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Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 7:16pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
cococandy: Ok, so do you mean marriage is important to women? And should we teach our daughters that marriage is important? I do not want to misunderstand you this time so answer yes or no. 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 7:16pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: a woman is beneath her husband! an unmarried woman isn't beneath anyone until she marries. every scriptural book on the planet explained this bit in details...... Chillisauce: who are my colleagues? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ewuro4: 7:16pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Gosh. Nifemiolu congratulation 1 Like |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 7:18pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
All men are the same and a girl screamed; All men are dog, because of her boyfriend promiscuity. According to Coogar, she's right. We can see who possess shallow intellectual depth. 8 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogaluta(f): 7:18pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar: Hallelujah @ the bolded! I for vex if we are the same 3 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 7:18pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: Make I retire. I have told the moderator to give you one like from me anytime you post . Ishilove, pls keep giving this guy one like. I don't care what he post. Just like the thing for me. 4 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar:You want make them ban me so I won't be able to click like again. God pass you |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 7:23pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: you are the one with a single digit intelligence quotient. so you are comparing the behavioural attitude of 2 men from different backgrounds to the biological make up that groups 2 men together as male? you should hand over your certificates back to the mumu school that trained you. is this your argument? because all men aren't dogs means boy A & boy B are not of the same gender? i don find market to bully today. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar:I'm officially done with you. Men and women are not the same, hence they are not equal. A woman is beneath a man meaning she's unequal. Balderdash! If you can't compare the equality of men and women because they are not the same, I don't see why you should compare that one is beneath another. SIMPLY, say they're not incomparable. Bible admits that humans are equal. By the way, i'm a skeptical theist; christian. Contradiction101. Bye coogar. 6 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 7:27pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
FrancisTony: the bible never admitted such.... the bible clearly stated the husband of a woman must rule over her. the New Testament also clearly explained the trade by barter between a man & his wife. she should surrender herself to him(submission) while he gives her his love. even the trade isn't equal.....so what's your argument? what do you have in common with a woman? do you menstruate? 10 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 7:34pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy:are you sure? Yes marriage is important to women. And it is important to men. Marriage is important for the good of the society. Marriage for the wrong reasons is not. Marriage for the wrong reasons is number one cause of broken homes. |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 7:35pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Chillisauce: 1 Like |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by bukatyne(f): 7:36pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Ewuro4: I thought the consensus was that the husband makes the decisions? That's What makes them superior. @Last paragraph, let's for the sake of This thread say a husband is superior to his wife.... Does a husband wake up and travel to kafancha? I am assuming that the feminist in your post is single... Does. A sensible single travel from his /her base without notifying anybody? No relatives? No friends? Does a woman travelling without telling anyone make her equal to a man? Is it a man's inherent characteristics to travel without notifying anybody? 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 7:38pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire: how ironic? that one of the most hardworking african feminists forgot to raise her son to be a gentleman. 7 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by bukatyne(f): 7:39pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
cococandy: I pray so |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by TooNoisy(f): 7:47pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
cococandy: Let it be on record that a nairaland feminist believes marriage is very important to women. How important is marriage to women. Would you say very important? 