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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:You drive it back. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
ddami:how do you want me to take you seriously when you write r3tarded sh1t like this? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
ddami:how do you want me to take you seriously when you write r3tarded sh1t like this? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:36pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
jln115: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 5:40pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry is just taking chances, UGV is more important than useless IED and bomb detonating robot. armed UGV is the best. It let the enermy to fight with machines before you can physically engage it. They make perfect combination with UAVs.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: -The Syrian army is doing perfectly fine despite attacks from American/sunni funded terrorist groups and ISIS. - Egypt has over 200 F-16 and over a 1000 Abrams tank. It is much an American failure than it is eastern. Mubarak had very strong ties with the west, SISI is only beginning to diversify. So the inability of the Egyptian army to quell or degrade insurgents in Egypt is as much fault an Egyptian failure as it is American. - Angola was a victory for the communists. - Afghanistan, ![]() ![]() ![]() - Pakistan is militarily very strong, they only face the exact same problem as Turkey and Russia. Home grown insurgency is very difficult to defeat. - Libya, a prosperous African country, until the Americans arrived!! 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:48pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Doctrine! A doctrine will be drawn when new technology is introduced into a force. Example: UAV. 1. Hendry MkII UAV has a range 700km. 2. You wanna fly Hendry MkII from airbase A to D. B and C are still air bases. 3. Between A to D is 700km. 4. Part of your doctrine if you're smart won't allow you to fly from A to D. 5. You'll still need to have enough fuel to divert back to air base A, B or C for various reasons like weather(visibility). Conclusion: You'll fly Henry MkII to maybe airbase B or C then continue to D. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:50pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Oh Pakistan you're the worst! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:50pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: - SAA is getting its sh1t pushed in at the moment m8. Pay attention to the news. - I am refferring to Egypt in its wars with Isreal, two utter defeats by the tiny American trained and armed nation of Isreal - Angola was only a victory when the SADF pulled out and the Americans dropped their support for UNITA. The fact that MPLA was getting the best of the best from the Communists, as well as 60 000 support troops and senior leadership from Moscow... and they could not defeat a paltry Battle-Group of sanctions starved SADF and their peasant allys in UNITA says it all. - Pakistan has repeatedly been utterly obliterated by India (in major engagements) - Libya. Trained by Russia and the East - comprehensibly defeated by Chad and their Toyota pick-ups |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:56pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Angola a victory for the communists.....Uhm when? As far as I know Angola is a democracy thanks to the SADF. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: We aren't talking about UAVs. Same scenario is largely inefficient with UGVs. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
jln115: Angola...... a democracy with Dos Santos in power. LOL! How long has he been in power again, remind me? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:11pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The commanding officer's training is supposed to kick in to prevent demoralisation from happening. A commanding officers effectiveness boils down to the sort of training he has received. If the training is no good, he would abandon over 2300 armoured vehicles. It is all training, training, training. And Iraq is a perfect example of the ineffectiveness of U.S training. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:14pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:There will be a limit on how much it must use. Energy, ammunition and more before pulling back to reload. How does a tank a re-load? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:20pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:If the command chain breaks during combat from strategic commanders setting in the capital and tactical commanders in the field. Well there will be a rout. Command and control. Organisational weaknesses. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:22pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: Again, no US trained troops are involved in the current fighting. Tell me - if you are facing enemies on multiple axis's of advance. And you have only a divisions worth of quality troops and about 200,000 poor quality troops Where do you deploy your division? Between Falujha and Baghdad? or around Ramadi (with no ability to defend Baghdad) with Falujha between your best troops and your capital? Answer: You deploy them around Baghdad facing the Western ISIS thrust (Falujha) and the Eastern ISIS thrust (Diyala) In the grand scheme of things Ramadi is insignificant - unless the Iraqi's had a huge offensive planned along the Southern Axis down rout 1 (which they didnt) it serves little strategic or tactical importance - if anything, the loss of Ramadi