jln115:

Jap I was being kinda sarcastic.. Anyway we all can dream, just as im hoping Armscor chooses the A100 meko for Project Biro, although I have this feeling that they might go for Gowind class...Not that I don't like the Gowind class but I think it will be much easier to train new crew and maintain the A100 Meko thanks to it being basically a scaled down version of the A200.

As for it being ships not boats!! You have to remember you translated it from Chinese to English using google translater...Lets be honest most of us on this thread don't speak English as our first language.... and im guessing most of us have used translater to either translate something from English to our home language or vice versa, well I did anyway especially when doing Afrikaans assignments as its difficult to get Afrikaans sources for certain subjects...Long story short, it always took me longer to correct all the grammar mistakes when I used Translater than to just re type/write everything to Afrikaans(Im quite lazy at times, thus to re type everything is never my first option)...Thus what im saying is, is that its still uncertain if your source is actually talking about ships or boats.

Meko a100 is a very "meh" platform in the OPV role

Fantastic as a full-spectrum missile corvette (dat sexy concept for the Polish Gawron-class)

But as an OPV? Average

Ardoit outranges it and allows facilities for the rapid embarkment and disembarkment of boarding and interdiction craft

Not to mention that the Gowind has a crew of only 30 - as apposed to the 70 or so on the A100. muuuch cheaper in terms of "human costs"

Aaaannd the Gowind can be upgraded to mount SSM's AND has VLS tubes in the design

But, as i understand it, the ability to operate in sea state 4 (and launch and recover helo's i this sea state) is one of the biggest criterion for Project Biro - and thats i criterion we dont know

lezz:
S.A wasn't a democracy but an apartheid regime.

The public was never having franchise except the whites.

In Nigeria every Nigerian reaching the adult suffrage voted and everyone in Nigeria is eligible to contest election.

Again not so in south Africa.

Same as Nigeria, it was never a democracy and had never been democracy. They held their first elections in 1979 with the government that never completed its term. It was deposed by military and so Nigeria had never been a democracy ever since its independence from Britain. That's a fact you will never change.

Henry120:


First of, American training is sh1t. no country from South-Korea, Philippines, Colombia, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, kuwait, Mali, Cuban dissidents that have received extensive American training have done well in the war.

American trained forces are almost always guaranteed to come out second best in combat.


- most importantly, American Counter-terrorism strategy has been a colossal failure. It just hasn't worked!!



*Funny thing is, every now and then you get American butt-lickers like patches689 claiming it has been successful. Citing Kobani as an example of one of their high points.

American training is good.


Leadership is the problem is those organisations.

Henry120:


It is the most over-rated piece of equipment...... that is, after the F-35 of-course.



Armed UGV's are going to fail just as sea USV have. I see no actual use for the UGV.

Go tell that to IDF!


Sea USV are highly useful and have been used before the word "drone" become famous.

mzilakazi:
Of all hundred countries that helped ANC abroad Nigeria is the only one that makes more noise than everyone else. Instead of Tanzania, Zambia, Algeria and others that housed ANC MK members, making so much noise is always Nigeria that screams in the ears of SA. That's one thing that ANC hates about Nigeria because they always want to remain relevant in the struggle of apartheid forgetting that ANC got help from the world.

we are just that country they envy , they are wel travelled so they no they are decades behind the mighty SOUTH AFRICA .al they hav is population that's it .how do u live in a loud,annoying generator run country .u ppl shud tak a page from our book .we strike wen the lights go off for an hour .now that's democracy

[qud =mzilakazi post=34335576]

Same as Nigeria, it was never a democracy and had never been democracy. They held their first elections in 1979 with the government that never completed its term. It was deposed by military and so Nigeria had never been a democracy ever since its independence from Britain. That's a fact you will never change.[/quote] Military interruption doesn't mean we haven't been a democracy. What Jackshit logic!!! You can change and whine all you can , Nigeria has been a democracy since independence with a coalition formed between the NPC and NCNC that produced Tafawa Balewa and Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe as president and prime minister respectively in 1960 to 1966. President Shagari was president 1979 to 1983.

South Africa has only tested democracy in 1994.
We understand you will never own up.. But such an important history in africa's largest economy and most populous nation is beyond your scope or opinion. Want to troll on.......fine, we have been a democracy when south africa was an apartheid haven.

RudzSA:
we are just that country they envy , they are wel travelled so they no they are decades behind the mighty SOUTH AFRICA .al they hav is population that's it .how do u live in a loud,annoying generator run country .u ppl shud tak a page from our book .we strike wen the lights go off for an hour .now that's democracy

tiny Mozambique supplies you electricity as eskom ensures all of south Africa is lit by candles.

