrorism.

agaugust:


Your navy says NO, NO super rapid gun, South African navy is FINAL AUTHORITY on it's own weapons.

SAN officially says you have 76mm Compact old school gun on your under-powered warships

OTO Melara 3 in 76mm/62 compact ; 2 Oerlikon 20 mm GAM-BO1; 2 - 12,7 mm MGs

http://navy.mil.za/equipment/patrol.htm

One OTOBreda 76mm/62 compact . One Denel DPG 35mm (twin).

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6524

76mm super rapid naval gun.

agaugust:


Your foolish question got a foolish answer.

If you ask me what SUBMARINE is, you expect me to start writing definition for you? No google on your laptop? Mumu

CRAM: Counter rocket, artillery and mortar.

What is CRAM munition?

The Israelis use a missile! The Germans and Americans will soon introduce lasers!

What is CRAM munition?



What is counter rocket, artillery and mortar ammunition?

agaugust:


Making the jet invisible to sea surface search radar? Odenson

Radar is not magic.

To avoid detection jets fly at low altitude.

agaugust:


Show us technical proof that your SAN Exocet has different ways of guidance apart from fire and forget mode.
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Late seeker activation.

Target updates!

agaugust:


Tell us where the 35mm gun is mounted....on top of the ship's radar mast, hanging in the air? Olodo
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Above the hanger.

Its performance envelope is similar to weapons like the Phalanx, Goalkeeper etc



Be afraid of the ZA!

You'll eat humble pie and wash it down with palm wine

MikeCZAR:


76mm super rapid naval gun.

Patchesagain:


The 76/62mm Oto Melera cannon is used by the navy on its Valour Class frigate and Warrior Class offshore patrol vessels.

The South African Navy has placed orders with Oto Melara for the procurement of additional 76/62mm Super Rapid medium-calibre automatic gun mounting spares.

Deal with it

Sure i will deal with it and teach you about your own navy

76mm super rapid has straight line hedges. PHOTO 1

76mm compact has rounded edges. PHOTO 2

Valour frigate has the old 1977 gun...76mm compact with rounded hedges PHOTO 3

South Africa took obsolete guns purchased in 1977 guns from dump yard and renovated the ancient 76mm to put on new Valour frigates
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agaugust:


Exocet is technically a fire and forget missile, it has no wire guidance.

Show us proof that your Exocet can be fired by one ship and guided by another, show me proof of that type of data-link configured by South African navy for your Exocets specifically.

Show technical proof that SAN Lynx has been configured to guide your Exocet.

Show me a source that says ship fired Exocet are guided by helicopters, you are actually quoting Nigerian Otomat missile capability

Late seeker activation.

Target update!

agaugust:


Nigerian army will soon be training the rest of the world's military, AU, NATO, Asia, Israel, etc.

Egypt has chosen Nigerian army as the second strongest in Africa.

This thread/topic's question has been answered by finally.

1. Egypt

2. Nigeria.

3. The rest
.

The palm wine that you are drinking is supposed to be very strong. South Africans trained Nigerian federal armed forces and any military that can be reduced into seeing itself taking lessons from Nigerian military would be a danger to itself.

Your military just yesterday were battered blue-black by just few BH gunmen and they fled away leaving the whole town at the destructive hands of BH.

Your military is a joke bra, a real circus indeed.

agaugust:


Should I post a citation that says Nigeria has Bofors FH-77 B05 L52 artillery with 43 km range ?

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html

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Remember the 73km hitter G6-L52 from the same source?

MikeCZAR:
Late seeker activation.

Target update!

Those are normal in anti-ship missiles, nothing special. Exocet was still defeated by decoy in Falkland war
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AugustineAgain:




Sure i will deal with it and teach you about your own navy

76mm super rapid has straight line hedges. PHOTO 1

76mm compact has rounded edges. PHOTO 2

Valour frigate has the old 1977 gun...76mm compact with rounded hedges PHOTO 3

South Africa took obsolete guns purchased in 1977 guns from dump yard and renovated the ancient 76mm to put on new Valour frigates
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Look at him?

