JigsawKillah:


did Zidane keep the balls out of the net? NO

did he score the most goals? NO

did he make the most dribbles? YES

did he created the most chances? YES




You ain't got the answer Sir

Zidane didnt score the most goals, he made the most dribbles nd created the most chances, yet he was celebrated, now dey keep shouting Hazard doesn't score more goals, dey completely ignored the excellent chances he creates nd his dribbles....
lol, these Bayern trolls think dey are intelligent, buh the more dey yarn balls to prove a point against Hazard, the more dey show their stupidity.....watch him, he'll not come back nd reply to this.

Debroslink:


What will we not see here? Comparing Zidane with Ikedia Hazard is a taboo.

Yes, Zidane didn't score many goals but...

He singlehandedly won the world cup for France in 1998

He singlehandedly won the CL for Madrid in 2002

Can you proudly say Hazard singlehandedly won the Epl or Europa for Chelsea.

my friend read very well, stop been childish and sentimental. he didn't compare hazard to zidane, he was trying to let you know this generation rate players base on number of goals unlike the time of zidane were overall performance on the field of play was used to judge players which hazard is in this generation...messi and cr7(mostly cr7 because he is obsess with scoring lot of goals even if his team go trophy-less for personal glory) time will soon be over then football will come to normal. Have you notice lately there are no more upcoming world class defender, why? every player want to be an attacker because its the only position giving more credit as result of the standard messi and cr7 have set.
you mean say una wise pass sport pundit, sport site, papers, legend in the game, et al who always acknowlegde hazard's talent..smh..hazard is a total package as a footballer thats what draws the world attention to him except his haters but i'm happy you guys opinion doesn't count..Difference between cr7 and hazard; the formal need talents around him to shine while the later makes his team more better with his all round play(he prove this at lille) what did cr7 achieve in sporting lisbon before coming to man united(big club). messi is the god of football, he makes his team look very good with his all round play just like hazard. messi and hazard are the type of players most coaches want in their team. why? they play for the team success and their calmness on the field of play is second non( they are not drama queens). if not for sergio ramos, bale, di maria and marcelo real madrid would have lost to atletico madrid in lats ucl final.

bigkesh:
if henry, pires, makelele, viera and thuram dash u a dirty slap ehn, u brain will reset........

He only scored in both finals and of cos was their best player

Hazard is chelsea best player but of cos Terry, costa, willian and Matic also did well if henry, pires, makelele, viera and thuram dash u a dirty slap ehn, ur brain will reset........

He only scored in both finals and of cos was their best player

Hazard is Chelsea's best player but of cos Terry, costa, willian and Matic also did well

Henry, Pires and the rest are not in d same level as Zidane. There are matches that immortalise a player. I gave Zidane as an example because he has decided great matches and finals. Hazard is in the same class with Pires, Overmars, and other very good wingers who happen to be in big teams.

However, he's not in the same classy wingers like Neymar, Figo, Robben, Ribery, C. Ronaldo. These guys have decided great games on their own.

Dribbles, dribbles, dribbles everytime, yet he has 2 goals from open play in 3 years of UCL action. Even Finidi George has a better stats. Abeg free me.

Debroslink:


Henry, Pires and the rest are not in d same level as Zidane. There are matches that immortalise a player. I gave Zidane as an example because he has decided great matches and finals. Hazard is in the same class with Pires, Overmars, and other very good wingers who happen to be in big teams.

However, he's not in the same classy wingers like Neymar, Figo, Robben, Ribery, C. Ronaldo. These guys have decided great games on their own.

Dribbles, dribbles, dribbles everytime, yet he has 2 goals from open play in 3 years of UCL action. Even Finidi George has a better stats. Abeg free me.

you see how bias you are which great game did figo decide, did he win any trophy with portugal. if you watch figo play hazard is just like modern figo that's, their game is overall play with not much goals to it, neymar?lol most of his goals(97%) this season are tap-in from either suares or messi. you think sport pundit/analyst, legends in the game are stupid to be rating hazard higher than him this season. Lol.... i will keep saying this, a single player can't win trophy team does. there is a big chance that brazil will win next wc unlike belgium.

I just love the excitement on this thread..At the end of the day hazard is a GREAT YOUNG LAD.

A40:

Can we see that of Champions League plix.

I don't know what you mean by Champions League. This is the overall performance of these guys over the season and you're here trying to isolate a particular tournament.