There's nothing Nigeria can take home from south Africa other than a classic case of the Blackman's inability to develop and maintain what the anglo-dutch has built for the past 300 years.

lezz:
tiny Mozambique supplies you electricity as eskom ensures all of south Africa is lit by candles.

There's nothing Nigeria can take home from south Africa other than a classic case of the Blackman's inability to develop and maintain what the anglo-dutch has built for the past 300 years.

maybe it's Bcoz u live in west Africa but lets skul u ..the electricity WE generate from Mozambique also lights up Mozambique ,coz we provide electricity for southern Africa not just S.A .ESKOM (South Africa ) is the one that generates that electricity .thers a lot u can learn from us .u now the biggest economy ,so we don't want u to embarrass us as a continent with your generators

lezz:
[qud =mzilakazi post=34335576]

Same as Nigeria, it was never a democracy and had never been democracy. They held their first elections in 1979 with the government that never completed its term. It was deposed by military and so Nigeria had never been a democracy ever since its independence from Britain. That's a fact you will never change. Military interruption doesn't mean we haven't been a democracy. What Jackshit logic!!! You can change and whine all you can , Nigeria has been a democracy since independence with a coalition formed between the NPC and NCNC that produced Tafawa Balewa and Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe as president and prime minister respectively in 1960 to 1966. President Shagari was president 1979 to 1983.

South Africa has only tested democracy in 1994.
We understand you will never own up.. But such an important history in africa's largest economy and most populous nation is beyond your scope or opinion. Want to troll on.......fine, we have been a democracy when south africa was an apartheid haven.

This s.tupid here does not know that the constitution is what ushers democracy. It is the tool that will be used to achieve democratic principles. Nigeria's first constitutional democracy came into being in 1999.

However, even today Nigeria struggle to achieve ultimate democracy. Until they will start to recognise right to life and rights to sexual orientation, they will still be recognised as pseudo democracy. Being locked up just because you are gay is one thing that should be avoided in democracy.

Nigeria had never been a democracy and still is working towards becoming democracy.

mzilakazi:



This s.tupid here does not know that the constitution is what ushers democracy. It is the tool that will be used to achieve democratic principles. Nigeria's first constitutional democracy came into being in 1999.

However, even today Nigeria struggle to achieve ultimate democracy. Until they will start to recognise right to life and rights to sexual orientation, they will still be recognised as pseudo democracy. Being locked up just because you are gay is one thing that should be avoided in democracy.

Nigeria had never been a democracy and still is working towards becoming democracy.

maybe with the new guy they'll experience it . We are wat is called the free world ,wer gays nd gay marriages are legal ,we hav rights more than Any African ,Asian ,south American wil Eva no . Now that's democracy .a constitution worth celebrating

RudzSA:
maybe it's Bcoz u live in west Africa but lets skul u ..the electricity WE generate from Mozambique also lights up Mozambique ,coz we provide electricity for southern Africa not just S.A .ESKOM (South Africa ) is the one that generates that electricity .thers a lot u can learn from us .u now the biggest economy ,so we don't want u to embarrass us as a continent with your generators

Mozambique threatened to send your Zulu ass to the stone age when you showed your xenophobic claws recently. .

Our generator we used in powering and producing Africa's biggest economy is a standing proof we are head and shoulders above you. The average Zulu is being spoonfed and given hand out by ANC thereby producing Africa's dullest and slowest group

We didn't wait for the government to perform. Our economic success is strictly by the tenacity of Nigerians.

lezz:
tiny Mozambique supplies you electricity as eskom ensures all of south Africa is lit by candles.

There's nothing Nigeria can take home from south Africa other than a classic case of the Blackman's inability to develop and maintain what the anglo-dutch has built for the past 300 years.

Mozambique and Namibia had been getting power from SA for many years and now is their turn, because soon we will be helping them again as usual.

See a generator slave telling a 46 000 MW power producing country all sort of nonsense. SA will soon produce between 60-70 000 MW with the nuclear power station beginning this year.

Meanwhile, Cars are stucked in Nigeria with no petrol. Bicycle is your means of transport bra.

mzilakazi:



This s.tupid here does not know that the constitution is what ushers democracy. It is the tool that will be used to achieve democratic principles. Nigeria's first constitutional democracy came into being in 1999.

However, even today Nigeria struggle to achieve ultimate democracy. Until they will start to recognise right to life and rights to sexual orientation, they will still be recognised as pseudo democracy. Being locked up just because you are gay is one thing that should be avoided in democracy.

Nigeria had never been a democracy and still is working towards becoming democracy.

as a Soweto brought up, I never expected much deductive reasoning upstairs from you.
The 1963 Republican constitution was fully democeatic.

When the military comes in, they suspended it for decree . such as situation is like in a state of emergency. Go back to school or eat the humble pie. Your are so slow.

