PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7
verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered
Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own
(scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK
OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their
brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in
his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all
that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to
Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like
Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well
as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a
Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy
to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible
who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel,
Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist,
etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well
as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is
like Moses (pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus
(pbuh) was born miraculously without any male
intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an
3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had
children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been
raised up alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of
Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews.
Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac
(pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail
(pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac
(pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and
whatever revelations he received from Almighty
God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their
brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in
his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that
I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e.
they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus
(pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this
world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in
their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by
his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came
unto his own, but his own received him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for
their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible
did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).
2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will
not harken unto my words which he shall speak
in my name, I will require it of him."
3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of
Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29
verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he
saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad
(pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am
not learned".
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in
the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by
name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim
Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether
lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend,
O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect.
Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet
Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English
translation they have even translated the name of
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether
lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the
name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New
Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O
Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah
(sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came)
before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger
to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'
But when he came to them with clear signs, they
said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old
Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides
applying to the Jews also hold good for the
Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you
another Comforter, that he may abide with you
forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will
send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of
truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of
me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient
for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the
Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him
unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who
praises" or "the praised one" is almost the
translation of the
Greek word Periclytos . In the Gospel of John
14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is
used in the English translation for the Greek
word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind
friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos .
Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by
name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh)
who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter
mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy
Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus
(pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible
states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before
and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb
of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was
being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to
none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye
cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the
Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall
not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall
hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you
things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy
referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh)
NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from
the King James Version.

Akuko n'egwu!
Mohammed is existing in your imagination and not in the Bible.

alansary0064:
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE by Dr. Zakir Naik Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament: The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157: "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel". 1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY: Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet. If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh): i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47] ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children. iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158) Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh). Words in the mouth: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim. "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." [Deuteronomy 18:18] iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36). v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not." iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18). 2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." 3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah: It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned". 4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16: " Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament: Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6: "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' " All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians. 1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." 2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." 3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos . In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter. Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos . Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures. Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). 4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.

Did he even exist

It's oblivious

alansary0064

@OP

So that means Bible is AN INSPIRED Word of God, am I correct?

Jaza khum lahi kaeran, may God Continue to lead us in the right part

Emusan:
@OP

So that means Bible is AN INSPIRED Word of God, am I correct?

yes, the real one locked away somewhere not the revised one you are using this days

TunjiMsp:
yes, the real one locked away somewhere not the revised one you are using this days

Are you for real?

Which one did your brother use in his quotation the real one locked away somewhere or the revised one I'm using and where did he see this original one that Christians don't have?

In case you forget NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.

So you mean King James Version is the real one.

.......He shall show you things to come,he shall glorify me.
Did Muhammed come to glorify Jesus?

Make una dey dia dey deceive unasef!

TunjiMsp:
yes, the real one locked away somewhere not the revised one you are using this days

Why can't all the islamic scholars have access to it and show proof of a copy?

alansary0064:
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7
verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered
Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own
(scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK
OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their
brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in
his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all
that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to
Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like
Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well
as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a
Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy
to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible
who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel,
Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist,
etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well
as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is
like Moses (pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus
(pbuh) was born miraculously without any male
intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an
3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had
children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been
raised up alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of
Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews.
Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac
(pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail
(pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac
(pbuh).

The prophesy by Moses referred to Jesus Christ as Prophet. Other prophets called Him Priest,King, Branch, Breaker, Messenger of the Covenant etc all pointing to His various roles. Even Jesus said
John 5:46 (Jesus speaking)
46 For if you believed and relied on Moses, you would believe and rely on Me, for he wrote about Me [personally].

Moses brought the Old testament Jesus came in fulfillment of the New Covenant. That is all that matters. Hence John (also a Jew/Israelite) said John 1:17
17 For while the Law was given through Moses, grace ([d]unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and
whatever revelations he received from Almighty
God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their
brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in
his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that
I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]

This was why Jesus clearly said,

John 5:30
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me

and

John 8:26
I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

not forgetting

John12:49
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e.
they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus
(pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this
world." (John 18:36).

Kindly give two or three Bible quotes that declared Moses as a king! Elijah also inflicted capital punishment too;was he a king then?!

v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in
their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by
his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came
unto his own, but his own received him not."