Where you come from sef?

lordfalcao:
A40 nairaland no 1 big fool

Look at this eembecile! Why not shut that sewer you call a mouth if you have nothing intelligent to say. Pendejo

bigkesh:
shut up! Every team played 38 matches in their respective leagues except for some dummy league......... Ucl games arent equal, if u av no way to hate on the rating, then just pass

You are a colossal phool! 38 games against the likes of QPR, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Crystal Palace and other useless teams. So we should award Hazard the best for performances based on a year no EPL team even made it past the second round in any of Europe's elite competitions? You dey craze!

timbros:


I don't know what you mean by Champions League. This is the overall performance of these guys over the season and you're here trying to isolate a particular tournament.

Where you come from sef?

How can you know when your local champion was nowhere to be found among the big boys.

So you want us to ignore Europe's biggest competition and merely focus on performance in the overhyped EPL?

A league that failed badly in elite Europe this year!

I'm sorry can't do that

A40:

How can you know when your local champion was nowhere to be found among the big boys.

So you want us to ignore Europe's biggest competition and merely focus on performance in the overhyped EPL?

A league that failed badly in elite Europe this year!

I'm sorry can't do that

how many years have the Bundesliga been failing before now?

hensben:
you see how bias you are which great game did figo decide, did he win any trophy with portugal. if you watch figo play hazard is just like modern figo that's, their game is overall play with not much goals to it, neymar?lol most of his goals(97%) this season are tap-in from either suares or messi. you think sport pundit/analyst, legends in the game are stupid to be rating hazard higher than him this season. Lol.... i will keep saying this, a single player can't win trophy team does. there is a big chance that brazil will win next wc unlike belgium.

Which great game? I wish I could upload gifs like Coogar. Go and YouTube Madrid vs Manchester United in 2003 @ Bernabeu and check out the world class goal by Figo that Hazard can't ever dream of scoring.
That goal dampened the overall confidence of United players.

Yes, team wins trophies, but players in such teams become an icon in such matches. Ronaldo Lima vs United, Zidane vs Leverkusen, Messi vs United, Neymar vs PSG, C. Ronaldo vs Bayern, Robben vs Barca, etc

Where is the legacy of Hazard? Oh I remember....


2 UCL goals from open play in 3 years.

Debroslink:


Which great game? I wish I could upload gifs like Coogar. Go and YouTube Madrid vs Manchester United in 2003 @ Bernabeu and check out the world class goal by Figo that Hazard can't ever dream of scoring.
That goal dampened the overall confidence of United players.

Yes, team wins trophies, but players in such teams become an icon in such matches. Ronaldo Lima vs United, Zidane vs Leverkusen, Messi vs United, Neymar vs PSG, C. Ronaldo vs Bayern, Robben vs Barca, etc

Where is the legacy of Hazard? Oh I remember....


2 UCL goals from open play in 3 years.

hazard vs man united, hazard vs bayern munich super cup final...he scored 3 goals in ucl yet them rate am pass neymar this season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB58VEwGnpU

Debroslink:


Which great game? I wish I could upload gifs like Coogar. Go and YouTube Madrid vs Manchester United in 2003 @ Bernabeu and check out the world class goal by Figo that Hazard can't ever dream of scoring.
That goal dampened the overall confidence of United players.

Yes, team wins trophies, but players in such teams become an icon in such matches. Ronaldo Lima vs United, Zidane vs Leverkusen, Messi vs United, Neymar vs PSG, C. Ronaldo vs Bayern, Robben vs Barca, etc

Where is the legacy of Hazard? Oh I remember....


2 UCL goals from open play in 3 years.

Ramires vs Barca 2012
Torres vs Barca 2012
yet they didn't make Balon D'or and Chelsea won the UCL
what is now your point?

Maduks88:

Has muller scored up to 10 league goal from open play in the last five year?

Something he was doing before he turned 21?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain why Hazard only has 2 goals from open play for 3 seasons in Chelsea

JigsawKillah:


how many years have the Bundesliga been failing before now?

Of course we've been failing that's why we would soon be 2nd in European coefficient

A40:

Of course we've been failing that's why we would soon be 2nd in European coefficient

soon?
even with the EPL's failure, they're still ahead of the Bundesliga
respect them!

A40:

How can you know when your local champion was nowhere to be found among the big boys.

So you want us to ignore Europe's biggest competition and merely focus on performance in the overhyped EPL?

A league that failed badly in elite Europe this year!

I'm sorry can't do that

Big boys indeed.

OK let me tow your line of argument for a minute. Ronaldo De Lima must be a failure for playing in 5 top teams in Europe across 3 top leagues without a Champions League medal.

And please don't mention World Cup winner because I know that will be your next reply. Messi and C. Ronaldo aren't world cup winners.

