jln115:

I don't know dude, why don't you asked the handful of people you actually commit such atrocities instead of asking me.

actions like xenophobia brings hateful relationship and reports reaching us make us feel that the South African people support it. One of the reasons Why Nigerians are always angry with SA is we feel that SA is ungrateful after our workers donated three month of their salary to fight aparthed. Three months salary is substantial. BTW WTF is this?
www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/south-africa-kleinfontein-apartheid-afrikaner unlike SA Nigeria with over 3 00+ ethic group is fully integrated and we live side by side. I could be wrong about SA though.

lionel4power:
actions like xenophobia brings hateful relationship and reports reaching us make us feel that the South African people support it. One of the reasons Why Nigerians are always angry with SA is we feel that SA is ungrateful after our workers donated three month of their salary to fight aparthed. Three months salary is substantial. BTW WTF is this?
www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/south-africa-kleinfontein-apartheid-afrikaner unlike SA Nigeria with over 3 00+ ethic group is fully integrated and we live side by side. I could be wrong about SA though.

Why is it not wrong for only black to live together in one but wrong for Afrikaners to live together in one settlement? Constitution of RSA allows people of the same cultural groups to live together.

lionel4power:
actions like xenophobia brings hateful relationship and reports reaching us make us feel that the South African people support it. One of the reasons Why Nigerians are always angry with SA is we feel that SA is ungrateful after our workers donated three month of their salary to fight aparthed. Three months salary is substantial. BTW WTF is this?
www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/south-africa-kleinfontein-apartheid-afrikaner unlike SA Nigeria with over 3 00+ ethic group is fully integrated and we live side by side. I could be wrong about SA though.

Well dude if the actions of a few are effecting you so much theres nothing I can do about. 99% of us South Africans live peacefully side by side with no problems. Every country has its few bad apples, that's just the way it is.

Regarding Kleinfontein, I think @mizilakazi summed it up perfectly.

ddami:
unfortunately u were not born with any since u are not a normal human being... so learn COMMON sense.

Uhm...... I think our conversation should come to an end now, I just cant dumb down to your level, it just to far down.

jln115:

Uhm...... I think our conversation should come to an end now, I just cant dumb down to your level, it just to far down.

SA ZOMB1ES KILLED

mzilakazi:


Kleinfontein is a farm. yes. A vine farm owned by certain Mr somebody.


well I forgot, it is not like in primitive Nigeria.

All farms in SA have own schools, stores, etc.

[b]Behold your lack of dignity:Kleinfontein: A Place Where Only Whites Can Live, Oh Yeah, It is In Africa!

May 24, 2013 | Filed under: Africa , Featured | Posted by: Editorial_Staff

The entrance to Kleinfontein, being guarded by White militiamen

AFRICANGLOBE– About 30km south-east of Tshwane, South Africa’s capital on the N4 highway, there is a place you enter through a boom gate – similar to many other places in the city.

A security guard in full military attire greets you at the gate with a book for you to sign, and once you’ve stated your case you’re allowed in.

The system is similar to those at every other security estate in the city – except on the other side of this particular gate, you will see White faces only.

Welcome to Kleinfontein.

The White people who live here call it a “cultural community”, a safe haven for the white Christian Afrikaner.

The 800-hectare co-operative, started by Jan Groenewald, turns 21 years old this year and is one year younger than Orania – it’s sister town.

“It was started in 1992 when the founding members got that tingling feeling that the ANC would take over,” says Dr Pieter du Preez, who has lived here for five years and is a member of the board.

There are 450 shareholders in Kleinfontein with 300 homes and 1,000 residents – all White, Christian and Afrikaners.

“It is an Afrikaner homestead,” says Du Preez.

Once you have made it through the boom gate, you are greeted as Oom (uncle) or Tannie (auntie) by another security guard – also in military dress. He asks you who you are visiting and escorts you.

On the way to the office building, you are confronted with a large bust of Hendrik Verwoerd , the architect of apartheid.

Every White face along the way is smiling and they greet you in the “purest” Afrikaans.

Still, the place is eerily quiet.

“We have almost zero crime,” says Marisa Haasbroek, Kleinfontein’s volunteer communications officer.

