Radoillo:



The traditions that I am familiar with say that the Ugwuta people were part of the Umuezechime migration from Benin (or Agbor) through the Aniocha area of Delta to Onitsha. After the leader of the Ugwuta group lost the leadership tussle to Chimaefi, leader of the Onitsha group, the Ugwuta group decided to leave Onitsha to the present site of Ugwuta.

This, at least, is what the tradition relates. There may be other traditions that tell the story differently, but I haven't yet encountered them.

I have my reservations about this Aniocha-to-Onitsha-to-Ugwuta traditions however, especially because Ugwuta dialect doesn't sound quite like Onitsha-Aniocha, but sounds almost exactly like what you would hear in the Ukwuani-Aboh-Ndoni area. This suggests to me that the ancestors of the Ugwuta people probably came from that area - the Ukwuani-Aboh area. In some of my discussions with Abagworo (who I believe to be from the Ugwuta area) I said - and I think he agreed - that Ugwuta is basically an Ukwuani dialect. The same is true for Ndoni. In a sense, Ndoni and Ugwuta could be said to be 'Ndokwa' communities on the other side of the Niger River.

Now I can't wait to hear an Ukwuani or Ndoni person speak. Biko they should give us Urashi State. *sticks tongue out*

Thanks for the info, Radiollo. Much respect.

tonychristopher:
My brother you asked a very good question, in igbo land we migrated from some areas, I am an anambra man but my grand father told me that we migrated from some part in imo state, u know why i used ndokwa is that i wanted the ukwuani to understand that they speak the same igbo dialect with some part of imo state especially uguta 1 and 2 which includes egbuoma and which is few minutes drive from owerri. I am owerri born boy married an ukwuani woman and i have uguta friend even my kid brother wife is from uguta 1

now when i talk i talk with fact...most villages that have names around places have origin from those places..take a look okuzu in ukwuani they are from awkuzu in present day anambra, but there are execption to this rule like port harchourt...that doesnt mean that they are from England but they have English influence so was Benin empire, they had many influence in some parts of igbo land, mind you noyt all. these influences is in periphereal part of igbo land so for you have umudei ..that means that the village is the children of dei and must have migrated from present day delta igbo and delta igbo havingg benin inflence must have carried some of their nuances and culture with them when migrating...never you under estimate the power of colonialism so the term iyasara came into been suh like we have ichafu for head scaff in igbo land...but ichafu is not an igbo word it is from european word meaning la chiffon a kind of material


Ukwuani and Uguta have same dialect and are kins the same way onitsha miri and asab have same dialect...just like looking into owerri migration and Agbor...you will understand that Agbor speaks the same dialect with Owerri just that a little benin inflence also



Ndoni and Ndokwa land speaks same dialect of Igbo which include uguta and that was why I categorized them same just like Ohaji, Egbema, Etche and possibly Ikwerre speaks same dialect which includes a bit of izombe and elele side....i am vast with dialects and i can categoricall speak upto 6 igbo dialects seamlessly


dalu nwanne

nice question

I am from Ugwuta 1. Amaeshi ... Obodo giro giri.

Mbona, nyirita'm. I ghotara ife'm kwuru?

BTW, I am female

Phut:

I am from Ugwuta 1. Amaeshi ... Obodo giro giri.
Mbona, nyirita'm. I ghotara ife'm kwuru?
BTW, I am female

Biko translate ya mbona.....

Ihuomadinihu:

Biko translate ya mbona.....

So you understand what Mbona means. Egbema people say Mbola. Same word - slightly different pronounciation.

Nyirita'm = Nwanne'm

Ugwuta people also say Nwanne'm but pronounce it as Nyanne'm. In other words, the N is pronounced the way you pronounce the N in Anara (garden egg)

Amaeshi is the nickname given to Ugwuta by its proud sons and daughters

Obodo giri giri = Obodo na kwu Ike

Phut:


So you understand what Mbona means. Egbema people say Mbola. Same word - slightly different pronounciation.

Nyirita'm = Nwanne'm

Ugwuta people also say Nwanne'm but pronounce it as Nyanne'm. In other words, the N is pronounced the way you pronounce the N in Anara (garden egg)

Amaeshi is the nickname given to Ugwuta by its proud sons and daughters

Obodo giri giri = Obodo na kwu Ike

I'm unfamiliar with the way they speak in Egbema, but let me make an educated guess, based on the little information I have on Ukwuani speech.

Mbona = Mbene = Thank you.

How close am I?

Radoillo:


I'm unfamiliar with the way they speak in Egbema, but let me make an educated guess, based on the little information I have on Ukwuani speech.

Mbona = Mbene = Thank you.

How close am I?

You're spot on.

oboy3:
how do you know the one which is ancient and the recent one?

Traditions.

Mrval20:
Umu Nsukka Asadu, unu eme aga?

A tu m ngege!!
E speaki lekwe

OdenigboAroli:

Traditions.

i dont understand,pls expanciate,,

ogo m

nne kedu ka idi

Phut:


I am from Ugwuta 1. Amaeshi ... Obodo giro giri.

Mbona, nyirita'm. I ghotara ife'm kwuru?

