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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:06pm On Jun 01, 2015
mzilakazi:


Did I say, PDP is the first political party to rule Nigeria? All that I have said was that PDP is the first party to rule democratic Nigeria. Got it!!!
take it. When I said we have been a democracy , I mean Nigeria has been practising democracy when S.A was still in apartheid :
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Abubakar Tafawa Balewa
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The Right Honourable
Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa
P.C.

Prime Minister of Nigeria
In office
1 October 1960 – 15 January 1966
President Nnamdi Azikiwe
Preceded by Post established
Succeeded by Post abolished
Personal details
Born 1912
Bauchi, Northern Nigeria Protectorate
Died 15 January 1966 (aged 53)
near Lagos, Nigeria
Political party Northern People's Congress
Spouse(s) Four wives - Jummai, Umma, Zainab and Laraba
Alma mater University of London
Religion Islam
Alhaji Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, KBE (December 1912 – 15 January 1966) was a Nigerian politician, and the only prime minister of an independent Nigeria.

Early life and career
From self-government to independenceEdit

Balewa administrationEdit
Balewa entered the government in 1952 as Minister of Works, and later served as Minister of Transport. In 1957, he was elected Chief Minister, forming a coalition government between the NPC and the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC), led by Nnamdi Azikiwe. He retained the post as Prime Minister when Nigeria gained independence in 1960, and was reelected in 1964.

Prior to Nigeria's independence, a constitutional conference in 1954 had adopted a regional political framework for the country, with all regions given a considerable amount of political freedom. The three regions then were composed of diverse cultural groups. The premiers and some prominent leaders of the regions later took on a policy of guiding their regions against political encroachment from other regional leaders. Later on, this political environment influenced the Balewa administration. His term in office was turbulent, with regional factionalism constantly threatening his government.

However, as Prime Minister of Nigeria, he played important roles in the continent's formative indigenous rule. He was an important leader in the formation of the Organisation of African Unity and creating a cooperative relationship with French speaking African countries. He was also instrumental in negotiations between Moise Tshombe and the Congolese authorities during the Congo Crisis of 1960–1964. He led a vocal protest against the Sharpeville Massacre of 1960 and also entered into an alliance with Commonwealth ministers who wanted South Africa to leave the Commonwealth in 1961. However, a treason charge and conviction against one of the western region's leaders, Obafemi Awolowo, led to protest and condemnation from many of his supporters. The 1965 election in the region later produced violent protests. Rioting and violence were soon synchronous with what was perceived as inordinate political encroachment and an over-exuberant election outcome for Awolowo's western opponents.

As Prime Minister of Nigeria, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, from 1960 to 1961, doubled as Foreign Affairs advocate of Nigeria. In 1961, the Balewa government created an official Foreign Affairs and Commonwealth Relations ministerial position in favour of Jaja Wachuku who became, from 1961 to 1965, the first substantive Nigerian Minister of Foreign Affairs and Commonwealth Relations, later called External Affairs.

Balewa's Ministers
OFFICE NAME TERM
Prime Minister Abubakar Tafawa Balewa 1957–1966
Foreign Affairs Jaja Wachuku 1961–1965
Transportation Raymond Njoku 1957–1960
Education Aja Nwachukwu 1957–1960
Commerce K. O. Mbadiwe 1957–1960
Communications Samuel Ladoke Akintola 1957–1960
Finance Festus Okotie-Eboh 1957–1960
Internal Affairs J. M. Johnson 1957–1960
Information Kola Balogun 1957–1960
Health Ayo Rosiji 1957–1960
Labor ....... .......
Mines Muhammadu Ribadu 1957–1960
Honours
Overthrow
See also
References
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by LeSudAfricaine: 8:14pm On Jun 01, 2015
mzilakazi:
Of all hundred countries that helped ANC abroad Nigeria is the only one that makes more noise than everyone else. Instead of Tanzania, Zambia, Algeria and others that housed ANC MK members, making so much noise is always Nigeria that screams in the ears of SA. That's one thing that ANC hates about Nigeria because they always want to remain relevant in the struggle of apartheid forgetting that ANC got help from the world.
True Talk
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:16pm On Jun 01, 2015
mzilakazi:


Did I say, PDP is the first political party to rule Nigeria?Shagari’s great-grandfather founded the village from which the family took its name. Shagari was educated at Kaduna College and taught school briefly. As one of the few northerners to show an interest in national politics, he ran for office in 1954 and was elected to the federal House of Representatives. Thereafter he held several posts and was a member of every administration after Nigeria’s independence in 1960. After a military coup in 1966 ended civilian government, he retired to his hometown.