SailorXY:

guy eh...
the kind beri-beri wey dey disturb some people no be here oo lmao

bigkesh:
he wont win.... We live in a world of goals....... But clearly, without an shadow of doubt, he z the 3rd....... If were to be in the days where Zidane won d Award without any big number of goals.... All he did was dribble, create chances and control the pitch..... No wonder Zidane was obsessed with Hazard all the way from Lille

preach it bro.. .


Lol

jimmy4x:

Zidane didnt score the most goals, he made the most dribbles nd created the most chances, yet he was celebrated, now dey keep shouting Hazard doesn't score more goals, dey completely ignored the excellent chances he creates nd his dribbles....
lol, these Bayern trolls think dey are intelligent, buh the more dey yarn balls to prove a point against Hazard, the more dey show their stupidity.....watch him, he'll not come back nd reply to this.

Ode ni e. You be oluku!

Zidane has always showed up on the big stage. Deciding big matches UCL and World Cup Finals. What has Hazard done outside the EPL

We have been asking you eediots that question for almost 3 months but no one has been able to answer.

Excellent chances and dribbles against West Brom and Aston Villa is not what puts you in the same pantheon with Zizou and other great players.

How many times do we have to spell it out to this ret@rd?

A40:

Ode ni e. You be oluku!

Zidane has always showed up on the big stage. Deciding big matches UCL and World Cup Finals. What has Hazard done outside the EPL

We have been asking you eediots that question for almost 3 months but no one has been able to answer.

Excellent chances and dribbles against West Brom and Aston Villa is not what puts you in the same pantheon with Zizou and other great players.

How many times do we have to spell it out to this ret@rd?

do you even know zidane became a world class player at age of 25 or 26. hazard is just 24 so chill...ps: i'm not comparing him to zidane because i know that's your next lamentation.

JigsawKillah:

soon?
even with the EPL's failure, they're still ahead of the Bundesliga
respect them!

Starting from next season. Shiii! I bet you didn't even know. Its a cumulative process so your failures are not immediately punished

timbros:

Big boys indeed.

OK let me tow your line of argument for a minute. Ronaldo De Lima must be a failure for playing in 5 top teams in Europe across 3 top leagues without a Champions League medal.

And please don't mention World Cup winner because I know that will be your next reply. Messi and C. Ronaldo aren't world cup winners.

Haha mo daaran! You guys try to defend the failure of Hazard and then of all people you bring out Ronaldo Luis Nazario De Lima (O Fenomeno) to justify it.

Btw Inter, PSV were not big clubs at the time he joined them their records in Europe at the time showed that. He also suffered two massive injuries which robbed him of 2-3 years of his prime at the very least. To remedy that however he won a World Cup and Copa America for his country and is one of the highest scorers of all-time in the World's biggest competition. How this remotely relates his scenario with Hazard is part of what keeps me up at night

Of course I will mention World Cup Winner. Its just one of the many achievements your local champion Hazard will never have. While Messi and Ronaldo don't have a World Cup they can at least boast of 5 Champions League titles between them potentially 6 if Barca beat Juve

Hazard has achieved none of this but somehow people try to use him in the same breath with the all-time greats. Unbelievable

A40:

Look at this eembecile! Why not shut that sewer you call a mouth if you have nothing intelligent to say. Pendejo


You are a colossal phool! 38 games against the likes of QPR, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Crystal Palace and other useless teams. So we should award Hazard the best for performances based on a year no EPL team even made it past the second round in any of Europe's elite competitions? You dey craze!

and what you wrote up here depicts intelligence



you lack one thing


A big sense , make sure you acquire one

A40:

Starting from next season. Shiii! I bet you didn't even know. Its a cumulative process so your failures are not immediately punished


Haha mo daaran! You guys try to defend the failure of Hazard and then of all people you bring out Ronaldo Luis Nazario De Lima (O Fenomeno) to justify it.

Btw Inter, PSV were not big clubs at the time he joined them their records in Europe at the time showed that. He also suffered two massive injuries which robbed him of 2-3 years of his prime at the very least. To remedy that however he won a World Cup and Copa America for his country and is one of the highest scorers of all-time in the World's biggest competition. How this remotely relates his scenario with Hazard is part of what keeps me up at night

Of course I will mention World Cup Winner. Its just one of the many achievements your local champion Hazard will never have. While Messi and Ronaldo don't have a World Cup they can at least boast of 5 Champions League titles between them potentially 6 if Barca beat Juve

Hazard has achieved none of this but somehow people try to use him in the same breath with the all-time greats. Unbelievable

The problem with you guys is, when one mentions a particular player, you will jump to the conclusion that Hazard is being compared to the mentioned player, ignoring the context of the example given.

Below is your earlier comment why you feel Hazard is a failure.