AugustineAgain:




Sure i will deal with it and teach you about your own navy

76mm super rapid has straight line hedges. PHOTO 1

76mm compact has rounded edges. PHOTO 2

Valour frigate has the old 1977 gun...76mm compact with rounded hedges PHOTO 3

South Africa took obsolete guns purchased in 1977 guns from dump yard and renovated the ancient 76mm to put on new Valour frigates
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Citations show we have the Super Rapid

Your opinion is, as usual, irrelevant

AugustineAgain:


Those are normal in anti-ship missiles, nothing special. Exocet was still defeated by decoy in Falkland war
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Exocet is a better ASM than Otomat. A lot much better than Otomat in every way. If you have depth knowledge about ASMs you would agree with me.

Patchesagain:



Citations show we have the Super Rapid

Your opinion is, as usual, irrelevant

The photos of South African navy warships are relevant, it's not my opinion, it's your own navy's evidence

# Defeated By Own Navy Photos.

A source says SAAF has air to ground missiles, but do you have them? NO NO NO !

ALL Photos show you have navy guns 76mm compact with round shape.

You want to be a fraud...okay cool...live in a world of lies, it's the South African way.....

Below is photo of 76mm compact old 1977 gun on South African valour frigate

# Demolished On June 1st
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lezz:
http://jideojong..com/2011/08/appraisal-of-decade-of-gsm-revolution.html?m=1

When I call you a Zulu, I mean you are not only utterly stu.pid, you are as pathetically stup.id as the sound of that word (Zulu). Here is even a south African source which knows econet, now airtel was the first GSM to launch our GSM service in Nigeria.

This is a typical move of south Africans; you twist facts, you misrepresent figures and I dare say you create your own web pages as sources and post them here as citations.
http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2001/08082001-econet_first_in_race_to_launch_nigeria.htm. SHAME ON YOU, CRIMINAL.

I am not interested at who first launched GSM, I am interested at the first network provider in Nigeria and that's MTN. The SA telecommunication company is the first to kick start operations in Nigeria. Mumu.

Still, Econet is a company that was run in South Africa's back rooms. Although it was established in Zim by Masiyiwa it was since run at SA back room until Masiyiwa acquired South Africa's full citizenship in the year 2000. You are owned by us. Mumu.

The econet just only claims to be the first to launch GSM and MTN also equally claims the title, so who is the holder of the title? Both Southern Africans.

AugustineAgain:


The photos of South African navy warships are relevant, it's not my opinion, it's your own navy's evidence

# Defeated By Own Navy Photos.

A source says SAAF has air to ground missiles, but do you have them? NO NO NO !

ALL Photos show you have navy guns 76mm compact with round shape.

You want to be a fraud...okay cool...live in a world of lies, it's the South African way.....

Below is photo of 76mm compact old 1977 gun on South African valour frigate

# Demolished On June 1st
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Cause of the casing? Those differ from navy to navy some are of stealthy design.

The guns in some only comes out during firing and slides back into the casing.

AugustineAgain:


Those are normal in anti-ship missiles, nothing special. Exocet was still defeated by decoy in Falkland war
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what is "normal anti-ship" missile?

Which chaff? Specially designed with French help?

A lot has changed since the Falklands warm

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Nigerian OPV has superior AK-176 gun firepower, we will sink ALL Mandela's over-rated blue water ships in one day !

Everybody compare a modern Super Rapid photo below with the 1977 obsolete round edge shapes 76mm compact gun on South Africa's 'modern 2006' frigate

76mm super rapid gun below with straight edge shapes...South Africa does NOT have it o ! Proved !

http://www.otomelara.it/products-services/naval-systems/76-62-super-rapid
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AugustineAgain:




Sure i will deal with it and teach you about your own navy

76mm super rapid has straight line hedges. PHOTO 1

76mm compact has rounded edges. PHOTO 2

Valour frigate has the old 1977 gun...76mm compact with rounded hedges PHOTO 3

South Africa took obsolete guns purchased in 1977 guns from dump yard and renovated the ancient 76mm to put on new Valour frigates
.

You just contradicted yourself by posting a picture showing 32 Umkhonto capsules on a Valour class frigate.

mzilakazi:



I am not interested at who first launched GSM, I am interested at the first network provider in Nigeria and that's MTN. The SA telecommunication company is the first to kick start operations in Nigeria. Mumu.

nigger, Zulu, are you so daft, this mentally challenged? When econet GSM launched services in Nigeria , it means it was the first to roll out service. What is with you south Africans and stupi.duty, you can't part ways?

I posted those links for posting sakes. I bought econet line when GSM was launched in Nigeria back then. This isn't even debatable.