The first stop after checking in at the office is the coffee shop.

You are treated to coffee and baked milktart by yet another smiling Afrikaner face. The smile broadens when they realise you are Afrikaans too.

The average age of a Kleinfontein resident is 60.

“Older people move here to retire because it is safe, quiet and we have a great care centre,” Haasbroek says over coffee.

When asked why there are few young people, she says it is too far outside Tshwane and the young do not want to drive so far to work.

“Older people do not travel as much,” she says.

Next up is a guided tour.

Kleinfontein a White Colony[/b]

mzilakazi:


Kleinfontein is a farm. yes. A vine farm owned by certain Mr somebody.


well I forgot, it is not like in primitive Nigeria.

All farms in SA have own schools, stores, etc.

more excerpt for you:[b]Although the Gauteng legislature has recognised Kleinfontein, a white Afrikaner-only settlement outside Pretoria, as a cultural community, the City of Tshwane won’t declare it a separate development.

The legislature’s decision comes after an investigation by its portfolio committee on community safety into an incident in which police officers were barred from entering the enclave, 30km south-east of the city in November last year, presumably because they did not fit the community’s entry requirements.

The findings of the investigation were reported in the legislature on Thursday, a meeting attended by one of Kleinfontein’s founders and the chairman of the Kleinfontein board, Jan Groenewald. He said the community co-operated fully with the legislature and said rumours that police were denied access to Kleinfontein were unsubstantiated.

The community is also in the process of applying to have Kleinfontein declared an independent legal entity within the City of Tshwane.

But while some have welcomed the acknowledgement of the settlement as a “cultural community” as a first step, the Tshwane mayor stressed that the city would not approve a whites-only township development within the capital city.

“It would be in contravention of the Bill of Rights for the City of Tshwane to approve a township development where residence was exclusive for a particular race group,” said the mayoral spokesman Blessing Manale.

In emphasising the supremacy of the constitution and the Bill of Rights, Executive Mayor Kgosientso Ramkgopa – who visited the settlement earlier in the year “to have a conversation with the community” – said every citizen had the right to “enter, remain and reside” anywhere in South Africa.

“We believe that there remains an open platform, medium and institutions for every South African to practise their legitimate cultural and religious rights, and to preserve and celebrate their heritage without demanding separate development and self-exclusion,” Manale said.

He described Kleinfontein as an informal settlement because it had not been formalised nor proclaimed as a formal township. There were about 40 such areas in the city. Groenewald attended the legislature meeting on Thursday. He said “rumours” that police were not allowed entry into Kleinfontein were unsubstantiated.

“… the investigation led to an excellent relationship between the Kleinfontein community and the legislature,” said Groenewald.

The 800ha co-operative turns 21 this year making it a year younger than its sister town, Orania. There are 450 shareholders in Kleinfontein with 300 homes and 1 000 residents – all of whom are white, Christian Afrikaners.

Those who live in Kleinfontein quote Article 185 of the constitution which defends the right to live with people of the same cultural group, language and religion.

The Freedom Front Plus welcomed the recognition of the Kleinfontein settlement as a cultural community, said Jaco Mulder, FF Plus member of the legislature in Gauteng.

Mulder, who was part of the investigation committee, said numerous misconceptions about Kleinfontein had now been cleared up.[/b]

jln115:

Uhm...... I think our conversation should come to an end now, I just cant dumb down to your level, it just to far down.

i know u are on ur knees DUMBOrin and now u are begging so d insult can end 'cos I definitely had no conversation with u all I want 2 do z 2 kip insulting u.....next time when am talking 2 someone else u just don't fly,jump,run into it 'cos u will get more Dan dis...abstain 4rm dis moniker-ddami
now a sleeping ovation 4 u ...ur presence has bin noted as stupid, insignificant, irrelevant,and derailing
run chicken run run su u ve bin set free
*shines eye* searching 4 my next prey....

ddami:
i know u are on ur knees DUMBOrin and now u are begging so d insult can end 'cos I definitely had no conversation with u all I want 2 do z 2 kip insulting u.....next time when am talking 2 someone else u just don't fly,jump,run into it 'cos u will get more Dan dis...abstain 4rm dis moniker-ddami
now a sleeping ovation 4 u ...ur presence has bin noted as stupid, insignificant, irrelevant,and derailing
run chicken run run su u ve bin set free
*shines eye* searching 4 my next prey....

