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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:33pm On Jun 04, 2015
lionel4power:
Meanwhile the olifant tank is a modification of the obsolete british centurion tank. Is there any indigenous thing S.A made. All we see is copy this copy that... Just like china.

SA has developed a lot of military hard wares from MRAPS to missiles.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
thank you, you just confirmed my submissions: Orania and kleinfontein are rural settlements.
Orania and Kleinfontein are build on private farms, and are not recognised as a South African towns, I was referring to Rural Towns in general.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
and kleinfontein and Orania? As this caption displays:Kleinfontein – All-White Town wishes to Preserve Segregation in South Africa
Well if they want to live segregated that's their choice, Orania and Kleinfontein are build on private land and thus if they don't want certain visitors on their private property then that's their right to disallow entry... Its just like its your decision of which people you allow into your house or not.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 6:43pm On Jun 04, 2015
mzilakazi:


Do South Africans speak Portuguese? Nope. So you failed. Do they speak English? yes. African dutch? yes.

In Mozambique do they speak Portuguese? 100% yes


So you are wrong.
you didnt answer the question... You just beat about the bush.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 6:53pm On Jun 04, 2015
mzilakazi:


Don't be confused by the word "community", every farm has its own community.
[b]Whites-only South African town Kleinfontein gains legal status
Whites-only enclave gains status - Politics | IOL News | IOL.co.za

There are 450 shareholders in Kleinfontein with 300 homes and 1 000 residents – all of whom are white, Christian Afrikaners.

Those who live in Kleinfontein quote Article 185 of the constitution which defends the right to live with people of the same cultural group, language and religion.

The Freedom Front Plus welcomed the recognition of the Kleinfontein settlement as a cultural community, said Jaco Mulder, FF Plus member of the legislature in Gauteng.

Mulder, who was part of the investigation committee, said numerous misconceptions about Kleinfontein had now been cleared up.
 

11-22-2013, 07:31 AM   #2
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Re: Whites-only South African town Kleinfontein gains legal status
I'm more surprised how a town like this exists there without being attacked everyday
 
11-22-2013, 07:42 AM   #3
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Re: Whites-only South African town Kleinfontein gains legal status
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I'm more surprised how a town like this exists there without being attacked everyday
I am not surprised.

There were attempted burglaries there from outsiders and they've been severely dealt with. Liberals would of course cry "racism".
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11-22-2013, 07:49 AM   #4
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So this is another white town there in conjunction with Orania?
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Politicsweb - Kleinfontein settlement recognised as cultural community - FF+ - PARTY
 
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Re: Whites-only South African town Kleinfontein gains legal status
If only the Afrikaans and German speaking Whites were given voting rights for the 1994 referendum, South Africa would have been still under white rule.

Also another big mistake which the Apartheid government made was to recognize Jews as whites. During the late 1980s, Jews made as much as 2% of the electorate.
 
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I'm sure the majority of jews in SA who can't afford to leave "feel the effects" of being classified as whites! Afterall, most negros are unable to distinguish the difference.
 
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places like this are the ultimate PLEs
Now if only we had a fre thousand more and they all worked together.
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Re: Whites-only South African town Kleinfontein gains legal status
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Originally Posted by inno a satana
So this is another white town there in conjunction with Orania?
It is very much like Orania, The difference is that it's a bit smaller and has less industry integrated, since many people still can go and work in Pretoria or the surrounding areas.

Orania just got more media attention from the beginning. Most likely, because it was considered less feasible and far away from any larger White settlements on it. The (NASPERS and MSM) media wanted to put a stigma on the Volkstaat-idea. And "You-have-to-move-far-away-to-the-Volkstaat" was one of them. The others were "A-Volkstaat-will-be-a-poor/backward/oldfashioned-place" and "A-Volkstaat-can-not-work".

Well, both Orania and Kleinfontein as well as several other places are alive and kicking. While some people there are poor, there is no misery. Even some rather rich people did move there. There is virtually no crime and good facilities for the residents. Nothing like the anti-Volkstaat-propaganda did paint it.