MikeCZAR:
You just contradicted yourself by posting a picture showing 32 Umkhonto capsules on a Valour class frigate.

Contradiction? We are talking about guns, you are diverting attention to missiles. Is a missile a gun? Fool. Stay on topic, eat humble pies !

Who cares about Umkhonto missiles half empty silos ? Same way you have 32 Exocet missile launchers with only about 13 missiles

Soweto navy parades empty missile containers on warships

Meanwhile, we are talking about the 76mm gun super rapid that SAN does not have, I demolished all sources posted by Southies !

Your own navy's photos proves you wrong and proves me right

Deal with your 1977 purchased guns removed from scrap yard and repaired for brand new Valour frigates !

Your Soweto nation could not even afford modern AK-176 naval 76mm guns that Nigeria puts on OPV. LOL.

We are more modern than you are....Old school 1977 guns mounted on 2006 warship, no wonder NNS Centenary will sink SAS Amatola

.

AugustineAgain:


The photos of South African navy warships are relevant, it's not my opinion, it's your own navy's evidence

# Defeated By Own Navy Photos.

A source says SAAF has air to ground missiles, but do you have them? NO NO NO !

ALL Photos show you have navy guns 76mm compact with round shape.

You want to be a fraud...okay cool...live in a world of lies, it's the South African way.....

Below is photo of 76mm compact old 1977 gun on South African valour frigate

# Demolished On June 1st
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lezz:
nigger, Zulu, are you so daft, this mentally challenged? When econet GSM launched services in Nigeria , it means it was the first to roll out service. What is with you south Africans and stupi.duty, you can't part ways?

I posted those links for posting sakes. I bought econet line when GSM was launched in Nigeria back then. This isn't even debatable.

ECONET still was not Airtel and there is still no clear distinction as to who first lauched GSM in Nigeria between MTN and ECONET, both form Southern Africa. For your Info, Econet was also a company that was run from SA back yards. Mumu.

AugustineAgain:
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Nigerian OPV has superior AK-176 gun firepower, we will sink ALL Mandela's over-rated blue water ships in one day !

Everybody compare a modern Super Rapid photo below with the 1977 obsolete round edge shapes 76mm compact gun on South Africa's 'modern 2006' frigate

76mm super rapid gun below with straight edge shapes...South Africa does NOT have it o ! Proved !

http://www.otomelara.it/products-services/naval-systems/76-62-super-rapid
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According to your thinking.


The Abrams doesn't use the same 120mm gun as the Leopard 2 cause it is "housed" in a different turret.

The Bionix IFV doesn't use the same 30mm cannon
as the Rosomak because different turret.

The Rooivalk doesn't use the same 20mm cannon as the Ratel-20 because different turrets.



Be afraid of the ZA!

MikeCZAR:
According to your thinking.


The Abrams doesn't use the same 120mm gun as the Leopard 2 cause they're "housed" in different turrets.

The Bionix IFV doesn't use the same 30mm cannon
as the Rosomak cause they're in different turrets.

The Rooivalk doesn't use the same 20mm cannon as the Ratel-20 cause different turrets.



Be afraid of the ZA!

We are talking ships, he has changed to talking tanks and helicopters.

#Super Frustrated

# Totally Humiliated

SAN 76mm compact guns of 1977
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AugustineAgain:


Those are normal in anti-ship missiles, nothing special. Exocet was still defeated by decoy in Falkland war
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Liar

Patchesagain:


Liar

Prove me wrong, try it.

AugustineAgain:


Contradiction? We are talking about guns, you are diverting attention to missiles. Is a missile a gun? Fool. Stay on topic, eat humble pies !

Who cares about Umkhonto missiles half empty silos ? Same way you have 32 Exocet missile launchers with only about 13 missiles

Soweto navy parades empty missile containers on warships

Meanwhile, we are talking about the 76mm gun super rapid that SAN does not have, I demolished all sources posted by Southies !

Your own navy's photos proves you wrong and proves me right

Deal with your 1977 purchased guns removed from scrap yard and repaired for brand new Valour frigates !

Your Soweto nation could not even afford modern AK-176 naval 76mm guns that Nigeria puts on OPV. LOL.

We are more modern than you are....Old school 1977 guns mounted on 2006 warship, no wonder NNS Centenary will sink SAS Amatola

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32 Capsules of missiles loaded.

You again seem to forget the AK-176 is older than the OtoBreda Compact and Super rapid 76mm naval guns.