5 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 7:47pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Ewuro4: you must be very intelligent! feminists made the word frivolous. a vice president does not feel inferior. a co-pilot does not feel inferior. why are the 21st century women getting antsy over the word inferior. feminism is a fraud! they are selling a lie....talking about how women weren't allowed education or voting rights. men of lower class, coloured men, men who had no lands were all also deprived these rights too. the draconian laws that existed then did not oppress women alone. the laws oppressed everyone that was not in the upper class echelon. while women in america had no voting rights, women in sierra leone were voting, yes - sierra leone(the same super-sexist africa) allowed women to vote before america did. 10 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Stillfire: 7:54pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy: Yes I believe in the interdependence ideals of marriage, where an assigned role to each species is NOT seen as less or more important to the other. That interdependence in itself is Feminist. I cannot feign ignorance on the societal, religiously and cultural expectations of a wife to be subservient to the husband. Such cultural expectations is not one of interdependence, but dependency. That itself has placed an hierarchy and places men as superior to females. If males are superior, are you as a woman an inferior species? Because that is clearly what you are telling me. Fela is apt in my description. He is not a gentleman. A gentlemen is a chivalrous and a courteous man. Maleness is not personified as chivalrous in African culture, he is authoritative and women are to open doors for him instead. For an African woman to be using chivalry as a reason why she does or doesn't believe in feminism is laughable at its best. Examples of chivalry 1. Opening doors A guy who takes the time to come around and open the car door for you is a keeper, not to mention a commodity this winter. With certain states getting up to five inches of snow an hour, do you want to be left standing outside in a blizzard while your date gets nice and toasty in the driver’s seat? Recognize and appreciate a guy who puts your comfort and well-being first, even if it’s just for a few extra seconds. 2. Saving the last bite of food They say the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. So, when he saves the last bite for you, it’s basically him saying he likes you more than whatever meal is in front of him. Which, for the record, is a lot. 3. Spending time with your family A guy who shows an interest in your baby photos, coaches your little brother on how to throw a football and compliments your mother’s cooking is a guy who’s in it for the long haul. These are small gestures, but they speak volumes about his intentions. 4. Suffering through a girly movie When a man volunteers to endure a girly show or movie because he knows you’ll enjoy it, he earns major bonus points. (Even more if he does so without complaining or expecting something in return.) 5. Sending flowers I’m not talking about the $100 bouquet you get on Valentine’s Day. I’m talking about the grocery store assortment he picked up on a random Tuesday while thinking of you. There’s just something about unexpected flowers that makes a girl smile. 6. Walking on the outside of the sidewalk The first time someone does this, you will probably be confused. But then you’ll start to question how come other men in your life have never been concerned about positioning themselves in such a way that you’d be protected should curbside tragedy strike. It’s not a must, but it’s certainly nice to have. 7. Kissing your forehead Sure, if you’re hoping to date someone and he does this, it can be a dreaded sign of sibling-like affection. But, if you’re in a long-term relationship and your guy does this, it’s a small gesture that can make you feel adored. 8. Putting your jacket on Does the above sound African to you? The African male considers it his duty to provide, the other qualities that is important in the sustenance of the marriage is none of his business. Chivalry should be left for oyibos to debate whether they want it or not. That discussion has nothing to do on an african forum. Unless we can define it in our own African way... a man pounding yam is very chivalrous! 7 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ewuro4: 7:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Coogar we have to find another synonym to represent that Word. The paranoia & katatata wey e dey cause no get part 2. When you're indeed sure of your capabilities and status.. No yeye word will move you. That's why we tell them to get a JOB for starters. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 7:57pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Ewuro4: osinbajo should feel ashamed cos he is buhari's deputy(inferior). 7 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Stillfire: 7:58pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar: Again chivalry is the least concern of the African feminist. It does not exist in our environment. I am not interested in you coming out of your car and walking round it for you to open my door. Rotflmao! 5 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 7:59pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar:President got there by hardwork. Pilot got there by hardwork. Other ones were favoured. Can that be said of marriage that's gotten by privilege? 4 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ewuro4: 8:02pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire ... I can boast on behalf of my Westernized but traditional Nigerian husband does;2,3,5,6,7&8 regularly in your Chivary list 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 8:02pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire: it does! so a man going to see his prospective-in laws isn't chivalrous? a man that has to buy a set of st. michael's undies for his mother in law isn't chivalrous? chivalry clearly exists in africa - the flavour of what we term as romance is the difference. men still make sure jobs that can physically scar women are kept away from them. when men - some of them as young as 15 were being drafted to fight biafra war, where were the women? that's not chivalry? VictoriaBee: so you don't think married men must have worked hard to become husbands? do you know the number of hoops nigerian men are made to jump before they can officially own a wife? •bride price •traditional wedding •introduction that's not all - some families send spies to learn the background of the groom. if there's any strange ailment in his family, the marriage can be annulled. i can boldly say it's easier to become a president in nigeria than to get married. no presidential candidate is forced to prostrate in the sand to get a bride - men do that on a weekly basis in nigeria. 