Actually you came to this thread and derailed it by insulting South Africans....Which would have been fine if it had something to do with military matters which you obviously know nothing about, anyway good night and please don't bother quoting me anymore.

lionel4power:
Bad week for South African z0mbies.

Worse for them than last week. All their comments get demolished by Naija demolition squad team members.

mzilakazi:



How many peace noble prize did flat head igbos won?

How many black South Africans won Nobel prize for anything academic?
.

mzilakazi:


Zulus are gifted on peace noble prizes. How many peace noble prize did flat head igbos won?

Peace price is subjective, not on real merit.

Goodluck Jonathan deserves peace price, but the whites don't give Nobel price to somebody they don't like.

lezz:
peace, no intellectual Nobel prize for Zulu?

Nigar, any where apartheid survived for 300 years will produce peace winners.

Each of every peace noble prize is a testament for Zulu docility.

Dis one na soccer boot straight to the groin of South Africa, Soweto testiclez already leaking o

mzilakazi:


SA has over 10 million illegal foreigners, no other country in Africa has that much.

No other country in Africa is that stupiid to have that much
.

jln115:

Actually you came to this thread and derailed it by insulting South Africans....Which would have been fine if it had something to do with military matters which you obviously know nothing about, anyway good night and please don't bother quoting me anymore.

WOW-- 4 words- you are a fool
show me DAT u are not foolish by not quoting me again

Henry120:


The entire SANDF is significantly poorly trained.

- Nope you cannot properly equip a battalion. It is only going to be standardised because, SA has only one type of Camo, and the land systems are mostly SA made.

- do you have evidence to support your assertion that the Nigerian government hired South-Africans?

Well trained.

And no SA doesn't have one camo.

The soldier 2000 is the standard issue.

SA made because we know our needs.

Yes, the former government hired SA mercianeries. Since they left the momentum of ops against BH are decreasing.

Henry120:


An armed UGV is useless, and a significant waste of resources.

because you say so?

lionel4power:
nigeria doctors research new ebola drug [url]m.livescience.com/47389-nigerian-experimental-ebola-drug.html[/url]

when it comes to research and development both military and civilian South Africa is ahead of all African.

But I only focus on military side of things.

lionel4power:
no theres speculations in international scientist circle that S.As are the only species that doesnt have common sense. Your s.tupidit.y is still baffling scientist. Though the research is still ongoing

1. First African air to air missile.

2. First African surface to air missile.

3. First African UAV.

4. First African military radar.

5. First African missile engines and motors.

6. First African glide bomb.

7. First African attack helicopter.

8. First African nuclear devices.

9. First African air to surface missile.

10. First African surface to surface missile.


And more were designed in South Africa.

MikeCZAR:


1. First African air to air missile.

2. First African surface to air missile.

3. First African UAV.

4. First African military radar.

5. First African missile engines and motors.

6. First African glide bomb.

7. First African attack helicopter.

8. First African nuclear devices.

9. First African air to surface missile.

10. First African surface to surface missile.


And more were designed in South Africa.

You did not design any attack helicopter you nitwit.

- Thanks to the Israelis South-Africa can make bombs. They built the nuclear bombs for the Apartheid government, same as transfer of missile tech.

MikeCZAR:
because you say so?

Because nobody is actually really using them.

MikeCZAR:
Well trained.

And no SA doesn't have one camo.

The soldier 2000 is the standard issue.

SA made because we know our needs.

Yes, the former government hired SA mercianeries. Since they left the momentum of ops against BH are decreasing.

Poorly trained, your routing in the CAR and your Defence minister confirms this.

SA soldiers only have one came, a single camo that would make you stand out like fire-flies in mangrove terrain.

- can you back up that comment with at-least a single shred of evidence, why is this too much to ask.

Henry120:


You did not design any attack helicopter you nitwit.

