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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:37pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Poachers are not a military concern 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:38pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Who says it was shot down? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:39pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
agaugust: 1. The Zimbabwe link is completely invalid 2. You trained him how to fly - no military training 3. No you did not We directly trained you. We own you. End of story |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 3:47pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
lionel4power: You are living in Disney™ Land, I see. SA own you and you are its slaves. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 4:08pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain:see classic case of denial |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
mzilakazi:smh 4 u s.a own Nigeria......now ur brain z functioning in d opposite way....I know u meant NIG own S.A don't worry z just ur error(typographic) but apology accepted.... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:43pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
ddami: Wow!!! babes I was just lashing out at your fellow brother with factual statements. Anyway, when will we communicate? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:45pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: It is. I hope you do know Canada has pulled out it's order for 65 planes, and is instead looking at the Gripen E/F and Rafale as replacements. Your Tank comparison is inaccurate. Right from the start, it was clear that the British had invented the world's greatest equipment. Armed UGV'S are just not it. Asides providing covering fire, i see no other use for them. @all, the T-14 is to be equipped with an AESA radar. The coolest Tank in the world just got cooler. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:47pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Desperation will never help you at all. How does two SANDF members who attended a course in Nigeria at your request equate into training the whole SANDF. South Africans trained the whole Nigerian government troops, from their generals to their privates. Shame!!! Msanzi own you. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:50pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: American training is no good. It just doesn't work! The Iraqis abandoned over 2300 armoured vehicles in Mosul, in a fighting ratio of 11:1 in favour of the Iraqi army. This is a fighting force that had received extensive American training. You absolutely cannot blame this on poor leadership. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:51pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Reports the Canadians deny Unmanned and armed ground vehicles have multiple uses, from IED/Mine detection, urban recon, perimeter defense and CBN detection The one that most sticks out is perimeter defence - you could set them up on pre-determined patrol routines, and have them activate to a centralized controll module when something is detected. Meaning that one man can operate and manage as many sentries as you want. I dont understand your obsession with the F-35, I can only assume you dont understand its role or are not fully aware of its capabilities. And for the love of god stop going on about "its not stealthy" - stealth is not its primary focus, it is simply a design feature. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:52pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: USV's like UGV's are terribly useless. Only the IDF is a significant user, even at that, there limitations are well detailed in IDF use. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:53pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Henry I told you before I will tell you again. Iraqi troops with American training are not involved in front-line combat - they are wisely being held in reserve. Currently it is militia (shia) and domestically trained men (read: militia in Iraqi army uniforms) And yes - it is literally because of poor leadership. You forget that the Iraqi army went from ZERO men in ~2005 to 283,000 in less than a decade. Standards have to be VERY low to build up that kind of manpower. It takes generations to build up the skills and human capital for an effective army. As for American training - consult with the Germans, Koreans, Isrealy's, Columbians and Japs about the quality of American training. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:54pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: How are they useless? Do you wish to swim out to sea-mines yourself and disarm them? Do you wish to wander around the battle-feild and try detect NBCW deployment? No? Ok, then they arent useless |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
jln115: How then do you reload from KM's away? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Since, when was anti-poaching a military assignment? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: You dont You pull back the drone and send out a replacement |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:56pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Since he has been desperatly looking for something to criticize us about |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:02pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry While you critique the Americans training qualities due to Iraqi army failures. You seem to have overlooked Eastern Bloc training failures in: - Syria - Egypt - Angola - Pakistan (oh pakistan you pathetic pathetic military) - Afghanistan - Libya |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