Here is some info on Kleinfontein:
KLEINFONTEIN
 
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Re: Whites-only South African town Kleinfontein gains legal status
The main problem in South Africa that caused the demise of sanity(apartheid) was that the English speaking Whites chose to become liberals and to side with the anti-apartheid Blacks because the English-speaking White community felt excluded from the White Afrikaner power structure and they resented the Afrikaner White community for having power over them.

Apartheid was not strictly speaking White rule in South Africa(as in all Whites part of power structure), more precisely it was rule by Afrikaner Whites. These Afrikaners came to power in part because of networking they engaged in with the Afrikaner Broederbund(brotherhood) which was a fraternal organization for Afrikaners much like the freemasons.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 6:53pm On Jun 04, 2015
Revealed!! Isreali mossad just leaked a report that south africa stole missile tech since 2006.. That means that all south african missiles made since then is probably from stolen technology. This south africans can copy for africa. m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Spy-Cables-exposes-how-theft-of-SA-missile-technology-was-covered-up-20150223

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 6:56pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Well if they want to live segregated that's their choice, Orania and Kleinfontein are build on private land and thus if they don't want certain visitors on their private property then that's their right to disallow entry... Its just like its your decision of which people you allow into your house or not.
and they have gained legal status. Nice.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:58pm On Jun 04, 2015
lionel4power:
Revealed!! Isreali mossad just leaked a report that south africa stole missile tech since 2006.. That means that all south african missiles made since then is probably from stolen technology. This south africans can copy for africa. m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Spy-Cables-exposes-how-theft-of-SA-missile-technology-was-covered-up-20150223