Yes Moses was also rejected at his 'first coming' but accepted at his second coming at the appointed time; at the appointed time, Christ will come and the Israelites will be eagerly expecting Him.
Acts 7:35
This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.

iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for
their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible
did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

Moses brought laws as an integral part of the Old Covenant; Jesus brought grace as an Integral part of the New Covenant as promised by God through the prophets long before Christ came,in keeping with the promise made to Abraham!
John 1:17
17 For while the Law was given through Moses, grace ([d]unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Luke 1:72-75
to perform the mercy promised to our fathers,
and to remember his holy covenant;
73 the oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 that he would grant unto us,
that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies
might serve him without fear,
75 in holiness and righteousness before him,
all the days of our life.

3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of
Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29
verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he
saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad
(pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am
not learned".

The context of the passage you are quoting has to do with the influence of a spirit of slumber/deep sleep (leading to spiritual blindness) on the Israelites due to sin see:
Isaiah 29:10-12
For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep,
and hath closed your eyes:
the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 and the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Taking a verse out of its contextual habitat is misleading.

4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in
the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by
name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim
Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether
lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend,
O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect.
Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet
Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English
translation they have even translated the name of
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether
lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the
name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.

The Arabs and their arabic language existed centuries before hence if a hebrew word sounds like his name,it indicates nought.
In the Bible, if a person is to be referred to in the future by name (proper noun and not role) it will be mentioned directly. eg
1 Kings 13:2
2 And he cried against the altar in the word of the Lord, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the Lord; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men’s bones shall be burnt upon thee.
This prophecy of King Josiah was made around 931-910 BC, Josiah came around 640-609BC!
There are others.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New
Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O
Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah
(sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came)
before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger
to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'
But when he came to them with clear signs, they
said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old
Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides
applying to the Jews also hold good for the
Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you
another Comforter, that he may abide with you
forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will
send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of
truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of
me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient
for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the
Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him
unto you".

I am not surprised that the author of this piece omitted John 14:26
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Greek word Periclytos . In the Gospel of John
14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is
used in the English translation for the Greek
word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind
friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos .
Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by
name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh)
who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter
mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy
Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus
(pbuh) departs will the Comforter come.

Yes. Jesus affirmed that too
John 14:17
17 even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. The Holy Spirit was already with them but not in them as promised per the NT.
. The Holy Spirit was to come in fulfilling His role in the New Covenant as prophesied centuries ago by prophet Ezekiel
Ezekiel 36:27 (The Father speaking)
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye
cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the
Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall
not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall
hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you
things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Spirit of Truth was to glorify Jesus Christ not classify Him as just another prophet!
2 Corinth 13:14
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

God so loved the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son Jesus, by Whom came grace and Truth and Who, after His resurrection and ascension, sent the Holy Spirit into the believers Who makes it possible for them to access and enjoy all that Jesus accomplished, revealing and glorifying Jesus to and through the believers. All in pursuance of the New Covenant prophesied and promised in the OT!

Lilimax:
Akuko n'egwu! Mohammed is existing in your imagination and not in the Bible.

Then tel me who is the comforter jesus referring to

Emusan:
alansary0064
@OP
So that means Bible is AN INSPIRED Word of God, am I correct?

Yes originally but has undergoes modification by compilers and translator

thorpido:
.......He shall show you things to come,he shall glorify me.
Did Muhammed come to glorify Jesus?

Make una dey dia dey deceive unasef!

Of course YES if u r stil in doubt contact me for clarification

thorpido:
Why can't all the islamic scholars have access to it and show proof of a copy?

Having d original copy makes us to have d true image of jesus as a Messenger of God

Numbre christian forum pls go to www.godchurchs.forumotion.com pls regis

alansary0064:

Having d original copy makes us to have d true image of jesus as a Messenger of God

Where is it?That is the question,not all these stories.

alansary0064:

Then tel me who is the comforter jesus referring to

Holy Spirit is the comforter not some paedophilic jihadist

thorpido:
Where is it?That is the question,not all these stories.

Overtime, there have been certain evidences that prove the bible has indeed undergone reconstruction which adulterates its originality and irrefutability. E.g the parts in genesis that speak of abraham riding a camel when camels did not exist in that part of the world back than. Or some verses that have admittedly been added into the bible and later removed. The way jesus of nazareth, a palestinian jew has been transformed into jesus christ, a blue eyed blonde who shares glaring similarities with multiple pagan gods, Or its conflict with the recovered dead sea scrolls. Presence of unidentified authors, the ways in which the teachings of paul contradict that of he who you claim to worship, some blatant in accuracies and contradictory comments in the bible, erotic p*orn in the bible, the list is long but this is just to name a few.