mzilakazi:Apparently u lashed out trash and I corrected ur mistake 4 u I expected a thank u but u are welcome......D only communication we are having is- Nigeria z d best country in Africa...u nid 2 assimilate d@ b4 u com up wit "WE" communicate in ur dreams 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:14pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:And India just reduced the number of Rafales it is going to buy, cause they wanna funds to purchase some local aircraft. UGV can do a lot of things. So? Being cool doesn't make a system effective in the field. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Nigeria cancelled the training with the Americans, and not the other way round. Get your facts right. *that's a legitimate reason to hate the Americans. American deception and hypocrisy stinks to high heavens. However, that's not the reason why I think American training is sh1t. It simply is, and I have given enough reasons and actual instances why American training is largely ineffective. - South-Korea was getting their a$ses handed to them in the Korean war before American intervention. In a battle with the North with outside interference I see same thing happening again. Hi-tech of photographs don't mean effective. - Farc controls a large chunk of Colombia, despite years after years of American Training, equipment and favour. Militarily Farc is still very effective and are no way on their knees. - Kobani is rubble..... after over 1000 largely ineffective airstrikes. they broke the siege alright...... as well as the city. nitwit! - whatever you mean by U.S trained iraqi troops..... the Iraqi Army is completely U.S setup and virtually U.S trained you m0ron!! - do you even understand what COIN is? - Japan, Germany all had and still have large very experienced militaries. Nothing to do with the U.S. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Buhahahahahahahahaha........ *i just hope you knew that was a sarcastic comment. Armed UGV's are a waste of resources. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: My comparisons are specific. A de-mining drone or an IED disposal robot aren't the same thing as armed UGV or USV. The differences have since been clear. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:26pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Resources and manpower are placed under a commanding officer. If he lacks command and control! If he can't manage resources and men under placed him! Well you'll see what is happening in Iraq. Demoralised forces routing, scampering and leaving equipment behind. Organisational weaknesses! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 5:27pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Do you really know just how important is UGV young boy?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:28pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: - South Korea got very little support from America before the war. In a war with the North (without Nukes) the ROK would fvcking curb-stomp the North. Are you insane? Do you think a paltry 1,7 million half starved peasants with obsolete weapons stand a chance against 3,5 million men with some of the most advanced equipment on the face of the planet? Dude, you are beyond delusional if you think that the North stands a snowballs chance in hell against the South!! One Sejong The Great destroyer is enough to down half the north korean Airforce!! - FARC are literally on their knees and have been forced to the negotiation table. - No US trained troops are involved in the fighting around Ramadi http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/28/no-us-trained-troops-in-iraqs-new-fight-for-ramadi/28083677/ - Again, is Kobani still under siege? No? Ok then. Those "innefective airstrikes" not only stopped ISIS in its tracks - but broke its back and allowed the Kurds to break out of the pocket! - Yes, I understand COIN - we are the people your government pay to teach you about it. Now answer the question - list successfull insurgencies that have pushed American combat troops out of their zones and have lead to a succesfull insurgency. Please say Veitnam, fvcking please - German, Japanese, Korean and Isrealy militarys are amongst the top 10 most powerfull in the world - thanks to US training and doctrine. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:29pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Because you say so? All the armies and designers have no idea what they are doing... but you do? Yeah, ok. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: "the Iraqi army went from ZERO men in ~2005 to 283,000 in less than a decade. " Who was in charge of Iraq then, who built the numbers? Shai militia men are the guys who doing most of the heavy lifting. Colombia = Sh1t. Israel = experiences from world war II Germany and Japan = the Axis of evil in world war II. They are both class acts and none of it has anything to do with the Americans. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:30pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Why cant they do both? Huh? a de-mining drone that can defend itself and thus does not need to by baby-sat by troops? Also, you seem to be avoiding the whole "perimiter defence" concept like the plauge - probably as you know that it is perfect for it 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
lionel4power:Dude if it was sarcastic why then did you defend your statement when you said Congo had way more natural resources than Thailand and thus it was richer? BTW it was a subconscious mistake just go look at my older comments from a few weeks back were I correctly typed guerrilla warfare |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:33pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Americans built the initial core - the Iraqi's built the rest themselves Colombia = about to win a war against insurgents Isreal = American trained, supplied and built. German and Japanese Armies were disbanded after WW2 - and rebuilt by the Americans in the 1950's. Again, henry, your overly emotional nature and unwarranted dislike for the west (it must hurt to have your affections turned down) is clouding your judgement. |
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