You dullard

Isreal stole OUR tech
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 6:59pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Orania and Kleinfontein are build on private farms, and are not recognised as a South African towns, I was referring to Rural Towns in general.
I have proven otherwise with thousand of sources.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 6:59pm On Jun 04, 2015
All this while they have been secretly hiding nuclear technology from all the world. The Centre for Public Integrity, a US-based
non-profit investigative news organisation, has
published a report which says that South Africa
has enough nuclear explosives to fuel half-a-
dozen bombs.
According to the report, the nuclear explosives
are locked in a former silver vault at the Pelindaba
Nuclear Research Centre close to the
Hartbeespoort Dam.
Pelindaba is operated by The South African
Nuclear Energy Corporation, and was were South
Africa’s atomic weapons under apartheid were
developed, built, and stored.
These explosives were created by the apartheid
government as part of its nuclear weapons
programme. According to a report by Marcus
Duvenhage, South Africa had six nuclear devices,
and was busy constructing a seventh, by the
time the programme stopped.
South Africa ended its nuclear weapons
programme in 1989, and these weapons were
dismantled.
However, the highly-enriched uranium fuel was
extracted, melted down, and cast into ingots.
The report states that roughly 220kg of this fuel
remains, and that South Africa is “keeping a tight
grip on it”.
This weapons-grade nuclear fuel means South
Africa can easily become a nuclear state again.
However, the biggest concern to the United
States is that it will be stolen by militants and used
in a terrorist attack.
According to U.S. officials and experts, South
Africa’s nuclear explosives are among the most
vulnerable in the world to theft by terrorists.
U.S. officials further argue that South Africa has
no clear rationale for holding its nuclear explosive
materials, because it no longer needs them to
make medical isotopes.
The Centre for Public Integrity said that US
President Barack Obama twice directly asked the
South African president to relinquish this
weapons-grade uranium. However, the SA
president did not oblige.
The full report is available here: South Africa
rebuffs repeated U.S. demands that it
relinquish its nuclear explosives
Dismantling of SA’s atomic bombs
In a 2012 interview former SA president FW De
Klerk said that soon after the fall of the Berlin Wall
they decided to announce the dismantling of
South Africa’s atomic bombs.
“We announced as soon as possible that we had
broken those [nuclear] bombs down, [and] that
we could account for every milli-milli-milli-
milligram of material,” said de Klerk.
He added that they “would open all facilities to full
inspection by the International Atomic Agency,
and that is exactly what we did.”
Facts about South Africa’s nuclear weapons
programme
While details about South Africa’s nuclear
programme remains sketchy, there are some
facts which are interesting.
Most of these are quoted from the Wikipedia
article “ South Africa and weapons of mass
destruction
”.
South Africa’s plans to develop nuclear
weapons began in 1948 after giving
commission to the South African Atomic
Energy Corporation (SAAEC).
South Africa gained sufficient experience with
the nuclear technology to capitalise on the
promotion of the U.S. government’s Peaceful
Nuclear Explosions (PNE) programme.
In 1971, South African minister of mines Carl
de Wet gave approval of the country’s PNE
programme. The date when the South African
PNE programme transformed into a weapons
programme is not known.
The South African Atomic Energy Board (AEB)
selected a test site in the Kalahari Desert. Two
test shafts were completed in 1976 and 1977.
However, when the test site was exposed by
Soviet and Western governments, its
immediate shutdown was ordered.
In September 1979, a US satellite detected a
double flash over the Indian Ocean that was
suspected, but never confirmed, to be a
nuclear test. In 1997, South African Deputy
Foreign Minister Aziz Pahad stated that South
Africa had conducted a test, but later retracted
his statement.
The South African Defence Force (SADF)
investigated aircraft and missile-based delivery
systems. The missiles were to be based on the
RSA-3 and RSA-4 launchers that had already
been built and tested for the South African
space programme.
South Africa ended its nuclear weapons
programme in 1989. All the bombs – six
constructed and one under construction –
were dismantled.
On 19 August 1994, after completing its
inspection, the International Atomic Energy
Agency (IAEA) confirmed that one partially
completed and six fully completed nuclear
weapons had been dismantled.
A full timeline of South Africa’s nuclear
programme is provided below.
Timeline of South African nuclear weapons
programme
Year
Activity
1950s and 1960s
Scientific work on the feasibility of peaceful
nuclear explosives and support to nuclear power
production efforts
1969
Atomic Energy Boa
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
I have proven otherwise with thousand of sources.
What did you prove otherwise mate? Its private property owned by the people who live there.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:14pm On Jun 04, 2015
lionel4power:
All this while they have been secretly hiding nuclear technology from all the world. The Centre for Public Integrity, a US-based
non-profit investigative news organisation, has
published a report which says that South Africa
has enough nuclear explosives to fuel half-a-
dozen bombs.
According to the report, the nuclear explosives
are locked in a former silver vault at the Pelindaba
Nuclear Research Centre close to the
Hartbeespoort Dam.
Pelindaba is operated by The South African
Nuclear Energy Corporation, and was were South
Africa’s atomic weapons under apartheid were
developed, built, and stored.
These explosives were created by the apartheid
government as part of its nuclear weapons
programme. According to a report by Marcus
Duvenhage, South Africa had six nuclear devices,
and was busy constructing a seventh, by the
time the programme stopped.
South Africa ended its nuclear weapons
programme in 1989, and these weapons were
dismantled.
However, the highly-enriched uranium fuel was
extracted, melted down, and cast into ingots.
The report states that roughly 220kg of this fuel
remains, and that South Africa is “keeping a tight
grip on it”.
This weapons-grade nuclear fuel means South
Africa can easily become a nuclear state again.
However, the biggest concern to the United
States is that it will be stolen by militants and used
in a terrorist attack.
According to U.S. officials and experts, South
Africa’s nuclear explosives are among the most
vulnerable in the world to theft by terrorists.
U.S. officials further argue that South Africa has
no clear rationale for holding its nuclear explosive
materials, because it no longer needs them to
make medical isotopes.
The Centre for Public Integrity said that US
President Barack Obama twice directly asked the
South African president to relinquish this
weapons-grade uranium. However, the SA
president did not oblige.
The full report is available here: South Africa
rebuffs repeated U.S. demands that it
relinquish its nuclear explosives
Dismantling of SA’s atomic bombs
In a 2012 interview former SA president FW De
Klerk said that soon after the fall of the Berlin Wall
they decided to announce the dismantling of
South Africa’s atomic bombs.
“We announced as soon as possible that we had
broken those [nuclear] bombs down, [and] that
we could account for every milli-milli-milli-
milligram of material,” said de Klerk.
He added that they “would open all facilities to full
inspection by the International Atomic Agency,
and that is exactly what we did.”
Facts about South Africa’s nuclear weapons
programme
While details about South Africa’s nuclear
programme remains sketchy, there are some
facts which are interesting.
Most of these are quoted from the Wikipedia
article “ South Africa and weapons of mass
destruction
”.
South Africa’s plans to develop nuclear
weapons began in 1948 after giving
commission to the South African Atomic
Energy Corporation (SAAEC).
South Africa gained sufficient experience with
the nuclear technology to capitalise on the
promotion of the U.S. government’s Peaceful
Nuclear Explosions (PNE) programme.
In 1971, South African minister of mines Carl
de Wet gave approval of the country’s PNE
programme. The date when the South African
PNE programme transformed into a weapons
programme is not known.
The South African Atomic Energy Board (AEB)
selected a test site in the Kalahari Desert. Two
test shafts were completed in 1976 and 1977.
However, when the test site was exposed by
Soviet and Western governments, its
immediate shutdown was ordered.
In September 1979, a US satellite detected a
double flash over the Indian Ocean that was
suspected, but never confirmed, to be a
nuclear test. In 1997, South African Deputy
Foreign Minister Aziz Pahad stated that South
Africa had conducted a test, but later retracted
his statement.
The South African Defence Force (SADF)
investigated aircraft and missile-based delivery
systems. The missiles were to be based on the
RSA-3 and RSA-4 launchers that had already
been built and tested for the South African
space programme.
South Africa ended its nuclear weapons
programme in 1989. All the bombs – six
constructed and one under construction –
were dismantled.
On 19 August 1994, after completing its
inspection, the International Atomic Energy
Agency (IAEA) confirmed that one partially
completed and six fully completed nuclear
weapons had been dismantled.
A full timeline of South Africa’s nuclear
programme is provided below.
Timeline of South African nuclear weapons
programme
Year
Activity
1950s and 1960s
Scientific work on the feasibility of peaceful
nuclear explosives and support to nuclear power
production efforts
1969
Atomic Energy Boa
Dude we're not hiding anything, its our material and we could do what ever the fvck we like with it, I don't commend JZ on a lot of thing( actual almost 0 things) but I commend him for standing up to the strongest power in the world and telling them "fvck off, we know what we're doing."