Gen. Yakubu Gowon appointed him federal commissioner for economic development in 1971, a position he took over from Chief Obafemi Awolowo. He faced Awolowo in 1979 and narrowly defeated him in presidential elections after the military government led by Olusegun Obasanjo allowed a return to civilian rule.

Nigeria was badly shaken by the international economic crisis of the early 1980s. Shagari took several steps to try to strengthen the economy—cutting the budget, calling in the International Monetary Fund, and expelling two million aliens (mostly Ghanaians) in 1983. He won the bitterly contested presidential elections in 1983, but the state of the economy and corruption in his administration worsened, and on Dec. 31, 1983, a military coup led by Maj. Gen. Muhammad Buhari toppled the government, and Shagari was arrested. Shagari was cleared of personal corruption charges and released from detention in 1986 but was banned from participation in Nigerian politics for life. All that I have said was that PDP is the first party to rule democratic Nigeria. Got it!!!
the NPC and The NCNC are the first party to rule Nigeria.

Here is Nigeria second Democratic election and president 1979 to 183 before military overthrew it :
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:18pm On Jun 01, 2015
lezz:
take it. When I said we have been a democracy , I mean Nigeria has been practising democracy when S.A was still in apartheid :
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Abubakar Tafawa Balewa
EditWatch this page
This article is about the person. For the local government area, see Tafawa Balewa, Nigeria.
The Right Honourable
Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa
P.C.

Prime Minister of Nigeria
In office
1 October 1960 – 15 January 1966
President Nnamdi Azikiwe
Preceded by Post established
Succeeded by Post abolished
Personal details
Born 1912
Bauchi, Northern Nigeria Protectorate
Died 15 January 1966 (aged 53)
near Lagos, Nigeria
Political party Northern People's Congress
Spouse(s) Four wives - Jummai, Umma, Zainab and Laraba
Alma mater University of London
Religion Islam
Alhaji Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, KBE (December 1912 – 15 January 1966) was a Nigerian politician, and the only prime minister of an independent Nigeria.

Early life and career
From self-government to independenceEdit

Balewa administrationEdit
Balewa entered the government in 1952 as Minister of Works, and later served as Minister of Transport. In 1957, he was elected Chief Minister, forming a coalition government between the NPC and the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC), led by Nnamdi Azikiwe. He retained the post as Prime Minister when Nigeria gained independence in 1960, and was reelected in 1964.

Prior to Nigeria's independence, a constitutional conference in 1954 had adopted a regional political framework for the country, with all regions given a considerable amount of political freedom. The three regions then were composed of diverse cultural groups. The premiers and some prominent leaders of the regions later took on a policy of guiding their regions against political encroachment from other regional leaders. Later on, this political environment influenced the Balewa administration. His term in office was turbulent, with regional factionalism constantly threatening his government.

However, as Prime Minister of Nigeria, he played important roles in the continent's formative indigenous rule. He was an important leader in the formation of the Organisation of African Unity and creating a cooperative relationship with French speaking African countries. He was also instrumental in negotiations between Moise Tshombe and the Congolese authorities during the Congo Crisis of 1960–1964. He led a vocal protest against the Sharpeville Massacre of 1960 and also entered into an alliance with Commonwealth ministers who wanted South Africa to leave the Commonwealth in 1961. However, a treason charge and conviction against one of the western region's leaders, Obafemi Awolowo, led to protest and condemnation from many of his supporters. The 1965 election in the region later produced violent protests. Rioting and violence were soon synchronous with what was perceived as inordinate political encroachment and an over-exuberant election outcome for Awolowo's western opponents.

As Prime Minister of Nigeria, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, from 1960 to 1961, doubled as Foreign Affairs advocate of Nigeria. In 1961, the Balewa government created an official Foreign Affairs and Commonwealth Relations ministerial position in favour of Jaja Wachuku who became, from 1961 to 1965, the first substantive Nigerian Minister of Foreign Affairs and Commonwealth Relations, later called External Affairs.