11 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Ewuro4: 8:04pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar: Make him a congratulatory cake and write 'inferior' on it... He'll gladly eat the corner piece To each and his owns. |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Stillfire: 8:11pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar: Males are inferior to females then. How does that feel? If we can allude to the superiority of the male gender, so we should be able to allude to the inferiority of the female gender. I have no qualms with women who see themselves as such, but for the love of God do not use it to define other women. 6 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by cococandy(f): 8:17pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
TooNoisy:this smacks of an underhanded effort to ... Do what? I don't even know. Let me indulge you anyway. How important is marriage to women? Very important. Is it also important to men? Yes. Very important. It is important to all of us. But not everyone should be required to get married. And their worth shouldn't be dependent on it. While I can be fine being single and by myself, I'd very much prefer to share my life with someone who loves me and has my back and I his. On a social platform, I don't consider marriage important for me to be accorded any form of respect or elevation that I have not earned by my own merit over a single woman. Let me for a moment believe that you're truly oblivious to the subtle discrimination single women face in certain places because of being single. Have you ever heard someone say "don't talk to her like that. She's a married woman?" Well I have. The message it gives is that it is ok to belittle the single one there after all her status hasn't been elevated to that of a Mrs. In Igbo land There's a slang used to mock older single ladies "oto na aka Nne" Loosely means 'the one nobody married'. Meaning A woman's ability to get a to man desire and marry her determines her worth. If she doesn't get married, then there must be something less worthy about her. All it teaches is that her value as a person is validated the moment a man sees her worthy of being "under his roof". Do you still not understand why marriage must not be held as value placement for women? 5 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 8:18pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Stillfire: if i were female, i would be very happy that the only being i am inferior to is my husband. i mean, what if God made women as spinach.....you would have about 300 living things to see as your superior. you should be grateful that only one man is superior to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Nobody: 8:19pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar: so you don't think married men must have worked hard to become husbands? do you know the number of hoops nigerian men are made to jump before they can officially own a wife?They made it seem so. •bride priceThe whole sh1t was instituted by traditional men. No one woman begged for it. They can stop it, we won't cry. Infact, women are clamouring for it to stop but men don't want to end it. that's not all - some families send spies to learn the background of the groom. if there's any strange ailment in his family, the marriage can be annulled.Sorry, this is old and no longer applied now except in the Village. i can boldly say it's easier to become a president in nigeria than to get married. no presidential candidate is forced to prostrate in the sand to get a bride - men do that on a weekly basis in nigeria.I'm not Yoruba. In my culture, men don't prostrate but shake hands. |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by freecocoa(f): 8:22pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Wow! So a feminist should not get married to prove a point, I wonder what you people take feminism to mean. 4 Likes |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by Stillfire: 8:22pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
coogar: This is the definition of chivalry chiv·al·ry ˈSHivəlrē/Submit noun the medieval knightly system with its religious, moral, and social code. historical knights, noblemen, and horsemen collectively. "I fought against the cream of French chivalry" the combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, especially courage, honor, courtesy, justice, and a readiness to help the weak. courteous behavior, especially that of a man toward women. The word is not ours. So what you listed are not chivalrous acts. But cultural demands that need to be scraped and as a Feminist its either we both pay brideprice or scrape the system with immediate alacrity. Also, maybe you can start by telling me how African society has helped the 'weak-vesseled' African woman! Maybe I will change my views... 1 Like |
Re: Feminism: A Joke In Nigeria—for Now! by coogar: 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
VictoriaBee: who made it seem so?
women are the ones benefitting from this illegal trade the most. ask cococandy - she's an ada. in 20 years time, she would go back to her village and become the chief tax officer for any groom that intends to marry in her borough. it's a cycle!
it still applies - background check is still alive & kicking.
you see? this is what yoruba men go through week in week out. his dignity must be laid bare before they can deem him worthy to own a wife. how is that not hardwork?
i am sure they would rather prostrate than pay for that long list of things to buy for the traditional wedding. prostrating is evil but it's the lesser evil here. 1 Like |
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