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Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ngokafor(f): 5:47pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: ......Hats off to the only male that makes sense on this section.,big ups 8 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 5:47pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
I implore you to desist from quoting me. Take whatever it is that bites you to the origin where it came from. If you notice, I like to ignore you. Accord me the same courtesy pls. Thank you. TooNoisy: 14 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy:Why not go to your own village and encourage women to be submissive instead of attacking innocent women here. 14 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by raumdeuter: 5:52pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
cococandy: In my culture, there is a saying that says "Aponle kosi fun Oba ti ko ni olori" meaning no respect or honor for a king without a Queen Its basically the same for both gender, A man is seen as irresponsible if he isnt married even in corporate world. Many succesful men are told better go get married. Being married is tied to being responsible Summary both gender are expected to be married by a certain age and not doing that draws ridicule from the society 14 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 5:52pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire: My question is that do you believe that marriage is interdependence? I am a married woman and I am not independent neither is my husband. We have both forfeited our independence and we are happy to say so. We depend on each other for everything. Are you married? Does your husband dictate to you? My husband does not and most marriages I know, they are people who are in love - like my luvly parents. I am not sure Fela was the quintessential african and neither is he mine role model or my husband's role model. My husband does not smoke igbo or walk about in pants. We enjoyed Fela's beats but didnt take him more seriously than that. Alot of Nigerian women I know including myself love Chivalry. Now I am going personal. 17 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ewuro4: 5:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire:Hmm I don't see anything wrong with the attitude. Superiority & Inferiority are both subjective terms. Feminists made the word frivolous and berating. I respect what you stand for though. |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 5:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
cococandy: I am sorry if you found my post offensive.... I was just offering a simple solution to an issue you raised. No offense meant I have not noticed you like to ignore me because I can't remember quoting you. 15 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ngokafor(f): 5:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee: ...no not submissive but doormats and slaves |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 5:56pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee: Why are you making fun of cococandy? 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Stillfire: 6:02pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
NifemiOlu: See Nifemi, we acknowledge the fact that women are indeed enablers of most of the oppressive systems that assail womanhood. However from my stay here on NL and social media, Nigerian MEN bash single women more! More men bashed Oshiomole, and ridiculed his wife for being a gold digger. The anger emanates from the fact that women like that would not date them. Our attitudes towards femininity is what I am against. Our society places men on a pedestal and places womanhood as mere appendages to men. I have a problem with that. Feminism is cultural reorienting your mindset, hence your thread. It has made you ponder on these social injustices and attitudes we choose to define womanhood. 3 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ewuro4: 6:06pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee: Royalroy please warn this kid to watch her unflossed mouth here. Adults are having a discourse here not teenagers. 3 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 6:06pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Flies swatted off. Back to the topic. The possible ways that feminism can be successful in Nigeria without giving way to radicalism. 1) stop demonizing the concept of a strong woman. This happens two ways. Some ladies think being a strong woman is about being loud, 'toutish' and rude. Wrong. The concept of being a pillar by themselves is kind of alien. Other people actually think it is bad for a lady to be seen as tough person. I keep talking from experience. Where I come from, if you're perceived to have a strong personality as a lady, you're called 'acha nwanyi'. Literally doesn't translate to anything I can think of in the English language but it is a name nobody wants to be called. So there's this mind conditioning that makes ladies feel like they have to mask their strengths and be docile no matter what in order to be seen as ladylike. Even to their own detriment. Funny enough this is not how it used to be. Strong women used to be objects of admiration. What happened? I think a woman can still be ladylike without being weak. strong without being rude or nasty. Now the bad thing about demonizing strength in a woman is that any lady who feels like she doesn't want to fit into the box designed for her may tend to go the extreme length prove that she's not an inferior human being. Which is where the excess begin to come in. 9 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 6:08pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy:lmao It is well. If you would kindly face the topic now. 8 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 6:09pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee:my dear, pls ignore 3 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
I don't think there's anything bad about our culture e.g men paying bride price. From few I've learnt about Igbo culture, when a woman marry and bear only female children & her husband dies, if she is very old, she can marry her fellow woman. But heck, she doesn't make it a big deal that she paid her bride price unlike SOME MEN. I think male orientation has to be restructured. 5 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 6:13pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: By whom please? You? 3 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 6:17pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
cococandy: Show me where I ever quoted you. You people just attack personalities when you do not have reasonable arguments. 10 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 6:19pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
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Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Stillfire: 6:19pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Ewuro4: I respect your own stance too. I don't believe masculinity is superior to femininity. Neither is a husband superior to a wife. The dictionary clearly explains what those terms mean. When we allude to the superiority of men, we allude to our inferiority. However at the moment, since we live in a patriarchal society, are we just going to keep quiet? Absolutely not. We can start from what structures are put in place to protect womanhood? And how are they enforced? I cannot leave it in the hands of a patriarchal system that would rather I kept quiet because their egos are getting crush. 5 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 6:20pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy:Ok you didn't quote me. Can we move on? 7 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by crackhaus: 6:22pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee:my baby,I missed u |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: Let us start with your orientation. What kind of restructuring do you need? You are male I believe. 5 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Unibenstudent:Your baby? u're very SILLY 4 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 6:32pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee:who is silly ,Victoria? |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by klark3: 6:32pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
raumdeuter:What women are fighting for is same rights & opportunities as men. I believe Child support, child marriage, domestic violence, child labour, also involve male child. So I see no gender discrimination. But what I don't understand is female mutilation & girl child education. Anyone can be mutilated, be it male or female. As long as u are on dis earth. Why d emphasis on girl child? As regards girl child education, based on what I know, no female child is denied admission into any school in dis country, simply because she is a girl child ( frm nursery to tertiary institution) or restrained frm studying any course, none dat I know of. perhaps u can educate me on dis girl child education. |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by lilmax(m): 6:33pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
See thread |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy:Women have to teach their male kids the value of marriage and whatever they deem fit to teach girls. Sometimes, I get this from my mum, you are a man and you must marry a woman who will respect you but she fails to teach respect is reciprocal. Not like my dad never reciprocated it, anyway. I'm sure he was never taught, but he got it due to his cool-headedness. 8 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ngokafor(f): 6:37pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy: ...If you do not have any more contributions to make,kindly excuse yourself and stop trying desperately to derail this thread...abi dem send you? . 7 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 6:38pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire: I think for now, the basics have been established in NIGERIA. Now education is a right. only that parents in those heavily religious and cultural areas need more enlightenment. They need to know that their kids have a right to refuse being married off against their wishes and that the kids right is supposed to be honored regardless of what their religion says. If we begin to teach our daughters to desire marriage for the right reasons (family and love) and not as social status thing. That would be a big step. As for the others didn't GEJ just pass a bill into law which criminalizes violence against persons in the family setting and abdication of ones responsibilities to their kids. So any woman who doesn't feel safe at home can legally separate from the husband and he could be penalized under the law. Also no woman is supposed to use the excuse of staying for the kids to endure abuse. She should be able to support them partly and have the man bring his quota. Failure on his part to do so is now an offense and he can be prosecuted for it. It's all relatively new. But with time, they should become common place. I don't know if pay gap exists in the Nigerian civil service. So imma keep shut about that. As for the rest, it's all societal perception. There's no law that states men are superior but the nuances are all there. It will only take time,the cultivation of self esteem and positive self redefinition amongst the ladies to stop buying into that idea. Then it will go away by itself. Maybe in 300yrs who knows. 1 Like |
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