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 7:20pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Dude we're not hiding anything, its our material and we could do what ever the fvck we like with it, I don't commend JZ on a lot of thing( actual almost 0 things) but I commend him for standing up to the strongest power in the world and telling them "fvck off, we know what we're doing."
this is 2015 better brace up for sanctions. The worst you have ever seen.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
and they have gained legal status. Nice.
Yes in South Africa its legal to keep someone of you property if you don't want them on your property.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:22pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

What did you prove otherwise mate? Its private property owned by the people who live there.
it is a town, a small community settlement that has acquired legal status as a settlement.

Your friend went far to call it a farm. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Jun 04, 2015
lionel4power:
this is 2015 better brace up for sanctions. The worst you have ever seen.
Maybe if we were Nigeria they would've sanctioned us, but we're South Africa not some 3rd world African village.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
it is a town, a small community settlement that has acquired legal status as a settlement.

Your friend went far to call it a farm. grin
Well....technically it is a farm
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:25pm On Jun 04, 2015
Patchesagain:


You dullard

Isreal stole OUR tech

Israel is your teacher.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:26pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Maybe if we were Nigeria they would've sanctioned us, but we're South Africa not some 3rd world African village.
south Africa is a flag bearing member of a third world country. Don't let the NIC some ideologist are putting forward fool you
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 7:27pm On Jun 04, 2015
Good evening great men and women of Africa.