A40:

How can you know when your local champion was nowhere to be found among the big boys.

So you want us to ignore Europe's biggest competition and merely focus on performance in the overhyped EPL?

A league that failed badly in elite Europe this year!

I'm sorry can't do that

Notice the bolded. You want us to focus on Europe biggest competition then rate Hazard. I had to give you an example of a LEGEND of the game who failed in that elite competition showing you that you don't have to isolate one particular competition to rate a player.

Context bro, context.

I asked you not to mention world Cup because you want us to FOCUS on "Europe's biggest competition". Or is world Cup or copa America now Europe's biggest competition?

I was in no way comparing Hazard's career to Ronaldo De Lima (I dey crase?) but I was trying to focus on what you asked me to focus on.

I hope I have cleared that. Good. Now let's go back again.

Does Ronaldo's woeful performance in Europe’s biggest competition makes him a failure? (woeful yes, because a player of his calibre in Europe should have at least ONE champions League medal).

#campaign-against-chelsea
Messi's son thiago messi did this no one said a word
But diego shitsta did this and they want to ban him
Chelsea fans how market?

the guy above me shaaa

how some people reason through their anus oh why ? maybe they need their pastors to tell them how good/talented hazard is before they can get it into their dull brain.

timbros:


The problem with you guys is, when one mentions a particular player, you will jump to the conclusion that Hazard is being compared to the mentioned player, ignoring the context of the example given.

Below is your earlier comment why you feel Hazard is a failure.

Notice the bolded. You want us to focus on Europe biggest competition then rate Hazard. I had to give you an example of a LEGEND of the game who failed in that elite competition showing you that you don't have to isolate one particular competition to rate a player.

Context bro, context.

I asked you not to mention world Cup because you want us to FOCUS on "Europe's biggest competition". Or is world Cup or copa America now Europe's biggest competition?

I was in no way comparing Hazard's career to Ronaldo De Lima (I dey crase?) but I was trying to focus on what you asked me to focus on.

I hope I have cleared that. Good. Now let's go back again.

Does Ronaldo's woeful performance in Europe’s biggest competition makes him a failure? (woeful yes, because a player of his calibre in Europe should have at least ONE champions League medal).

You're just knowing?

The last time I made a sarcastic analogy with Matthaus, the nigga was quick to accuse me of comparing his god with JT.

Actually, this is what happens when someone is sentiment-ridden. You're up against the most emotional figures this forum have got

According to the warped assertion of my friend 40, anyone International and UCL success eludes is definitely a local champion.

I'm sure lbrahimovic and Nedved are having a hell of a laugh now

Forum heavyweights.

lordfalcao:
and what you wrote up here depicts intelligence



you lack one thing


A big sense , make sure you acquire one

My friend shut up if you have nothing coherent to say. Weyrey call am 'A big sense' What a phoolish ewok!

If you cannot contribute anything cogent to this argument why not have a coke and a smile and STFU

Ibime:
Man it's going to be a long summer with certain niggas on our thread.

The simple reason is that Bayern thread is dull, so they periodically latch on to Arsenal, Chelsea or Manure thread.

2008-2011 when Arsenal thread was popping, Dayo was permanently based there, taunting and trolling. He always had respect for Chelsea then because Bayern were our sons in Europe.

2012-13, he relocated to Manure thread, now Chelsea thread is popping, he has relocated again.

The same Dayo that could never say 'pim' about Chelsea before, infact he was always praising us. All it took was for Pep to move to Bayern and the ninja who claimed he always loved Juventus and Chelsea style of solid football started telling us stories about tiki taka.

The only reason I "liked" Chelsea hen was because they were a threat to Man Utd who were Bayerns rival in Europe

Just like I "like" Atletico now because they are a threat to Madrid our European rivals

But when some Chelsea twats started in their own mind thinking they are anywhere close to Bayern thats where we draw a distinction.

Why would I say anything about Chelsea when they are a very inferior club? Do you hear me saying anything about Spurs or Aston Villa?

I started paying attention in 2011 during AVB era because of the falsehood nateevs was spewing and I announced it publicly that was wen I discovered that the Chelsea thread housed more ignoramus than even the Arsenal threas

Lol Thats because most times he keeps to the Chelsea thread where few people would challenge him.

In the last few weeks he has been found out to be a guffanti and I promised him I would pay more attention to this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/673205/official-chelsea-fan-thread-home/65#9442481

dayokanu:


I started paying attention to the Chelsea thread like a year ago and found numerous falsehood that nateevs has been pending for years unchallenged. This is someone who cant take a position.