Balewa's Ministers
OFFICE NAME TERM
Prime Minister Abubakar Tafawa Balewa 1957–1966
Foreign Affairs Jaja Wachuku 1961–1965
Transportation Raymond Njoku 1957–1960
Education Aja Nwachukwu 1957–1960
Commerce K. O. Mbadiwe 1957–1960
Communications Samuel Ladoke Akintola 1957–1960
Finance Festus Okotie-Eboh 1957–1960
Internal Affairs J. M. Johnson 1957–1960
Information Kola Balogun 1957–1960
Health Ayo Rosiji 1957–1960
Labor ....... .......
Mines Muhammadu Ribadu 1957–1960
Honours
Overthrow
See also
References
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Do you mean psedo democratic Nigeria that listened more to military than the people. Psedo democracy that was marred by many coups in between. It was just a psedo democracy not yet fully fledged.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:20pm On Jun 01, 2015
lezz:
the NPC and The NCNC are the first party to rule Nigeria.

Here is Nigeria second Democratic election and president 1979 to 183 before military overthrew it :

The first Nigeria to be recognised as democracy is the one led by PDP. Finish and klaar. End of story.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:26pm On Jun 01, 2015
lezz:
Zulu, we have been a democracy from 1960, when you were still hoping from tree to tree.
lol killed

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:32pm On Jun 01, 2015
DO YOU KNOW THAT SA HELD ELECTIONS EVERY AFTER FOUR YEARS EVER SINCE ITS INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITAIN IN 1910 WITH ONLY FEW EDUCATED BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS PASSING THEIR VOTES? IN ORDER FOR BLACK MAN TO HAVE INFRANCHISEMENT YOU HAD TO BE EDUCATED. YET SA WAS NOT DEMOCRATIC.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:34pm On Jun 01, 2015
mzilakazi:


The first Nigeria to be recognised as democracy is the one led by PDP. Finish and klaar. End of story.
cheesy that's the one you know. It is either south Africans were too busy worrying about apartheid to notice what was going on in the rest of Africa or you are actually a kid who only got to hear of the PDP from 1999. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:38pm On Jun 01, 2015
mzilakazi:
DO YOU KNOW THAT SA HELD ELECTIONS EVERY AFTER FOUR YEARS EVER SINCE ITS INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITAIN IN 1910 WITH ONLY FEW EDUCATED BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS PASSING THEIR VOTES? IN ORDER FOR BLACK MAN TO HAVE INFRANCHISEMENT YOU HAD TO BE EDUCATED. YET SA WAS NOT DEMOCRATIC.
S.A wasn't a democracy but an apartheid regime.

The public was never having franchise except the whites.

In Nigeria every Nigerian reaching the adult suffrage voted and everyone in Nigeria is eligible to contest election.

Again not so in south Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:19pm On Jun 01, 2015
B-Cat Military concludes Pathfinder Unmanned Ground Vehicle development

"B-Cat Military has finished development testing of its one hundred per cent South African designed and built Pathfinder unmanned ground vehicle (UGV), which is being offered to the South African National Defence Force (SANDF)."


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39352:b-cat-military-concludes-pathfinder-unmanned-ground-vehicle-development&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jun 01, 2015
Patchesagain:


LOL

South Korea?

Hahahhahaha - I guess you need to read up on the Korean war

I guess you also need to go and read up on the effectiveness of the ROK forces in Veitnam

I guess you also forgot that the ROK possesses one of the most capable and potent militaries in the world

Columbia?

Last I checked Farc was on its knees

Saudi?

You mean the most powerful military in the region?

Kobani?

Last I checked the seige was broken!!

I like how you forgot to mention the Jdf, Israel and West German militaries

I ask again - how is the poor performance of the Iraqi army the fault of the Americans?

American COIN has failed? Point to me one country that the US military has been deployed in and that has been over-run by Insurgents

Just one



- The South-Koreans were having their a$ses handed to them on a platter by the North before the Americans, Chinese and Soviets joined the fight. This is a statistical fact.