RudzSA:
maybe with the new guy they'll experience it . We are wat is called the free world ,wer gays nd gay marriages are legal ,we hav rights more than Any African ,Asian ,south American wil Eva no . Now that's democracy .a constitution worth celebrating

Oh!! Bihari is a hardcore Muslim, he might as well abolish alcohol and smoking or even sex before marriage. Hardcore Muslims hate democracy.

lezz:
Mozambique threatened to send your Zulu ass to the stone age when you showed your xenophobic claws recently. .

Our generator we used in powering and producing Africa's biggest economy is a standing proof we are head and shoulders above you. The average Zulu is being spoonfed and given hand out by ANC thereby producing Africa's dullest and slowest group

We didn't wait for the government to perform. Our economic success is strictly by the tenacity of Nigerians.

little did they no that they are nothing without South Africa ,but they came to their senses .they need us more than we nid them .coming to Nigeria , the only tenacity shown by u ppl is in bed . And that myt be yo greatest achievement . Nd wats this tribalism thing u ppl hang on to so much ?m nt Zulu , m Venda ..but we in S.A coexist perfectly fine . U guys nid to stop this Igbo vs Hausa or wateva else u call yo selfs ova there .. I mean I learnt ther was such a thing as Igbo on this forum .realy didn't no such existed

lezz:
as a Soweto brought up, I never expected much deductive reasoning upstairs from you.
The 1963 Republican constitution was fully democeatic.

When the military comes in, they suspended it for decree . such as situation is like in a state of emergency. Go back to school or eat the humble pie. Your are so slow.

I SAY AGAIN NIGERIA HAD NEVER BEEN A DEMOCRACY AND STILL IS NOT DEMOCRACY TODAY. YOUR GOVERNMENT KILL PEOPLE, YOU MEDDLE IN BETWEEN GAY MARRIAGES. EVEN JESUS HAD NEVER MEDDLE IN BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE THE WAY THEY WANTED. GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN IS A MATTER OF CHOICE AND NOT BY FORCE THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES. YOUR DEMOCRACY IS STILL INFLUENCED BY YOUR RELIGIOUS FALLACIES.

YOUR GOVERNMENT IS THE GOVERNMENT BY THE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE AND NOT BY THE PEOPLE.

mzilakazi:



Oh!! Bihari is a hardcore Muslim, he might as well abolish alcohol and smoking or even sex before marriage. Hardcore Muslims hate democracy.

lol Muslim + former military ? Not promising ...

Henry120:


It is the most over-rated piece of equipment...... that is, after the F-35 of-course.



Armed UGV's are going to fail just as sea USV have. I see no actual use for the UGV.

The F-35 is not over-rated just wait until it makes combat debut.


If people had the internet during world war 1 someone would've said tanks have no future in warfare cause they keep breaking down.

RudzSA:
lol Muslim + former military ? Not promising ...

Muslim+Former military+Former dictator under pseudo democracy that Lezz speaks about. Bwahahaha…

mzilakazi:



Mozambique and Namibia had been getting power from SA for many years and now is their turn, because soon we will be helping them again as usual.

See a generator slave telling a 46 000 MW power producing country all sort of nonsense. SA will soon produce between 60-70 000 MW with the nuclear power station beginning this year.

Meanwhile, Cars are stucked in Nigeria with no petrol. Bicycle is your means of transport bra.

Lola, slow Zulu, does generating 45,000 equals dispensing 45,000 ?

The fact is a black south African is the slowest in all of humanity. The anglo-dutch built SA for over 3 centuries and Africa rallied round for you to take control of your own country ....and what do we have? Classic incompetence and imbecility.

Africa should have left you up in those trees where you were content with bananas and noise.

Nigeria has been developing for merely 55 years and have surpassed you on many fonts.

These Zulus just don't know.

Lezz why do u keep referring to trees ? This is Africa's Europe extension ,rather say we climb robots that makes better sense .climbing trees nd bananas that refers to monkeys ,ryt?

lezz:
Lola, slow Zulu, does generating 45,000 equals dispensing 45,000 ?

The fact is a black south African is the slowest in all of humanity. The anglo-dutch built SA for over 3 centuries and Africa rallied round for you to take control of your own country ....and what do we have? Classic incompetence and imbecility.

Africa should have left you up in those trees where you were content with bananas and noise.

Nigeria has been developing for merely 55 years and have surpassed you on many fonts.

These Zulus just don't know.