His views on AVB We saw how that brand of football ended in Cheslea
His views on RDM We saw how RDM went on to win the double with the same players he said was finished
His view on how MAZACAR would improve Torres We now see how that has done so far
His views on torres everyone can see how wrong he has been all these while

My own argument has been consistent and i have been vindicated several times on issues which I argued strongly about like AVB, RDM, Torres

Where does Nateevs stand? No one knows and now he is back to clutching at straws

timbros:

Notice the bolded. You want us to focus on Europe biggest competition then rate Hazard. I had to give you an example of a LEGEND of the game who failed in that elite competition showing you that you don't have to isolate one particular competition to rate a player.

Context bro, context.

I asked you not to mention world Cup because you want us to FOCUS on "Europe's biggest competition". Or is world Cup or copa America now Europe's biggest competition?

I was in no way comparing Hazard's career to Ronaldo De Lima (I dey crase?) but I was trying to focus on what you asked me to focus on.

I hope I have cleared that. Good. Now let's go back again.

Does Ronaldo's woeful performance in Europe’s biggest competition makes him a failure? (woeful yes, because a player of his calibre in Europe should have at least ONE champions League medal).

In football, the biggest trophies are the WOrldcup, Champions league, EUro cup in that order

If a player can dominate a world cup then its senseless to ask about what he would do in FA cup. Like a man who wins the Olympics 100m dash and next thing you are asking why didnt he win his High school 100m

Ronaldo Lima, Pele, Maradona dominated world cups and its senseless for anyone to start asking why they didnt win lesser competitions like CL, Europa League etc

All top players would point to a high point in their career, WOrld cup wins, CL wins, Euro cup wins, CL finals appearance, World cup finals appearance etc.

WHat does Hazard have to show

timbros:


The problem with you guys is, when one mentions a particular player, you will jump to the conclusion that Hazard is being compared to the mentioned player, ignoring the context of the example given.

Below is your earlier comment why you feel Hazard is a failure.

No I'm not ignoring the context. I'm telling you that the game has changed. With guys like Messi, Mueller and Ronaldo shining in the league and UCL year in year out you cannot produce performances in the league alone as proof of dominance

Hazard is so far a failure because he has no achievements of note outside the EPL. None, zilch, nada

Ronaldo scored 16 goals in 5 seasons of CL competition. Hazard has 5 in 3 seasons. Only 2 from open play! This is abysmal and such player has no business dining with the elite

timbros:

Notice the bolded. You want us to focus on Europe biggest competition then rate Hazard. I had to give you an example of a LEGEND of the game who failed in that elite competition showing you that you don't have to isolate one particular competition to rate a player.

Context bro, context.

Because I understand Hazard does not come from a footballing superpower which is why I'm not even accounting performances for country (which have been abysmal by the way). If I don't rate him based on the CL what should I rate him on? EPL performances alone? Taa

timbros:

I asked you not to mention world Cup because you want us to FOCUS on "Europe's biggest competition". Or is world Cup or copa America now Europe's biggest competition?

I was in no way comparing Hazard's career to Ronaldo De Lima (I dey crase?) but I was trying to focus on what you asked me to focus on.

Again you are the one not understanding the 'context' how can you tell me not to mention the World Cup. I listed guys like Neymar and Mueller among the big boys because they are tried and tested in International competition

Neymar: 4 goals in the WC, 13 in the CL
Mueller: 10 goals in the WC, 28 in the CL. World Champion, CL Champion
Hazard: 5 goals in 3 seasons of CL, only two from open play, nothing in the WC
Ronaldo: 16 goals in 5 seasons of CL, 15 goals in the WC, World Champion

So tell me why and what business Hazard has in being listed with any of these guys? Either for club or country he has achieved nothing!!!

timbros:

I hope I have cleared that. Good. Now let's go back again.

Does Ronaldo's woeful performance in Europe’s biggest competition makes him a failure? (woeful yes, because a player of his calibre in Europe should have at least ONE champions League medal).

No you have cleared nothing, of course Ronaldo might not have lived up to his high standard in elite Europe but he still had 36 goals in all European competitions. 16 in the CL alone (only 1 PK)

If you consider he tore his knee twice before his 2nd season in the CL then you would recognize his achievements were respectable

However you cannot tell me that a Hazard with no record to boast of outside the EPL is in the same class with the Mueller's, Neymar's.

JigsawKillah:


soon?
even with the EPL's failure, they're still ahead of the Bundesliga
respect them!

Lol. This man is behind the news sha.

I have to educate you EPL tossers everytime

From AUgust EPL is 3rd in UEFA ranking behind the Bundesliga and they can fall to fourth by 2016 behind the Serie A if Italy has another great year