raumdeuter:

AT age 24, Ronaldo had only played 1 season of CL football, that was in the days fewer teams were in the competition

WHen ROnaldo checks his collections he sees before age 24

2 World player of the year awards, 1 Ballon D or, Top scorer in Spanish League, Top scorer in DUtch league, World cup runner up, European golden boot, etc

WHich of these can we say for Pius Ikedia Hazard

We are focusing on "biggest European competition" not some other leagues.

Keep on track please.

raumdeuter:


So what should we measure them by when Neymar takes Hazard to school in terms of productivity aka goals?

Maybe blind alley dribbles, haircut or tattooes?

We measure them by there overall performance. Don't tell me you don't know what overall performance is.

A40:

He has already won a double in only his 2nd year in Europe. Gunning for a treble

9 goals in the Champions League. Almost double of Hazard's total in 1 year

4 goals in one WC to Hazard's none. I will not even go to their overall goalscoring records for country because the gulf is embarrassing

Any competition you want to use Mueller and Neymar destroy Hazard and the margin is very wide

He won the double in Europe’s biggest competition?

parrotibaba:
Modified!! Sorry thought it was cr7

No.

It's the Brazilian Ronaldo.

timbros:


We are focusing on "biggest European competition" not some other leagues.

Keep on track please.

Like Balon D or, Like World player of the year or what can we use Hazard to compare?

timbros:


We measure them by there overall performance. Don't tell me you don't know what overall performance is.

Both are attackers, and attackers are measured by output
. Neymar murders Hazard when we check their output

So whats this overall performance? Is it their dressing or boot color

timbros:


He won the double in Europe’s biggest competition?

Neymar already won his league and national cup. He is playing the CL finals in a few days thats a stage Hazrad has never played

Nawa o, Hazard has suffered, I can't wait for the Ballon D'or shortlist to be released...

jimmy4x:
Nawa o, Hazard has suffered, I can't wait for the Ballon D'or shortlist to be released...

i taya o, d day or year hazard will take d ballon d'or even 3rd position some people will die of bad belle

bigkesh:
u are a pure blockhead..... Nd Manuel Neuer keeps against who?? Hamburg and kolns? When he got exposed to real attackers we all saw how mignolet he was, robben and ribery play against who? Gotze is a big stage flop playing against who

Dnt tell me trash oga......

Your ignorance has gotten to a nuclear stage! Someone that shutout Ronaldo, Benzema and Messi at the last World Cup na him you dey compare to Hazard?

Let us reel out Neuer's laurels and compare it with Hazard's. Efulefu

Mario Goetze was deciding World Cup Finals and helping Dortmund to a CL Final at 22

Robbery led Bayern to 3 CL Finals.

Your delusion must be Tony Tetuila cos it has no remedy

timbros:

He won the double in Europe’s biggest competition?

Se o mu Orijin yo ni? What does this question even mean?

A40:

Your ignorance has gotten to a nuclear stage! Someone that shutout Ronaldo, Benzema and Messi at the last World Cup na him you dey compare to Hazard?

Let us reel out Neuer's laurels and compare it with Hazard's. Efulefu

Mario Goetze was deciding World Cup Finals and helping Dortmund to a CL Final at 22

Robbery led Bayern to 3 CL Finals.

Your delusion must be Tony Tetuila cos it has no remedy

gotze with 1 goal won the world cup for Germany? Robben led bayern to 3 CL finals, 2 of which he blew himself.....

. Using Dayo's rubbish logic, what is robben's biggest game ever? Wc final, how did he perform? Gifted spain the trophy.......
Whats schurrle biggest game? How did he perform? 1 assist.....

Schurrle >robben

Chestar5:


i taya o, d day or year hazard will take d ballon d'or even 3rd position some people will die of bad belle

Azzzzin, dey can never speak well of Hazard even if he win 5 world cups nd CL trophy...
buh who cares, all my concern is for him to keep improving nd still remain with Chelsea.

raumdeuter:


Neymar 13 CL goals in 2 seasons average 6.5 goals per season
Muller 28 CL goals in 6 seasons average 5 goals per season
Bale 9 CL goals in 3 seasons average 3 goals per season
Reus 10 CL goals in 3 seasons average 3.3 per season
Gotze 9 CL goals in 4 seasons average 2.25

HAZARD 5 CL goals in 4 seasons average 1.2 goals per season and 0.5 goals from open play per season

^^^ That above is the definition of failure

hazard first season with chelsea they were eliminated in group stage, 2nd season they got to semi and now his third season round16 compare to bayern and barca for same 3 seasons who always got semi or final. so its not hazard's fault, chelsea as a club have been on a rebuilding process after winning ucl munich...common sense.

homesteady:
Bigkesh delete that screenshot from your phone, go to Squawka and get an updated version

Hazard compared with his fellow mates!