One thing you will never like about the Zulus is that this year they will start building six nuclear power stations which are already underway.



http://m.mg.co.za/article/2015-05-19-nuclear-build-to-start-this-year

mzilakazi:




I SAY AGAIN NIGERIA HAD NEVER BEEN A DEMOCRACY AND STILL IS NOT DEMOCRACY TODAY. YOUR GOVERNMENT KILL PEOPLE, YOU MEDDLE IN BETWEEN GAY MARRIAGES. EVEN JESUS HAD NEVER MEDDLE IN BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE THE WAY THEY WANTED. GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN IS A MATTER OF CHOICE AND NOT BY FORCE THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES. YOUR DEMOCRACY IS STILL INFLUENCED BY YOUR RELIGIOUS FALLACIES.

you are shouting and weeping my boy. Do nigerians say they wanted to be gays like south Africans ?

We passed the anti gay law by the constituted representatives of the people in Parliament.

Democracy isn't about freedom of inclusive social trends, it's about due process and the wishes of the people. And the majority of Nigerians have said no to gay.

mzilakazi:



One thing you will never like about the Zulus is that this year they will start building six nuclear power stations which are already underway.



http://m.mg.co.za/article/2015-05-19-nuclear-build-to-start-this-year

let me know when they finish it : . If it doesn't end like the military airplane carrier.

RudzSA:
Lezz why do u keep referring to trees ? This is Africa's Europe extension ,rather say we climb robots that makes better sense .climbing trees nd bananas that refers to monkeys ,ryt?

Zulu, you don't fool me, one bit.

South Africa is one of the most unequal countries in the world with 5% whites controlling 85% of the economy and your ancestral lands.

There are two south Africas, the one of the Anglo dutch and the one for Zulus .

And when Zulu push in mass migration into Jo burg, the Anglo dutch scamper in fear of savagery into sandton suburb.

lezz:
let me know when they finish it : . If it doesn't end like the military airplane carrier.

SA three new big powerstations will be in full service next year. The new Medupe and Kusile power stations all have 4600 MW power producing capacity each and some parts of Medupe has already started operating and has been successfully connected to the national grid.

The unit 6 of Medupi is boosting the national grid with 800MW already.



http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/eskom-medupi-s-unit-6-boosts-supply-1.1865002

mzilakazi:


SA three new big powerstations will be in full service next year. The new Medupe and Kusile power stations all have 4600 MW power producing capacity each and some parts of Medupe has already started operating and has been successfully connected to the national grid.

The unit 6 of Medupi is boosting the national grid with 800MW.


http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/eskom-medupi-s-unit-6-boosts-supply-1.1865002

Next year? I thought they were already functional.

Buzz off!!! Your military carrier jet has been all over the electronic news until Zuma had other ideas.

lezz:
Zulu, you don't fool me, one bit.

South Africa is one of the most unequal countries in the world with 5% whites controlling 85% of the economy and your ancestral lands.

There are two south Africas, the one of the Anglo dutch and the one for Zulus .

And when Zulu push in mass migration into Jo burg, the Anglo dutch scamper in fear of savagery into sandton suburb.

Nigeria is as well one of the poorest countries as mentioned by the world bank. You are one of the five severely impoverished countries with majority of your population totalling over 140 million living below the bread line.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/04/440695/

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/144168-nigeria-ranked-amongst-worlds-poorest-competitive-countries.html

jln115:
B-Cat Military concludes Pathfinder Unmanned Ground Vehicle development

"B-Cat Military has finished development testing of its one hundred per cent South African designed and built Pathfinder unmanned ground vehicle (UGV), which is being offered to the South African National Defence Force (SANDF)."


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39352:b-cat-military-concludes-pathfinder-unmanned-ground-vehicle-development&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

you can't afford it. it's not yours. your military is broke. project biro is a 20 year old pipe dream.

you are buying nothing.

stillchris:


you can't afford it. it's not yours. your military is broke. project biro is a 20 year old pipe dream.

you are buying nothing.

Look at this s.tupid one. Even civilians can afford that. How bad do you speak about military that has been getting double your military budget throughout the years. Anyway, that project was specially carried out for SANDF.

lezz:
Next year? I thought they were already functional.

Buzz off!!! Your military carrier jet has been all over the electronic news until Zuma had other ideas.

Nope we are not in a hurry. At least we can chill for now.

mzilakazi:


Nigeria is as well one of the poorest countries as mentioned by the world bank. You are one of the five severely impoverished countries with majority of your population totalling over 140 million living below the bread line.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/04/440695/

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/144168-nigeria-ranked-amongst-worlds-poorest-competitive-countries.html

inadmissible!!! If your source isn't 2015 then it is confined to the dustbin.

Only 33% of Nigerians are poor . fact!!! World bank . IMF.
Nigeria has the largest middle class and highest number of billionaires in Africa. What's that tell you?


Patrice mutsepe is the only zulu billionaire in the land of humans , aliens and spirits. .