KellamLeTorneau:


Overtime, there have been certain evidences that prove the bible has indeed undergone reconstruction which adulterates its originality and irrefutability. E.g the parts in genesis that speak of abraham riding a camel when camels did not exist in that part of the world back than. Or some verses that have admittedly been added into the bible and later removed. Or its conflict with the recovered dead sea scrolls. Presence of unidentified authors, the ways in which the teachings of paul contradict that of he who you claim to worship, some blatant in accuracies and contradictory comments in the bible, erotic p*orn in the bible, the list is long but this is just to name a few.

Kindly give us specifics with biblical and/or historical proofs (as regards the highlighted)! Any one can speak authoritatively on that which he has no specifics as proofs!

KellamLeTorneau:


Overtime, there have been certain evidences that prove the bible has indeed undergone reconstruction which adulterates its originality and irrefutability. E.g the parts in genesis that speak of abraham riding a camel when camels did not exist in that part of the world back than. Or some verses that have admittedly been added into the bible and later removed. The way jesus of nazareth, a palestinian jew has been transformed into jesus christ, a blue eyed blonde who shares glaring similarities with multiple pagan gods, Or its conflict with the recovered dead sea scrolls. Presence of unidentified authors, the ways in which the teachings of paul contradict that of he who you claim to worship, some blatant in accuracies and contradictory comments in the bible, erotic p*orn in the bible, the list is long but this is just to name a few.

Again these are stories.Why didn't Allah leave Muhammed with a copy of the original gospel that even the Jews will not refute?

What proof do you have that camels did not exist as at the time of Abraham?

Who ever said the picture of Jesus widely circulated is His original picture?We know it was an artist's imagination.

You do not understand the writings of Paul and so you conclude it contradicts that of Jesus.

No wonder Peter a disciple of Jesus said they that are unlearned(spiritually) and unstable struggle with the teachings of Apostle Paul as they do other scriptures.2 Peter 3:16

basilico:


Did he even exist

The people who wrote the Bible neva met, seen, or talked to Jesus? Who are Matthew, Luke, Paul?
Paul who? Matthew who? they don't even kno their Bible had anonymous writers wit no surname. they record "according to" even in d modern world it'll not be accepted, only Christians. . ... different versions, who wud follow that for God sake?

Scholar8200:
Kindly give us specifics with biblical and/or historical proofs (as regards the highlighted)! Any one can speak authoritatively on that which he has no specifics as proofs!

http://time.com/6662/the-mystery-of-the-bibles-phantom-camels/

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/20/world/meast/do-camel-bones-discredit-the-bible/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2551511/Do-camels-prove-Bible-INACCURATE-Archaeologists-reveal-mammals-domesticated-900BC-centuries-Biblical-characters-rode-them.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140210-domesticated-camels-israel-bible-archaeology-science/

About the camels, read any of the articles above.

Various articles have been written about the study carried out by university of tel aviv, which used camel bones to date the earliest time camels were in that part of the world. They conducted their research and concluded the earliest time as 900BC, long after the bible claims in some verses that certain people rode them as seen below.

Genesis 37:25 'Then they sat down to eat a meal. And as they raised their eyes and looked, behold, a caravan of Ishmaelites was coming from Gilead, with their camels bearing aromatic gum and balm and myrrh, on their way to bring them down to Egypt.'
Genesis 24:10 'Then he loaded ten of Abraham’s camels with all kinds of expensive gifts from his master, and he traveled to distant Aram-naharaim.'
Genesis 24:61 'Then Rebekah arose with her maids, and they mounted the camels and followed the man. So the servant took Rebekah and departed.'
Source: KnowingJesus.com


This research was was conducted by non muslims. This further re asserts the claims by modern historians that the bible has been tampered with and that its some contents aren't as old or original as claimed.


About the contradictions between teachings of Paul and jesus, I'll give you one example.

Jesus said, he did not come to abolish the laws of past prophets but to confirm every single letter of them till the end of time. In the book of Matthew if I'm not mistaken.