- LOL grin grin grin, you want to talk about the 50+ years of Colombian trouncing by the Farc. While America was busy beating it's chest on T.V and the successes it was having on narco criminals, the FARC was busy grabbing additional territory and Colombia was occupied in reaching the zenith as the world's largest coka producer.


- Buahahahahahahaha........ the over-pampered sunnis who need Senegalese soldiers to do their fighting for them. I hope you do know, 4000 Saudi soldiers fled their barracks amid houthi retaliation. With many reports putting that figure as high as 10,000 men in recent weeks.


- over 1000 strike sorties on a tiny town cannot be considered as a victory you delusional sad nitwit!


- why don't you tell us who trained the Iraqi army? They fled, living behind over 2300 armoured Humvess grin grin. That's more armoured vehicles than the combined total of all armoured vehicles in the Southern African region.


- IRAQ!!!



Don't be naive, American COIN strategy has failed, you're only probably to stup1d to acknowledge it.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:13pm On Jun 01, 2015
Africa’s Most Important Gathering But The Most IMPORTANT MAN Won't Be There




[b]May 31, 2015 Quartz Africa

When the World Economic Forum’s Africa summit opens in Cape Town on Wednesday, the center of attention will not be Jacob Zuma, president of the host nation, or any of the politicians, philanthropists, or business leaders among the 1,250 delegates—from 75 countries—attending the continent’s biggest business and economics gathering of the great and the good. The man on everyone’s mind will not even be there: Muhammadu Buhari, the newly sworn-in president of Nigeria.

Sure, there will be much discussion on the continent’s challenges and opportunities. There will also be much deal-making on the sidelines: business leaders say the regional WEF gatherings are more conducive to clinching deals than the annual conclave in Davos, which is better suited to higher-altitude deliberations on global issues.




But it’s a fair bet that the majority of those gathered in the Cape Town International Convention Center will have their eyes turned toward Aso Rock, the presidential palace in Abuja. As Africa’s biggest country—and, as of last year, its largest economy—Nigeria’s fate has an enormous bearing on practically everyone at the WEF event.
[/b]



The former military dictator has barely returned to power—this time, with a popular mandate—but neither his country nor his continent can afford to give him much time to settle in. His swearing-in last week was attended by a palpable sense of expectation, mixed in with a driving urgency, across Africa.

As an economic forum, it is inevitable that much of the conversation among the WEF delegates will be about Nigeria’s economy.



Cape Town will be an opportunity to parse Buhari’s policy pronouncements and his appointments to key government positions.
But no discussion about Nigeria can long evade the topic of Boko Haram, the terrorist group that has bedeviled the country—and its neighbors—for much of the past year. Here too, Buhari has aroused optimism by reorganizing the command structure of his security forces, and pledging to step up the campaign against the terrorists. (Boko Haram has welcomed the new president with fresh violence in Maiduguri.)
But it will take more than military operations to subdue the terrorists.



How to achieve that will be the subject of a WEF panel I will be moderating, entitled, “Silencing the Gun.” Among my panelists is Hafsat Abiola-Costello, a Nigerian human-rights activist, and scion of a prominent political family. I am looking forward to her thoughts on how Buhari should deal with the challenge of militancy.


Along with Abiola-Costello, all the Nigerians attending WEF should brace themselves for lots and lots of questions about their new president, and his government. In his absence, they will be his proxies.


As for Zuma, he will not go entirely unheard. South Africa’s president is expected to participate in two WEF sessions: on how to fix the continent’s infrastructure, and how to engage its youth.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:15pm On Jun 01, 2015
jln115:
B-Cat Military concludes Pathfinder Unmanned Ground Vehicle development

"B-Cat Military has finished development testing of its one hundred per cent South African designed and built Pathfinder unmanned ground vehicle (UGV), which is being offered to the South African National Defence Force (SANDF)."


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39352:b-cat-military-concludes-pathfinder-unmanned-ground-vehicle-development&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

Nothing worth seeing here.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Jun 01, 2015
Henry120:


Nothing worth seeing here.
Oh really? Show me Nigeria's 800kg 12.7mm armed UGV

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Jun 01, 2015
The Nigerian Navy is also getting 3 additional ships to it's fleet. The 3 ships arrived the chinese ship yard may 16 2015.

http://www.chceb.com/info_22.aspx?itemid=2852


Use google translate.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:35pm On Jun 01, 2015
Henry120:
The Nigerian Navy is also getting 3 additional ships to it's fleet. The 3 ships arrived the chinese ship yard may 16 2015.

http://www.chceb.com/info_22.aspx?itemid=2852


Use google translate.