BTW, I am female

is he on point..do they use mbene also in egbuoma and oguta 1

Phut:


You're spot on.

Its only you and bigfrancis21 can know this ..pls my area in anambra the igbo ukwu, amichi, osumenyi.ukpo and those nnewi zones have different dialects but to a non anambra they will think it is the common anambra but we from that zone (Nnewi South) have a peculiar way of speaking kind of dragging and sing song anambra dialect..it sounds like they are dragging igbo and singing it..though it is going extinct only old people can speak my village and igbo ukwu dialect fluently we the young ones speak the common anambra language

if you have heard a typical igbo ukwu, ichida, amichi and osumenyi dude speak....what dialect is that


biko tunye onu na ihea

Radoillo:



The traditions that I am familiar with say that the Ugwuta people were part of the Umuezechime migration from Benin (or Agbor) through the Aniocha area of Delta to Onitsha. After the leader of the Ugwuta group lost the leadership tussle to Chimaefi, leader of the Onitsha group, the Ugwuta group decided to leave Onitsha to the present site of Ugwuta.

This, at least, is what the tradition relates. There may be other traditions that tell the story differently, but I haven't yet encountered them.

I have my reservations about this Aniocha-to-Onitsha-to-Ugwuta traditions however, especially because Ugwuta dialect doesn't sound quite like Onitsha-Aniocha, but sounds almost exactly like what you would hear in the Ukwuani-Aboh-Ndoni area. This suggests to me that the ancestors of the Ugwuta people probably came from that area - the Ukwuani-Aboh area. In some of my discussions with Abagworo (who I believe to be from the Ugwuta area) I said - and I think he agreed - that Ugwuta is basically an Ukwuani dialect. The same is true for Ndoni. In a sense, Ndoni and Ugwuta could be said to be 'Ndokwa' communities on the other side of the Niger River.

tonychristopher:
Its only you and bigfrancis21 can know this ..pls my area in anambra the igbo ukwu, amichi, osumenyi.ukpo and those nnewi zones have different dialects but to a non anambra they will think it is the common anambra but we from that zone (Nnewi South) have a peculiar way of speaking kind of dragging and sing song anambra dialect..it sounds like they are dragging igbo and singing it..though it is going extinct only old people can speak my village and igbo ukwu dialect fluently we the young ones speak the common anambra language

if you have heard a typical igbo ukwu, ichida, amichi and osumenyi dude speak....what dialect is that


biko tunye onu na ihea

I haven't heard people from any of the towns you mentioned speak their native tongue , to be honest. But based on the region you mentioned (Nnewi South), I suspect that the dialect you are referring to is probably the Orsu lect.

The Orsu 'subethnic group' are found not only in Nnewi South, but also some towns in Ihiala LGA. They also spread into the northern part of Imo, and are found in Orsu LGA, as well as some communities in Orlu LGA.

Can you type a few sentences and their meanings in this dialect?

Radoillo:


I haven't heard people from any of the towns you mentioned speak their native tongue , to be honest. But based on the region you mentioned (Nnewi South), I suspect that the dialect you are referring to is probably the Orsu lect.

The Orsu 'subethnic group' are found not only in Nnewi South, but also some towns in Ihiala LGA. They also spread into the northern part of Imo, and are found in Orsu LGA, as well as some communities in Orlu LGA.

Can you type a few sentences and their meanings in this dialect?

no

It is not orsu...I am imo born and i know orsu ...it is unique with some elements of central igbo and anambra then unique lect..i am from there and I know what i am saying

The dialect is funny but nice ..have you heard an amichi or nnewi ichi igbo ukwu speak ...u will undetstand

Radoillo:


I haven't heard people from any of the towns you mentioned speak their native tongue , to be honest. But based on the region you mentioned (Nnewi South), I suspect that the dialect you are referring to is probably the Orsu lect.

The Orsu 'subethnic group' are found not only in Nnewi South, but also some towns in Ihiala LGA. They also spread into the northern part of Imo, and are found in Orsu LGA, as well as some communities in Orlu LGA.

Can you type a few sentences and their meanings in this dialect?

Pure amichi and igbo ukwu will say
O nge .....what is it
Nwehi......now
Ome angha..how are you


I just cant speak it...this few I can speak ..wasnt born in village did grow up in imo so
This few I can say

Where do place Asaba, my mother's hometown? They speak Ibo too

tonychristopher:
Its only you and bigfrancis21 can know this ..pls my area in anambra the igbo ukwu, amichi, osumenyi.ukpo and those nnewi zones have different dialects but to a non anambra they will think it is the common anambra but we from that zone (Nnewi South) have a peculiar way of speaking kind of dragging and sing song anambra dialect..it sounds like they are dragging igbo and singing it..though it is going extinct only old people can speak my village and igbo ukwu dialect fluently we the young ones speak the common anambra language

if you have heard a typical igbo ukwu, ichida, amichi and osumenyi dude speak....what dialect is that


biko tunye onu na ihea

I have a brother from another mother from Nnewi and he tells me that the original Nnewi dialect is quite thick and is commonly heard only amongst the elderly. That only the older folks can speak the original Nnewi dialect and that the younger generation speak the general anambra dialect, with some southern Igbo words here and there.