he is only very slightly behind Neymar with the total score!! Who scored a huge number of goals being an attacker for Barcelona..... So what else are u talking about, put up ronaldo with hazard and james nd he is going to win despite only winning the goals score criterion.....
But as a United fan i expect u to ignore, show us the updated version of hazard, ronaldo and messi

raumdeuter:


Neymar 13 CL goals in 2 seasons average 6.5 goals per season
Muller 28 CL goals in 6 seasons average 5 goals per season
Bale 9 CL goals in 3 seasons average 3 goals per season
Reus 10 CL goals in 3 seasons average 3.3 per season
Gotze 9 CL goals in 4 seasons average 2.25

HAZARD 5 CL goals in 4 seasons average 1.2 goals per season and 0.5 goals from open play per season

^^^ That above is the definition of failure

Leave them let them keep overhyping Azadus like TAN folks did with GEJ

Ibime:


2004 to 2012, Bayern were our sons in Europe.
.

This is like a Juve fan bragging to a Madrid fan when the UCL title ratio is 5:1. If say na AC Milan wey get 7 I for even hear

Your sons? Say whaaat

raumdeuter:


Both are attackers, and attackers are measured by output
. Neymar murders Hazard when we check their output

So whats this overall performance? Is it their dressing or boot color

hazard LMF, neymar LWF..spot the difference...one is to play-make, create chances for his team while the other enjoy tap-in from either suarez or messi.

raumdeuter:


Both are attackers, and attackers are measured by output
. Neymar murders Hazard when we check their output

So whats this overall performance? Is it their dressing or boot color

Neymar is an attacker in Barca's 4-3-3 formation whereas Hazard is a midfielder in Chelsea's 4-2-3-1 formation.

You don't measure them by only attack attack attack. This argument started from Lahm's choice of a complete player and he mentioned some name which comprises of both attackers, midfielders and even a goalkeeper.

So talking of Hazard and Neymar, who is the most complete player between the two? That's when overall performance comes into play. Judge for yourself.

BTW read this article with an unbiased mind (that is if you can)

www.soccersouls.com/2015/02/03/industrious-hazard-chelsea-vs-explosive-neymar-barcelona-who-is-a-better-winger/

hensben:
hazard first season with chelsea they were eliminated in group stage, 2nd season they got to semi and now his third season round16 compare to bayern and barca for same 3 seasons who always got semi or final. so its not hazard's fault, chelsea as a club have been on a rebuilding process after winning ucl munich...common sense.

Was hazard not one of Chelseas main players that was expected to deliver for them in those 3 yrs. WHen he was delivering 2 goals from open play why wont Chelsea be terrible?

Mullers and Neymar goals got their teams to the CL finals.

Muller scored 3 goals in the semi vs Barca to get Bayern to the finals
Neymar scored 3 goals in the semi vs Bayern to get Barca to the finals

Hazard was responsible for Chelseas loss in the CL semi finals that denied them a place in the finals

bigkesh:
he is only very slightly behind Neymar with the total score!! Who scored a huge number of goals being an attacker for Barcelona..... So what else are u talking about, put up ronaldo with hazard and james nd he is going to win despite only winning the goals score criterion.....

So Hazard was a defender for Chelsea?

My friend look at it well, Neymar beats hazard in goals, assist and total score! And Neymar wasn't even the star man of his team oh

bigkesh:
gotze with 1 goal won the world cup for Germany? Robben led bayern to 3 CL finals, 2 of which he blew himself.....

. Using Dayo's rubbish logic, what is robben's biggest game ever? Wc final, how did he perform? Gifted spain the trophy.......
Whats schurrle biggest game? How did he perform? 1 assist.....

Schurrle >robben

Odensin Goetze scored 2 goals.

He blew us two but won us one. At all at all na him bad

He redeemed himself by winning Bayern the Champions League.

Robben CL winner, 3x Finalist. World Cup Finalist

Only a buffoon would suggest Schuerrle is better than him

The question everyone is dodging is why is Hazard nowhere to be found both for club and country

hensben:
hazard LMF, neymar LWF..spot the difference...one is to play-make, create chances for his team while the other enjoy tap-in from either suarez or messi.

Keep bringing the excuses let me be shooting it down

Neymar 2 seasons with Barca, Hazard 3 seasons with Chelsea

Neymar 13 CL goals, Hazard 5 CL goals (3 penalties)

Neymar 6 CL assists, Hazard 6 CL assists

So give me the next excuse let me blow it out sharp sharp

In 2 seasons Neymar has matched Hazards total assists and more than doubled his goals output in the CL

timbros:


Neymar is an attacker in Barca's 4-3-3 formation whereas Hazard is a midfielder in Chelsea's 4-2-3-1 formation.

You don't measure them by only attack attack attack. This argument started from Lahm's choice of a complete player and he mentioned some name which comprises of both attackers, midfielders and even a goalkeeper.