What class of ships is NN receiving?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:36pm On Jun 01, 2015
[b]DAILY TRUST
Published on Friday, 07 June 2013
Written by Misbahu Bashir

Nigerian Air Force yesterday said it has resuscitated many of its aircraft using locally produced spare parts. The F-7 fighter jets based in Makurdi, Benue state and the Agusta 109 helicopters in Enugu, Enugu state were among the refurbished planes using locally made spare parts while the Alpha jets in Kainji, Niger state will have some of their parts produced locally.

The Air Force signed a Memorandum of Understanding with 14 tertiary and research institutions on research and development in Abuja. Chief of Standards and Evaluation Air Vice Marshal Sadiq Abubakar said during the event that the service has produced several aircraft parts locally in conjunction with institutions of higher learning thereby reducing dependence on foreign companies.

He said the Air Force has locally produced hydraulic diaphragms for its helicopters which were hitherto obtained from Russia and Ukraine. The new diaphragms can last for over 50 flying hours without replacement unlike the Russian made. “Now all our helicopters are flying,” he said.

He said the electrolytes of the F-7 fighter jets were produced by the air force in collaboration with the Benue State University while the cameras of the Agusta 109 helicopters that were dysfunctional have now been fabricated including the camera recorders.[/b]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:39pm On Jun 01, 2015
jln115:

Oh really? Show me Nigeria's 800kg 12.7mm armed UGV

I'll show you a Nigerian IED Disposal robot instead.


http://www.channelstv.com/2013/07/22/airforce-invents-bomb-detecting-robot-to-fight-boko-haram/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:41pm On Jun 01, 2015
Henry120:


I'll show you a Nigerian IED Disposal robot instead.


http://www.channelstv.com/2013/07/22/airforce-invents-bomb-detecting-robot-to-fight-boko-haram/
Nice we have them to....So im guessing Nigeria doesn't have a armed UGV?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:41pm On Jun 01, 2015
jln115:

What class of ships is NN receiving?

I have no idea, that's why I left out the word "new".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jun 01, 2015
jln115:

Nice we have them to....So im guessing Nigeria doesn't have a armed UGV?

It is the most over-rated piece of equipment...... that is, after the F-35 of-course.



Armed UGV's are going to fail just as sea USV have. I see no actual use for the UGV.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jun 01, 2015
Henry120:


I have no idea, that's why I left out the word "new".
hehe something like the type 022 would be a nice addition don't you think?

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:03am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


It is the most over-rated piece of equipment...... that is, after the F-35 of-course.



Armed UGV's are going to fail just as sea USV have. I see no actual use for the UGV.
Although I agree with you on the F-35... There are a lot of uses for such a system......well B-Cat says there are, anyway it remains untested thus its difficult to say if it will be such a success as B-Cat says it will be, you also have to remember that technology is advancing at an astronomical rate, these systems will only get better and better as time goes by.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:09am On Jun 02, 2015
jln115:

hehe something like the type 022 would be a nice addition don't you think?

Yeah, but highly unlikely. Although, their are rumours that Nigeria is looking at procuring additional missile boats. However, until these rumours are substantiated, I really won't want to speculate.

Again, the chinese Shipyard says Ships and not boats. What is certain at this point is, 3 Nigerian Navy Ships are currently in China.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:14am On Jun 02, 2015
jln115:

Although I agree with you on the F-35... There are a lot of uses for such a system......well B-Cat says there are, anyway it remains untested thus its difficult to say if it will be such a success as B-Cat says it will be, you also have to remember that technology is advancing at an astronomical rate, these systems will only get better and better as time goes by.

I'm referring to armed UGV's in general and not the B-Cat specifically. Just like USV's, I cannot see actual operational use for UGV system.

Perhaps when the world employ laser guns, they would make a come back, but today not really.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:25am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


- The South-Koreans were having their a$ses handed to them on a platter by the North before the Americans, Chinese and Soviets joined the fight. This is a statistical fact.