- Thanks to the Israelis South-Africa can make bombs. They built the nuclear bombs for the Apartheid government, same as transfer of missile tech.

1. First African attack helicopter.

2. The world's first HMD system.

Thanks to the Germans Americans can launch space rockets!

Thanks to the Russians China is making planes.

Thanks to the Americans Israelis produce missiles, bombs etc.

agaugust:


Dis one na soccer boot straight to the groin of South Africa, Soweto testiclez already leaking o

Zulus were bragging about peace Nobel prize for allowing 5% white own them body and soul...
When Soyinka was the first African literary Nobel laureate and Achebe has the most translated literature in Africa, and prof. Augustine was the only black in 9 man NASA aerospace safety panel. Black Nigerians doing Africa proud.


Zulu gave us xenophobia which is 10* worse than apartheid.

MikeCZAR:


1. First African attack helicopter.

2. The world's first HMD system.

Thanks to the Germans Americans can launch space rockets!

Thanks to the Russians China is making planes.

Thanks to the Americans Israelis produce missiles, bombs etc.

Unlike them, your AH is completely french.

2. Yes, the Apartheid government's obsolete HMDs.

Henry120:


Poorly trained, your routing in the CAR and your Defence minister confirms this.

SA soldiers only have one came, a single camo that would make you stand out like fire-flies in mangrove terrain.

- can you back up that comment with at-least a single shred of evidence, why is this too much to ask.

CAR showed the quality of SA soldiers. For more than 10 hours without heavy fire support SA forces fought well.

Soldier 2000 is standard. If there was a requirement for a certain task the same pattern colour can be changed.

SA mercinaries were called in as the Nigerian military is weak to fight to deal with semi-conventional ill equipped forces.

ddami:
i know u are on ur knees DUMBOrin and now u are begging so d insult can end 'cos I definitely had no conversation with u all I want 2 do z 2 kip insulting u.....next time when am talking 2 someone else u just don't fly,jump,run into it 'cos u will get more Dan dis...abstain 4rm dis moniker-ddami
now a sleeping ovation 4 u ...ur presence has bin noted as stupid, insignificant, irrelevant,and derailing
run chicken run run su u ve bin set free
*shines eye* searching 4 my next prey....

lol, the guy has been rendered ineffective by your e-punch. Have pity on jilingy wuzzy.

Henry120:


Because nobody is actually really using them.

Because they're new.

Who's using air defence laser guns today?

MikeCZAR:


CAR showed the quality of SA soldiers. For more than 10 hours without heavy fire support SA forces fought.

Soldier 2000 is standard. If there was a requirement for a certain task the same pattern colour can be changed.

SA mercinaries were called in as the Nigerian military is weak to fight to deal with semi-conventional ill equipped forces.

CAR showed the world how inept ,incompetent and poorly resourced SANDF Special forces, not even your regular troops are.

- your illiterate army has only one camo, poor old inept SANDF.

Exactly my point dummy, if only your illiterate generals knew that before choosing a single camo.

- apparently not as weak as your special forces in the CAR.

Again you make bold comments on PMC's, yet no evidence to back them up.

Henry120:


Unlike them, your AH is completely french.

2. Yes, the Apartheid government's obsolete HMDs.

1. First African attack helicopter.

2. The world's first HMD system.

The Saab Cobra HMD jointly developed with SA which is fielded on the Gripens is one of the best in its class.

What military tech has Nigeria offered the world? Igirigiri?

MikeCZAR:
Because they're new.

Who's using air defence laser guns today?

They aren't new dummy, Armed UGV's were first introduced in 1930s.

Henry120:


CAR showed the world how inept ,incompetent and poorly resourced SANDF Special forces, not even your regular troops are.

- your illiterate army has only one camo, poor old inept SANDF.

Exactly my point dummy, if only your illiterate generals knew that before choosing a single camo.

- apparently not as weak as your special forces in the CAR.

Again you make bold comments on PMC's, yet no evidence to back them up.

Let's not even talk about SF!

Soldier 2000 is standard.

In CAR SA airborne and specialised forces performed well.

Mercinaries not PMCs rescuing the Nigerian military, they're gone the momentum is slowing down.