But apparently, due to Paul's inventions, christians dis regard the law of Moses. This can also be seen in the fact that jesus obviously a Jew, he supports circumcision and was circumcised. Also the fact that the don't eat pork but christians do, or the fact that your bible clearly forbids shell fish but christians gobble the heck out of these things. The Torah was a book of laws, the bible has no laws but as the bible says, it confirms the laws of the Torah. I.e its law was to follow that of the Torah .So if christians these days don't follow the bible or its laws , they don't follow the laws of God but that of man, it's evident in the way christians are becoming more tolerant of adultery faggotry and other heinous acts, because the laws of man are flexible, but that Of God is rigid. You may claim to be against them now, but seeing as the crusaders who brought the religion to you are starting to become the opposite of what they sold to you, it won't be long before you follow suit.

alansary0064:

Yes originally but has undergoes modification by compilers and translator

So is it the Original INSPIRED ONE Zakir Naik used in his work you copy or the MODIFICATION one BY COMPILERS AND TRANSLATORS?

Scholar8200:
The prophesy by Moses referred to Jesus Christ as Prophet. Other prophets called Him Priest,King, Branch, Breaker, Messenger of the Covenant etc all pointing to His various roles. Even Jesus said
John 5:46 (Jesus speaking)
46 For if you believed and relied on Moses, you would believe and rely on Me, for he wrote about Me [personally].

Moses brought the Old testament Jesus came in fulfillment of the New Covenant. That is all that matters. Hence John (also a Jew/Israelite) said John 1:17
17 For while the Law was given through Moses, grace ([d]unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ.

This was why Jesus clearly said,

John 5:30
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me

and

John 8:26
I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

not forgetting

John12:49
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Kindly give two or three Bible quotes that declared Moses as a king! Elijah also inflicted capital punishment too;was he a king then?!
Yes Moses was also rejected at his 'first coming' but accepted at his second coming at the appointed time; at the appointed time, Christ will come and the Israelites will be eagerly expecting Him.
Acts 7:35
This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.

Moses brought laws as an integral part of the Old Covenant; Jesus brought grace as an Integral part of the New Covenant as promised by God through the prophets long before Christ came,in keeping with the promise made to Abraham!
John 1:17
17 For while the Law was given through Moses, grace ([d]unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Luke 1:72-75
to perform the mercy promised to our fathers,
and to remember his holy covenant;
73 the oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 that he would grant unto us,
that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies
might serve him without fear,
75 in holiness and righteousness before him,
all the days of our life.

The context of the passage you are quoting has to do with the influence of a spirit of slumber/deep sleep (leading to spiritual blindness) on the Israelites due to sin see:
Isaiah 29:10-12
For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep,
and hath closed your eyes:
the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 and the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Taking a verse out of its contextual habitat is misleading.
The Arabs and their arabic language existed centuries before hence if a hebrew word sounds like his name,it indicates nought.
In the Bible, if a person is to be referred to in the future by name (proper noun and not role) it will be mentioned directly. eg
1 Kings 13:2
2 And he cried against the altar in the word of the Lord, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the Lord; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men’s bones shall be burnt upon thee.
This prophecy of King Josiah was made around 931-910 BC, Josiah came around 640-609BC!
There are others.

I am not surprised that the author of this piece omitted John 14:26
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Yes. Jesus affirmed that too
John 14:17
17 even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. The Holy Spirit was already with them but not in them as promised per the NT.
. The Holy Spirit was to come in fulfilling His role in the New Covenant as prophesied centuries ago by prophet Ezekiel
Ezekiel 36:27 (The Father speaking)
27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

The Spirit of Truth was to glorify Jesus Christ not classify Him as just another prophet!
2 Corinth 13:14
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

God so loved the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son Jesus, by Whom came grace and Truth and Who, after His resurrection and ascension, sent the Holy Spirit into the believers Who makes it possible for them to access and enjoy all that Jesus accomplished, revealing and glorifying Jesus to and through the believers. All in pursuance of the New Covenant prophesied and promised in the OT!

Your whole refutation of these prophecies is debateable, infact its bollocks! But let's try to understand the logic of your last claim since the rest is too long. So Jesus is the son of God, and he sent him to guide all believers? Answer yes or no. If no, explain where I have it wrong.

KellamLeTorneau:


Your whole refutation of these prophecies is debateable, infact its bollocks! But let's try to understand the logic of your last claim since the rest is too long. So Jesus is the son of God, and he sent him to guide all believers? Answer yes or no. If no, explain where I have it wrong.

What is the purpose of this thread if not to DEBATE?

Since his post is debatable go ahead and do the necessary thing I mean to refute those points.

I can see degression from the main point of this thread with that your question.

@scholar8200-don't allow him to derail this thread with that question.

Emusan:


What is the purpose of this thread if not to DEBATE?

Since his post is debatable go ahead and do the necessary thing I mean to refute those points.