- LOL grin grin grin, you want to talk about the 50+ years of Colombian trouncing by the Farc. While America was busy beating it's chest on T.V and the successes it was having on narco criminals, the FARC was busy grabbing additional territory and Colombia was occupied in reaching the zenith as the world's largest coka producer.


- Buahahahahahahaha........ the over-pampered sunnis who need Senegalese soldiers to do their fighting for them. I hope you do know, 4000 Saudi soldiers fled their barracks amid houthi retaliation. With many reports putting that figure as high as 10,000 men in recent weeks.


- over 1000 strike sorties on a tiny town cannot be considered as a victory you delusional sad nitwit!


- why don't you tell us who trained the Iraqi army? They fled, living behind over 2300 armoured Humvess grin grin. That's more armoured vehicles than the combined total of all armoured vehicles in the Southern African region.


- IRAQ!!!



Don't be naive, American COIN strategy has failed, you're only probably to stup1d to acknowledge it.

- The South Koreans didnt have any real sort of Army before the Americans provided assistance.

How did the South Korean Army fare DURING the war?

What is the state of ROK forces now?

How did ROK forces perform in Veitnam?

- Is FARC on its knees or not? Yes or no!

- Is Kobani still under seige?

- US trained Iraq troops have not been involved in the fighting.

- Are American combat forces in Iraq? I ask again, if US COIN policy is so bad, point to one country they have been pushed out of.

- Again, I like how you held back on mentioning that the JDF, Bundeswehr and IDF

Henry, you hate for America is so transparent - all because they wouldent sell you weapons and cut their training aid to you. As usual Nigerians display their overly emotional nature.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:26am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


Nothing worth seeing here.

Just another thing you are incapable of building grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:29am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


[s]It is the most over-rated piece of equipment...... that is, after the F-35 of-course.



Armed UGV's are going to fail just as sea USV have. I see no actual use for the UGV.[/s]

Yep - he is trolling again.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:34am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


Yeah, but highly unlikely. Although, their are rumours that Nigeria is looking at procuring additional missile boats. However, until these rumours are substantiated, I really won't want to speculate.

Again, the chinese Shipyard says Ships and not boats. What is certain at this point is, 3 Nigerian Navy Ships are currently in China.
Jap I was being kinda sarcastic.. Anyway we all can dream, just as im hoping Armscor chooses the A100 meko for Project Biro, although I have this feeling that they might go for Gowind class...Not that I don't like the Gowind class but I think it will be much easier to train new crew and maintain the A100 Meko thanks to it being basically a scaled down version of the A200.

As for it being ships not boats!! You have to remember you translated it from Chinese to English using google translater...Lets be honest most of us on this thread don't speak English as our first language.... and im guessing most of us have used translater to either translate something from English to our home language or vice versa, well I did anyway especially when doing Afrikaans assignments as its difficult to get Afrikaans sources for certain subjects...Long story short, it always took me longer to correct all the grammar mistakes when I used Translater than to just re type/write everything to Afrikaans(Im quite lazy at times, thus to re type everything is never my first option)...Thus what im saying is, is that its still uncertain if your source is actually talking about ships or boats.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:38am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


I'm referring to armed UGV's in general and not the B-Cat specifically. Just like USV's, I cannot see actual operational use for UGV system.

Perhaps when the world employ laser guns, they would make a come back, but today not really.
Only time will tell mate!! But quite like the idea of sitting Kms away in a nice airconditioned room, shooting at my enemy without them actually shooting back at me.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:12am On Jun 02, 2015
jln115:

hehe something like the type 022 would be a nice addition don't you think?

Lol the type -022, also known by its USN designation "a massive pain in the arse"

Anyway, more type 056's would serve nigeria better
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:15am On Jun 02, 2015
Henry120:


I'm referring to armed UGV's in general and not the B-Cat specifically. Just like USV's, I cannot see actual operational use for UGV system.

Perhaps when the world employ laser guns, they would make a come back, but today not really.

How can you not see the use for an unmanned mobile 12,5mm gun platform?

Also, pretty damn usefull for recon in FIBUA or NCB detection

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