I remember one Nnewi word 'fondua', but I don't remember again what it means.

christopher123:


no

It is not orsu...I am imo born and i know orsu ...[b]it is unique with some elements of central igbo and anambra then unique lec[/b]t..i am from there and I know what i am saying

The dialect is funny but nice ..have you heard an amichi or nnewi ichi igbo ukwu speak ...u will undetstand

@bold...which dialect are you referring to? The Orsu or Nnewi dialect?

EXACTLY ...my brother


Nnewi Axis have this dialect that people dont know...it is thick and it is spoken from Igbo ukwu Amichi, Awka Etiti, Ichida, Orsumeanyi and Utuh ..If you are from anambra you will know this axis


I know that it is going extinct and to be honest I cant speak it, not that i dont want but i dont know how to and most old folks are dying and they know how to spaek it...we just speak the ordinary anambra igbo but that is pathetic

but mind you we speak almost like orlu/orsu region not same

we used to say

o nge for ogine
nwehi for ugbua

etc

bigfrancis21:


I have a brother from another mother from Nnewi and he tells me that the original Nnewi dialect is quite thick and is commonly heard only amongst the elderly. That only the older folks can speak the original Nnewi dialect and that the younger generation speak the general anambra dialect, with some southern Igbo words here and there.

I remember one Nnewi word 'fondua', but I don't remember again what it means.

Asaba , onitsha, obosi speaks alike....so that is not debateable

MrBully:
Where do place Asaba, my mother's hometown? They speak Ibo too

tonychristopher:
Asaba , onitsha, obosi speaks alike....so that is not debateable

Ok

are you from there

MrBully:

Ok

tonychristopher:
are you from there

My father is Ijaw, my mom Asaba

I am thinking that the bonny and those island igbo speak unevolved igbo... you know igbo is becoming eveloved and where do you think speak the unevolved igbo


maybe the rquitorial guinea igbo migrants

what is your take

bigfrancis21:


@bold...which dialect are you referring to? The Orsu or Nnewi dialect?

ok..that is nice..is it ijaw delta or rivers or bayelsa

MrBully:

My father is Ijaw, my mom Asaba

tonychristopher:
ok..that is nice..is it ijaw delta or rivers or bayelsa

Ijaw Bayelsa, Kalabari

christopher123:


Pure amichi and igbo ukwu will say
O nge .....what is it
Nwehi......now
Ome angha..how are you


I just cant speak it...this few I can speak ..wasnt born in village did grow up in imo so
This few I can say

Hmm. Interesting.

Well, I wouldn't want to speak too firmly about something that I don't know too much about. But I know that in the Orsu tongue, ngee is also gini. You know in the Orsu area of Imo State, many people are no longer able to converse in their original tongue, and now speak what we may now loosely refer to as 'Central Igbo'. Maybe that's why you haven't observed the similarity between the dialect of Nnewi South and Orsu in Imo.

What parts of Imo did you used to live in?

tonychristopher:
Its only you and bigfrancis21 can know this ..pls my area in anambra the igbo ukwu, amichi, osumenyi.ukpo and those nnewi zones have different dialects but to a non anambra they will think it is the common anambra but we from that zone (Nnewi South) have a peculiar way of speaking kind of dragging and sing song anambra dialect..it sounds like they are dragging igbo and singing it..though it is going extinct only old people can speak my village and igbo ukwu dialect fluently we the young ones speak the common anambra language

if you have heard a typical igbo ukwu, ichida, amichi and osumenyi dude speak....what dialect is that


biko tunye onu na ihea

your part of nnewi drag word like my ekwulobia guy does,even igbo-nkwo(igbo ukwu) too,word like shop he pronounces as shooopu as if he is singing it,,lol

lol your so correct ...like bread ...we drag it like breeeeedi and that dialect is unique to us...it sounds as if we are singing


lol..but it is going extinct or it has gone extinct

oboy3:
your part of nnewi drag word like my ekwulobia guy does,even igbo-nkwo(igbo ukwu) too,word like shop he pronounces as shooopu as if he is singing it,,lol

[quote author=Radoillo post=34389760]

Hmm. Interesting.

Well, I wouldn't want to speak too firmly about something that I don't know too much about. But I know that in the Orsu tongue, ngee is also gini. You know in the Orsu area of Imo State, many people are no longer able to converse in their original tongue, and now speak what we may now loosely refer to as 'Central Igbo'. Maybe that's why you haven't observed the similarity between the dialect of Nnewi South and Orsu in Imo.

What parts of Imo did you used to live in?[/quote owerri bro

do u have dilacects in bayelsa and is it true that goodluck aint ijaw

MrBully:

Ijaw Bayelsa, Kalabari

tonychristopher:
lol your so correct ...like bread ...we drag it like breeeeedi and that dialect is unique to us...it sounds as if we are singing


lol..but it is going extinct or it has gone extinct

yes,i havent seen any younger person speaking that way,only people in their 40s and 50s ftom there that speak that wAy ,its sad really