I can see degression from the main point of this thread with that your question.

@scholar8200-don't allow him to derail this thread with that question.

But that's the point. I'll say this, he'll say that, to what end? But simple I expect that the end point or end theory which he claimed Jesus is the son of god, that is something that can be proved or refuted.

Emusan:


What is the purpose of this thread if not to DEBATE?

Since his post is debatable go ahead and do the necessary thing I mean to refute those points.

I can see degression from the main point of this thread with that your question.

@scholar8200-don't allow him to derail this thread with that question.

But that's the point. Its a topic that relies on how one sees it like. Besides, its too long and I'll say this, he'll say that, to what end? But the end point or end theory which he claimed Jesus is the son of god, that is something that can be proved or refuted. You are a devout christian, you have nothing to fear, I'm sure he'll pass with flying colours.

Emusan:


What is the purpose of this thread if not to DEBATE?

Since his post is debatable go ahead and do the necessary thing I mean to refute those points.

I can see degression from the main point of this thread with that your question.

@scholar8200-don't allow him to derail this thread with that question.

But that's the point. Its a topic that relies on how one sees it like. Besides, its too long and I'll say this, he'll say that, to what end? But the end point or end theory which he claimed Jesus is the son of god, that is something that can be proved or refuted. You are a devout christian, you have nothing to fear, I'm sure he'll pass with flying colours. You are also free and welcomed to answer the question.

thorpido:
Again these are stories.Why didn't Allah leave Muhammed with a copy of the original gospel that even the Jews will not refute?

What proof do you have that camels did not exist as at the time of Abraham?

Who ever said the picture of Jesus widely circulated is His original picture?We know it was an artist's imagination.

You do not understand the writings of Paul and so you conclude it contradicts that of Jesus.

No wonder Peter a disciple of Jesus said they that are unlearned(spiritually) struggle with the teachings of Apostle Paul.

I answered some of your questions with a post directed to the scholar bloke. But you ask, why doesn't Allah leave Muhammad a copy of the real bible? Lol! Its simple, the Quran explains what in the bible is true and what in the bible is wrong. Muhammad boldly claimed the bible spoke of him, this is something certain jews knew of, some of these jews moved to Arabia because of this prophesy. There is a jew that told the prophet that the jews know it was Ishmael that was almost sacrifiiced but they changed it out of jealousy. Proves and explains the contradictions in the story of isaac and ishmael in the bible. The Quran says Jesus mentioned Muhammad by name, something the current bible may not directly contain , but the dead sea scrolls recovered speak of Muhammad and prophecise his coming as well, why isn't this in the bible? Where did it go? Like I said, Muhammad was sent with the Quran which sheds light on the truth about the bible and torah, not the jewish propaganda that fills it.

Lilimax:
Akuko n'egwu!
Mohammed is existing in your imagination and not in the Bible.

are you telling me that over 2800years allah was so busy with hoes in its paradise that forgot the people of arabians? Because genesis basically talks about the story of israelites then tell me how did allah communicate with the arabians over 2800years because bible recorded more than 100 prophets which almighty God used to talk to his people why not arabians?because I have some question to ask

KellamLeTorneau:


I answered some of your questions with a post directed to the scholar bloke. But you ask, why doesn't Allah leave Muhammad a copy of the real bible? Lol! Its simple, the Quran explains what in the bible is true and what in the bible is wrong. Muhammad boldly claimed the bible spoke of him, this is something certain jews knew of, some of these jews moved to Arabia because of this prophesy. There is a jew that told the prophet that the jews know it was Ishmael that was almost sacrifiiced but they changed it out of jealousy. Proves and explains the contradictions in the story of isaac and ishmael in the bible. The Quran says Jesus mentioned Muhammad by name, something the current bible may not directly contain , but the dead sea scrolls recovered speak of Muhammad and prophecise his coming as well, why isn't this in the bible? Where did it go? Like I said, Muhammad was sent with the Quran which sheds light on the truth about the bible and torah, not the jewish propaganda that fills it.

dead sea scroll did not speak of mohammad most of the scrolls talk about the prophecy of prophet isaiah. Stop lying. See mohamMAD want to be relevant then he cooked up the story up all he said was a lie , jesus said about a comforter that abide with you "FOREVER" can't you see language there mohamMAD was dead, now in hell and his bone is no where to be found. Na wa ooh when I see islamic scholars , they don't reason with their brains but anus like other one that said women wearing trouser were the cause of the earthquake.