Any volunteer to give me a list of troublemakers? I've been receiving bad reports about this thread and I need to do the...

Thanks in advance....

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:31pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Yes in South Africa its legal to keep someone of you property if you don't want them on your property.
as is all over the world. Anyways, its legal status is that of a community settlement which the major of Tshwane is decrying.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:37pm On Jun 04, 2015
HumbledbYGrace:
Good evening great men and women of Africa.

Any volunteer to give me a list of troublemakers? I've been receiving bad reports about this thread and I need to do the...

Thanks in advance....
Ah ! Pretty, long time no post wink. You know it's a long thread and sometimes we take a break with little jibes here and there before getting back to who's the strongest.

Trusting your understanding and umpirage .
kiss

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:50pm On Jun 04, 2015
HumbledbYGrace:
Good evening great men and women of Africa.

Any volunteer to give me a list of troublemakers? I've been receiving bad reports about this thread and I need to do the...

Thanks in advance....

Some people poured water on some people, but later apologized and helped them to dry their wet clothes.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:52pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
south Africa is a flag bearing member of a third world country. Don't let the NIC some ideologist are putting forward fool you
Is that so? So if we're 3rd world, those that make Nigeria a 4th World country?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:55pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Is that so? So if we're 3rd world, those that make Nigeria a 4th World country?
then that would make you a flag bearing 4th world country
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 8:03pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
Ah ! Pretty, long time no post wink. You know it's a long thread and sometimes we take a break with little jibes here and there before getting back to who's the strongest.

Trusting your understanding and umpirage .
kiss
I understand perfectly handsome, but let's not get carried away, you know Africa and the world is watching...wink
agaugust:

Some people poured water on some people, but later apologized and helped them to dry their wet clothes.
aaaaw..smiley that's so cute, we are our brothers keepers.

In that case, I'll sheath my sword....
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
then that would make you a flag bearing 4th world country
Uhm...Have you ever seen South Africa? If you havnt I suggest you use google images and compare your country with ours.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 8:11pm On Jun 04, 2015
jln115:

Uhm...Have you ever seen South Africa? If you havnt I suggest you use google images and compare your country with ours.
Who hasn't, while it has some nice infrastructure (majority of which are decaying rapidly) , majority of its settlement are classic cesspool.

With all the infrastructure in Dubai, the united Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia are not claiming not to be third world.

The problem is south africa loves status more than substance. That why she had to bribe to host a world cup grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 8:13pm On Jun 04, 2015
HumbledbYGrace:
I understand perfectly handsome, but let's not get carried away, you know Africa and the world is watching...winkaaaaw..smiley that's so cute, we are our brothers keepers.

In that case, I'll sheath my sword....
OK. Noted.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:18pm On Jun 04, 2015
Lezzlie:
Who hasn't, while it has some nice infrastructure (majority of which are decaying rapidly) , majority of its settlement are classic cesspool.

With all the infrastructure in Dubai, the united Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia are not claiming not to be third world.

The problem is south africa loves status more than substance. That why she had to bribe to host a world cup grin
imagine bribe to host world cup. The shame of it... The embarrassment of it. The whole world knows now.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 8:22pm On Jun 04, 2015
lionel4power:
imagine bribe to host world cup. The shame of it... The embarrassment of it. The whole world knows now.
just to proof what they are not. Status symbol without substance. The ISS report noted this when it says: South Africa has the misguided notion they are a big military country....."

I guess after apartheid they are dying to show they aren't a conquered people.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 8:25pm On Jun 04, 2015
HumbledbYGrace:
I understand perfectly handsome, but let's not get carried away, you know Africa and the world is watching...winkaaaaw..smiley that's so cute, we are our brothers keepers.

In that case, I'll sheath my sword....
At the risk of derailment, may I ask dear, how did you embolden and change the characters and fonts in your signature? Wish to change mine.

I love the way they stand bold and bright....and your pose in your dp....

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