So talking of Hazard and Neymar, who is the most complete player between the two? That's when overall performance comes into play. Judge for yourself.

BTW read this article with an unbiased mind (that is if you can)

www.soccersouls.com/2015/02/03/industrious-hazard-chelsea-vs-explosive-neymar-barcelona-who-is-a-better-winger/

Output says
Neymar 13 goals 6 CL assists in 2 seasons for Barca
Hazard 5 goals (3PK) and 6 assists in 3 seasons for Chelsea

Instead of focusing on the main output go and bring me another article that says Hazard is better than Quaresma

Hazard has scored 7 goals in 54 games for Belgium, and guess the countries he scored against ------
Kazakhstan, Montenegro, Slovakia, Macedonia(2 in 2games), Sweden and Cyprus!

A40:

Se o mu Orijin yo ni? What does this question even mean?

Whatever that means... Back to sender

What brings about Neymar's double in Spain when you asked me to leave Hazard's EPL season and focus on "Europe biggest competition"? As if Hazard doesn't have his own double in England. Is that how biased you guys are?

I expect to see Neymar's number of trophies in Europe’s biggest competition.

A40:

The question everyone is dodging is why is Hazard nowhere to be found both for club and country

Ask them what is Hazards selling point, Answer he knows how to dribble, Not score, Not assist but fuckingg dribble just like Quaresma, Belarabi, Denilson and Pius Ikedia

timbros:


Whatever that means... Back to sender

What brings about Neymar's double in Spain when you asked me to leave Hazard's EPL season and focus on "Europe biggest competition"? As if Hazard doesn't have his own double in England. Is that how biased you guys are?

I expect to see Neymar's number of trophies in Europe’s biggest competition.

Neymar is in Europe's biggest competition final within 2 seasons in Europe, Hazard has never made the competition finals the only chance he had of making it, he let his team down.

Worst case scenario by Saturday Neymar would have a runners up medal in addition to his 13 goals. WHat does Hazard have in Europes biggest tournament

raumdeuter:


In football, the biggest trophies are the WOrldcup, Champions league, EUro cup in that order

If a player can dominate a world cup then its senseless to ask about what he would do in FA cup. Like a man who wins the Olympics 100m dash and next thing you are asking why didnt he win his High school 100m

Ronaldo Lima, Pele, Maradona dominated world cups and its senseless for anyone to start asking why they didnt win lesser competitions like CL, Europa League etc

All top players would point to a high point in their career, WOrld cup wins, CL wins, Euro cup wins, CL finals appearance, World cup finals appearance etc.

WHat does Hazard have to show

your example about a man who won olympics 100m dash is flawed why? football is a team sport unlike a MAN...there is no way ronaldo de lima or pele or zidane can play against 11 players without the help of his remaining team mate. before the emergence of hazard when last did belgium as a nation win a trophy... individual award is what is been use in this context and hazard is there with his peers if not above them already. his peers are neymar, pogba, bale, et al (excluding messi and cr7).

raumdeuter:


Neymar is in Europe's biggest competition final within 2 seasons in Europe, Hazard has never made the competition finals the only chance he had of making it, he let his team down.

Worst case scenario by Saturday Neymar would have a runners up medal in addition to his 13 goals. WHat does Hazard have in Europes biggest tournament

hazard had europa cup medal already, definitely he will get ucl medal that i'm very sure of.

raumdeuter:


Output says
Neymar 13 goals 6 CL assists in 2 seasons for Barca
Hazard 5 goals (3PK) and 6 assists in 3 seasons for Chelsea

Instead of focusing on the main output go and bring me another article that says Hazard is better than Quaresma

Keep on hating on Hazard when everyone knows he is better than Neymar based on overall performance.

This is what EVEN Barca fans in their forum have to say about both players... and you are here hating.

hensben:
your example about a man who won olympics 100m dash is flawed why? football is a team sport unlike a MAN...there is no way ronaldo de lima or pele or zidane can play against 11 players without the help of his remaining team mate. before the emergence of hazard when last did belgium as a nation win a trophy... individual award is what is been use in this context and hazard is there with his peers if not above them already. his peers are neymar, pogba, bale, et al (excluding messi and cr7).

Individual honours

Muller 5th Balon D or, World cup golden boot, World cup young player of the year 2010
Neymar 13 CL goals, 6 assists.
Pogba Best young player at the world cup 2014
Bale UEFA team of the year

Note those are individual achievements won in international/continental settings not local league. Neymar I ommited everything he won in South America

A40:

My friend shut up if you have nothing coherent to say. Weyrey call am 'A big sense' What a phoolish ewok!

If you cannot contribute anything cogent to this argument why not have a coke and a smile and STFU

i know you re mad man.... But i didnt know is this serious




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