will shorten the total frontage the Iraqi army has to hold and thus allow more effective concentration of power and less wastage due to the fact that you dont have supply lines running through ISIS dominated territory. Whilst simultaneously tying up more ISIS troops in holding another city. Sure, you dont want to lose the city - buts its loss is not the end of the world. Its all part of a larger startegry based on holding the line while the rest of the Iraqi army gets trained up to scratch. A minor setback |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:23pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: - South-Korea got a whole lot of support from the Americans during the Korean war. This is a statistical fact!! - No evidence the South would defeat the north today in combat. The north will turn soeul to rubble in the same fashion as kobani. - 55 years of war, and the Colombian government had to plead with Norway to mediate between them and Farc. *Farc still controls large parts of Colombia, that's not a rebel group on it's knees boy. - the Iraqi army is U.S setup, trained and equipped you m0ron. - Kobani is rubble, this isn't breaking the siege. "You don't cut off the wrist because the pinky is rotten". - Provide evidence that the government of Nigeria hired South-Africans? Again I ask, do you know what an insurgency is? - Germany, Japan had bigger militaries before American intervention. Infact American intervention in these countries only left their militaries weak. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: It is a waste. This isn't a Tank. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:27pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:The SANDF is still using the RPG-7 as its main anti-tank rocket. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Poor ineffective training. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:By your reasoning im guessing South Africa isn't a democracy as well? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
jln115: Question was, how long has he been in power? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:31pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Commanders at the strategic level have no command and control over forces on the ground. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:32pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120: - at the start of the war the South Koreans received very limited support from the US. During the war the Korean Army performed amazingly. - Uhh, the fact that the South Koreans not only have a bigger army, but a better equipped army is more than enough evidence. Turn Seoul to rubble? Maybe, but the ROK will be in Pyongyang in under a month. - Columbia: The US, increasingly alarmed by Colombia's role in the drug trade, got involved in Colombia's war in the 1990s. In 2002, President Álvaro Uribe took office after campaigning on a promise to end the war. He cracked down on the FARC and was largely successful in undermining the group's power. The military regained much of the FARC's territory, and by 2013, the FARC had just over 7,000 members, down from a height of 16,000 in 2001. http://www.vox.com/2014/12/18/7412615/farc-colombia-ceasefire So, 25 years after America got involved, FARC is on its knees - FACT - Americans only trained a small core of the Iraqi army. FACT All told, that suggests that some 33,500 Iraqi troops have reached the point where they can "own their own battle space," as the president put it. http://www.cfr.org/iraq/training-iraqi-forces/p9378 How big is the Iraqi army? - Kobani is no longer under seige, the vitally strategic position was held and ISIS was pushed back. Stop moving the goal-posts, the seige was BROKEN and ISIS were PUSHED BACK. The town was destroyed? So was Stalingrad, Berlin, Warsaw (twice), Leningrad, Caen, Grozny, Sarejavo - yet all are major military victories. - America destroyed the German and Japanese armies and then rebuilt them, into some of the most powerfull in the world. I like it how, when it is a success story its totally all due to indigenous peoples - but when its a failure its all the Americans fault. Such hypocracy |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The few countries that use them, only do so as a diversionary or suppressing fire role. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:"It is all training, training, training" going to have t save this post of yours, when your Nigerian colleague start criticizing the SANDF because it lacks experience(Which it doesn't BTW) |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:34pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
mzilakazi:Highly useful. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:I don't know bro, and frankly I don't really care, if the people continue to vote for him...then who are we to judge. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:37pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
jln115: What I mean by that is, the sort of training received. MuMu!!!! "Can't you deduce what I meant from that post?". |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:37pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
jln115: This If they want him forever they can chose him forever - thats democracy (Sadly) FYI, here in Korea the president can only do one 5 year term. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:39pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Henry120:Maybe that's because it is still kind of new? A few countries that used UAVs in the 80s only used them for ISR. Only now we see more usage from EW to ground attack. |
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